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Pete
06-20-2019, 08:26 AM
It's going to be Kings of Leon; I'm 99% sure of that.

hfry
06-20-2019, 09:07 AM
They are also huge OU fans who will have a home game that same day. It all just fits so perfect. Can't wait, they will absolutely crush it.

Irishman23
06-20-2019, 09:37 AM
KOl is made up of 3 brothers, Caleb, Jared and Nathan Followill and their cousin Matthew Followill. Their mom was born in Oklahoma as was Nathan. Others born in Tennessee.

shawnw
06-20-2019, 11:11 AM
It's going to be Kings of Leon; I'm 99% sure of that.

Since we're apparently about to name a Bricktown street after them, this kinda jives now...

Southsider2
06-20-2019, 11:56 AM
I was really excited for the possibility of Garth. King’s of Leon isn’t really my cup of tea but I’ll be there regardless. I’m very excited about this park opening!

WhoRepsTheLurker
06-20-2019, 01:15 PM
I was really excited for the possibility of Garth. King’s of Leon isn’t really my cup of tea but I’ll be there regardless. I’m very excited about this park opening!

Maybe I am wrong, but I was assuming three nights of concerts for the opening weekend?

BDP
06-20-2019, 02:34 PM
This is really the best they can do? I don't know much about Kings of Leon or how famous they really are, but this seems kind of blah. Is there a special connection with this band to Oklahoma?

They currently have over 9 MM monthly listeners on Spotify and that's without putting anything out since 2016. I'm not a super fan or anything, but they're a legit arena size act in most markets.

BDP
06-20-2019, 02:37 PM
Opening weekend and park is closed to taxpayers for a concert wouldn't go over too well so I'm sure it will be completely free.

True, but they may have to make it a ticketed show just for crowd control. I can't even imagine how they could estimate crowd size for an event like this if it's free, and if they get that number wrong, it could lead to some problems.

sooner88
06-20-2019, 02:50 PM
I just figured it would of been a country act giving all the great country artist we have from this state. Anyone is probably going to bring in 15 k if it's free. What about the flaming lips?

Kings of Leon would be a much bigger attraction than the Flaming Lips.

Pete
06-20-2019, 02:52 PM
To me, KOL is the near perfect act.

I bet this will be a huge success and bring tons of international attention to OKC.

Swake
06-20-2019, 03:36 PM
I went to a KOL show 4-5 years ago and there were easy 15k people there at $60+ a ticket. Free I cannot imagine. KOL and Garth are actually bad ideas as the park would be completely overwhelmed for a free show. KOL could easily bring out 40-50k people. Garth Brooks? Come on, he sold out 108,000 tickets in 2014 at the BOK Center in two hours at $70 a ticket. You've have to think he could pull 200k plus in downtown OKC for a free show.

Hanson pulls in over 30k each year for their Hop Jam festival in downtown Tulsa.

jn1780
06-20-2019, 09:28 PM
Interesting timing. Maybe this is their payment for performing a free concert?

https://oklahoman.com/article/5634415/kings-of-leon-lane-coming-to-bricktown

Pete
06-21-2019, 07:43 AM
Interesting timing. Maybe this is their payment for performing a free concert?

https://oklahoman.com/article/5634415/kings-of-leon-lane-coming-to-bricktown

That was discussed up thread; the Oklahoman just pulled it from Twitter and made it sound like Holt posted about it last night, when it was in the morning. Also, they still refuse to properly cite their sources when they copy and paste something. It was Twitter not 'social media'. It's like saying 'newspaper' rather than the Oklahoman.

And yes, I'm very sure the 2 things are related.

jn1780
06-21-2019, 08:00 AM
That was discussed up thread; the Oklahoman just pulled it from Twitter and made it sound like Holt posted about it last night, when it was in the morning. Also, they still refuse to properly cite their sources when they copy and paste something. It was Twitter not 'social media'. It's like saying 'newspaper' rather than the Oklahoman.

And yes, I'm very sure the 2 things are related.

My bad, didn't realize it was already discussed.

Pete
06-21-2019, 08:02 AM
My bad, didn't realize it was already discussed.

No worries, this is more about the Oklahoman and their lack of ethics; what little they had left seems to erode by the day.

catcherinthewry
06-21-2019, 11:29 AM
No worries, this is more about the Oklahoman and their lack of ethics; what little they had left seems to erode by the day.

They seem to be in the "circling the drain" phase.

gopokes88
06-21-2019, 11:53 AM
I went to a KOL show 4-5 years ago and there were easy 15k people there at $60+ a ticket. Free I cannot imagine. KOL and Garth are actually bad ideas as the park would be completely overwhelmed for a free show. KOL could easily bring out 40-50k people. Garth Brooks? Come on, he sold out 108,000 tickets in 2014 at the BOK Center in two hours at $70 a ticket. You've have to think he could pull 200k plus in downtown OKC for a free show.

Hanson pulls in over 30k each year for their Hop Jam festival in downtown Tulsa.

Oh easily. As loud as concerts are I'd sit on the patio at flint and listen

Timshel
06-21-2019, 01:51 PM
We used to do this for OKC Fest. Was a perfect way to hear the shows.

pw405
06-21-2019, 06:31 PM
Went on to Skydance (for first time ever) and it really hit me that this angle is going to make for quite a few memories & photos over the coming years:

https://i.imgur.com/lUEpNbf.jpg
^ Don't use pano feature in the wind, kids.

https://i.imgur.com/w6Lk6lV.jpg

Pete
06-21-2019, 07:45 PM
^

The scale is hard to comprehend unless you are there.

BTW, they still have a TON of work to do on that park, especially at the south end. They are going to have to bust arse to be ready by September.

SEMIweather
06-22-2019, 01:46 AM
I have to think the weather over the past few months hasn't done their timeline any favors.

Pete
06-22-2019, 08:48 AM
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/scissortail062019b.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/scissortail062019a.jpg

Pete
06-23-2019, 12:09 PM
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/scissortail062319b.jpg

Pete
06-24-2019, 01:53 PM
Media event at 10 AM on Wednesday where Mayor Holt "will announce the award winning headliner for a concert on Sept. 27 during the three-day grand opening of MAPS 3’s Scissortail Park".

kevin lee
06-24-2019, 02:31 PM
I'm having a hard time seeing how this will be finished in 3 months. Cross my fingers.

jn1780
06-24-2019, 02:35 PM
Media event at 10 AM on Wednesday where Mayor Holt "will announce the award winning headliner for a concert on Sept. 27 during the three-day grand opening of MAPS 3’s Scissortail Park".

Worse kept secret ever. lol

Pete
06-24-2019, 02:50 PM
I'm having a hard time seeing how this will be finished in 3 months. Cross my fingers.

They pretty much have to have it done by then, as now with the big musical act they are locked into the dates.

Not all things may be complete, however.


They have crews down there working every day, including Sunday. I know the weather has hurt but it seems they were pretty far behind before we hit rainy season. They are certainly focused now.

Ross MacLochness
06-24-2019, 06:25 PM
^^^It might not be done in three months, but it will be open!

jonny d
06-24-2019, 06:54 PM
^^^It might not be done in three months, but it will be open!

Yep. Will be done enough for the opening concert, at least. By the end of September, the demand for the park will be lower, so right now they can focus on the main areas.

shavethewhales
06-25-2019, 01:41 PM
I wouldn't be worried about them finishing at all. Looks like all the really heavy work is done and they are just sodding, landscaping, and putting the finishing touches on. Even with weather delays, three months is a long time to get those details finished. It may not be absolutely 100%, but it will be easily ready to host a concert by September.

I'm more interested to see how parking/people flow is handled for this event since the parking garages wont be finished yet. I assume a lot of people will park in the usual places to the North and walk in, but there are many who can't or won't walk that far.

Pete
06-25-2019, 01:56 PM
^

There is much more in the way of structures/fixtures in the south part of the park.

There is an elaborate fountain, a big playground, a roller rink, shade structures, the lake concessions, etc.

I'd be very surprised if all of that is complete by the end of September.

Pete
06-25-2019, 07:06 PM
Media event at 10 AM on Wednesday where Mayor Holt "will announce the award winning headliner for a concert on Sept. 27 during the three-day grand opening of MAPS 3’s Scissortail Park".

In case you were wondering, Kings of Leon is a 4X Grammy award winner.

Pete
06-26-2019, 10:45 AM
It's officially Kings of Leon.

Remember, you heard it here first!


It's listed as free, so not sure about the crowd control issues.

https://scissortailpark.org/

hfry
06-26-2019, 10:58 AM
Can't wait.
Pete, I remember early in the planning stages for the park they talked about the different concert set ups and how many people each could accommodate, but I've seen the 15,000 used for the great lawn repeatedly but I could've sworn their large set up was more ? With this being a free concert I'm sure it is going to be packed.

jn1780
06-26-2019, 10:59 AM
I'm assuming 2020 4th of July Celebrations will be centered around Scissortail Park next year?

Pete
06-26-2019, 11:53 AM
Can't wait.
Pete, I remember early in the planning stages for the park they talked about the different concert set ups and how many people each could accommodate, but I've seen the 15,000 used for the great lawn repeatedly but I could've sworn their large set up was more ? With this being a free concert I'm sure it is going to be packed.

I've always seen that 15K was the max but there could be smaller configs.

DowntownMan
06-26-2019, 12:06 PM
I wouldn't be worried about them finishing at all. Looks like all the really heavy work is done and they are just sodding, landscaping, and putting the finishing touches on. Even with weather delays, three months is a long time to get those details finished. It may not be absolutely 100%, but it will be easily ready to host a concert by September.

I'm more interested to see how parking/people flow is handled for this event since the parking garages wont be finished yet. I assume a lot of people will park in the usual places to the North and walk in, but there are many who can't or won't walk that far.

Parking for this event will be interesting. It’s 5pm on a Friday. So parking garages will have downtown employees still in them as people start showing up. Could be a packed evening in downtown okc!

Good time to make use of the street car and park somewhere else!

hfry
06-26-2019, 12:45 PM
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https://agenda.okc.gov/sirepub/cache/2/3jzonba3hq1bggeojw4n2z55/332626606262019122857116.PDF
Had to do some searching but found a semi final presentation where they had thought about up to 20,000. They obviously settled on 15,000 since this was a while ago. Can't wait to see how many people show out for this opening weekend.

jonny d
06-26-2019, 01:01 PM
Will there be enough demand for KoL? #sarcasm

Heck of a get for an opening night.

kukblue1
06-26-2019, 04:20 PM
I'm sure it's going to be packed but I'm sure there are others out there like myself where KOL isn't their cup of tea and knowing it's going to be packed will just stay away.

jonny d
06-26-2019, 04:25 PM
I'm sure it's going to be packed but I'm sure there are others out there like myself where KOL isn't their cup of tea and knowing it's going to be packed will just stay away.

Can't please all of the people...go for middle ground to get the most as possible. I am sure Metallica would have been awesome (for me) but would not appeal to as many as KoL. Country also does not appeal to me one single solitary bit. So yeah, KoL is a huge get for that reason alone.

Bullbear
06-26-2019, 04:31 PM
im sure they could set up parking in the south park and people walk the bridge over. that would be one option to hold a good number of people. and there is always parking and taking the street car or uber in.

Pete
06-26-2019, 04:34 PM
Regarding the cars, I'm sure they'll be all types of provisions and at the very least promote the use of the streetcar and parking remotely. There is a stop directly across from the main stage.

Today, I spoke with Graham Colton (of the Jones Assembly) who booked the event and who will be booking future shows at the park. There will be a big FAQ coming out in the near future answering a lot of questions.

But this has all been planned with full coordination with the city, the police department, etc. The mayor is heavily involved as well.

I'm sure they have thought through many issues and soon will be sharing details.


It's also one of those times where I think it's good to step back a bit and just think about how cool all of this is, especially considering it wasn't that long ago when we had a big ugly interstate running through this area and now not only are we on the verge of a massive new park and all the things around it, but we can start to visualize how they will be changing our community for the better and for a long time to come.

Pete
06-27-2019, 12:22 PM
Playground equipment going in.

2nd photo is large fountain / splashpad between the playground and Skydance Bridge.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/scissortail062619a.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/scissortail062619b.jpg

Pete
07-02-2019, 11:39 AM
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/scissortail070119d.jpg

baralheia
07-02-2019, 11:42 AM
I'm hearing rumblings via Twitter (mostly from The Lost Ogle) that the Kings of Leon opening weekend concert is costing the city at least a million to put on... Possibly upwards of $1.5M. And that KoL won't be using the new stage that we built for the park because they feel it's too small for their act. I've got no problem with artists being paid for their work but this seems... excessive? And concerning, because if this is true, the first show held here won't actually use the facilities built... Did we fail to enure the park could live up to it's full potential? I'm taking it all with a grain of salt, but is anyone else hearing anything similar?

shawnw
07-02-2019, 11:49 AM
Their usual fee, per a number of twitter posts is 500K. If you then factor "building" a venue, closing streets, security, etc, maybe it gets to the 1M?

I definitely get the complaints, but I suspect this money is coming out of the 130M park budget (or the donations). I doubt we're paying _additional_ monies. If we weren't getting this show, we'd get 1M more in park improvements. Not saying it's worth the trade off, just saying taxpayers wouldn't get 1M back in their pocket if this act went away.

Pete
07-02-2019, 11:54 AM
You can see by that last drone shot I posted they have absolutely tons of work remaining, particularly in the southern half of the park. I walked through there a few days ago and the scale of what is left to be done is mind-boggling.

I'd love to know what will still be unfinished by the late September grand opening weekend. We are less than 3 months out.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/scissortail070119d.jpg

David
07-02-2019, 12:05 PM
A round up of TLO's view on the concert, for the curious: OKC Twitterati attacks TLO for pointing out cost of Kings of Leon concert… (https://www.thelostogle.com/2019/07/01/okc-twitterati-attacks-tlo-for-pointing-out-cost-of-kings-of-leon-concert/)

hfry
07-02-2019, 12:14 PM
I'm hearing rumblings via Twitter (mostly from The Lost Ogle) that the Kings of Leon opening weekend concert is costing the city at least a million to put on... Possibly upwards of $1.5M. And that KoL won't be using the new stage that we built for the park because they feel it's too small for their act. I've got no problem with artists being paid for their work but this seems... excessive? And concerning, because if this is true, the first show held here won't actually use the facilities built... Did we fail to enure the park could live up to it's full potential? I'm taking it all with a grain of salt, but is anyone else hearing anything similar?
In that image I posted on the last page, I think, it shows that for large concerts that a bigger stage would be needed. So they planned on this type of set up from the beginning for large set ups.

jn1780
07-02-2019, 12:25 PM
What's the capacity of the park when you have to use half of the great lawn for a stage? It seems like KOL may be the biggest act the park will ever see. The economics won't be good for similar acts unless city is paying for it. Which is ok, since this isn't really meant to be a nice upscale amphitheater.

shawnw
07-02-2019, 12:35 PM
I wonder if you'd have to build something on Robinson...

Laramie
07-02-2019, 12:53 PM
What's the capacity of the park when you have to use half of the great lawn for a stage? It seems like KOL may be the biggest act the park will ever see. The economics won't be good for similar acts unless city is paying for it. Which is ok, since this isn't really meant to be a nice upscale amphitheater.

As Pete mentioned, this is got to be mind-boggling. They have so much to do to complete the park. Wish they could eventually add amphitheater seats, blocks or benches to the tune of 10,000 plus. When you have people scattered throughout a lawn it will be a difficult sit without invading personal space.

IMO: The Woodstock type lawn grazing concerts isn't what we should resurrect in OKC.

Bullbear
07-02-2019, 12:57 PM
As Pete mentioned, this is got to be mind-boggling. They have so much to do to complete the park. Wish they could eventually add amphitheater seats, blocks or benches to the tune of 10,000 plus. When you have people scattered throughout a lawn it will be a difficult sit without invading personal space.

IMO: The Woodstock type lawn grazing concerts isn't what we should resurrect in OKC.

I can't imagine seating will be added, Its a great lawn similar to a festival type set up. most people wont be seated by standing and maybe sitting on the hill. that's pretty normal with this type of setup.

Laramie
07-02-2019, 01:20 PM
I can't imagine seating will be added, Its a great lawn similar to a festival type set up. most people wont be seated by standing and maybe sitting on the hill. that's pretty normal with this type of setup.

Normal setup is true, if people would 'go somewhere and sit down.' There's so much movement today of people prancing in & out to the restrooms, concessions and so forth; just don't know, it probably wouldn't be any different with seats...

SagerMichael
07-02-2019, 01:43 PM
I wish Oklahoma City could do some yearly music festival with that space. Something like Pitchfork Music Festival in Chicago would be amazing

shawnw
07-02-2019, 01:46 PM
Personally, I'd rather see the river amphitheater get built by Wheeler and have a festival there. Between the skyline backdrop, maybe some boats in the background as well, and the ferris wheel it would be a much more iconic experience.

jn1780
07-02-2019, 01:50 PM
Normal setup is true, if people would 'go somewhere and sit down.' There's so much movement today of people prancing in & out to the restrooms, concessions and so forth; just don't know, it probably wouldn't be any different with seats...

Great lawn is supposed to be multipurpose. There will be events where tents are setup and static seats would just get in the way.

Pete
07-06-2019, 06:53 AM
You can see the south 1/2 of the park is still nowhere close to complete.

There are also tons of details in the northern section that remain to be finished as well.

We are only 2.5 months away from the grand opening celebration and they have a long way to go.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/scissortail070519a.jpg

hfry
07-06-2019, 07:37 AM
They posted on Instagram a few days ago they still have 350 trees left to plant. Out of 953, that's a huge chunk left. I remember going through the minutes and thinking it was weird that Cooley construction got the bid for supplying trees( basically just buying and transporting if I remember right).
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Also here's the tree list if anyone is interested. I think it was the most updated but I could be slightly dated.
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