I'm about to go to just internet.

I have the options of ATT & Cox. I prefer ATT due to Cox having a lot of extra fees that I remember them adding.

My only concern with not having cable is I will be missing Thunder games. How does everyone watch them? It costs a lot to get FSSW included.

I don't know that you can watch them without at least a streaming service. For example. my PS Vue service has Fox Sports, and while they don't yet have Fox Sports OK, you can use your PSVue credentials to log into the Fox Sports GO app and watch Thunder games.

I'm about to go to just internet.

I have the options of ATT & Cox. I prefer ATT due to Cox having a lot of extra fees that I remember them adding.

My only concern with not having cable is I will be missing Thunder games. How does everyone watch them? It costs a lot to get FSSW included.

Probably will come down to price vs. speed between the two. COX will provide you much faster Internet (but you have to keep testing your connection yourself and complaining when it isn't what you're paying for). However, many people don't need the faster connection if all you're doing is surfing the net and occasionally streaming TV.

Guys, I worked on the business side of Cox for about 9 years. You have to do what BBates said.... call and haggle with them. They sure as heck aren't going to call you to tell you they can save you $. You have to pick up the phone and call them. If you haven't talked to them in over a year, you are probably spending too much. I am a silent partner in a communications business here in OKC. We don't do residential negotiation, but last week we fought for a business entity here in OKC. We did the haggling and negotiating for them. THey were spending about $1,000 a month, now they will be about $650 for the same services. They did have to renew their agreement to get the better rates, but over 3 years we saved them over $12,000. They wouldn't have known any better. Cox tried the Jedi mind trick to give them faster speed for the same price...then they tried to just lower the bill about $100. If anyone has a business and wants their communications analyzed to see if they can save $, send me a private message.

Yeah I started this year's phone haggling with them and it went nowhere. I've found a competing offer from DirectTV that I'll use as my weapon of choice, and in fact, it's a $75/month package that gives me 4-room whole-house DVR and all the channels we watch regularly, and right now I'm paying over $150/month for the TV side of Cox...

Yeah I started this year's phone haggling with them and it went nowhere. I've found a competing offer from DirectTV that I'll use as my weapon of choice, and in fact, it's a $75/month package that gives me 4-room whole-house DVR and all the channels we watch regularly, and right now I'm paying over $150/month for the TV side of Cox...

I can also tell you that you may try a couple of times. It is truly wild west in regards to whom you talk to, and their recordkeeping and notes aren't very well. So if you call in today and get nowhere, chances are that tomorrowwhen you call they won't see "soonerdave called in yesterday".

I recently tried to just go with internet from cox, the person I talked to at cox was going to charge me almost $100 per month just for internet after the modem rental and wifi router fees. Also they kept telling me that I was going to have a data cap. I asked if I could install the equipment my self, they told me that since I have not been a customer with cox in over 2 years, they had to charge me a large installation fee for a tech to come "inspect" the coax cable and install the equipment.

I am with Directv and at&t internet right now. I don't like having to call every 2 years or earlier to get better rates. When I had cox before, we just had 1 HD dvr and 15 meg internet and the bill was 150+.

I've had someone at Cox give me their personal line once in the number of years I have had them. Like mentioned above, if you don't talk to the same person it doesn't seem like they have any info about your problem, etc. When I set up my cable at my apt a couple years ago, it took them 2 plus weeks to get it activated. I spent countless hours on the phone (mainly on hold) and they tried to tell me that there wasn't a problem and if they sent someone out they would have to charge me a fee... for something that ultimately ended up being their fault. I have never dealt with worse customer service and would not be using them if I had another option. Currently I only have internet, and that is still $80/month.

I recently tried to just go with internet from cox, the person I talked to at cox was going to charge me almost $100 per month just for internet after the modem rental and wifi router fees. Also they kept telling me that I was going to have a data cap. I asked if I could install the equipment my self, they told me that since I have not been a customer with cox in over 2 years, they had to charge me a large installation fee for a tech to come "inspect" the coax cable and install the equipment.

I am with Directv and at&t internet right now. I don't like having to call every 2 years or earlier to get better rates. When I had cox before, we just had 1 HD dvr and 15 meg internet and the bill was 150+.

All their installation amounts to is ensuring there's no filter between the coax and the cablemodem. If you had TV they'd split and put a filter on the TV side, but the data side has to be unfiltered. Renting the modem is a loser proposition - you can buy one from BestBuy or several online retailers and do a self-install where all you do is call a phone number, provide them the MAC address of the modem, and they provision it online for you.

The caps aren't bad. I have the 150mpbs level and a 1TB cap, and I've never come *close* to it at all - and we're a family of four with lots of 'net surfing and some streaming - although we don't really do much "binge watching" as some do.

I gripe about the TV price, but I've been satisfied with the Cox Internet. Others mileage may vary, but its been OK for me.

I've had someone at Cox give me their personal line once in the number of years I have had them. Like mentioned above, if you don't talk to the same person it doesn't seem like they have any info about your problem, etc. When I set up my cable at my apt a couple years ago, it took them 2 plus weeks to get it activated. I spent countless hours on the phone (mainly on hold) and they tried to tell me that there wasn't a problem and if they sent someone out they would have to charge me a fee... for something that ultimately ended up being their fault. I have never dealt with worse customer service and would not be using them if I had another option. Currently I only have internet, and that is still $80/month.

Yeah to clear a customer support call as quickly as possible they'll try as hard as they can to shunt responsibility to you and threaten a "truck roll", and if they decided the problem wasn't theirs you get a fee. I'm hoping I've not been blackballed from any good rates because I fought with them over their use of DRM on ALL their channels, which has the effect of forcing me to buy/rent their equipment for DVR service...we'll see.

Okay, did my battle with Cox; not as good as I'd hoped but they knocked $25/month off and added HBO, and moved me to the 300mpbs Internet tier. I've got 30 days to decide if I want to keep it. I still might do the DirectTV offer, because NFL Sunday TIcket is included and that alone might be worth it LOL :)

SoonerDave, its takes some time and logistics, but you can cancel service in one person's name, while activating service in a different persons name. They don't like it, but there's really nothing they can do about it. I know a few people that have done this becuase sometimes (again, depends on who you talk to and how the planets are aligned) they tell an existing customer that they can't get the same promo or rates as a new customer. Just a way of retaining as much revenue as they can, and since they are the only coax show in town!!! Our neighborhood just got Uverse, and everyone loves the consistency and speed, along with the price. I am still on Cox employee rates, and will lay low until they come calling.....

SoonerDave, its takes some time and logistics, but you can cancel service in one person's name, while activating service in a different persons name. They don't like it, but there's really nothing they can do about it. I know a few people that have done this becuase sometimes (again, depends on who you talk to and how the planets are aligned) they tell an existing customer that they can't get the same promo or rates as a new customer. Just a way of retaining as much revenue as they can, and since they are the only coax show in town!!! Our neighborhood just got Uverse, and everyone loves the consistency and speed, along with the price. I am still on Cox employee rates, and will lay low until they come calling.....

Good info BLJR! My son is actually hoping I'lll still cancel the Cox TV part and go DirectTV because of NFL Sunday Ticket. He'd be able to see the Baltimore Ravens games that they rarely, if ever, play in the OKC market :) :)

I'm about to go to just internet.

I have the options of ATT & Cox. I prefer ATT due to Cox having a lot of extra fees that I remember them adding.

My only concern with not having cable is I will be missing Thunder games. How does everyone watch them? It costs a lot to get FSSW included.

Fox Sports Go (https://www.foxsportsgo.com/) has every Thunder game that is shown on Fox Sports Oklahoma as well as a bevy of sports programming that features OU and OSU teams for people living in Oklahoma. Playstation Vue's $35.00 package includes access to Fox Sports Go but it is accessed outside of the normal PS Vue channel selection. I have an Amazon Fire TV box and I use Amazon Fire TV's Fox Sports Go app to get any game that Fox Sports Oklahoma or Fox Sports Oklahoma Plus (2nd channel) schedules & additionally Fox Sports Go offers about 5 or more choices of programs most of the time.

Right now (7:15 pm Friday 3-3-17) I have 10 choices including The Thunder at the Suns, UFC 1 on 1, Women's College Basketball - Big 12 Tournament: TCU vs. Texas Tech, College Softball - Evansville at Oklahoma, College Baseball - LSU vs. TCU, Inside Villanova Basketball, This Week in Mizzou Basketball, Washington at UCLA men's basketball game (replay), FC Augsburg vs. RB Leipzig soccer (replay), FS West Prep Zone - Bishop Montgomery vs. Huntington High School. Cox only provided 2 Fox Sports Oklahoma choices.

About once a month Fox Sports Go downgrades my Fox Sports Oklahoma channels selection to one or 2 channels of which neither one ever shows Fox Sports Oklahoma programs. I have to sign out of the app & then sign back in to restore my full channel selection. I imagine it does this for security purposes.

Fox Sports Oklahoma is not limited to Playstation Vue. I have a Roku account which is accessed from another bedroom in my house at no additional cost. Apple TV, the Sony Playstation, your computer, your iOS or Android phone, and Chromecast are other devices that offer Playstation Vue and Fox Sports Go. For Chromecast, your computer & your phone, I believe you have to first register your new Playstation Vue account with another device (such as an Amazon Fire Box or Roku box) before you can access the Playstation Vue offerings, probably for billing security).

Beside Playstation Vue, if you subscribe to Direct TV Now, Sling TV, Apple TV, or YouTube TV (coming soon) you should also have the ability to access Fox Sports Go with Thunder, OU and OSU games - if you live in Oklahoma. You just have to pick the right package for your streaming device that includes access to Fox Sports Go.

Here's a link to 2017 streaming services: Best Movie & TV Streaming Services 2017 (http://www.newtechnologytv.com/best-tv-streaming-services/)

One more note on Cox or AT&T U-Verse, you can also download Fox Sports Go & have access to all of its Thunder, OU & OSU programming. Normally, though, you'll find the programs on Cox Channel 37 or Channel 68 (mirrored on Channels 722 and 715). Cox programming just costs a lot more & I'm very satisfied with the Playstation Vue channel selection and value.

Alright, all of this has my head swimming. Those of you who have looked into this, what should my family do? We watch the legacy networks via the local affiliates, ESPN, OETA, HGTV, Fox News, CNN, and Fox Sports Oklahoma (for Thunder coverage) and that's really about it. Truly. And we are paying SO MUCH to Cox for these handful of channels. What's our best bet? Anybody have a service that includes these channels that isn't too expensive and is reliable? Thanks in advance.

Alright, all of this has my head swimming. Those of you who have looked into this, what should my family do? We watch the legacy networks via the local affiliates, ESPN, OETA, HGTV, Fox News, CNN, and Fox Sports Oklahoma (for Thunder coverage) and that's really about it. Truly. And we are paying SO MUCH to Cox for these handful of channels. What's our best bet? Anybody have a service that includes these channels that isn't too expensive and is reliable? Thanks in advance.

What is your total cox bill?

Either way you will need internet and probably a decent speed package: ~$60 a month

Then you need the base package of an online TV network: PS VUE Core Slim has all the channels you want at $34.99 a month

You then need something to watch them on so you will have a one time fee of getting a FireTV, Apple TV or Android TV.

So about $94.99 a month. So just try to get Cox under that price with a bundle?

Cox bill with phone, cable and Net is bundled currently and close to $200. We also have Chromecast, will that work? Does Playstation Vue include a DVR-type component? So cancel the bundle, but upgrade our Internet service because that will improve the viewing experience?

1) Edit: Chromecast does work now. You just have to sign up and start it all on a PC first. From another forum: "Iphone or Android it doesn't matter, you need to first establish your profile and home location using a PC or TV-Connected device, then once that is done you'll be able to access the PS Vue app on your iPhone which supports casting to chromecast from iOS, but only REAL Chromecasts, not TV's or other boxes with built in cast support, they broke that somehow (unless it's been fixed in the last 2 months since the last time someone mentioned it)."

2) It has a cloud DVR

3) Yes you want high end internet to stream higher quality.

I just signed up for Uverse, and a TV/Internet package with all sports channels and up to 3 receivers is $110/month. This is a promotional rate, but it runs for 2 years and your contract is only 1 year. It was a lot better deal than anything I could find on Cox.

I just signed up for Uverse, and a TV/Internet package with all sports channels and up to 3 receivers is $110/month. This is a promotional rate, but it runs for 2 years and your contract is only 1 year. It was a lot better deal than anything I could find on Cox.

What's the Internet speed now with Uverse? I can't go any lower than the 150MB I have with COX.

People need to keep in mind that most of us use wifi in our houses and your speed will be cut even more when utilizing wifi. I had to directly connect my computers and home security cameras to maintain speeds even close to what I am paying for.

What's the Internet speed now with Uverse? I can't go any lower than the 150MB I have with COX.

People need to keep in mind that most of us use wifi in our houses and your speed will be cut even more when utilizing wifi. I had to directly connect my computers and home security cameras to maintain speeds even close to what I am paying for.

This is a HUGE point - you can have the fastest internet-to-ISP access in the world, but your "on-premise" performance is going to be constrained to the slowest device in the chain, and that's gonna be wi-fi. And that's going to be further complicated by the proliferation of devices that don't even offer a hardwired option. I want to push performance as hard as I realistically can, meaning I want hard connections...finicky wifi setups can be the cause of all kinds of problems, especially with so many devices competing for the same bandwidth.

What's the Internet speed now with Uverse? I can't go any lower than the 150MB I have with COX.

People need to keep in mind that most of us use wifi in our houses and your speed will be cut even more when utilizing wifi. I had to directly connect my computers and home security cameras to maintain speeds even close to what I am paying for.

Depends if your area has ATT Fiber, but if so 1000Mbps.

What's the Internet speed now with Uverse? I can't go any lower than the 150MB I have with COX.

People need to keep in mind that most of us use wifi in our houses and your speed will be cut even more when utilizing wifi. I had to directly connect my computers and home security cameras to maintain speeds even close to what I am paying for.

So we stream You Tube videos from a Chromebook via Chromecast over Wifi at our current Internet speeds (sorry don't know what they are) and generally the video quality is fine. If the quality in that scenario is acceptable, will it be the case do you think with live streaming via PS Vue for, say, sporting events?

We have a real Chromecast and use it via an older (2.5 yrs.) Chromebook--can that device be used to sign up and start it all? Also, does PS Vue have a free trial period to see how you like it?

You can get an ethernet adapter now for Chromecast to hardwire it to your router.

You can get an ethernet adapter now for Chromecast to hardwire it to your router.

Unfortunately they are not physically close enough in our case to do that.

Any options on having a better router with an ATT U-verse modem/router? What they provide is absolute crap.

We just dropped cox cable and added PS Vue on an Amazon Fire TV, which is pretty great so far. There is a free trial period. I'd recommend giving a PS Vue a try and using an antenna for over-the-air local channels.

We have a real Chromecast and use it via an older (2.5 yrs.) Chromebook--can that device be used to sign up and start it all? Also, does PS Vue have a free trial period to see how you like it?

The chromebook can yes.

And they offer 7 day free trial.

Unfortunately they are not physically close enough in our case to do that.

I use a setup with something like these - http://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Ethernet-Adapter-without-Routers/dp/B008EQ4BQG

I was able to use my existing cable connection to run from my router to my TV. Not sure if something like this would help you out. Obviously, you have to have an available coax connection within reach of your router. There are also ones that use your power lines. They can supposedly transmit at up to 2000Mbps but I have no experience with them.

We cut our DirecTV cable a few months ago now and just have Cox internet and PS Vue. Interesting thing about the Vue, even though we have a PS4 and two Amazon Fire TV's/Sticks we don't really use Vue to watch Live TV at all. We just "record" a few shows but mostly we're just using the service to log into the various apps out there and get instant access to shows and things.

So we're not really leaving the TV on anymore for background noise and more focused on individual shows as a family experience.

Does anyone have any experience with the AT&T Fiber in OKC and if it is truly as fast as it says?

Here's a speedtest I just did on my desktop. I pay for gigabit, but the AT&T guy will call it good if he gets 600
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Here's a speedtest I just did on my desktop. I pay for gigabit, but the AT&T guy will call it good if he gets 600
http://www.okctalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13808&stc=1

Also possible that the NIC in the desktop is limited at some speed below a gig.

I was paying for a gig until I realized that all of my devices seem to be limited to 100 MB/s or so. So the gig's only merit would be if I had a number of different devices streaming/downloading at the same time.

Also possible that the NIC in the desktop is limited at some speed below a gig.

I was paying for a gig until I realized that all of my devices seem to be limited to 100 MB/s or so. So the gig's only merit would be if I had a number of different devices streaming/downloading at the same time.

Also 7200 rpm SATA drive will write at 300-400 Mbps (at best). Even the faster SSDs are 500 Mbps or so. Speedtests are fine for some general idea of how your connection is performing, but they should not be used to ensure you're getting what you're paying for.

All this being said, you're right, a gig connection will only benefit you if you have multiple devices or people using it. Even a 4k UHD stream from netflix uses only about 25 Mbps.

Dumb double posts.

Also 7200 rpm SATA drive will write at 300-400 Mbps (at best). Even the faster SSDs are 500 Mbps or so. Speedtests are fine for some general idea of how your connection is performing, but they should not be used to ensure you're getting what you're paying for.

All this being said, you're right, a gig connection will only benefit you if you have multiple devices or people using it. Even a 4k UHD stream from netflix uses only about 25 Mbps.

Does ATT have a cap on data? I know Cox is something like 750gb.

I VPN everything so I am not sure how Cox treats data but I use quite a bit and my router always says I use more than the Cox website.

Does ATT have a cap on data? I know Cox is something like 750gb.

I VPN everything so I am not sure how Cox treats data but I use quite a bit and my router always says I use more than the Cox website.

I don't know about their giga plan, but my plan has a 500gb limit on AT&T U-Verse.

Does ATT have a cap on data? I know Cox is something like 750gb.

I VPN everything so I am not sure how Cox treats data but I use quite a bit and my router always says I use more than the Cox website.
Mine says unlimited, but I have it bundled with TV so maybe that's part of the deal. I was told that it would have a 1TB monthly limit if I ever decided to "un-bundle" and go Internet-only.

Anyone know of somewhere I can get info on when gigabit service might be available in my neighborhood? AT&T support is worthless for this.

We signed up with Cox last year when moving into a new office building. Unfortunately the roof leaks, the landlord won't fix it, and after repeated damage to our belongings we were forced to move. Our new office building has internet available to tenants, so I called Cox to cancel our account. They told me that we have a three year contract and they won't let us terminate it early, regardless of the reason. They won't even negotiate a lower price.

We signed up with Cox last year when moving into a new office building. Unfortunately the roof leaks, the landlord won't fix it, and after repeated damage to our belongings we were forced to move. Our new office building has internet available to tenants, so I called Cox to cancel our account. They told me that we have a three year contract and they won't let us terminate it early, regardless of the reason. They won't even negotiate a lower price.

At my previous job I had a similar experience. We closed our Norman office and switched to home offices for the in town employees, and we had a little over a year left on our Cox business contract. They're pretty strict about holding you to that.

AT&T gigabit has no data cap. I have a gig NIC, and am fully aware I won't use the full extent of it. However, I think at $90/month it's not a bad price.

I've been pretty happy with ATT Gigabit. The door to door guy convinced me when he promised $80/month. The promotional price only last for one year, despite the fact he told me it is for life. Still, performance is indeed near 1000 mbs up/down when running a speed test:

http://i.imgur.com/dtkdLXY.png

However.. at the end of the day, most will not notice any performance difference over a typical Cox 100/10 connection. HOWEVER... it depends on what your household usage looks like. I like to play online games and broadcast on Twitch/Beam. Having the extra bandwidth to upload does help, as Cox's pathetic 10mbps can be limiting.

If your home has high demands for streaming content, such as 5+ devices streaming 1080p or higher all at the same time, the extra download speed can help. Even then, to stream 4K Netflix, you only need 12mpbs down. Having 100, 150, or 300 is plenty of breathing room.

As others have mentioned, you are often limited more by the server you are downloading from, or your computer's ability to write the content to disk. My fastest real world download (non speed test) has been about 32 Megabytes/second which is still only 250 megabits per second (mbps).

The router/modem combo ATT gives you with their Fiber package is a Pace 5268 AC. It claims 1,700 mbps of total wifi speed. When conducting a Speedtest via wifi on my 802.11 AC phone, I get about 120 mpbs down, 235 mpbs up. Not sure why up is so much faster.

Keep in mind, this total 1.7 Gbps mentioned is the maximum available bandwidth assuming both 2.4 Ghz and 5.8 Ghz frequencies were being used. it would take MANY wifi devices to ever hit this. Would be excellent for a home network hard drive/file server.

I've had the service for ~80 days and I haven't had a single outage. The do have to run a new fiber line into your house, drill a hole in the brick, and place a medium/smallish box on the wall. The installation guy was top notch and didn't creep me out.

TL:DR - ATT Gigabit is the real deal, but it doesn't really matter for the vast majority of people. It is the only way to get good upload speed in OKC. Service is reliable.

Anybody experiencing extremely slow speeds on Cox tonight?

Streaming is pretty much impossible at these speeds. Averaging between 400 kbps and 1 Mbps. Paying for 150 Mbps. My upload is fine.

I don't know how long this has been going on, but I just noticed that Playstation Vue started to stream the News 9 feed. It won't help if your cable/electricity goes out, but it's a nice feature with the weather going on.

I don't know how long this has been going on, but I just noticed that Playstation Vue started to stream the News 9 feed. It won't help if your cable/electricity goes out, but it's a nice feature with the weather going on.

i got the trial for ps vue and was pretty underwhelmed with the quality. I have a 4k tv and 300 gb internet, but the picture looked like 480p or maybe 720i. I just can't get interested in the service for that reason.

What are you running it on?

What are you running it on?

Playstation 4 Pro

Playstation 4 Pro

Runs 1080i on my PS4 regular as well as my FireTV. I am on Cox with 150mbps and a 5ghz AC wireless router

That's surprising to hear I thought PS Vue personally looks great. DirecTV got to where I was seeing compression artifacts all the time but Vue appears very crisp, this is on a standard Samsung 1080p LED and a regular PS4.

Has anyone tried the DirecTV streaming service? Is it similar to PS Vue?

Are AT&T and Cox still committed to bringing Fiber to their customers? When Google Fiber was on the table it seemed like every other commercial was about gigablast - Now it seems it is hardly mentioned, I hope they havent decided to slow their roll out with google not entering the market.

Are AT&T and Cox still committed to bringing Fiber to their customers? When Google Fiber was on the table it seemed like every other commercial was about gigablast - Now it seems it is hardly mentioned, I hope they haven't decided to slow their roll out with google not entering the market.

I just got ATT at my house and they ran everything I need for Fiber.

I think I'm going to try out the Roku, was hoping the Apple TV would fit the bill, but it sounds disappointing without offering the app store or Hulu support.
i stopped using cable tv about 7 years ago and haven't missed it. i built an hd antenna so i could watch non cable tv. i have cox internet for using roku so i can stream netflix streaming (with dvd) and mlbtv. the $80 per month tv fee is now being saved for important items like truck repairs and trips.

Anyone else had major issues with Cox internet this week? I've been getting massive ping, horrible delays in loading, particularly Twitter media and certain CDN's.

Anyone else had major issues with Cox internet this week? I've been getting massive ping, horrible delays in loading, particularly Twitter media and certain CDN's.

Yes

Same here, Netflix has been a pain to load.

Same with me.

Mine was bad for about 1 day. Twitter and netflix are fine again.

The wife and two kids couldn't handle the jank of having different apps and boxes to watch different stuff so we re-upped with Cox cable. Vue was going up in price to I believe about $40/month anyway. So we would be paying $120/month with internet and PS Vue service. Kinda pitted Cox against what DirecTV was offering me and got 3 rooms, a record 6 DVR, the 100 MB internet package and way more channels than we were able to watch before for $137/month. After 12 months it does go up to $152 as I expected. So I got a better deal than I was expecting. Figure I'll give it a year and hopefully the Internet TV landscape has smoothed out a bit with all the competition coming this year.

I know this is something that will vary for many people, but I really don't watch more than a handful of channels and found myself paying for 50 more channels just so I can watch 2 more. That's the benefit of Vue for me, it doesn't have as many channels as cable packages, but it has the ones that matter to me.