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chssooner
07-18-2021, 02:01 PM
+1

The Twitterati will be merciless. It would be a major setback to the City, just as we’re starting to build some positive momentum.

No.

Jake
07-18-2021, 02:01 PM
Imagine thinking Twitter is reflective of real life.

Pete
07-18-2021, 02:08 PM
Then what should it be? You are quick to bash what hasn't been announced, why not offer your take? Want OKC to have Microsoft sponsor it, or Dell, or Apple, or some other "forward" company? Just honestly curious what it should be.

I'm not commenting on it being good or bad.

I'm just refuting your silly point that nobody outside of OKCTalk will care.

Pete
07-18-2021, 02:12 PM
BTW, it's ridiculous to simultaneously claim that the Thunder are a great way to communicate to the world that OKC is a "big league city" (a point constantly raised every time the Thunder want an upgrade to the arena or their practice facility at taxpayer's expense) and then that it doesn't matter that the city-owned arena that hosts them with the name in every article and every TV shot doesn't matter at all.

WheelerD Guy
07-18-2021, 02:13 PM
Imagine thinking Twitter is reflective of real life.

It’s more reflective/material than you might otherwise think.
Fortunately, I realized that several years ago.
And own a nice amount of shares.

David
07-18-2021, 03:15 PM
But again, the ONLY people who give more than 1/1000th of a crap about this are people on this board. That is it! Literally, no one outside of here will care at all. It will not move the needle either way. Paycom would not move it positively, at all. Like, are people seriously thinking it matters?

And no one will care if it is named based off a truck stop company. People in Minneapolis won't be saying "thank goodness our arena isn't named that." Image does not matter in arena name. Not 1 iota. Just seems like people on here want to piss on OKC whenever they get. Loves, Paycom, Hobby Lobby, no one outside of OKCtalk.com will give a single bad word about it.

Paycom Arena would absolutely move the needle in a positive direction. Up and coming software company would be far better naming rights than a truck stop company.


Imagine thinking Twitter is reflective of real life.

Twitter is not real life, but Twitter is where 95% of the media interact with each other and the public. It has a huge impact on how stories are covered.

catch22
07-18-2021, 03:27 PM
Paycom Arena would absolutely move the needle in a positive direction. Up and coming software company would be far better naming rights than a truck stop company.



Twitter is not real life, but Twitter is where 95% of the media interact with each other and the public. It has a huge impact on how stories are covered.

Paycom has commercials on all of the business-orinted channels CNBC, Fox Business etc. Having that name being connected to Oklahoma City would definitely spin things in a positive light for the city. Way more than Love's Truck Stop City.

chssooner
07-18-2021, 03:28 PM
Paycom Arena would absolutely move the needle in a positive direction. Up and coming software company would be far better naming rights than a truck stop company.



Twitter is not real life, but Twitter is where 95% of the media interact with each other and the public. It has a huge impact on how stories are covered.

Love's, if public, would likely be a top 200 company. Paycom isn't even top 1000. Not sure you can even compare the 2. I'm done debating on here. People are Gibraltar on their points.

Plutonic Panda
07-18-2021, 03:31 PM
Love's, if public, would likely be a top 200 company. Paycom isn't even top 1000. Not sure you can even compare the 2. I'm done debating on here. People are Gibraltar on their points.
Okay all knowing master lord thank you for blessing this thread with your presence you will surely be missed.

HangryHippo
07-18-2021, 04:37 PM
Okay all knowing master lord thank you for blessing this thread with your presence you will surely be missed.
lol

Laramie
07-18-2021, 05:09 PM
Love's, if public, would likely be a top 200 company. Paycom isn't even top 1000. Not sure you can even compare the 2. I'm done debating on here. People are Gibraltar on their points.

He didn't say he was leaving the forum--he like many of us are flustered with this thread. Once we hear something official on the naming rights--forum haggling will be back as usual.

Take a break chssooner, and keep posting. We're just getting our second wind--we will need you.

kukblue1
07-18-2021, 05:26 PM
99% of people could give a crap on what an arena is named. There are far worst names out there now than Loves. KFC yum Center. So everyone in Louisville eats fried chicken?

mugofbeer
07-18-2021, 05:34 PM
I don't know, the Love's Shack has a ring to it.

David
07-18-2021, 05:38 PM
The Love Shack wins on funny points if a miracle happened and we got that instead of 'Love's Travel Stops & Country Stores Arena'.

Lafferty Daniel
07-18-2021, 08:06 PM
I'm still holding out hope for the Gary England Doppler Dome. A guy can dream, right?

Rover
07-18-2021, 08:10 PM
The Love Shack wins on funny points if a miracle happened and we got that instead of 'Love's Travel Stops & Country Stores Arena'.

I can almost guarantee that if Loves is title sponsor as Love’s Travel Stop...., it will still be referred to by most as the Love Shack.

Rover
07-18-2021, 08:12 PM
Would love for Express to sponsor. I think the Thunder Express Arena has a nice ring to it.Thunder express sounds like doom is on the way for any visiting team.

Bowser214
07-18-2021, 08:31 PM
Hell no Not Express!

soonergolfer
07-19-2021, 01:02 AM
Yum arena isn’t a professional arena. It’s a college arena. Like comparing apples and chimpanzees.

chssooner
07-19-2021, 07:17 AM
Yum arena isn’t a professional arena. It’s a college arena. Like comparing apples and chimpanzees.

Not really. And Louisville basketball is a very, very big brand. Might even be bigger than the Thunder. In terms of scale. Not apples to apples, but apples to pears. It is a lot closer than you think. How about the Phoenix Arena (Footprint Arena)? Is that a better comparison?

Dob Hooligan
07-19-2021, 07:31 AM
I think the groundbreaking on the Love family women’s hospital at Mercy last week suggests the time frame is too close for Love’s to be the arena naming sponsor.

Laramie
07-19-2021, 08:41 AM
I think the groundbreaking on the Love family women’s hospital at Mercy last week suggests the time frame is too close for Love’s to be the arena naming sponsor.

Dob, I feel you are correct. Shawnw mentioned Steve Lackmeyers reference on social media. That may have been done to completely throw everyone off; much to the reference he once made with the 'Make Dallas & Kansas City jealous' remark.

Lackmeyer is harilously likes to playfully tease, then smile with that sheepist grin on his face...

WheelerD Guy
07-19-2021, 09:51 AM
Dob, I feel you are correct. Shawnw mentioned Steve Lackmeyers reference on social media. That may have been done to completely throw everyone off; much to the reference he once made with the 'Make Dallas & Kansas City jealous' remark.

Lackmeyer is harilously likes to playfully tease, then smile with that sheepist grin on his face...

I know exactly the grin you’re talking about . . .

16977

kukblue1
07-19-2021, 09:52 AM
Yum arena isn’t a professional arena. It’s a college arena. Like comparing apples and chimpanzees.

https://gocards.com/facilities/kfc-yum-center/7 It was build with a professional team in mind. Hold 22,000. Nice than what we have in OKC

gopokes88
07-19-2021, 10:09 AM
Love's, if public, would likely be a top 200 company. Paycom isn't even top 1000. Not sure you can even compare the 2. I'm done debating on here. People are Gibraltar on their points.

Paycom is in the S&P 500. There are many different ways of measuring a company, revenue isn't the only one.

chssooner
07-19-2021, 10:22 AM
Paycom is in the S&P 500. There are many different ways of measuring a company, revenue isn't the only one.

S&P 500 is not the Fortune 500. But the more money a company makes, the more likely they will be to spend on a frivolous arena naming. I am not bashing Paycom, just tired of those who hate on Love's, when they would be another Fortune 500 for this state, which it needs.

Pete
07-19-2021, 10:23 AM
^

Nobody is hating on Love's. You need to chill.

chssooner
07-19-2021, 10:38 AM
^

Nobody is hating on Love's. You need to chill.

Having Love's sponsor the arena sends a poor image of OKC. Seems like that is hating on Love's. Maybe I misread, but I do apologize for seeming hostile. I just think that Love's is a forgotten company in OKC, since they are a private company. So I took the comments as thinking they are small potatoes. That is my bad!

SEMIweather
07-19-2021, 10:49 AM
AFAIK there’s still been zero official news or even a well-respected journalist posting any pertinent speculation on what the name will actually be, correct?

Pete
07-19-2021, 10:57 AM
^

Correct.

And I don't think anyone minds if the arena is named for Love's.

If it turns out to be Love's Arena that's fine but if it's Love's Travel Stops Arena (as they've named the stage at Scissortail Park), that's when truck stops are put into every report about the Thunder and that is not a good image for OKC.

Mballard85
07-19-2021, 11:02 AM
S&P 500 is not the Fortune 500. But the more money a company makes, the more likely they will be to spend on a frivolous arena naming. I am not bashing Paycom, just tired of those who hate on Love's, when they would be another Fortune 500 for this state, which it needs.

I think the issue is the name itself, no one hates Loves, they are from my understanding a pretty solid company to work for and do a lot for the city. But when it comes to the name of the arena, its a very long hokey name, that isn't bashing them. I HATE Paycom, but I certainly see the draw of them for the naming sponsor. Loves has the sponsorship on the jersey's, they have Loud City, they do not need to have every sponsorship available, it gives off a one trick pony vibe.

shawnw
07-19-2021, 11:07 AM
To clarify, by all accounts I've heard, Loves is a great company to work for. Also, the Love's have been an OUTSTANDING supporter in our communities in numerous ways by my observation.

HOT ROD
07-19-2021, 12:42 PM
Devon Energy Arena

SEMIweather
07-19-2021, 12:44 PM
I would still be somewhat surprised if it was Love’s just because I don’t believe there’s another sponsor in the league that does both the jersey patch and the arena name. Doesn’t mean it can’t happen, but it would surprise me.

OkieHornet
07-19-2021, 01:14 PM
As long as there are Oklahoma City Thunder games and big-name concerts at the arena, it can be called OKC Landfill Dump Arena and I wouldn't care.

gopokes88
07-19-2021, 02:07 PM
S&P 500 is not the Fortune 500. But the more money a company makes, the more likely they will be to spend on a frivolous arena naming. I am not bashing Paycom, just tired of those who hate on Love's, when they would be another Fortune 500 for this state, which it needs.

But being listed in the S&P 500 is a very very big deal.

Fortune 500 is by revenue.

But S&P 500 is by market cap, which tells you the market thinks they are one of the 500 most valuable/important/growth etc etc companies in this country.

This isn't Loves v Paycom.

It's some posters are placing more value on Paycom having the naming rights because of the perception it would drive for OKC.

dcsooner
07-19-2021, 06:28 PM
I am amazed at how some discount business located in Oklahoma that could be located anywhere but chose to stay in state and contribute significantly to all things OKC. It's not MY money being paid to be placed on a building. It's not like OKC is a destination for fortune 500 companies. I think bashing private companies who bring attention to a City that otherwise is an afterthought is frankly stupid. Paycom could be anywhere, Hobby Lobby could be anywhere. Hasn't OKC lost enough Big companies, do we want to continue to under appreciate the companies that do stay and expand and support the City/State. Geez

Pete
07-19-2021, 06:31 PM
Nobody is bashing any of the local companies.

Bill Robertson
07-19-2021, 06:35 PM
Not a single negative comment that I can find on social media from when the Love's Travel Stops Nascar car won the Daytona 500!

dcsooner
07-19-2021, 06:37 PM
Nobody is bashing any of the local companies.

Won't bother pointing to the post #'s. each can reach their own conclusion whether the comments come across as negative

catch22
07-19-2021, 09:15 PM
Won't bother pointing to the post #'s. each can reach their own conclusion whether the comments come across as negative

I have a feeling you are referring to my post. I never commented on the employees in a negative light. In fact I mentioned most of the stores seem well run and have had a few problems with them.

They do carry the reputation of their industry; and there is no escaping that. I would have the same comments about TA Truck Stops Arena; Maverick Truck Stops Arena; or Pacific Pride Refueling Center Arena. Heck I would be okay with Hobby Lobby Arena despite my personal feelings towards their corporate activism. They are not a truck stop!

The citizens have every right to be concerned with the name of a facility that will be used in every national and international sporting event coverage of it for the foreseeable future. There are going to be varying opinions of that no matter what.

If it is Love’s I hope they leave the Travel Stop part out of the name. I can live with that as a compromise lol

Laramie
07-21-2021, 03:21 PM
If it's not Loves who obtain naming rights, we're all going to surprised.

king183
07-21-2021, 04:01 PM
If it's not Loves who obtain naming rights, we're all going to surprised.

I'm thinking it's going to be Paycom.

Dark horse candidate: the Chickasaw Nation.

Laramie
07-21-2021, 04:05 PM
I'm thinking it's going to be Paycom.

Dark horse candidate: the Chickasaw Nation.

Real possibilities. I thought about the Chickasaw Nation because of the Bricktown Ballpark.

PoliSciGuy
07-21-2021, 04:13 PM
Sonic Arena has a nice ring to it.

Super dark horse: LifeChurch

HOT ROD
07-21-2021, 05:29 PM
It's Hobby Lobby

Jersey Boss
07-21-2021, 05:35 PM
Canoo Coliseum. They just came into a pile of cash.

Laramie
07-21-2021, 05:35 PM
It's Hobby Lobby

What! You are kidding...

timothy.a.owen
07-21-2021, 07:04 PM
It's Hobby Lobby

Burn it down.

Pete
07-21-2021, 07:13 PM
Hobbly Lobby spends very little in OKC outside their campus; that is other than to forward bible-based curriculum in public schools.

dankrutka
07-21-2021, 09:21 PM
Yum arena isn’t a professional arena. It’s a college arena. Like comparing apples and chimpanzees.

The arena is in the middle of their downtown and the signage hovers over the entire area. Have you been to Louisville? It’s about as visible of a downtown arena as you’ll see. It is not some quaint college arena. And, no, I don’t think people all judge the city on it. How many people here even knew which city had SLEEP TRAIN ARENA? Lol.

I honestly think Love Shack would be endearing and fun. Low Shack is associated with a pop song for most people, not an actual shack. I agree that the full Love’s name is lame, but that’s even more a reason that an idiosyncratic nickname would be a good brand.

SagerMichael
07-21-2021, 09:36 PM
Love’s Arena or Love’s Center doesn’t sound bad

ShadowStrings
07-21-2021, 09:38 PM
That song is over 30 years old, and while it's well-known and very catchy, people under a certain age have no connection with it at all (and this will only become more and more the case as time goes by). Outside of that song, the word shack has mostly negative connotations and denotations. I wouldn't want our city's premier venue to be referred to as a shack. Also, it wouldn't work with the company's name. It would have to be the Love's Shack, which I guess could still be fun.

I know this discussion is all in jest, so I'm not taking the Love Shack discussion too seriously. But my guess is that a poll of a younger demographic would look a lot different than a poll of this forum. Lol.

Bowser214
07-21-2021, 10:06 PM
I still think SONIC arena wouldn't be so bad. And it's kind of a jab at Seattle lol.

Pete
07-22-2021, 07:42 AM
Remember, Sonic is now owned by Inspire Brands based in Georgia.

jn1780
07-22-2021, 08:23 AM
Yeah, that ship has sailed.

WheelerD Guy
07-22-2021, 09:27 AM
It's Hobby Lobby

I’d be fine with either them or Braum’s.

The pink ice cream logo would look really sharp on that building.

HOT ROD
07-22-2021, 12:34 PM
doesn't matter who the parent company is or where they are.

OKC had arguably the best mark in the entire NBA with the Ford Center which was a marketing agreement with the OK Ford Dealers using the Ford brand. Similar could be done here with Sonic where either they or the parent buys the rights and name it whatever they want. BTW, Sonic is a subsidiary not fully run by the parent therefore they still retain their corporate structure and identity - hence also why the commercials haven't changed and dont even identify the parent company at all. .. Arena naming rights would be similar despite the $$ likely coming from the parent.

Pete
07-22-2021, 04:04 PM
^

The huge difference being that the decisions of the OK Ford dealers were made locally, not by investors in Georgia.

FighttheGoodFight
07-22-2021, 04:37 PM
I’d be fine with either them or Braum’s.

The pink ice cream logo would look really sharp on that building.

I'll only support Braums if they show those 1980s commercials they keep showing to this day on the big screen.