Would the backseat/floor of a crew cab truck be adequate for the law?

Personally I could probably still reach everything back there fairly easy if I wanted to with the exception of passenger rear, so just curious because it seems like it defeats the point.

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thank you for the correction ..

http://www.oklegislature.gov/BillInfo.aspx?Bill=hb2122&Session=2100




i guess walkers and bikers are sol

A few months back when this was all being figured out, I brought that up with Greg Horton who was reporting on it. He actually reached out to ABLE's general counsel and it sounds like walkers and bikers **should** be able to use this as well. I'm just not so sure how many restaurants will be interested in interpreting the law that way

https://twitter.com/expastor/status/1393222252389453827?s=20

Well my only experience was talking to The Mont. They hand it to you and it is sealed. Only to go and if you have a drink at the restaurant they won't sell you one. But they just hand it to you and it says don't drink on the property.

That is what I was told at least.

A few months back when this was all being figured out, I brought that up with Greg Horton who was reporting on it. He actually reached out to ABLE's general counsel and it sounds like walkers and bikers **should** be able to use this as well. I'm just not so sure how many restaurants will be interested in interpreting the law that way

https://twitter.com/expastor/status/1393222252389453827?s=20It will depend completely on how each business interprets the law. For the couple of months I had an expired DL I carried my Concealed Carry License and an email from a lady in the ABLE legal dept. saying that ABLE was fine with that for an ID. I still got told at a few places that it had to be a current DL.

Strange you can't do it (legally) if you ride a bike or walk up. Sucks for the people that live walking/biking distance from somewhere. Probably is more of an indication of the lawmakers not considering this fact. Or they did, but thought this would increase drinking in public?

Yeah that’s kind of weird. If you want to drink and drive it’s not hard to do without ordering a to go drink. Plus the to go drinks have that tamper proof seal which shows if it has been opened.

The anti-liquor folks have used these kinds of arguments in opposition to literally every liquor law, starting with liquor by the drink. There's no logic here. It's already illegal to have an open container, so I don't understand what difference it would be if the drink were in the back seat or trunk as long as it is sealed.

The anti-liquor folks have used these kinds of arguments in opposition to literally every liquor law, starting with liquor by the drink. There's no logic here. It's already illegal to have an open container, so I don't understand what difference it would be if the drink were in the back seat or trunk as long as it is sealed.
I’m not really sure if you were arguing against what I said or what. But I basically say the last thing you did in the last sentence that I made.

And the reasoning for my initial point was that if we’re so worried about people drinking and driving then why not just regress go back to prohibition and force interlock devices in every car that won’t let it start without making sure you’re not intoxicated. I’ve had two DUIs they are not fun and believe me the interlock devices suck. My point is we don’t need these silly restrictions like the ones that came with the to go liquor law. If you see some asshole driving drunk nab the bastard for it. Simple as that.

But I could easily make the same argument the state allows people to drive drunk by letting bars have parking lots.

Found out something I did not know about retail cashiers selling liquor (Walgreen's is where I found out, but no doubt it applies everywhere). Cashiers can't just be 21 to scan liquor, they have to have an actual "liquor license" (that's what she called it, there's probably a more specific name for it) to scan it, and you have to pay to get one from ABLE. No idea what the requirements are or price is, just thought that was odd. Does each cashier that works in a liquor store have to have one, I wonder?

That is insane. Many states it doesn’t matter how old you are you can sell liquor.

That is insane. Many states it doesn’t matter how old you are you can sell liquor.

It's a money grab for ABLE, similar to MMJ fees, etc.

It's a money grab for ABLE, similar to MMJ fees, etc.
Able seems more like a mob than a government agency lol

Found out something I did not know about retail cashiers selling liquor (Walgreen's is where I found out, but no doubt it applies everywhere). Cashiers can't just be 21 to scan liquor, they have to have an actual "liquor license" (that's what she called it, there's probably a more specific name for it) to scan it, and you have to pay to get one from ABLE. No idea what the requirements are or price is, just thought that was odd. Does each cashier that works in a liquor store have to have one, I wonder?

This was 20 years ago, but I had to get one when waiting tables in college in order to sell alcohol.

Found out something I did not know about retail cashiers selling liquor (Walgreen's is where I found out, but no doubt it applies everywhere). Cashiers can't just be 21 to scan liquor, they have to have an actual "liquor license" (that's what she called it, there's probably a more specific name for it) to scan it, and you have to pay to get one from ABLE. No idea what the requirements are or price is, just thought that was odd. Does each cashier that works in a liquor store have to have one, I wonder?

Yes. When you're selling liquor in Oklahoma, wait staff, sales clerks, etc, all have to have a liquor license (in additional to the facility/establishment license). It's about $30. It's something that can be revoked for compliance violations (failure to card, etc). One thing about Oklahoma is that the server/clerk is personally responsible for verifying ID, not selling to intoxicated customers, etc. What's really messed up is that if someone uses a really good fake ID and buys liquor and gets busted, it's a misdemeanor for the customer, but it's a felony for the poor clerk who got fooled by the fake ID. Same thing about failure to ID - It was (and I assume is) pretty much an automatic $2000 fine levied against the employee themselves. It's not a cash grab though, IMO (the permits themselves). Much like gaming licenses for individual dealers, it ensures a level of personal responsibility for the point of contact with the customer.

The license is called an Employee License. Covered in Title 37A, 2-121. I can't count the number of times a cashier has had to get someone else to ring up beer.

The law for servers is a little confusing. You have to have an Employee License to be a server anywhere that serves alcohol. But you can get the license at 18. But you can only serve, not sell. Don't all servers really sell too?

Yeah, there was some added complexity when I first got the license as I was over 18 but under 21. I don't remember exactly how it worked, something about the bartender having to do a portion of the process that a 21 or above server could do themselves.

Yes. When you're selling liquor in Oklahoma, wait staff, sales clerks, etc, all have to have a liquor license (in additional to the facility/establishment license). It's about $30. It's something that can be revoked for compliance violations (failure to card, etc). One thing about Oklahoma is that the server/clerk is personally responsible for verifying ID, not selling to intoxicated customers, etc. What's really messed up is that if someone uses a really good fake ID and buys liquor and gets busted, it's a misdemeanor for the customer, but it's a felony for the poor clerk who got fooled by the fake ID. Same thing about failure to ID - It was (and I assume is) pretty much an automatic $2000 fine levied against the employee themselves. It's not a cash grab though, IMO (the permits themselves). Much like gaming licenses for individual dealers, it ensures a level of personal responsibility for the point of contact with the customer.

Actually it is a misdemeanor for selling if it is a first time.

Title 37A. Alcoholic Beverages
Oklahoma Alcoholic Beverage Control Act
Prohibited Acts - Violations - Penalties
Section 6-120 - Penalties for Selling, Furnishing, or Giving an Alcoholic Beverage to a Person Under Twenty-One (21) Years of Age

This Statute Will Go Into Effect
On: 11/01/2021
See Historical Data for Current Version
Cite as: 37A O.S. § 6-120 (OSCN 2021), Prohibited Acts - Violations - Penalties
A. Any person who shall sell, furnish or give alcoholic beverage to a person under twenty-one (21) years of age shall be guilty of a misdemeanor for a first violation, and upon conviction shall be fined not more than Five Hundred Dollars ($500.00), or imprisoned in the county jail for not more than one (1) year, or by both such fine and imprisonment. Any person convicted of a second or subsequent violation shall be guilty of a felony, and shall be fined not less than Two Thousand Five Hundred Dollars ($2,500.00) nor more than Five Thousand Dollars ($5,000.00), or imprisoned in the State Penitentiary for not more than five (5) years, or by both such fine and imprisonment. The ABLE Commission shall revoke the license of any person convicted of a violation of this section.

Hopefully this is okay to post here. Normally I’d post it in the legislative bills thread. This is related alcohol laws: https://kfor.com/news/oklahoma-legislature/proposed-bills-could-change-oklahomas-alcohol-laws/

Hopefully this is okay to post here. Normally I’d post it in the legislative bills thread. This is related alcohol laws: https://kfor.com/news/oklahoma-legislature/proposed-bills-could-change-oklahomas-alcohol-laws/SB1708 needs to add cashiers. Doesn't happen often but I've had grocery store cashiers have to call another employee to ring up beer because they weren't old enough.

SB1708 needs to add cashiers. Doesn't happen often but I've had grocery store cashiers have to call another employee to ring up beer because they weren't old enough.
Definitely should.

SB1708 needs to add cashiers. Doesn't happen often but I've had grocery store cashiers have to call another employee to ring up beer because they weren't old enough.

Actually, that's not why. I asked a Homeland cashier about it once recently, and she said that each cashier that can ring up wine/beer in a grocery store has to be old enough *and* have some kind of license (from ABLE, maybe), and it costs money to get the license. Could be hearsay, but this was from the mouth of someone that presumably had to go through that process.

Actually, that's not why. I asked a Homeland cashier about it once recently, and she said that each cashier that can ring up wine/beer in a grocery store has to be old enough *and* have some kind of license (from ABLE, maybe), and it costs money to get the license. Could be hearsay, but this was from the mouth of someone that presumably had to go through that process.

Yes - Unless something has changed recently, anyone who serves alcohol, including wait staff and cashiers, must obtain their OWN liquor license from ABLE. It's around $30.

^^^^^^
ABLE requires servers in bars and restaurants to be licensed. It’s an online application and it used to cost around $30. More of a formality, but the server AND the restaurant/bar could get into trouble if the server was unlicensed. Assuming there is now something similar for cashiers at groceries.

It’s possible that someone under 21 could not be licensed, plus some stores might decide to save money by not licensing everyone in the high-turnover cashier role and leaves it up to supervisors to card/ring liquor sales. I see this happen all of the time at the 18th and Classen Homeland.

Dang, jerrywall beat me to the post reply button

Actually we're all right. Yes you have to have an ABLE "Employees License". But you also have to be 18 to get the license. So a 17 year old cashier can't ring up beer or wine for both reasons. And yes they are $30. Which reminds me I need to renew mine.

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It’s possible that someone under 21 could not be licensed, plus some stores might decide to save money by not licensing everyone in the high-turnover cashier role and leaves it up to supervisors to card/ring liquor sales. I see this happen all of the time at the 18th and Classen Homeland.

Ha, yep, that's the location I asked about it at after this happened when a cashier that looked old enough to ring me up had to get someone.

Looks like there could be a push to allow liquor sales at grocery stores. This would be great next step: https://journalrecord.com/2022/08/24/walmart-to-push-for-liquor-sales-in-oklahoma-grocery-stores/

“ Walmart and an Oklahoma City political consultant are kicking off a campaign to legalize the sale of whiskey, gin, vodka, tequila and other spirits in grocery stores across the state, according to an association that represents Oklahoma liquor stores.

Robert Jernigan, president of the Retail Liquor Association of Oklahoma, said the national retailer has hired Pat McFerron, founding partner of CMA Strategies, to initiate a legislative lobbying campaign. The process will apparently begin in September with an organizational meeting involving alcohol wholesalers, distributors, industry lobbyists and associated services. Retail liquor store owners were not invited.

Walmart spent nearly $5 million in its push to overhaul state alcohol laws in 2016, when State Question 792 was passed, allowing wine and full-strength beer to be sold in Oklahoma grocery stores for the first time.

The retailer wanted spirits to be included in that state question, Jernigan said. But spirits did not poll well at the time, so strategists dropped them to make SQ 792 passage more likely.

Voters ultimately approved the measure by a 65.6% margin, marking the most significant modernization of Oklahoma alcohol law since state voters approved liquor by the drink in 1984. But liquor stores paid the price as consumers shifted beer and wine purchases to grocery and convenience stores.

Jernigan said liquor stores across the state saw sales drop 30% or more, forcing dozens of them to close their doors.
If Walmart is successful in this new effort, the resulting law could devastate the liquor retail industry, prompting closure of up to 500 liquor stores across the state, leaving 50 to 100 survivors. Only the largest stores with adequate financial resources could make it through, he said.

CMA’s McFerron said he was not available to comment on the effort this week, but he would be available to discuss it next week. According to its website, CMA offers grassroots advocacy services as well as campaign and government relations consulting. CMA says it is the most broad-based and capable firm in Oklahoma and that it is unrivaled in the industry.
An email was sent to Walmart’s corporate offices seeking comment on Wednesday, but no response was received before deadline.

The effort is likely to succeed, said Kathy Hallren, owner of Joe’s Wine & Spirits in Norman and former vice president of the liquor store association.

“This conservative state voted for medicinal marijuana four years ago, and it’ll probably vote for recreational marijuana. It’s the Wild West in that area,” she said. “In light of that, spirits in grocery stores will probably pass.”
“I’m not a conservative, telling people how to run their lives, but this just leaves no room for regulation,” she said.
Hallren said she’s concerned about the young people. Alcohol is one of the most common shoplifting targets, and if spirits go into grocery stores and convenience stores, they’ll be even easier for teens to steal.

“That’ll make it easier for alcohol poisoning or getting behind the wheel of a car and all the bad decisions people make when they’re young.”

Shoplifting isn’t the only concern, Jernigan said. The fake ID industry is rampant with young people purchasing fake IDs online for $100 from dealers in China, and the IDs are perfect. Even the police can’t distinguish them.
Jernigan said he has a lot of experience discerning the IDs young people hand him, but he wonders how much attention they’ll get from convenience store clerks or grocery store cashiers.

Nearly six years have gone by since voters passed SQ 792, said Jernigan, who was not surprised to see an email about Walmart’s organizational meeting.

“We knew this was coming.”

I'm all for sales in the grocery stores. It's so incredibly convenient. Visiting my sister in Louisiana, it's so nice to see the options over the holidays we don't have to go to multiple places to get stuff. Sure, it's not that big of a deal to stop at another place really, and I actually enjoy perusing through a liquor store looking at new things at times, but sometimes I just want to grab something at the grocery store while I'm there. I think it's good to have options.

I'm all for sales in the grocery stores. It's so incredibly convenient. Visiting my sister in Louisiana, it's so nice to see the options over the holidays we don't have to go to multiple places to get stuff. Sure, it's not that big of a deal to stop at another place really, and I actually enjoy perusing through a liquor store looking at new things at times, but sometimes I just want to grab something at the grocery store while I'm there. I think it's good to have options.
^ totally agree. I wonder if this would help with pricing and/or getting more allocated items into the state. My local liquor store always has a few bottles of Buffalo Trace but they sell it for $60. People will pay it since it’s somewhat hard to find around here, but it’s $27 a bottle in Denver.

^ totally agree. I wonder if this would help with pricing and/or getting more allocated items into the state. My local liquor store always has a few bottles of Buffalo Trace but they sell it for $60. People will pay it since it’s somewhat hard to find around here, but it’s $27 a bottle in Denver.

Yes exactly! Liquor is very expensive here compared to Louisiana and in Texas where I frequently visit my parents. From what I understand there's really just one liquor distributor here in Oklahoma, or maybe the region, that basically every store gets their stuff from and that's why the prices don't really vary all that much from store to store. I will usually buy my good stuff while I'm in Texas. However this past Christmas in Louisiana I was able to secure a half dozen bottles of Sazarac whiskey and several bottles of Ciroc vodka at Costco for literally a fraction of the cost per bottle I can buy here. It was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. Now now, I'm no alcoholic, but I do like a good deal. This to me would be so very welcome here at home.

Update from TW


Oklahoma liquor-law expansion contemplated

Barbara Hoberock
OKLAHOMA CITY — The possibility of allowing grocery and convenience stores to sell liquor is being floated by a lobbyist for Walmart and some other retailers who met behind closed doors in Oklahoma City on Tuesday.

In an email to stakeholders, Pat McFerron, founding partner of CMA Strategies, had asked participants what they would like to see changed about the state’s alcohol laws. He also asked what possible change would cause participants to oppose a comprehensive alcohol rewrite.

He also asked: “How willing is your principal to help underwrite an aggressive campaign to change Oklahoma’s laws?”

McFerron is a lobbyist for Walmart.

“Our customers have told us they want more choice and convenience in shopping for spirits in Oklahoma and we are interested in seeing what role we might be able to play in advocating for them on this issue,” Walmart said in a statement provided by McFerron.

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Brett Robinson, president of the Beer Distributors of Oklahoma organization, attended the meeting via Zoom. He said he was grateful that Walmart had sought input from others at this stage.

He said it was a “friendly and frank discussion among peers in the alcohol industry in Oklahoma. We heard what Walmart had to say, and we are going to continue to examine these issues very closely and see how these things unfold.”

He said some representatives from convenience stores also want to sell spirits.

Michael Junk, a lobbyist for QuikTrip, did not return a phone call seeking comment.

To change the state’s liquor laws, lawmakers could put a state question on the ballot.

If that doesn’t happen, supporters could circulate an initiative petition to get a constitutional change on the ballot.

A few years ago, voters decided through a state question to allow grocery stores to sell cold beer and wine.

The Retail Liquor Store Association of Oklahoma opposes letting grocery and convenience stores sell spirits, said Robert Jernigan, the organization’s president.

He said some 11% of the liquor stores in the state closed after the last round of alcohol-modernization laws took effect.

“I lost 30% of my wine revenue overnight when Walmart started selling wine,” he said. “I would expect to lose at least that much in spirits, which would probably do me in.”

He thinks critics would be able to defeat another modernization effort.

Dirk van Veen is vice president of the Retail Liquor Store Association of Oklahoma. He said revenue from sales would go to out-of-state companies under the proposed changes as opposed to staying in Oklahoma because more locally owned package stores would close.

- https://tulsaworld.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/oklahoma-liquor-law-expansion-contemplated/article_8fba3260-3388-11ed-ab47-4b1c6f1da169.html

I would also imagine this would open the doors for stores like BevMo and Total Wine to move into the market which would be amazing. I really hope this passes soon. It’ll be nice to be able to shop at national stores like that and buy hard liquor at convenience stores.

I'm not a drinker of alcohol or spirits since my high school and college days. A friend of mine had her face disfigured from an accident in which she was at fault; it was enough to convince me to drop alcohol altogether.

Drinking is one of those choices you make which IMO should be based on your own personal experiences, what you know you can handle. I've seen what it has done to friends, relatives and loved ones.

My mother wasn't a drinker, therefore I chose to emulate that part of her life--she set a good example for me as I've done for my children.

I've observed over time, the devastation and adversity it has done in people's lives by those who can't handle drinking; also witnessed those who drink responsibly.

Whether it puts a pep in your step on a gloomy day or it gives you that calming affect. Wish you, the best among us who make that decision.

I would also imagine this would open the doors for stores like BevMo and Total Wine to move into the market which would be amazing. I really hope this passes soon. It’ll be nice to be able to shop at national stores like that and buy hard liquor at convenience stores.

And also allow Costco to sell liquor as they do in most parts of Texas.

Their Kirkland brand of vodka and tequila are very good and exceptional values. They also carry some name brands at a good discount.


But I'm like Laramie. It's not that I don't drink at all, I've just cut way, way back. Like one beer a month type of thing.

So, I'm pretty indifferent about this proposed change.

I actually envy those people who don't drink or do so in extreme moderation. I admit I probably drink too much. But I either don't want to hurt or don't want to worry about hurting and beer is the only thing I've found that I can legally do that helps. I've tried every legal (for me) method either OTC or prescription and nothing helps. I haven't gone so far as opioids but my Dr and me are firmly against them. So I drink.

Yeah, I’m currently 24 hours sober(from alcohol) which isn’t much. I had to get down to San Clemente and out of Hollywood to get out of the influence in order to do so. I’m also using benzo’s at night to knock me out which helps eliminates the cravings for the next day, and reduces the withdrawal effects from not drinking.

I seriously need to give my body a break because my doctor said it’s not gonna be good if I don’t still with that said, I don’t want to give up drinking for good I love alcohol. I would like Oklahoma to have 24 hours sales and basically have laws similar to Nevada. I wish California what update its laws too.

And also allow Costco to sell liquor as they do in most parts of Texas.

Their Kirkland brand of vodka and tequila are very good and exceptional values. They also carry some name brands at a good discount.


But I'm like Laramie. It's not that I don't drink at all, I've just cut way, way back. Like one beer a month type of thing.

So, I'm pretty indifferent about this proposed change.
Where in Texas does Costco sell liquor?

Where in Texas does Costco sell liquor?

Don't hold me to location but there is a Costco over in East Dallas or suburb area near IKEA that sells it. It is a separate store in the front as you walk in. My understanding (once again...don't hold me to this) is that you don't need a costco card to buy there,

Exactly was going to be my point. They are all 3rd party vendors and do not sell the Kirkland brand liquors in the ones I've been in. No public held companies can sell liquor in Texas

Exactly was going to be my point. They are all 3rd party vendors and do not sell the Kirkland brand liquors in the ones I've been in. No public held companies can sell liquor in Texas

I don't recall seeing any kirkland brands either but wasn't looking for those. I thought the selection in general was poor

Where in Texas does Costco sell liquor?

I thought all Texas costcos sold liquor

I always went to the Costco liquor store off 1604 in San Antonio attached to the actual Costco

You don’t need a membership to buy liquor from the Costco liquor store

They are operated by WB liquor and wine

Texas also allows liquor sales at gas stations/convenience stores, which would also be a nice change here

^^^ In Nevada it’s 24 hour sales. I wish California and Oklahoma would allow that as well.

Texas also allows liquor sales at gas stations/convenience stores, which would also be a nice change here

Is texas still no alcohol sells after midnight and 1am on saturday?

Yeah, I’m currently 24 hours sober(from alcohol) which isn’t much. I had to get down to San Clemente and out of Hollywood to get out of the influence in order to do so. I’m also using benzo’s at night to knock me out which helps eliminates the cravings for the next day, and reduces the withdrawal effects from not drinking.

I seriously need to give my body a break because my doctor said it’s not gonna be good if I don’t still with that said, I don’t want to give up drinking for good I love alcohol. I would like Oklahoma to have 24 hours sales and basically have laws similar to Nevada. I wish California what update its laws too.

Don't sell yourself short. One day sober is still one day free from it.

Don't sell yourself short. One day sober is still one day free from it.
Thanks and I still haven’t had a drink since so I’m feeling a lot better. It’s amazing how much better you feel when you give it a break.

State of Washington pursuing biometric identification for alcohol sales: https://www.route-fifty.com/tech-data/2023/07/handprints-ids-state-liquor-board-discusses-biometrics-alcohol-sales/388186/

State of Washington pursuing biometric identification for alcohol sales: https://www.route-fifty.com/tech-data/2023/07/handprints-ids-state-liquor-board-discusses-biometrics-alcohol-sales/388186/

Nope, nope, nope, not for me, way too much danger of abuse of the info gathered.

Nope, nope, nope, not for me, way too much danger of abuse of the info gathered.

We agree on something!!!

At some point biometrics may be an inevitability but absolutely am not cool with that whole thing right now. Use a mobile ID system if you want more convivence.

I'm a little more receptive to something like CLEAR using biometrics as it primarily involves a pretty regulated part of air travel and is voluntary but even that weirds me out a bit.

We agree on something!!!

At some point biometrics may be an inevitability but absolutely am not cool with that whole thing right now. Use a mobile ID system if you want more convivence.

I'm a little more receptive to something like CLEAR using biometrics as it primarily involves a pretty regulated part of air travel and is voluntary but even that weirds me out a bit.

Ha, as long as it's not political, we probably agree on more than you'd think. I've only had to deal with biometrics once, when I was working somewhere in Seattle, I believe, and the data center had a mantrap door with a palm reader and weight scale, but that was mandatory and was way before cloud, etc. was a thing.

Nope, nope, nope, not for me, way too much danger of abuse of the info gathered.
It wouldn’t be required. Just an option.

Ha, as long as it's not political, we probably agree on more than you'd think. I've only had to deal with biometrics once, when I was working somewhere in Seattle, I believe, and the data center had a mantrap door with a palm reader and weight scale, but that was mandatory and was way before cloud, etc. was a thing.

lol true though we probably agree more politically than we both realize as well. Differences seem to get magnified and blown out of proportion online. Probably the case for most of us here.

Got a weird image in my head when I read that you had a palm reader at the door at the data center. Sounded like you had Zoltar out there for a sec lol. The cloud has definitely added a level of concern to what once wasn’t that big of deal from biometrics to photos.

It wouldn’t be required. Just an option.

Slippery slope. Option today but tomorrow?

Slippery slope. Option today but tomorrow?
Well yeah then I’d be against that.

I wouldn’t count on that being implemented there, at least not now. Although, I think the inevitable is that type of thing will happen all over within most of our lifetimes.

I wouldn’t count on that being implemented there, at least not now. Although, I think the inevitable is that type of thing will happen all over within most of our lifetimes.

biometric id for buying stuff but no id for voting .... parts of this country are truly insane ..

New law allows buckets of beer to be sold

https://www.city-sentinel.com/arts_and_entertainment/beer-buckets-now-available-in-oklahoma/article_b4aef9c6-1ced-11ee-81c2-2baafa5c5d7e.html#:~:text=Lawmakers%20in%20Oklahom a%20have%20passed,buy%20one%20bucket%20of%20beer.

Never knew there was a 2 drink limit. I know we've got pitchers of beer at Bell Isle Brewery. More than 2 drinks in a pitcher. Seems like we've got a bucket of beer somewhere before also but can't remember where.

Never knew there was a 2 drink limit. I know we've got pitchers of beer at Bell Isle Brewery. More than 2 drinks in a pitcher. Seems like we've got a bucket of beer somewhere before also but can't remember where.I played league pool for years and every bar I ever played in that sold beer by the bucket would sell individuals a bucket of beer.

Never knew there was a 2 drink limit. I know we've got pitchers of beer at Bell Isle Brewery. More than 2 drinks in a pitcher. Seems like we've got a bucket of beer somewhere before also but can't remember where.

It's one of the last legacies of the 3.2 beer era. One of the reasons changing Oklahoma's liquor laws was so difficult is because there were so many restrictions on strong beer that didn't apply to 3.2 beer, and those would need to be changed for Oklahomans to have access to strong beer everywhere that 3.2 beer had previously been available. This looks like something that was simply overlooked.