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OKCTalker 12-28-2010, 11:18 AM I've been very disappointed in my last two visits to Bellini's at Waterford. Both times the food was overpriced and mediocre, and the service was maybe average for a white tablecloth restaurant. With a Groupon coupon in hand, my wife and I decided to try them again (maybe they were just going through a rough patch and quality had returned). Unfortunately, we were grossly disappointed.
We arrived a little past six and there was no-one at the hostess station to greet or seat us. Only one other table was occupied and no-one was at the bar. All silverware had waterspots, and both of our napkins were frayed - I think that's a very bad sign when a restaurant isn't even replacing worn table linens. They took our drink order right away and my cocktail was terrific (strong with lots of ice), but my wife's wine was under-poured (a large cabernet glass with what appeared to be about 3-4 ounces, which when asked, the bartender said it was a 5-ounce pour, but then brought another ounce in a pony glass). The call drink and mid-range cabernet were each $9.00 - again, high.
We ordered and shared a prosciutto-wrapped shrimp appetizer which was really terrible, and was priced at $14.00. We ate three, leaving the fourth. We also shared a norwegian salmon which was very good, but it ran $25.00 plus a $3.00 split plate charge.
So - all in it was $75.00 for an entree, appetizer and three drinks. There are too many other fine restaurants in OKC that we frequent, with better offerings at lower prices, that don't appear frayed at the edges (literally), and don't short-change you here and pad your bill there.
Has anybody else noticed their dramatic decline?
pickles 12-28-2010, 01:28 PM Has anybody else noticed their dramatic decline?
I've never had a good meal there, but then again I wouldn't call myself a longtime patron - I've only been a handful of times over the past few years. It has struck me as a place that cares little about the comfort of the diner, the ingredients and the appearance and quality of the finished product on the plate. It has the feel of eating in the hospitality corridor, or at one of the lesser locations in Bricktown. Everyone there seems to be just working to get through the day, rather than toward any real goal. They have also been uncomfortably slow on each visit, which inevitably leads me to wonder about the integrity of their ingredients and the length to which they might try to stretch them. It's not a place I visit unless I'm required.
jbkrems 12-28-2010, 01:51 PM I've been there once and I did not think the place was very clean. All the silverware and glassware was spotted and had not been rinsed thoroughly; it was a real disgusting sight to the dining eye.
calitook 12-28-2010, 02:53 PM We went for our anniversary this past August and won't be returning. My food was ice cold and greasy and my husband's was "meh" at best. There are too many other options out there to even give them another shot.
TheTravellers 12-29-2010, 03:05 PM We've had similar experiences at other restaurants here (some "fancy" ones, some just regular ones) and this is the kind of thing I don't like to see here in OKC - so many places (not limited to just restaurants) are "just OK", or half-a**ed, or only about 2/3 of the way to a good meal, etc. Lots of places here just do the minimum to get by, and lots of patrons accept that, which is sad. Bellini's used to be very good (haven't been back since we've been back, though, and probably won't now), and now *they're* "just OK", yet they'll probably survive on their rep for a long time. If OKC truly wants to be a big-league city, then the restaurants, shops, etc. need to step it up and do better than "just OK". It's a shame Oklahoma had the slogan of "Oklahoma is OK" since so many see that as the finish line, and don't go beyond that.
So having said that, how do we get restaurants to do better? Do we care, do we stop going there, do we tell the manager (after the meal, of course, to avoid repercussions in the meal :-) ), do we post negative reviews, ....?
dismayed 12-29-2010, 10:26 PM A long time ago they were very good, but for years now they have been not just 'adequate' but exceedingly terrible. I have had the appetizer you had... it once was my favorite but I don't know if they changed chefs or what but it has never been good in recent years. The last time I tried the prosciutto-wrapped shrimp ball thing its taste was so putrid I actually thought they had given me a spoiled item and sent it back. I had similar observations about their cleanliness and service as well. I stopped going there several years ago as a result.
ljbab728 12-29-2010, 11:42 PM We've had similar experiences at other restaurants here (some "fancy" ones, some just regular ones) and this is the kind of thing I don't like to see here in OKC - so many places (not limited to just restaurants) are "just OK", or half-a**ed, or only about 2/3 of the way to a good meal, etc. Lots of places here just do the minimum to get by, and lots of patrons accept that, which is sad. Bellini's used to be very good (haven't been back since we've been back, though, and probably won't now), and now *they're* "just OK", yet they'll probably survive on their rep for a long time. If OKC truly wants to be a big-league city, then the restaurants, shops, etc. need to step it up and do better than "just OK". It's a shame Oklahoma had the slogan of "Oklahoma is OK" since so many see that as the finish line, and don't go beyond that.
So having said that, how do we get restaurants to do better? Do we care, do we stop going there, do we tell the manager (after the meal, of course, to avoid repercussions in the meal :-) ), do we post negative reviews, ....?
OKC has no corner on this problem, big-league city or not. This happens in restaurants all over the country. It takes a very dedicated management and staff to maintain quality after being open for a number of years. Some succeed and some don't. Im a proponent of conveying information about problems directly to the restaurant management, either in person or by email. Posting negative reviews may help in some instances but direct contact is best in my opinion.
OKCTalker 12-30-2010, 11:52 AM There are lots of outlets to share opinions: OKC Talk, Urbanspoon, epinions, etc. Everyone benefits when a struggling business is either quickly turned around or put out of its misery. It's a shame to see Bellini's running a lousy business while occupying a great location with a pond view and al fresco dining. They obviously don't want to improve, so I can't wait for them to be replaced!
TheTravellers 12-30-2010, 12:29 PM OKC has no corner on this problem, big-league city or not. This happens in restaurants all over the country. It takes a very dedicated management and staff to maintain quality after being open for a number of years. Some succeed and some don't. Im a proponent of conveying information about problems directly to the restaurant management, either in person or by email. Posting negative reviews may help in some instances but direct contact is best in my opinion.
True, there are adequate and crappy restaurants in any city, but OKC does seem to have a higher percentage of adequate-ness than the other places I've lived. Just for example - had the seared duck breast at La Baguette Colcord and it was "Eh, whatever" because it wasn't done quite enough, the skin wasn't crispy enough, the breast wasn't sliced thinly enough. At Bistro Banlieue (sadly, R.I.P.) in the Chicago suburbs, I *never* had just an adequate meal, no matter what I ordered. The duck breast there was outstanding every time I ate it. Duck breast was also fantastic when I ordered it in Paris. Adobe Grill has just OK tex-mex, Billy Sims BBQ is average (as are the other BBQ places we've tried since we've been back), Habanero's is completely average, Papa Dio's is OK, but no more than that, ad infinitum. The restaurants we ate at in Chicago-land did a great job pretty much every single time we ate there, we were very rarely (if ever) disappointed. That's where I'm coming from - we've eaten at places where we just don't get a bad meal, they're consistently good, and I believe that La Baguette can do better, so why don't they? It's just frustrating when you've been to a restaurant that has done good things in the past, but now they stop caring/trying/whatever, so they're just doing what they can because people will still come in and pay to eat there.
It disappoints me when I go to a place that used to be good and now they suck because I've lost what used to be a pleasure in my life and have to go hunting to find a new Italian/Greek/Tex-Mex/whatever place to eat and probably eat a few bad meals along that journey. Yeah, trying new things/shops/restaurants can be fun, but sometimes it can be a nightmare of adequate (if not outright bad) food before (if) you find a place that satisfies you.
It's also possible we're just food snobs. :-)
And referring to OKCTalker's post, it would be nice if bad restaurants and shops were replaced, but sometimes they linger on for years because the patrons just keep going back even if it's crappy. So bad places sometimes don't seem to go away because they're bad, which is sad. Don't think there's a fix for that.
dismayed 12-30-2010, 02:13 PM The thing about a city like Chicago as compared to a city like OKC is that Chicago is so much bigger, and has so much more of a name for itself, that the talent pool in all industries including food prep is just so much better. I don't know what the landscape is like here in OKC, but I would think that probably not many 'executive' chefs here have gone to and graduated from the Culinary Institute of America. In a city like Chicago I bet you could find tons of them. In time OKC will have the talent pool to draw from too, I just wish that time would hurry up and arrive sooner rather than later.
ljbab728 12-30-2010, 11:58 PM The thing about a city like Chicago as compared to a city like OKC is that Chicago is so much bigger, and has so much more of a name for itself, that the talent pool in all industries including food prep is just so much better. I don't know what the landscape is like here in OKC, but I would think that probably not many 'executive' chefs here have gone to and graduated from the Culinary Institute of America. In a city like Chicago I bet you could find tons of them. In time OKC will have the talent pool to draw from too, I just wish that time would hurry up and arrive sooner rather than later.
I agree, dismayed. You simply can't compare the overall quality of restaurants in OKC to places like Chicago, LA, San Francisco, NY, or Paris (LOL). And taste is very subjective. I've never had any good duck and I have tried it in Paris. I suspect there are many more bad restaurants in all of those cities than there are in OKC but, since you have so many more to choose from, if you have a clue what you're doing you'll find a good one. I too have eaten at top restaurants in NY, San Francisco, LA, Paris, London, Rome, Venice, etc. and while it would be nice if we had the same here in OKC you won't hear me bitching about it. We have come a long way in variety and quality. It will always be up and down but I appreciate the options we have now.
TheTravellers 12-31-2010, 11:52 AM I agree, dismayed. You simply can't compare the overall quality of restaurants in OKC to places like Chicago, LA, San Francisco, NY, or Paris (LOL). And taste is very subjective. I've never had any good duck and I have tried it in Paris. I suspect there are many more bad restaurants in all of those cities than there are in OKC but, since you have so many more to choose from, if you have a clue what you're doing you'll find a good one. I too have eaten at top restaurants in NY, San Francisco, LA, Paris, London, Rome, Venice, etc. and while it would be nice if we had the same here in OKC you won't hear me bitching about it. We have come a long way in variety and quality. It will always be up and down but I appreciate the options we have now.
OK, let me clarify - we weren't eating at high-end Chicago restaurants like Charlie Trotter's and Frontera Grill all the time (never got to Charlie's, sadly, but ate at Frontera as often as we could). I was referring to just seemingly completely run-of-the-mill places in the western burbs of Chicago like Nancy's Pasta, Bistro Banlieue, Chinn's, strip mall breakfast places, etc. *Those* types of places can be compared to OKC restaurants, IMO, since they're at about the same level, cuisine-wise. I was trying to compare apples to apples, but just wasn't clear enough...
ljbab728 12-31-2010, 11:12 PM OK, let me clarify - we weren't eating at high-end Chicago restaurants like Charlie Trotter's and Frontera Grill all the time (never got to Charlie's, sadly, but ate at Frontera as often as we could). I was referring to just seemingly completely run-of-the-mill places in the western burbs of Chicago like Nancy's Pasta, Bistro Banlieue, Chinn's, strip mall breakfast places, etc. *Those* types of places can be compared to OKC restaurants, IMO, since they're at about the same level, cuisine-wise. I was trying to compare apples to apples, but just wasn't clear enough...
Even when comparing apples to apples you have to keep in mind the sheer number of places to choose from in the large cities. There are some very good restaurants in that category in OKC but certainly not as many. It's still easier to find great places when you have so many more to choose from. There is no reason to think that restaurants and patrons in OKC are more likely to settle for lower quality than in other cities.
bluedogok 01-01-2011, 06:19 PM Back when I went to Bellini's regularly(10 or so years ago) it was very good and consistent but I have seen many exceptional places wane over time due to many factors. Sometimes it may just be burnout on the part of the ownership, staff and/or customers, other times it may be newer competition that pulls customers away. Many times it is hard to "get it back" after a down period, I hope they do.
dismayed 01-05-2011, 09:23 PM ljbab728, your comment on duck rattled something loose in my head. I think I have had some surprisingly good duck somewhere in the Little Saigon district. I will rack my brain some more and see if I can remember where I had it.
ljbab728 01-05-2011, 11:00 PM ljbab728, your comment on duck rattled something loose in my head. I think I have had some surprisingly good duck somewhere in the Little Saigon district. I will rack my brain some more and see if I can remember where I had it.
I apologize, dismayed. I didn't mean to shake your head that hard.
On another note, I wonder if Bellini's would be interested in the first part of the following article in the Oklahoman.
http://www.newsok.com/food-briefs/article/3529307?custom_click=headlines_widget
corwin1968 01-11-2011, 01:12 PM Back in the very late 90's, Bellini's was one of my favorite restaurants. I first ate at the Norman location and then went to the Edmond location (now Ted's Escondido) several times. Once the two satellite locations closed I didn't have much inclination to mess with going to a restaurant under a hotel so I haven't eaten there in some time. I'm sorry to hear they've gone downhill. At one time they served some great food.
bluedogok 01-11-2011, 09:39 PM They aren't in the hotel building, they are in one of the office buildings at the garage level. You can see their patio dining area from Penn.
I know Bellini's opened at that location in 1990, but anybody remember what was there before them?
There was a restaurant in that exact space in the 80's.
Bigrayok 01-12-2011, 04:26 PM Roosevelt's? I wanted to mention Brooklyn's but I think it was at Memorial and Penn.
Bigray in Ok
Martin 02-01-2017, 12:55 PM i have no idea how bellini's is still open...
made the mistake of eating there today... the only option was from their limited lunch menu and i chose from their 'build your own pasta'... tortellini, alfredo sauce, and parmesan chicken. the pasta was clearly from frozen as i have the same exact stuff in my freezer that costs around $20 for two pounds. the sauce was thin, flavorless, and obviously from a powdered mix. the chicken was WAY overcooked and dried out and the breading was just shy of burned. they garnished the whole thing with a few shavings of parmesan that looked as if it had been sitting in the fridge too long. this was $14. to wash it down, i ordered a soft drink (another $3) and was given a 20oz bottle of flat diet dr. pepper... with an advertisement for 'batman v. superman' on it... from last summer. the expiration date on the soda was may 2016.
to say that the meal was a complete joke is an understatement.
Roger S 02-01-2017, 01:13 PM to say that the meal was a complete joke is an understatement.
Well I noticed that on Google Map they are now shown as Bellini's Underground... Perhaps that's where they are headed. ;)
TheTravellers 02-01-2017, 01:22 PM We got bamboozled into going there for Thanksgiving dinner and were sorely disappointed - didn't even have printed menus, they just told you what the 2 options were (standard turkey dinner and maybe salmon as the other choice, I think). Was terribly average for the price, but the large-sized bellini drinks made it tolerable. Totally agree with you, Martin...
soonerguru 02-01-2017, 04:03 PM They have been under new ownership for a year or so.
Richard at Remax 02-01-2017, 05:49 PM Went a few years ago for brunch and echo all the above posts. For a town that is getting better and better options by the week, they are doing nothing to revitalize their brand or image. It's a shame too.
TheTravellers 02-01-2017, 06:16 PM They have been under new ownership for a year or so.
Yep, the La Baguette guys. Shame it has gotten worse under them. I think their other venture failed too (but can't remember exactly what the deal was), not sure why they can't do at other places what they do at La Baguette, don't believe that's gone down in quality since we were last there a few years ago.
soonermike81 02-01-2017, 10:01 PM Man, this is unfortunate. I've been wanting to go back and eat here again. Last time I went was about 15 years ago, and I remember loving it. Probably going to steer clear now.
traxx 02-02-2017, 08:22 AM Even though I haven't been in a long time, I hate to hear this. I used to love Bellini's. It was a cool place and the patio was neat.
JarrodH 02-02-2017, 09:45 AM I'm not 100% sure on this, but last I had heard Bellini's was going to Michel's wife in the divorce. Michelle and his brother own La Baguette and I was told that he bought Bellini's and then subsequently divgot a divorce and she received this place in the settlement.
If true, Could really explain a lot.
Andon 02-02-2017, 12:08 PM I'm not 100% sure on this, but last I had heard Bellini's was going to Michel's wife in the divorce. Michelle and his brother own La Baguette and I was told that he bought Bellini's and then subsequently divgot a divorce and she received this place in the settlement.
If true, Could really explain a lot.
I believe this is correct, and - while this is just hearsay - I heard through the grapevine that anyone affiliated with Michel in any manner was either let go (staff) or cut off from contact (suppliers, etc.). Not the smartest move if true, but I can also understand (though not necessarily justify) where she might be coming from with all of this.
tfvc.org 02-02-2017, 03:37 PM That is pretty sad. I was a cook for Bellinis/Tommys back in the late 90s. I even opened and closed the Norman location. The food was really good under Tommy / Ahmad Farnia, sad that it has become so poor, especially in that location. That was the one to go to.
SSEiYah 02-02-2017, 10:35 PM I went a few months ago. I ate there once in 2010, it was medicore then. When I went there a few months ago it was the same thing, its overpriced for the quality of food.
Their Fettuccine Alfredo with chicken which tastes like a frozen meal should not be $18. $12 would be more like it. I have no problem with paying $18 but it better be fresh chicken, home made pasta and home made Alfredo sauce. Their $34 Filet special was ok, certainly not a $34 steak in my opinion, at $25 sure its fine, no complaints. I dont expect prime $34, but it should still be a step above Montana Mikes or Outback but its not, they just put their sauce on it. Add in the cost of drinks which are higher than average as well and its almost like you are giving the waiter/waitress a tip plus another $20 on top for the atmosphere for a party of two, no thanks. They were also understaffed on a Friday night and it took forever to get drinks and to pay the bill. It was fairly busy on a Friday night at 7pm so obviously some folks like it but its not the place for me.
Fix the food, make more stuff from scratch and use better quality ingredients, otherwise align the prices with what the competition is charging, that's pretty much all they gotta do to fix it.
Man, this is unfortunate. I've been wanting to go back and eat here again. Last time I went was about 15 years ago, and I remember loving it. Probably going to steer clear now.
Don't fret. You can get almost the same experience as 'old school' Bellini's at Tommy's on Memorial...
Joe Kimball 02-08-2017, 02:23 PM Don't fret. You can get almost the same experience as 'old school' Bellini's at Tommy's on Memorial...
I last was at Tommy's a couple of years ago. I really liked the food: e.g., the seasoning of the meatballs and the quality of the pepperoni on the pizza (as well as the fine crust thereof). What's more, Tommy himself was eating there with family, and he's a real nice guy, a class act.
ljbab728 03-26-2017, 01:00 AM An update on Bellini's.
http://m.newsok.com/article/5542947
We dropped dishes with a French twist, which didn't work, and brought back Bellini's favorite Italian dishes, including pollo pancetta, lasagna, and spaghetti and meatballs. The chef for Tony's Italian Specialties, the predecessor of Rococo Restaurant on Penn, helped out in the beginning. Fan favorites include our honey pecan salad, the chicken or veal Marsala, the chicken or veal piccata, and gnocchi, a potato and pasta mixture that I fell in love with on a trip through the Italian countryside when I was six months pregnant with my firstborn.
Bits_Of_Real_Panther 07-14-2017, 06:38 PM http://www.sweetdealscumulus.com/deal/oklahomacity/bellinis-7
d-usa 07-14-2017, 07:31 PM That just sounds like the dying swan song for that place.
corwin1968 07-15-2017, 09:20 AM That is pretty sad. I was a cook for Bellinis/Tommys back in the late 90s. I even opened and closed the Norman location. The food was really good under Tommy / Ahmad Farnia, sad that it has become so poor, especially in that location. That was the one to go to.
Do you remember a seafood pasta dish that was served cold and had pine nuts in it? That was one of the most amazing Italian foods I've ever eaten. This was the Edmond location that is now Ted's.
SoonerDave 07-15-2017, 10:24 AM That just sounds like the dying swan song for that place.
Yeah hard not to get that vibe from the ad...all-but *begging* to come out. Sad.
tfvc.org 07-15-2017, 03:48 PM Do you remember a seafood pasta dish that was served cold and had pine nuts in it? That was one of the most amazing Italian foods I've ever eaten. This was the Edmond location that is now Ted's.
Honestly I don't remember the exact ingredients. I mostly worked grill/saute'/pizza. I found an old menu here:
https://www.allmenus.com/ok/edmond/220497-bellinis-restorante-grill/menu/
Are you talking about:
Seafood Pasta Salad $11.50 capellini pasta topped with roma tomatoes, pine nuts and our light basil vinaigrette. Served with skewers of grilled shrimp, scallops and vegetables? I remember the seafood and veggies being marinated ahead of time in the basil vinegrette (can't remember if it was house made or not, more than likely it was this product which was also in the muffaletta/relish: http://orders.piazzaproduce.com/producepro/prodcat/0005/80421.JPG You can only buy it in bulk and wholesale though. For the dressing you can probably take some Italian dressing and add fresh basil / parm and let it sit for a few hours or so to let it all marinate.
If Bellini's is going downhill I sure wish Tommy Byrd would buy them out. I know Ahmad is now part owner and Executive Chef of Museum Cafe in MOA so he is too invested there, but would love for him to bring Bellini's back to it's old glory.
corwin1968 07-15-2017, 05:02 PM Honestly I don't remember the exact ingredients. I mostly worked grill/saute'/pizza. I found an old menu here:
https://www.allmenus.com/ok/edmond/220497-bellinis-restorante-grill/menu/
Are you talking about:
Seafood Pasta Salad $11.50 capellini pasta topped with roma tomatoes, pine nuts and our light basil vinaigrette. Served with skewers of grilled shrimp, scallops and vegetables? I remember the seafood and veggies being marinated ahead of time in the basil vinegrette (can't remember if it was house made or not, more than likely it was this product which was also in the muffaletta/relish: http://orders.piazzaproduce.com/producepro/prodcat/0005/80421.JPG You can only buy it in bulk and wholesale though. For the dressing you can probably take some Italian dressing and add fresh basil / parm and let it sit for a few hours or so to let it all marinate.
If Bellini's is going downhill I sure wish Tommy Byrd would buy them out. I know Ahmad is now part owner and Executive Chef of Museum Cafe in MOA so he is too invested there, but would love for him to bring Bellini's back to it's old glory.
Thanks for finding and posting that old menu! The Seafood Pasta Salad is almost certainly the one I was thinking about. I'll try the Italian dressing with basil and parmesan. Sounds easy enough.
Mr. Blue Sky 03-14-2019, 08:41 AM Closing for good. This weekend will be their last.
https://i.postimg.cc/grQrXb72/97614-C9-F-FB56-4-F6-D-A939-ACAC3-F13762-C.png (https://postimg.cc/grQrXb72)
From Bellini’s Facebook
https://m.facebook.com/bellinis.okc
From their Facebook page:
To all the wonderful customers we have had the pleasure to serve, we have to say farewell. To the staff, I’d like to thank all of them old and new for making each day a new adventure, and challenging me to be diplomatic under all circumstances.our doors are closing and our hearts are heavy but the future will bring something fresh and new. Come join us this weekend one last time!
Martin 03-14-2019, 09:12 AM that's no surprise... they were pretty decent in the 90's but the last time i went it was comically bad.
jedicurt 03-14-2019, 09:20 AM that's no surprise... they were pretty decent in the 90's but the last time i went it was comically bad.
was my thought as well... i worked right near that for quite some time, and a group of us went for after work drinks just once... and then we always found somewhere else, even though it was the closest place
TheTravellers 03-14-2019, 09:20 AM Yay, a restaurant that deserves to be closed finally is. :Smiley122
burlap 03-14-2019, 10:05 AM Worked there in high school for many years in the early 2000s. Sort of sad, but the people who ended up taking it over ran it into the ground. Just awful experience. Might have to go get a beer one last time. Just makes me sad from the nostalgia. Spent a lot of time up there pre and post remodel. Still miss that pizza oven from back in the day.
OKCretro 03-14-2019, 10:05 AM Surprised that it didnt stay open through the Redbud Classic Weekend.
It's a simple matter of tons and tons of new places opening all the time and some of those that have been just hanging on are being pushed over the edge.
It's a somewhat sad consequence of much more competition in the market. That is generally a good thing as standards continue to elevate.
I will also say that if you are newish and therefore spent a bunch of money getting going, the margin for failure is small. It wasn't that long ago that anything new was relatively successful just due to pent-up demand. That is no longer the case. Way, way too many good options now.
burlap 03-14-2019, 10:45 AM The people that took it over changed the concept, and across the board it was a bad experience. Food, drinks, service, etc. That is what made us not go there anymore. Everyone I talk to complained about how awful of a product it turned into.
Libbymin 03-14-2019, 12:10 PM Surprised that it didnt stay open through the Redbud Classic Weekend.
I don't think they had much of a choice. I think they owed quite a bit of money to certain parties.
bchris02 03-14-2019, 12:25 PM It's a simple matter of tons and tons of new places opening all the time and some of those that have been just hanging on are being pushed over the edge.
It's a somewhat sad consequence of much more competition in the market. That is generally a good thing as standards continue to elevate.
I will also say that if you are newish and therefore spent a bunch of money getting going, the margin for failure is small. It wasn't that long ago that anything new was relatively successful just due to pent-up demand. That is no longer the case. Way, way too many good options now.
Yep. Same thing as what happened to Mamacita's. The status quo in OKC right now is much higher than it was 10 or 20 years ago. These older establishments that have refused to evolve or step up their game won't survive and that really isn't a bad thing. It's capitalism in action.
burlap 03-14-2019, 12:54 PM Yep. Same thing as what happened to Mamacita's. The status quo in OKC right now is much higher than it was 10 or 20 years ago. These older establishments that have refused to evolve or step up their game won't survive and that really isn't a bad thing. It's capitalism in action.
I would argue Bellini's did evolve into something nobody wanted. They lost all their regulars and the menu turned into garbage.
^
But they wouldn't have had new owners and lots of changes if the previous years hadn't already been bad.
It's very hard to turn around a struggling restaurant, even with new ownership.
soonerguru 03-14-2019, 11:09 PM ^
But they wouldn't have had new owners and lots of changes if the previous years hadn't already been bad.
It's very hard to turn around a struggling restaurant, even with new ownership.
We all wondered when this would happen. it's hard to believe, but I remember when this place was THE S-IT! OKC dining options have evolved, and sadly, Bellini's did not.
chuck5815 03-15-2019, 08:57 AM Yep. Same thing as what happened to Mamacita's. The status quo in OKC right now is much higher than it was 10 or 20 years ago. These older establishments that have refused to evolve or step up their game won't survive and that really isn't a bad thing. It's capitalism in action.
i wouldn't really group these two together. Mamasita's had a fantastic location and that was about it. the food was completely unremarkable. basically a step above taco night at the frat house.
okatty 03-30-2019, 04:59 PM Rumor mill is the Tommys on Memorial is closing and moving to the Bellinis location (not sure if under the Tommys name or something else).
stile99 03-30-2019, 07:12 PM While it doesn't explicitly say, I read the following as it will be using the Bellini's name.
http://www.tommysitaliangrill.com/#about-marquee
Fast forward to today, Tommy got the itch to jump back into the game! Tommy’s Italian Grill has been a landmark of the NW OKC area now for almost 5 years and April 18th will be it’s last day for business.
But Tommy’s not done yet!
We have a unique opportunity to step back into time and bring back OKC’s feelings of nostalgia, as Tommy takes on the exciting task of rejuvenating his original concept, Bellini’s at the Waterford!
So this is a Farewell, For Now! We look forward to continue to serve our loyal patrons and new guests at Bellini’s on 63rd and Penn as soon at May 2019!
okatty 03-30-2019, 07:40 PM Good info...thanks stile99
Mr. Blue Sky 04-08-2019, 10:44 PM This is great! Tommy Byrd is moving back to Bellini’s (which he founded) and the menu sounds like Bellini’s will soon be back with the original name and owners. Couldn’t be happier for Tommy. Can’t wait!
https://newsok.com/article/5628164/bellinis-demise-greatly-exaggerated
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