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MadMonk
01-20-2011, 08:07 AM
The Kilpatrick turnpike was in pretty decent shape this morning. They've done a great job on it. The main city streets weren't too bad, but of course my neighborhood street was an ice rink.

Roadhawg
01-20-2011, 08:16 AM
and of course you have to watch out for the idiot drivers who think they can drive like they usually do....

OKCMallen
01-20-2011, 09:04 AM
Downtown was actually as bad as any road I was on from 50th and Western to here.

BBatesokc
01-20-2011, 09:17 AM
Already been from home SE OKC to downtown OKC today. Definitely slick in spots, but not really bad at all if you go slow and pay attention (i.e. put your phones down and drive!).

bandnerd
01-20-2011, 09:27 AM
The Kilpatrick turnpike was in pretty decent shape this morning. They've done a great job on it. The main city streets weren't too bad, but of course my neighborhood street was an ice rink.

Good to know. I'm only dealing with the turnpike, I-44, and downtown, so looks like it should be okay! I'll let the sun stay out for a little bit to help melt it away. I can already see blue sky on my side of town.

adaniel
01-20-2011, 10:20 AM
Downtown was actually as bad as any road I was on from 50th and Western to here.

I live and work in Midtown/Dowtown area. The roads I take to work were all passible but extremely slick (and I take some pretty busy roads). Also, many of the surface lots that are ususally full by now are eerily empty and at least a handful of retail businesses are closed.

OKCisOK4me
01-20-2011, 12:59 PM
Driving to work in the 11 o'clock hour was as easy as after a rainstorm. Of course, the ice scraping of my car was a bit of delay, but the roads were A O K. I hope they dry off real well cause I don't get off til 8 tonight.

Thunder
01-20-2011, 01:50 PM
Next round!

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/images/rtimages/oun/fxc_Weekend.jpg

^^^ Graphic may change.

OKCisOK4me
01-20-2011, 03:39 PM
Who cares. It's a "slight" chance... But you keep on praying for bad weather Thunder and one day you'll get your karma.

venture
01-20-2011, 04:45 PM
Not really buying the weekend stuff to be much more than a flurry or sprinkle.

Also, lay off of Thunder. This thread tends to be a weather geek thread too, and yes...some of us like seeing mother nature got crazy every now and then. :-P I personally love intense winter storms since they aren't as localized as spring severe weather and you don't have to drive 200 miles to see it. LOL

Thunder
01-20-2011, 04:49 PM
The graphic changed. They downgraded it to slight. But anything can change until then.

OKCisOK4me
01-20-2011, 06:56 PM
Not really buying the weekend stuff to be much more than a flurry or sprinkle.

Also, lay off of Thunder. This thread tends to be a weather geek thread too, and yes...some of us like seeing mother nature got crazy every now and then. :-P I personally love intense winter storms since they aren't as localized as spring severe weather and you don't have to drive 200 miles to see it. LOL

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I am a weather freak! LOL. When my friends want to know about the weather, they ask me. As an inside joke, a friend of mine calls me Mike. I call him Rick (cause he's a weather freak too). When a siren goes off, screw the center of the house, I'm out front in the yard looking for the darn thing! I just don't wish for Armageddon. If it happens it happens. Today wasn't horrible and look how people still can't handle their cars.

Thunder
01-20-2011, 06:58 PM
Hoping for a decent snowfall with decent snow on the ground is not Armageddon. Last I checked, snow is not fire. :-/

Easy180
01-20-2011, 08:23 PM
I waited til 7:20 to get out and the highways were in decent shape then...saw lots'o trucks on the side of the road....Not sure why truck guys haven't noticed by now they make up 75% of the wrecks in snow and ice and take that right foot off da pedal a little

venture
01-21-2011, 12:22 AM
Yeah, truck drivers tend to not realize rear wheel vehicles don't handle the ice as well. Anywho...weekend system doesn't look like much of anything with nearly all precip going north of OK. Following drought update will probably start becoming the main story into February unless we start seeing some moisture around here.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/images/rtimages/oun/fxc_Drought_Update.jpg

venture
01-23-2011, 04:03 PM
Maybe some help with the drought situation coming up...you all know the drill, way far out...things can change...so ya.

January 30th PM map: http://goo.gl/maps/n9rh
January 31st AM map: http://goo.gl/maps/F8PD

This looks like it'll be a pretty fast moving shot at winter weather. Of course it is a week out so things will change 83 times before then. Upper air looks like it will support mostly snow, which should keep us away from much icing. There is the chance for some freezing drizzle in the PM on the 31st as the snow moves out. Precip amounts are pretty inflated right now as they usually tend to be this far out. Worst case scenario 0.5" to 0.8" of liquid equivalent from Central into South Central OK. Depending on the snow quality will determine on how much actually piles up...so just going by the default 10 to 1 ratio can't really apply this far out.

Second part of the story will be a reinforcing shot of arctic air. Afternoon highs on Jan 31st may only be in the teens to low 20s. Low on the morning of Feb 1st could be anywhere from 5 to 10 above. Temps look like they will get back above freezing a couple days later, so nothing that bad at all. Some additional shots of cold air will happen every couple of days, but nothing terrible that we haven't had already.

Thunder
01-23-2011, 04:40 PM
This looks real exciting!!!! Now, if only we can make the system move slow or stall over us. :-D

venture
01-23-2011, 06:45 PM
This looks real exciting!!!! Now, if only we can make the system move slow or stall over us. :-D

Yup, and the afternoon models erased it completely. :) So we'll just have to wait and see if anything happens next weekend.

Thunder
01-23-2011, 07:14 PM
Yup, and the afternoon models erased it completely. :) So we'll just have to wait and see if anything happens next weekend.

Now its down to 82 times now. :-P

venture
01-24-2011, 05:24 PM
Okay, so to give an idea of how insane and stupid long range models can be. LOL So I am just going to use the last 24 hours-ish as an example. The date, February 1st daytime morning hours.

12Z Run on 1/23/10: Dry, temps 5 to 10 above.
18Z Run on 1/23/10: Few clouds, flurry...temps mid 20s.
00Z Run on 1/24/10: Dry temps low 30s.
06Z Run on 1/24/10: Light Snow, temps low 30s.
12Z Run on 1/24/10: Light Freezing Drizzle, temps around 30.
18Z Run on 1/24/10: OMGWTF Ice Storm or Heavy Rain (over 1"). Temps around 30.

So what are we on now? 75 more times it can change? LOL Just thought it was entertaining to show how crazy and rough long range forecasts are. However, they provide for good discussion material up until it happens. $10 the next run has us dry and in the 40s. :-P

FritterGirl
01-24-2011, 05:49 PM
I like the OMGWTF forecast. Sounds very official. Is this a specific computer designation? :Smiley063

Bostonfan
01-24-2011, 08:25 PM
Please, anything but freezing rain!!

Easy180
01-24-2011, 08:55 PM
I like what weather.com shows for the 1st

Fifty with 10% chance of rain

Thunder
01-24-2011, 09:08 PM
Okay, so to give an idea of how insane and stupid long range models can be. LOL So I am just going to use the last 24 hours-ish as an example. The date, February 1st daytime morning hours.

12Z Run on 1/23/10: Dry, temps 5 to 10 above.
18Z Run on 1/23/10: Few clouds, flurry...temps mid 20s.
00Z Run on 1/24/10: Dry temps low 30s.
06Z Run on 1/24/10: Light Snow, temps low 30s.
12Z Run on 1/24/10: Light Freezing Drizzle, temps around 30.
18Z Run on 1/24/10: OMGWTF Ice Storm or Heavy Rain (over 1"). Temps around 30.

So what are we on now? 75 more times it can change? LOL Just thought it was entertaining to show how crazy and rough long range forecasts are. However, they provide for good discussion material up until it happens. $10 the next run has us dry and in the 40s. :-P

Thanks for the laugh!!! Only you can make me smile on here (Penny, too). :-D

venture
01-25-2011, 12:05 AM
Okay, so 00Z Run for 1/25/10 (this evening)... Icepocalypse has gone away, for the most part. New map to reflect model trends: http://goo.gl/maps/s0vJ

Precip amounts are still a bit high, but will show them with high chance areas on the map. With the setup as it looks now there is a chance for sleet to play havoc with the snow totals. Surface temps will be around freezing or just above. Not going to bite though with an amount forecast until we see consistency for a few days and get closer. Highest precip amounts are from Central OK back to the west. No the OMGWTF totals from earlier, but still over a half inch (liquid).

Other things to note going forward. January 30th may see some heavy rain in SE OK...away from the driest areas of the state unfortunately. Chance of Rain/Snow around the 5th. Chance of Rain/Storms around the 8th. Chance of Rain/Snow around the 9th. The 8th looks like highs may be back in the 60s...so naturally if we can really warm up, we'll have snow the following day.

Easy180
01-25-2011, 10:05 PM
Most sites are predicting close to 40 with chance of snow flurries on the 1st...Either way it looks like a one morning or one day event

OKCisOK4me
01-26-2011, 12:17 PM
My weather channel app is showing the 31st with a chance of snow showers and partly cloudy on the 1st. I can deal with that.

venture
01-26-2011, 05:09 PM
Storm track is still wacky. Will do an update to the maps and stuff tonight.

Bostonfan
01-26-2011, 05:26 PM
Mike Morgan has just said a potentially life threating winter storm for Monday/Tuesday. Ratings must be low during this mild winter.

Thunder
01-26-2011, 06:47 PM
Mike Morgan has just said a potentially life threating winter storm for Monday/Tuesday. Ratings must be low during this mild winter.

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! He is the only one to use fear tactics to make people to listen. Quite funny!!!

venture
01-26-2011, 06:54 PM
That's because the good ol' 18Z GFS run (why this time is always the wonky one) snapped back to predicting over a foot of snow in Central and Western OK...and over 6" in the rest of the state. It'll be back to a drizzle come 00Z. :-P

Thunder
01-26-2011, 07:58 PM
Any reasons why these models keep changing? There must be something there that is changing for these models to detect.

venture
01-26-2011, 08:08 PM
Just depends how good the data is going into them and how they handle every little calculation. I guess you can look at it from the perspective of the butterfly effect. One little blip somewhere can alter the entire forecast.

venture
01-27-2011, 12:35 AM
So tonight's AccuOMGWTForecast continues some of the mania from the 18Z, just repositioned a bit. So first some comments/thoughts.

1) There will be some sort of precip next week, and we'll probably see a flake or two.
2) Things are going to change model wise for the next 4 days.
3) Local media will start hyping more than Mike Apocalypse Morgan.

Now, let's just discuss what things are showing with the understand that this is going to be irrelevant in 6 hours.

January 30th through Midnight February 1
Drizzle to Light Rain will increase through the period. Amounts will be very light, and temps will remain above freezing through the period. South Central OK might see some heavier raid towards the end of the period...possibly over a half inch of rain. Rest of the state will be around a tenth of an inch.

February 1st - Completely inaccurate worst guess forecast map: http://goo.gl/maps/JJ3x
12AM - 6AM: Temps will hover below freezing at the surface, but we'll have a warm layer of air about 1500' up. This would result in freezing rain for the most part during this period. Freezing rain will transition to sleet and snow mix. Transition of course will play havoc with even guessing accumulations right now. Worst guess is around an inch western OK, and 1-3" from Central into NE OK. Liquid precip amounts are over a half inch from OKC to TUL along I-44, but I would imagine a lot of that is probably going to be rain or sleet before full transition to snow happens. Winds will be 20-25 mph during this period.

6AM - 12PM: Temps well below freezing at this point and cold air is established at all levels. Light to Moderate snow looks to continue. Precip forcasts put a band from the TX Panhandle into NW OK and another batch in Central OK to the east. Wind appears to be 15-25 mph. Additional snow accumulation during this period could be as high as 2-4" in the focused areas.

12PM - 6PM: Light snow continues in the West and South, maybe an inch there. Moderate to Heavy snow possible from Central into NE OK. Central into NC Oklahoma can see another 2-4". Areas from just NE of OKC up I-44 to the MO line could see 3-5" of snow.

6PM - 12AM: Light Snow in Central OK to some moderate snow in the east as the storm moves out. Looks like we'll probably dry slot out here in Central sections pretty quick, so this may not really do much. Winds ease back to 10-20 mph. Additional precip amounts are pretty light. Maybe an inch Central to 1-3" East. Could also see freezing drizzle develop in Western OK moving into Central sections.

So if you do the math. The worst case going to change in 6 hours so this is pointless forecast for precip amounts in Central OK...Rain: 0.10", Freezing Rain: 0.1 to 0.25", Sleet/Snow: 6-12". Last part, fresh snow fall could also mean temps could drop quite a bit into the single digits for lows. So we'll just have to watch for that too.

Extended forecast...which like everything else will completely change.

February 4th - Back above freezing.

February 6th - Some Rain/Snow mix in NW OK.

February 8th - Light Rain Central and East.

February 9th - Light Rain/Snow West and East, dry central.

February 10th - Snow...most of OK.

February 11th - Dry and cold.

Thunder
01-27-2011, 01:23 AM
These graphics will change after each newscast with weather. Interesting.

http://services.trb.com/kfor/7day.jpg

http://services.trb.com/kfor/fire.jpg

venture
01-27-2011, 10:00 AM
Some thoughts from NWS Norman...

FIRST PART OF NEXT WEEK IS LOOKING MORE TROUBLESOME IN TERMS OF SNOW AND ICE. MED-RANGE MODELS STILL DIFFER ON TIMING OF THE SYSTEM ARRIVING ON THE OR-CA COAST EARLY SUNDAY AND INTO THE S PLAINS FIRST HALF OF NEXT WEEK. BUT THEY APPEAR TO BE CONVERGING ON A SCENARIO THAT WOULD GIVE US A PRECIP LULL AROUND MONDAY IN WAKE OF THE WEEKEND SYSTEM... FOLLOWED BY INCREASIHG CHANCES MON NIGHT THROUGH TUE NIGHT. PROBLEM IS THAT THE CANADIAN AIR WILL BE ON THE OFFENSIVE DURING THIS PERIOD AND WILL EITHER BE MOVING INTO THE AREA OR WILL ALREADY BE IN PLACE. ECMWF REMAINS MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN THE GFS ON THE ARCTIC HIGH INTRUSION INTO THE S PLAINS MONDAY... AND WOULD BE THE MORE LIKELY SCENARIO IF THERE WERE ALREADY A BIG ARCTIC HIGH AND A LOT OF BITTER COLD AIR UP THERE RIGHT NOW. BUT THERE ISNT. THE ECMWF IN FACT HAS BACKED OFF FROM YESTERDAY`S 1051 HIGH OVER MT AND 504 THICKNESS INTO OK NEXT TUE... BUT MODEL CONSENSUS STILL SUPPORTS A 1040-SOMETHING HIGH INTO THE N PLAINS MONDAY WHICH WILL PUSH COLDER AIR INTO THE REGION WHILE THE UPPER SYSTEM APPROACHES FROM NM. FORECAST THUS PRESENTS A MORE GRADUAL CHILLDOWN OVER THE SUNDAY-TUESDAY PERIOD - BUT A SIGNIFICANT ONE NONETHELESS. LARGE-SCALE EVOLUTION OF FEATURES ON CURRENT MED-RANGE MODELS IS PRETTY TYPICAL OF A HEAVY-SNOW EVENT IN THE S PLAINS... BUT THE MORE GRADUAL INJECTION OF LOW-LEVEL COLD AIR SUGGESTS A CONCURRENT POTENTIAL FOR A PERIOD OF ICE BEFORE THE COLD AIR WINS OUT AND SNOW PREVAILS BY THE END OF THE EVENT. POPS HAVE BEEN INCREASED
MON NIGHT INTO TUE NIGHT PER LATEST GFS GUIDANCE. TEMPS LATE IN THE FORECAST AGAIN ARE CLOSE TO LATEST HPC GUIDANCE.

SYSTEM NEXT WEEK COULD GO IN ANY OF SEVERAL DIRECTIONS - MOSTLY SNOW OR MOSTLY ICE OR SOME OF EVERYTHING. WOULD NOT EVEN BE SURPRISED AT COLD AND DRY WITH LITTLE OR NO PRECIP GIVEN THE WAY THINGS HAVE BEEN GOING LATELY. WE WILL HIT IT A LITTLE HARDER IN THE HWO... BUT WILL EMPHASIZE THE EXISTING UNCERTAINTIES ON DETAILS INCLUDING TIMING...AMOUNTS... AND PRECIP TYPE/S.

venture
01-27-2011, 11:33 AM
12Z GFS is keeping the trend of a Winter Storm for Monday into Tuesday.

January 31st - Map: http://goo.gl/maps/vJgX

Precip will be fairly light. Some light drizzle/rain will transition quickly to flurries/light snow in the northwest. Maybe a dusting up to an inch there. Southeast will see mostly rain for now, though it will be light. The rest of the state will be anybodies guess right now. Right now it appears it will start as light rain and transition (from NW to SE) into a freezing rain, sleet, and then snow situation. Precip will be mostly light but will start picking up in intensity over night going into the 1st. Could see a glaze of ice around 0.10 of an inch in places. Also sleet and snow accumulations could be around an inch as well. Mostly likely area for the wintry accumulation will be the western half of the outlined area. Northeast OK may stay rain a bit longer.

February 1st - Map: http://goo.gl/maps/UYVN

Winter storm begins to get into full swing. Central OK looks like it will be pretty much snow for the entire 24 hour period, but could still see some sleet mixing in for the first few hours. Winds look like they'll be around 10-20 mph for most of the day. Temps will start around 30 early and fall to around 20 through the day. Precip amounts still look pretty crazy, but I'm not going to bother repeating my disclaimer again...everyone knows the drill by now. Peak time for snow for the OKC metro looks like around mid day as the models paint a little bullseye right over us indicating precip amounts around a half inch (liquid) during that 6 hour period. So depending on snow crystal quality, that could be around an inch an hour snowfall rates. Snow will begin to push off to the east through the evening, ending in the southwest first. NE OK may still see some accumulating snow up to midnight.

Long range sneak peak still has something towards the middle of the month, but not even going to worry about it right now.

Thunder
01-27-2011, 11:44 AM
KFOR's 7-Day graphic is very interesting. Last night from Mike was not so bad. This morning from David was very frightening. And now from Troy is being quite soft on all this. Very interesting to see the different opinions at the same station.

OKCisOK4me
01-27-2011, 01:47 PM
Well, I'm gonna be a cheerleader for DRY SLOT on Tuesday cause I have bowling league on Tuesday nights and I want to bowl next week!

venture
01-27-2011, 02:25 PM
Well, I'm gonna be a cheerleader for DRY SLOT on Tuesday cause I have bowling league on Tuesday nights and I want to bowl next week!

LOL. Yeah...but personally, i'd rather not have the state burn down from it being so dry. Take whatever moisture we can get at this point.

OKCisOK4me
01-27-2011, 03:04 PM
LOL. Yeah...but personally, i'd rather not have the state burn down from it being so dry. Take whatever moisture we can get at this point.

Nothing will ever be as bad as January 1st, 2006. There were like 15 grass fires in central Oklahoma that New Years Day. It smelled like a roast in Edmond!

venture
01-27-2011, 04:05 PM
Norman Update...


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORMAN OK
338 PM CST THU JAN 27 2011

.DISCUSSION...
VERY WARM TEMPERATURES ARE IN STORE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS...ALTHOUGH THERE IS SOME DISAGREEMENT IN THE MODELS ABOUT HOW FAR A COLD FRONT WILL MOVE SOUTH ON SATURDAY. GFS BRINGS FRONT INTO THE NORTHERN THIRD OF THE CWA BY 00Z/SUNDAY WHILE ECMWF AND ESPECIALLY THE NAM KEEP THE FRONT NORTH OF THE AREA. IN COORDINATION WITH THE ADJACENT KANSAS OFFICES... WILL GO CLOSER TO THE WARMER NAM SOLUTION FOR SATURDAY AT THIS POINT. ALL THE MODELS DO SHOW THE COLD FRONT MOVING THROUGH THE AREA SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY MORNING BEGINNING A MUCH COOLER PERIOD OF TIME. REINFORCING SHOTS OF COLD AIR LOOKS TO COME IN EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH TEMPERATURES COLDEST TEMPERATURES EXPECTED ON TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY.

PRECIPITATION FORECAST IS STILL TRICKY. AT LEAST SLIGHT PRECIPITATION CHANCES BEGIN ON SATURDAY NIGHT AND PERSIST INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK. MEDIUM RANGE MODELS DO INCREASE THE PRECIPITATION CHANCES NEXT WEEK ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES IN THE LOCATION AND TIMING OF THE PRECIPITATION... AND STILL UNCERTAINTY ON PRECIPITATION TYPE ESPECIALLY EARLY IN THE EVENT. SURFACE FRONT WILL BE WELL TO THE SOUTH OF THE AREA AND ISENTROPIC ANALYSIS SHOWS DECENT MOISTURE FEED AND LIFT ABOVE THE FRONTAL SURFACE... BUT NOT IN THE TYPICAL CONFIGURATION FOR US. INSTEAD OF A MOIST SOUTHERLY FLOW ABOVE THE FRONTAL SURFACE... THE MOIST FLOW IS A EAST TO WEST FLOW FROM ARKANSAS DESPITE THE LACK OF A STRONG LOW-LEVEL CYCLONE. SO THERE IS THE UNCERTAINTY ABOUT MOISTURE AVAILABILITY FOR THE STORM SYSTEM EARLY NEXT WEEK ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE POOR TRACK RECORD OF THE MOISTURE RETURN IN THE MODELS WITH SOME OF THE RECENT NON-EVENTS. REGARDLESS AT THIS POINT... CHANCE POPS ARE WARRANTED ON MONDAY NIGHT TO TUESDAY NIGHT ALTHOUGH GEOGRAPHIC AND SIGNIFICANCE DETAILS ARE STILL VERY
MUCH IN QUESTION. AND AT THIS POINT ALL OF THE MEDIUM RANGE MODELS SUGGEST THAT PRECIPITATION WILL END TUESDAY NIGHT SO WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY ARE DRY AND WARMING IN THIS PACKAGE.

Thunder
01-27-2011, 05:42 PM
Just to update on the above graphics before it changes.

Mike's latest thinking... and it is a major change from Troy's calm forecast.

Major Winter Storm Possible
- Ice for Monday
- Snow for Tuesday

Second Graphic
- Bitter Ice then Snow
- Life Threatening Weather Very Possible

So, to look at it from a broad state-wide view, I guess that all of these statements is correct. There will be ice somewhere. There will be snow somewhere. There will definitely be serious cold across most of the state. Life Threatening, yes, depend on how you look at it... Idiots dangerously driving to their doom. Electricity outage, no heat, death is imminent.

We have to admit that Mike's fear tactics is good and serves as a wake-up call to everyone to PREPARE and BRACE FOR IMPACT. Best go stock up on vital supplies before it gets too late when the stores is in chaos with depleted supplies.

bandnerd
01-27-2011, 05:47 PM
Better go out and get 20 gallons of milk and 50 loaves of bread. I never know what people plan to do with those items during an ice storm/potential power outage.

Everyone panic!!!

OKCisOK4me
01-27-2011, 05:53 PM
Thunder, lol, I was about to do an update on MM's Armageddon forecast. You better get a cot and take it to work with you cause it sounds like you're gonna be stuck there bagging a ton of groceries for everyone on the east SIIIIIIIIIIIDDE!!

adaniel
01-27-2011, 06:09 PM
Better go out and get 20 gallons of milk and 50 loaves of bread. I never know what people plan to do with those items during an ice storm/potential power outage.

Everyone panic!!!

I never got why people felt the need to buy 6 loaves of bread for the possibility of being stuck in the house for a maximum of 2 days.

Easy180
01-27-2011, 07:02 PM
70 for 3 days straight...Thinking the ground temps will be still be in the 50's when the crap hits

Love the "Life threatening weather" line...good lord

Thunder
01-27-2011, 07:04 PM
Thunder, lol, I was about to do an update on MM's Armageddon forecast. You better get a cot and take it to work with you cause it sounds like you're gonna be stuck there bagging a ton of groceries for everyone on the east SIIIIIIIIIIIDDE!!

Fortunately, I am on medical leave until Summer (prefer to wait until after Spring due to La Nina's major tornado outbreaks season). Until then, I can enjoy the wide weather varieties with Venture. <3

Thunder
01-27-2011, 07:06 PM
I never got why people felt the need to buy 6 loaves of bread for the possibility of being stuck in the house for a maximum of 2 days.

If there are massive power outages, it can take weeks for power to restore. It makes logical sense to stock up on bread, but not for milk, unless they plan to leave them outside in the coolers. Oh, what a world!

venture
01-27-2011, 07:56 PM
70 for 3 days straight...Thinking the ground temps will be still be in the 50's when the crap hits

Love the "Life threatening weather" line...good lord

Grounds temps are still in the low 40s. There will be some melting initially (if we go by the doomsday forecast) thanks to the temp and liquid precip. However, snowfall rates and plummeting temps will likely overcome that pretty fast. Anywho...this forecast is going to change a dozen more times, so we'll see what happens.

Andrew4OU
01-27-2011, 10:06 PM
Grounds temps are still in the low 40s. There will be some melting initially (if we go by the doomsday forecast) thanks to the temp and liquid precip. However, snowfall rates and plummeting temps will likely overcome that pretty fast. Anywho...this forecast is going to change a dozen more times, so we'll see what happens.

Wasn't it 60-70 degrees the day before the 2009 Christmas Eve Blizzard?

Bostonfan
01-27-2011, 10:12 PM
Wasn't it 60-70 degrees the day before the 2009 Christmas Eve Blizzard?

I believe so... It seems most of our big winter storms come on the heels of very mild temps just days before.

venture
01-27-2011, 10:36 PM
I believe so... It seems most of our big winter storms come on the heels of very mild temps just days before.

It does seem to be a pretty common occurrence around here. :-P

00Z GFS is coming in now and seems to move the highest snowfall totals west a bit. Will post a full recap when it is done loading.

adaniel
01-27-2011, 10:47 PM
Just got done watching Mike Morgan...all I can say is WOW. I am actually startled! This storm is going to be "life threating" and maybe only "a notch" below the Christmas Eve blizzard with at least a half foot if not more of blowing/drifting snow.

Who wants to storm the grocery store with me tommorow?

Andrew4OU
01-27-2011, 10:50 PM
Just got done watching Mike Morgan...all I can say is WOW. I am actually startled! This storm is going to be "life threating" and maybe only "a notch" below the Christmas Eve blizzard with at least a half foot if not more of blowing/drifting snow.

Who wants to storm the grocery store with me tommorow?

Only if we can buy half a dozen loaves of bread each.

venture
01-27-2011, 10:50 PM
Just got done watching Mike Morgan...all I can say is WOW. I am actually startled! This storm is going to be "life threating" and maybe only "a notch" below the Christmas Eve blizzard with at least a half foot if not more of blowing/drifting snow.

Who wants to storm the grocery store with me tommorow?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_f6vPFbisEsA/S-NabctHeRI/AAAAAAAACfY/BInLCBrkLWs/s1600/panic.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_oVd7hYxS-Rc/SsH8xvqJ-II/AAAAAAAACUM/ZOjG6yDQF_k/s400/09292009231.jpg

Thunder
01-27-2011, 10:57 PM
Scottie, is that Meg Alexander?

Mike Morgan: "Just a moment as I am looking over the latest model run... *screams* AHHHHHHHH!"
-Screen goes blank.
Kevin Ogle: "And we are back. I apologize for the minor difficulty earlier. Lets go back to Mike Morgan with weather."
Mike Morgan: "Thank you, Kevin. I have just reviewed the latest model run and...... and..... WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!"

Effect on the viewers...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/35/73683816_54283c405a.jpg

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The end is near. Trapped. Snowdrifts all around the house. Nowhere to go. Mike Morgan on television. Someone is inside your home. Who is it? The Winter Horror coming soon February 1st, 2011.

http://collegecandy.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/151419__chucky_l.jpg

venture
01-27-2011, 11:10 PM
Okay the run down of the GFS tonight is well...sigh. Needless to say, the models are still crazy unstable and don't take any of this for fact until it is....Monday night. And even then...LOL. I would consider this situation a more worst case than the previous because...

Biggest chance, heaviest snow moved to Western and NW OK. Accumulations around 12" up there. 6"+ line is from Hollis to El Reno to Guthrie to Bartlesville. Then OKC metro and right along I-44 and just south a couple miles...1-3" of snow. Good news yes? Heh. Good thing this model is more bipolar than...well...anyway.

OKC surface temps drop to near or just below freezing midnight on the 1st. Freezing drizzle is possible and will increase to freezing rain. This could last into the mid afternoon in OKC, at least according to this run. With this setup, we are looking at ice accumulations ranging from 0.5 to 0.75. This would put it well into the classification for an Ice Storm. So yeah...worst case scenario.

Either way, the position and track of the storm (which is still well off the Pacific coast) is going to be the big key in this. Will we get an ice storm, major snow storm, or cloudy cold and dry? My take aways in.

1) The amount of precipitation that will fall has been pretty consistent of at least a half inch of liquid.
2) The cold air will be here at the surface, but the air about 2000' up is still going to be in question.
3) We'll get a lot of alerts and panic talk over the next few days. However, we probably won't know how it will turn out until it starts.
4) Don't be shocked to see Winter Storm Watches roll out on Sunday. Even if questions are still flying, they'll want to cover their bases and make sure everyone is paying attention for the possibility.

blangtang
01-28-2011, 12:08 AM
Get out yer shorts, flip flops and bbq's, and enjoy some late January weather for the next couple days folks! :)

venture
01-28-2011, 05:08 AM
06Z Models continue trend of 00Z with an ice storm along I-44 and heavy snow N of it.