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Ginkasa
08-31-2021, 08:21 AM
Yeah, GameStop bought ThinkGeek in 2015.

barrettd
08-31-2021, 12:29 PM
That’s kind of a bummer. I went to their website and I was redirected to GameStop. Are they part of GameStop? I walked through there last week but was in a rush and didn’t check it out in depth. I had planned to go back.

You aren't missing much. ThinkGeek as a store wasn't nearly as interesting as their website. If I remember correctly, the store was mostly full of Funko Pop toys.

jeffkchuckk
09-09-2021, 02:04 PM
Sadly, Pottery Barn won't be renewing their lease.

progressiveboy
09-09-2021, 09:42 PM
I am beginning to wonder if OKC is able to support more upscale retail. With the closing of Banana Republic, Swarvovski, Williams Sonoma and now PB does not bode well for OKC. All of these stores are still open in Tulsa. Also Jos A Wilson closed in PS but is still open in Tulsa. Also Tulsa has Restoration Hardware and Saks which OKC does not have as well. You would think with the big population growth in OKC this would not be the case? I do not know? I predict OKC will never get a Nordstrom either. Just not enough disposable income in OKC.

Plutonic Panda
09-09-2021, 09:56 PM
Are you being serious you think the closing of a pottery barn represents the decline of high wealth in Oklahoma City that is fu€king hilarious

Plutonic Panda
09-09-2021, 09:58 PM
PS, Dillards in OKC PS is one of the nicest department stores I’ve ever been in rivaling those in Fashion Island and that’s my personal opinion.

progressiveboy
09-09-2021, 10:03 PM
Are you being serious you think the closing of a pottery barn represents the decline of high wealth in Oklahoma City that is fu€king hilarious Yes I do! OKC does not have overall high disposable incomes. They cannot even afford to fix their streets. So sad for my hometown.

chssooner
09-10-2021, 12:40 AM
Yes I do! OKC does not have overall high disposable incomes. They cannot even afford to fix their streets. So sad for my hometown.

Horse crap.

Plutonic Panda
09-10-2021, 04:52 AM
Yes I do! OKC does not have overall high disposable incomes. They cannot even afford to fix their streets. So sad for my hometown.
I disagree. Tulsa is one of the cities holding the state back not pushing it forward like OKC is. Wealth is of no factor there. OKC has tons of disposable income and PB doesn’t have much to offer I just walked through it and it’s a glorified Pier 1 store nothing more.

Pete
09-10-2021, 06:59 AM
Pottery Barn has been looking at other sites in OKC.

They have been closing some of their stores and finding better locations in the same city.

Mballard85
09-10-2021, 07:48 AM
Pottery Barn has been looking at other sites in OKC.

They have been closing some of their stores and finding better locations in the same city.

Cant be true Pete, this is a sign of the complete collapse of OKC into a poverty stricken wasteland.

Don't tell him why Williams Sonoma left PSM, I'll just say it wasn't customer related. Nevermind Jos A Bank has a store in Edmond, no need for two suit stores of the same quality in the same mall.

chssooner
09-10-2021, 08:20 AM
I am beginning to wonder if OKC is able to support more upscale retail. With the closing of Banana Republic, Swarvovski, Williams Sonoma and now PB does not bode well for OKC. All of these stores are still open in Tulsa. Also Jos A Wilson closed in PS but is still open in Tulsa. Also Tulsa has Restoration Hardware and Saks which OKC does not have as well. You would think with the big population growth in OKC this would not be the case? I do not know? I predict OKC will never get a Nordstrom either. Just not enough disposable income in OKC.

The Saks there is of lower (maybe equal??) quality to the Dillards in PS. Like, you don't realize it, but name alone doesn't matter. Mr. Ooley's in OKC has been selling Armani suits for decades (Tulsa has no Armani or Brioni dealers). Classen Curve has a bunch of OKC-only Oklahoma stores (Bonobos, Evereve, Lovesac, Mizzen & Main, home of the $135 dress shirt that is immensely popular here in OKC, Soft Surroundings, Sur La Table, Tecovas, etc). But keep spewing this negative narrative you have.

The fact you think a Pottery Barn or Banana Republic is upscale says a lot.

Plutonic Panda
09-10-2021, 09:35 AM
I believe I’ve said it here before and I’ll say it again the Dillards at Penn Square, Mall is comparable to the nicest Neiman Marcus I’ve been to in Southern California. I really am blown away by how nice that Dillards store is the only thing that doesn’t compare to in regards to other upscale department stores and cosmopolitan cities like Los Angeles is the suit section. The only other nicer stores I’ve been to either Bloomingdale’s or Bergdorf goodman. There was another really high-end department store in Beverly Hills but I forgot the name of it and it closed down not sure why.

And frankly assuming tulsa Has high end retail is comedy but not funnier than thinking pottery barn is a high end store. It’s overpriced crap.

And let me tell you I just went up to Tulsa drove around to check out the city I have one beautiful spot around southern hills and might be the most beautiful part of the state but the city is a whole sucks and I heard about Saks being a nice store there and it was in horrible condition. Thinking that Tulsa is an upscale city is hilarious. I don’t mean to make this an OKC vs Tulsa thing again but I’m really amused at the poster who posted about PB. It’s one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen on this forum.

poe
09-10-2021, 12:02 PM
I could see Pottery Barn go to a freestanding store somewhere in the city, maybe like the one in Wichita. And I think some of the other retailers that have left OKC may eventually come back, but not in a mall. I like Banana Republic, but don’t miss it. You can find their clothes at Burlington and other similar retailers now, not to mention the factory store. I think the bigger concern is the void left in Penn Square by all the closings. I would hope mall management would be proactive, but it doesn’t seem to be the case.

Laramie
09-10-2021, 12:54 PM
I could see Pottery Barn go to a freestanding store somewhere in the city, maybe like the one in Wichita. And I think some of the other retailers that have left OKC may eventually come back, but not in a mall. I like Banana Republic, but don’t miss it. You can find their clothes at Burlington and other similar retailers now, not to mention the factory store. I think the bigger concern is the void left in Penn Square by all the closings. I would hope mall management would be proactive, but it doesn’t seem to be the case.

The old closed Office DePot near Walmart at S. W. 3rd & Reno will be opening as a Burlington.

WheelerD Guy
09-10-2021, 03:13 PM
I could see Pottery Barn go to a freestanding store somewhere in the city, maybe like the one in Wichita. And I think some of the other retailers that have left OKC may eventually come back, but not in a mall. I like Banana Republic, but don’t miss it. You can find their clothes at Burlington and other similar retailers now, not to mention the factory store. I think the bigger concern is the void left in Penn Square by all the closings. I would hope mall management would be proactive, but it doesn’t seem to be the case.

+1. That’s definitely the way things are headed. The big lifestyle centers (Chisholm Creek, The Oak, Route 66 Landing) are the future in that regard.

Pete
09-10-2021, 03:20 PM
The one Pottery Barn in Tulsa is in Utica Square, not a mall.

I could see them moving to Chisholm Creek or even The Oak.

chssooner
09-10-2021, 03:25 PM
The one Pottery Barn in Tulsa is in Utica Square, not a mall.

I could see them moving to Chisholm Creek or even The Oak.

Do we know how active Simon is in filling PSM up? Or are they wanting to take a very slow, wait and see approach? Just wanting to see if you had heard anything on that front.

traxx
09-13-2021, 11:40 AM
I am beginning to wonder if OKC is able to support more upscale retail. With the closing of Banana Republic, Swarvovski, Williams Sonoma and now PB does not bode well for OKC. All of these stores are still open in Tulsa. Also Jos A Wilson closed in PS but is still open in Tulsa. Also Tulsa has Restoration Hardware and Saks which OKC does not have as well. You would think with the big population growth in OKC this would not be the case? I do not know? I predict OKC will never get a Nordstrom either. Just not enough disposable income in OKC.
I'm assuming you mean Jos A Bank not Wilson. That was a terribly run company before covid. The pandemic just exacerbated it. There's still a Bank store in Edmond. They're owned by the same company that owns Men's Wearhouse. They couldn't afford to keep two stores that are a couple of hundred yards apart open so they chose to close one and they chose Bank.

As far as the streets, I don't know what to tell ya. But it has nothing to do with Pottery Barn closing its PSM store. That's a tax issue and a government issue. We constantly have road construction going on everywhere in this state but the roads never get any better. It's an anomaly.

Bunty
09-13-2021, 11:58 AM
I am beginning to wonder if OKC is able to support more upscale retail. With the closing of Banana Republic, Swarvovski, Williams Sonoma and now PB does not bode well for OKC. All of these stores are still open in Tulsa. Also Jos A Wilson closed in PS but is still open in Tulsa. Also Tulsa has Restoration Hardware and Saks which OKC does not have as well. You would think with the big population growth in OKC this would not be the case? I do not know? I predict OKC will never get a Nordstrom either. Just not enough disposable income in OKC.

Some of those stores may be having such severe financial trouble company wide, they may not be around anywhere in a few years. Covid and online stores, like Amazon, surely aren't finished trying to kill off brick and mortar stores.

Rover
09-13-2021, 12:56 PM
Some of those stores may be having such severe financial trouble company wide, they may not be around anywhere in a few years. Covid and online stores, like Amazon, surely aren't finished trying to kill off brick and mortar stores.

They aren't necessarily trying to kill off brick and mortar... the customers are doing that. If everyone prefers brick and mortar then they should buy there. People complain but still buy from Amazon and all the other onlines. And that started way before Covid. Brick and mortar needs to show value in customer service, niched products, speed of services, etc. to compete, not just complain that people aren't coming to them. How many local b&ms started doing/pushing home deliveries of products from their stores like restaurants had to do. They need to start thinking of how they might have some advantages and not try to compete where they don't (low pricing). If they offer something of value, people will support it. If they just want to sell the same stuff but at higher prices and less convenience... well, good luck with that. Where is the new wave of creativity in retail b&m marketing?

soonerguru
09-14-2021, 03:11 PM
I am beginning to wonder if OKC is able to support more upscale retail. With the closing of Banana Republic, Swarvovski, Williams Sonoma and now PB does not bode well for OKC. All of these stores are still open in Tulsa. Also Jos A Wilson closed in PS but is still open in Tulsa. Also Tulsa has Restoration Hardware and Saks which OKC does not have as well. You would think with the big population growth in OKC this would not be the case? I do not know? I predict OKC will never get a Nordstrom either. Just not enough disposable income in OKC.

This is ridiculous. The last census indicated that OKC's median income is 55k. Tulsa's 47k. The death of malls has been a thing since before Covid. Also, the death of retail is a thing. OKC is not immune to this. Tulsa has people who literally subsidize that Sak's to keep it open.

The primary difference here is that Tulsa's wealthier enclaves are concentrated together, unlike OKC's. However, OKC has about 300,000 more people in its metro area. Another difference is that Tulsa's nicer shopping outlets are in Utica Square, the type of place that is faring better during Covid.

I'm not a huge fan of Classen Curve but it has unmistakably upscale retailers. By contrast, how is Woodland Hills Mall doing in Tulsa? Is it a mecca for high-end stores?

TBH I haven't stepped one foot inside Penn Square since the pandemic began, although I have been to Classen Curve and other retail locations several times. The Pottery Barn there was nice but had a relatively small footprint and it just makes more sense to order stuff like that online now, where there are more than two or three options for coffee tables and stoneware. The Williams Sonoma store at Penn Square was an annual holiday visit for me at most. Now, Sur La Table, at Classen Curve, is a nicer and more upscale store and doing just fine.

It's obvious you haven't lived here in a long time.

Bowser214
09-14-2021, 04:43 PM
Just talked to my friend that’s a Designer at Pottery Barn Knox St Dallas he said PB PSM is still open.

Martin
09-14-2021, 05:18 PM
Just talked to my friend that’s a Designer at Pottery Barn Knox St Dallas he said PB PSM is still open.

the claim wasn't that they're closed but that they've opted to not renew their lease.

Pete
09-14-2021, 05:23 PM
Yeah, I suspect they will be at the mall for a while because they probably don't want to completely leave the OKC market and it will take time for them to find a place and then build a new store.

BG918
09-14-2021, 08:35 PM
Classes Curve is filling the void OKC has long had not having a centrally-located outdoor lifestyle center like Utica Square. Utica Square benefits from its age developing 70 years ago in the heart of midtown Tulsa and surrounded by high income neighborhoods. Its age also means it has mature trees and more development in general around it which is something Classen Curve lacks but will have in time.

SomeGuy
10-11-2021, 03:10 PM
Apparently Fossil has closed? Signs were down the other week and windows were covered.

jbkrems
10-11-2021, 10:17 PM
Apparently Fossil has closed? Signs were down the other week and windows were covered.

That is a shame --- now I won't have anywhere to repair my Fossil watch !!!

codiejoe
10-12-2021, 04:33 PM
Yes, Fossil has closed at Penn Square Mall. Most of team has been relocated to OKC Outlets location.

lady_o
10-13-2021, 05:48 PM
Oh no, that's terrible news

Pete
01-14-2022, 02:37 PM
Interesting new place coming to the food court.

Oh!K-Dog specializes in Korean fried rice hotdogs and egg toast, popular Korean street food items.

https://www.ohkdog.com/

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FighttheGoodFight
01-14-2022, 02:38 PM
Wow I want to try that.

Pete
01-14-2022, 02:44 PM
People in other towns rave about them.

At least it will be something completely new and different.

David
01-14-2022, 03:20 PM
Any known plans for that Charley's Philly Cheesesteak place to close? The Walmart right next door has a sign up on the old McDonald's spot about a Charley's coming soon. (IMO a terrible change since it removes the ability to get some quick McDonald's breakfast along with an early morning shopping trip, but that's a completely separate issue.)

G.Walker
01-14-2022, 03:41 PM
Any known plans for that Charley's Philly Cheesesteak place to close? The Walmart right next door has a sign up on the old McDonald's spot about a Charley's coming soon. (IMO a terrible change since it removes the ability to get some quick McDonald's breakfast along with an early morning shopping trip, but that's a completely separate issue.)

Nice, about time they start expanding. I like Charley's, but hate that I can only get it if I go to the mall. Hopefully they start building free standing locations around the metro.

Thomas Vu
01-14-2022, 09:17 PM
Interesting new place coming to the food court.

Oh!K-Dog specializes in Korean fried rice hotdogs and egg toast, popular Korean street food items.

https://www.ohkdog.com/

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Looks like a good get, especially in a mall.

bombermwc
01-17-2022, 11:09 AM
Looks like a tastey heart attack on a stick :P

jn1780
01-17-2022, 11:55 AM
Any known plans for that Charley's Philly Cheesesteak place to close? The Walmart right next door has a sign up on the old McDonald's spot about a Charley's coming soon. (IMO a terrible change since it removes the ability to get some quick McDonald's breakfast along with an early morning shopping trip, but that's a completely separate issue.)

Good to see something going in those old McDonalds spots.

Ward
01-17-2022, 02:40 PM
I was just thinking when I had a summer job at Montgomery Wards at Penn Square Mall in 1977.

It certainly has changed over the years.

Martin
01-17-2022, 02:54 PM
I was just thinking when I had a summer job at Montgomery Wards at Penn Square Mall in 1977.

It certainly has changed over the years.

wasn't the mall still open-air in '77? would love to know what it looked like back then.

Boop
01-17-2022, 05:25 PM
wasn't the mall still open-air in '77? would love to know what it looked like back then.

Yes, it still was open-air until it closed in 1981, here is the website with old pictures, it is pretty cool

https://okcmod.com/2015/01/penn-square-oklahomas-first-modern-shopping-mall/

Bowser214
01-17-2022, 05:33 PM
I remember on an occasion or two mom would shop at Streets women's clothing store.

Martin
01-17-2022, 05:44 PM
Yes, it still was open-air until it closed in 1982, here is the website with old pictures, it is pretty cool

https://okcmod.com/2015/01/penn-square-oklahomas-first-modern-shopping-mall/

pretty cool, thanks! there are a few in there that i hadn't seen before.

Boop
01-17-2022, 07:00 PM
pretty cool, thanks! there are a few in there that i hadn't seen before.

I wish they kept the umbrellas, I thought they were cool, I am glad you enjoyed them!

shawnw
01-18-2022, 12:23 AM
Um, does no one else see the resemblance with the shade things on the 4th/Cornett St Experience?

Urbanized
01-18-2022, 05:53 AM
Um, does no one else see the resemblance with the shade things on the 4th/Cornett St Experience?

Man, I do. Almost posted images of them last night but decided to fall asleep in front of the TV instead. The resemblance is uncanny.

I didn’t live in OKC before PSM was remodeled and enclosed, so I’m not sure I’d ever seen those. But I recall my dad and especially my then step-mom (both R.I.P) talking about those shade structures specifically. I recall her especially mentioning how nice the environment was at PSM back then. She liked the enclosed mall too, but always seemed a bit wistful for the old one.

barrettd
01-18-2022, 07:42 AM
I don't have many memories of being at the mall when it was open air, but I definitely remember the cool sign on the corner, reminds me of the old French Market Mall sign, too.

Jeepnokc
01-18-2022, 08:25 AM
I don't have many memories of being at the mall when it was open air, but I definitely remember the cool sign on the corner, reminds me of the old French Market Mall sign, too.

It is a great sign. Wonder what happened to it? Could it be in someone's back 40 or old barn rusting away?

Boop
01-20-2022, 10:34 AM
It is a great sign. Wonder what happened to it? Could it be in someone's back 40 or old barn rusting away?

I can not remember where I read it but I remembered that they decided to destroy the sign since they do not have any use for it anymore, it is really a shame

Urbanized
01-20-2022, 12:07 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^
The clock was purchased by the late Jim Brewer and was placed on top of the water tower at 2 E. California (Bricktown Canal). It was removed several years ago. Not sure of the disposition.

Colbafone
04-05-2022, 01:40 PM
There's a movie being filmed at the mall today
Tons of production trucks and RVs parked on the west side, next to the old west side BC Clark Entrance. No idea who or what. All the trucks say King Street Productions on them. Based out of New Orleans.

MagzOK
04-05-2022, 01:48 PM
Sylvester Stallone is in town actually. Could be his party.

https://kfor.com/news/local/hollywood-goes-to-the-village-for-sylvester-stallone-shoot/

Pete
04-05-2022, 01:57 PM
^

I believe it is filming for Stallone's Tulsa King TV series.

Pete
04-07-2022, 07:41 AM
Stallone posted a video on his Insta account of him inside Lolli and Pops in Penn Square, so they were definitely in there filming for Tulsa King.

CCOKC
04-07-2022, 08:50 AM
Not related to Penn Square Mall, but yesterday they were filming at a seedy motel at South 44th and Shields. It is amazing how many people it takes to make a TV show

jn1780
04-07-2022, 01:20 PM
I will keep an eye out for an episode titled" The Tulsa King travels to OKC for candy".

HOT ROD
04-08-2022, 07:29 PM
sorry, the title just doesn't do it for me.

Pete
05-24-2022, 03:33 PM
Interesting new place coming to the food court.

Oh!K-Dog specializes in Korean fried rice hotdogs and egg toast, popular Korean street food items.

https://www.ohkdog.com/

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It's hard to tell if work has started on their spot in the food court because the front is boarded up, but the Penn Square Mall website lists them as 'coming soon'.

shartel_ave
05-24-2022, 03:41 PM
there is a place like that already it's called 365 Boba & Eatery @ THE HEAL 365 but that restaurant going into penn is really good.

Too bad it is in the mall so I'll never go, haven't been in the mall since 2012

baralheia
07-08-2022, 03:14 PM
It's hard to tell if work has started on their spot in the food court because the front is boarded up, but the Penn Square Mall website lists them as 'coming soon'.

I know it's only been a little more than 6 weeks, but... any update on this? I see they're still listed as "coming soon" on Penn Square Mall's site, but last time I was in PSM a couple of weeks ago, the storefront in the food court was still boarded up like you observed. Also noticed that OKC is not listed as coming soon on Oh K-Dog's website.