Lol. Who needs facts. We all know Tulsans are smarter, fitter, and just better.

And more humble. They'll be the first to tell you they have the best humility in Oklahoma, if not America.

I had a client in the late 70s that was an all-electric car company based at around I-40 & Meridian. They converted those small AMC coupes into electric cars. They were just too far ahead of their time.

If anyone hasn't seen the documentary, Who killed the Electric Car? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Killed_the_Electric_Car%3F), we could have had them a while ago if the car/oil and gas industries and the federal government hadn't killed it.

If anyone hasn't seen the documentary, Who killed the Electric Car? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Killed_the_Electric_Car%3F), we could have had them a while ago if the car/oil and gas industries and the federal government hadn't killed it.
In this case, that is BS. The battery technology was not yet developed enough to give enough distance or light enough weight. The fact that gas cars were Cheaper, went farther and were more developed technology doesn’t mean a big conspiracy. I swear, people ignore basic economic behavior and available technologies in favor of good conspiracy theories. Lol.

I had a client in the late 70s that was an all-electric car company based at around I-40 & Meridian. They converted those small AMC coupes into electric cars. They were just too far ahead of their time.
Unfortunately the batteries was the hold up, as all they had was a 35 - 40 mile range at the max. The other downfall was the owner was a crook and stole any outside investment money they had.

Unfortunately the batteries was the hold up, as all they had was a 35 - 40 mile range at the max. The other downfall was the owner was a crook and stole any outside investment money they had.

I don’t know about the crook part, but when all you have is R&D costs and no income, everybody’s money goes fast. That’s why when people come on here and pontificate about how a company should do this or that, they often have no clue as to the costs and risks of being a pioneer. It takes lots of money, your own and others’, with no guarantee of return.

I don’t know about the crook part, but when all you have is R&D costs and no income, everybody’s money goes fast. That’s why when people come on here and pontificate about how a company should do this or that, they often have no clue as to the costs and risks of being a pioneer. It takes lots of money, your own and others’, with no guarantee of return.

Well, JS took $10,000 from shareholder investments and rented a motorhome. Took his family on a nice trip out west.
He then moved to Arizona and went by another name. Anyway, back to topic.

Well, JS took $10,000 from shareholder investments and rented a motorhome. Took his family on a nice trip out west.
He then moved to Arizona and went by another name. Anyway, back to topic.

Can you remind me of the company name? They were out across from Sheplers on the north side of the street. They converted AMC Pacers to electric.

Can you remind me of the company name? They were out across from Sheplers on the north side of the street. They converted AMC Pacers to electric.

JMJ Electronics - They did have a little converter that would produce 110v from your car... it had some issues but did work.

Thanks. I remember now... the ElectraCar. We produced their marketing material way back then. A lifetime ago. Before Macs and Photoshop. I was still young. LOL. They may still owe me money ;)
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Not to be confused with the Electra 225, lol

We had a 59 Electra 225. Great car... very fast and BIG fins. First car we had with a padded dashboard. Made us feel really safe :)

OKC was briefly featured on last night's episode of Shark Tank (S11 E17). They were showing an update of Press Waffle Co and used footage of their opening in OKC at The Collective. The opening shot was of the Wheeler Ferris wheel with the skyline in the background, and while the focus of the blurb was the restaurant, it was still neat to see our city on TV looking beautiful.

20:40 on the band of the video link below features (2 minutes/30 seconds) on Press Waffle Company's Oklahoma City location opening.

https://abc.com/shows/shark-tank/episode-guide/season-11/17-episode-17

You may need to adjust for the link for your TV service carrier to view this episode.

Brookings study on the economic impact of COVID features OKC (and Tulsa): https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2020/03/31/when-will-your-city-feel-the-fiscal-impact-of-covid-19/

Not the happiest subject, but pretty favorable descriptions with great photos and videos of OKC:
https://apnews.com/fc3fd61524f39e9fb2962c8db22d00d8

"...
The Oklahoma City Convention and Visitors Bureau estimated the city pulled in $14.4 million from the WCWS last year. This year’s projection ranged between $23.6 million and $27 million.

Sue Hollenbeck, director of sports business for the bureau, said the Bricktown neightborhood will take the biggest hit without fans coming for the championship over the better part of a week.

“They’d eat at all the restaurants, go to the bars, get on the water taxi, do the shopping,” she said. “Anything and everything they could do, they would do when they weren’t at the stadium.”

David Southard, owner of Jazmo’z Bourbon Street Cafe, said his Bricktown restaurant with 70 employees is closed. He said the WCWS has been good for business for the past 20 years but it won’t be part of his plans to reopen this spring.

“It brings a lot of people in from all over the country,” he said. “The hotels are full. Often, we get reservations for large groups, two hours before they come, and it’s 20 people.”
... "

none of the city though.

Not okc but Tulsa gets a shout out

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/americas-biggest-cities-were-already-losing-their-allure-what-happens-next/ar-BB12RZrJ

Not sure how exactly that puts Tulsa in a positive light. If I wanted to move to another city I personally would put off at the thought of programs having to pay people to move there.

Not sure how exactly that puts Tulsa in a positive light. If I wanted to move to another city I personally would put off at the thought of programs having to pay people to move there.

Not really any different than city/state governments shelling out millions in incentives for companies to move to their city/state. They're "paying people to move there". In this case it's private money and instead of targeting companies they are targeting individuals.

Not really any different than city/state governments shelling out millions in incentives for companies to move to their city/state. They're "paying people to move there". In this case it's private money and instead of targeting companies they are targeting individuals.
It sounds different to me but then again that’s just me.

does appear to be a bit of begging people to move to/live in Tulsa, vs. typical tax incentives that are more on the back end targeting the companies.

Whatever works for them as I'm all for growth of the state overall, but I sure hope OKC doesn't go down Tulsa's route. The optics don't look too good.

Great, in the national news for OK sucking WRT coronavirus, and now OKC in the national news *twice* this weekend. First for the jail escape and now this - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/oklahom-city-thunder-tax-threat-players-kneeling_n_5f261ed5c5b6a34284bbb219

Wonder how long it'll be before we get in the news again for something positive?

Well, l doubt that much of the world reads Huffpo or even cares but BLM founder Patrice Cullors is an avowed Marxist and many BLM gatherings are organized by the Party of Socialism and Liberation.

Great, in the national news for OK sucking WRT coronavirus, and now OKC in the national news *twice* this weekend. First for the jail escape and now this - https://www.huffpost.com/entry/oklahom-city-thunder-tax-threat-players-kneeling_n_5f261ed5c5b6a34284bbb219

Wonder how long it'll be before we get in the news again for something positive?

Hmm, dude is threatening to fine people for engaging in speech he doesn’t personally agree with. This guy sounds like a true American patriot.

Seriously these people sound like spoiled children at this point. Very embarrassing for the state. These headlines are always bad for business. Sadly, most growing companies aren’t run by new earth creationists and don’t want to move jobs to states run by them. We as a state need to work to elect people who are the least likely to create these types of headlines for the state. For some reason, from the governor down, we continue to elect the ones most likely to create these self inflicted wounds.

This is why I hate when national news sites report on things like this. The guy is from podunk Hominy, OK, not from OKC. Not a dang soul in OKC thinks like this idiot, but because they don't want to do the research, the Huff Post makes it seem like OKC thinks this way, when it is pretty much some backwoods guy from Hominy saying this, and not getting any backup from anyone of influence.

OKC is far more progressive than this board gives it credit for. Rural, podunk Oklahoma? Not so much.

... Not a dang soul in OKC thinks like this idiot, ...

Wanna bet? OKC *is* more progressive than most of the rest of OK, but there are still *tons* of people in OKC and the metro area that think like him. And like it or not, OKC, as the most known of the cities here in the state and unfairly or not, does tend to get associated with crap like this idiot spews.

It does appear that MSM seeks out these idiots to further the label of OKC being ultri-conservative. OKC has had numerous progressive events lately that have been well attended (and behaved) but NOT ONE mention on nightly news or whatever while they continually show violence in other cities as progressive. I was so hopeful to see some OKC action on national news so the country/world can see OKC's mozaic and how "we" do things regarding protests - not a peep.

It is time for the MSM to give OKC another look and at least have balance. Not everyone in OKC are ultra-conservative hicks NOR ultra-liberal communists, OKC is quite moderate yet tends to avoid violence - THIS city hsould be promoted more in the media and not the constant violence and riots of other less (yet get protrayed as more) diverse cities.

Even ESPN didn't give OKC much during the OKC-UTAH game. I was thinking/hoping they'd show OKC's BLM area and perhaps some of what OKC is doing. Not a peep and I only saw ONE OKC skyline image in the 3rd qu (to be fair I missed the 1st half but they seemed consistent to just show the orlando arena at breaks - which is NOT a good sight imo).

I emailed that state representative yesterday, basically telling him he's absurd...

This is why I hate when national news sites report on things like this. The guy is from podunk Hominy, OK, not from OKC. Not a dang soul in OKC thinks like this idiot, but because they don't want to do the research, the Huff Post makes it seem like OKC thinks this way, when it is pretty much some backwoods guy from Hominy saying this, and not getting any backup from anyone of influence.

OKC is far more progressive than this board gives it credit for. Rural, podunk Oklahoma? Not so much.

Literally two posts above yours, someone from OKC is thinking like this.

Literally two posts above yours, someone from OKC is thinking like this.

Had to check and see what post that was, and turns out it's mugofbeer, who actually resides in CO (and who I have on ignore, so didn't ever see his comments until now). And BTW, mug, not sure how you define "much", but HuffPo is averaging about 3M readers...

https://www.similarweb.com/website/huffingtonpost.com/

^ I guess I didn't realize he lives in CO.

^ I guess I didn't realize he lives in CO.

He used to live here (grew up here?), but has been in CO for a while.

^ I guess I didn't realize he lives in CO.

Born, grew up, schooled and family in OK and plan to retire there. Been on here 12 years or so.

Had to check and see what post that was, and turns out it's mugofbeer, who actually resides in CO (and who I have on ignore, so didn't ever see his comments until now). And BTW, mug, not sure how you define "much", but HuffPo is averaging about 3M readers...

https://www.similarweb.com/website/huffingtonpost.com/

Maybe so but my point is few people are going to put much importance on a small article on what a state legislator from Hominy wants to do other than for a chuckle. Pubs like Huffpo search far and wide for nonsense like this.

Maybe so but my point is few people are going to put much importance on a small article on what a state legislator from Hominy wants to do other than for a chuckle. Pubs like Huffpo search far and wide for nonsense like this.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/oklahoma-lawmaker-threatens-thunder-tax-penalties-national-anthem-kneeling

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2020/08/03/oklahoma-state-rep-threatens-to-increase-thunders-taxes-for-kneeling-during-national-anthem/

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2902619-oklahoma-state-rep-threatens-thunders-tax-breaks-if-players-kneel-for-anthem

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/510215-oklahoma-city-thunder-players-kneel-during-anthem-despite

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8588699/NBAs-Thunder-kneel-protest-Oklahoma-lawmaker-threatened-hit-team-tax-penalties.html

Here’s a a fun one

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/for-petes-sake/article244682282.html

This was a pretty major news story. Looks absolutely terrible for the state.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/oklahoma-lawmaker-threatens-thunder-tax-penalties-national-anthem-kneeling

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2020/08/03/oklahoma-state-rep-threatens-to-increase-thunders-taxes-for-kneeling-during-national-anthem/

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2902619-oklahoma-state-rep-threatens-thunders-tax-breaks-if-players-kneel-for-anthem

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/510215-oklahoma-city-thunder-players-kneel-during-anthem-despite

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8588699/NBAs-Thunder-kneel-protest-Oklahoma-lawmaker-threatened-hit-team-tax-penalties.html

Here’s a a fun one

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/for-petes-sake/article244682282.html

This was a pretty major news story. Looks absolutely terrible for the state.

OK, I concede and stand corrected.

Maybe so but my point is few people are going to put much importance on a small article on what a state legislator from Hominy wants to do other than for a chuckle. Pubs like Huffpo search far and wide for nonsense like this.

And here are some more:

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/nation-world/national/article244648647.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/08/02/gop-lawmaker-threatens-tax-penalties-if-nba-players-kneel-during-national-anthem/

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/us-sport/nba/oklahoma-city-thunder-players-kneel-state-tax-benefits-nba-franchise-a9651466.html

https://kfor.com/news/local/state-rep-warns-okc-thunder-players-against-kneeling-during-national-anthem-threatens-thunder-tax-benefits/

https://thegrio.com/2020/08/02/okc-thunder-players-kneel-despite-tax-threat/

https://www.wkrg.com/news/lawmaker-warns-okc-thunder-players-against-kneeling-threatens-teams-tax-benefits/

Can anybody say, Sally Kern... :D

Can anybody say, Sally Kern... :D

I think you are legally required to spit 3 times if you utter her name.

Hmm, dude is threatening to fine people for engaging in speech he doesn’t personally agree with. This guy sounds like a true American patriot.

Seriously these people sound like spoiled children at this point. Very embarrassing for the state. These headlines are always bad for business. Sadly, most growing companies aren’t run by new earth creationists and don’t want to move jobs to states run by them. We as a state need to work to elect people who are the least likely to create these types of headlines for the state. For some reason, from the governor down, we continue to elect the ones most likely to create these self inflicted wounds.

They don't always have to be voted out. Ironically enough, Sen. Silk declined to run again because the Oklahoma Legislature is too liberal to accept his far right Christian agenda. I hope his replacement is much better for the state. With too few exceptions, rural counties in Oklahoma just don't want to keep up with a changing modern world. I think it's largely because they are much more used to accepting living life much less abundantly with fewer choices than people in big urban areas.

They don't always have to be voted out. Ironically enough, Sen. Silk declined to run again because the Oklahoma Legislature is too liberal to accept his far right Christian agenda. I hope his replacement is much better for the state. With too few exceptions, rural counties in Oklahoma just don't want to keep up with a changing modern world. I think it's largely because they are much more used to accepting living life much less abundantly with fewer choices than people in big urban areas.

Rural Okies are definitely scared of change. But then again, they are scared of almost everything.

This state legislature's comment is a perfect example of a reactionary response based on being fearful of something he doesn't understand. Rural Okies are constantly their own worst enemy.

It does appear that MSM seeks out these idiots to further the label of OKC being ultri-conservative. OKC has had numerous progressive events lately that have been well attended (and behaved) but NOT ONE mention on nightly news or whatever while they continually show violence in other cities as progressive. I was so hopeful to see some OKC action on national news so the country/world can see OKC's mozaic and how "we" do things regarding protests - not a peep.

It is time for the MSM to give OKC another look and at least have balance. Not everyone in OKC are ultra-conservative hicks NOR ultra-liberal communists, OKC is quite moderate yet tends to avoid violence - THIS city hsould be promoted more in the media and not the constant violence and riots of other less (yet get protrayed as more) diverse cities.

Even ESPN didn't give OKC much during the OKC-UTAH game. I was thinking/hoping they'd show OKC's BLM area and perhaps some of what OKC is doing. Not a peep and I only saw ONE OKC skyline image in the 3rd qu (to be fair I missed the 1st half but they seemed consistent to just show the orlando arena at breaks - which is NOT a good sight imo).

I liked Mayor Cornett, but he would repeat the trope that OKC is the "most conservative big city in the country." Not sure if that is true or not (maybe it was then), but there has been a lot of change to the city's political representation since he said that.

He also called himself conservative but was really more of a moderate.

Mayor Holt has done much to change the perception of OKC, in my opinion.

OKC definitely is not the most conservative city in the nation, but it is one of them. But I agree, the mayor of OKC shouldn't keep pushing OKC's political position like that's something to be proud of. If a city is conservative or not should be the rhelm of the people and not the leadership (top down).

Big cities are usually liberal because of the diversity of people and opinions that collect in them. This is from the Cornett era and explains more: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/08/08/chart-of-the-week-the-most-liberal-and-conservative-big-cities/?amp=1

exactly, it's the diversity of people that makes cities liberal and I'd argue OKC has often been more liberal than the rest of the state. However, OKC has been conservative due to its funding and policy mechanisms which are often decided by a very small, conservative group we often call the good ole boys.

I believe Cornett was calling OKC conservative in that the political climate had been largely Republican on the national scene, including the mayor's affiliation himself. Yet I'd argue THAT does not make OKC conservative it's how the city's run and the demographic makeup of the city; and judging by how OKC votes one can clearly see that today the city is the most liberal as ever thanks to diversity representing over 55% of its population.

exactly, it's the diversity of people that makes cities liberal and I'd argue OKC has often been more liberal than the rest of the state. However, OKC has been conservative due to its funding and policy mechanisms which are often decided by a very small, conservative group we often call the good ole boys.

I believe Cornett was calling OKC conservative in that the political climate had been largely Republican on the national scene, including the mayor's affiliation himself. Yet I'd argue THAT does not make OKC conservative it's how the city's run and the demographic makeup of the city; and judging by how OKC votes one can clearly see that today the city is the most liberal as ever thanks to diversity representing over 55% of its population.

If you’re judging by how a city voted, OKC is very conservative. No two ways about that.

Here is one example.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/republicans-democrats-cities/

Check the Oklahoma City map

Obviously OKC is going to be a more conservative city than many others given its location, but that map includes Edmond, Moore, Mustang, and Yukon on it so it's not really a fair comparison (and suburbs will tend to be more conservative than their primary city almost everywhere). OKC has also obviously annexed a ton of rural space that most other cities don't include in their city limits. If not for that, I think OKC would be a lot bluer than it is. As it is much of what is *actually* OKC on that map is white/blue sans much of suburban NW OKC.

Obviously OKC is going to be a more conservative city than many others given its location, but that map includes Edmond, Moore, Mustang, and Yukon on it so it's not really a fair comparison (and suburbs will tend to be more conservative than their primary city almost everywhere). OKC has also obviously annexed a ton of rural space that most other cities don't include in their city limits. If not for that, I think OKC would be a lot bluer than it is. As it is much of what is *actually* OKC on that map is white/blue sans much of suburban NW OKC.

You really can’t cherry pick when to use MSA population and not when it suits your narrative.

You can’t use msa when talking up population or job growth or income, but say only city proper, or as you stated “actually OKC”, should only count when discussing political party percentages.

That’s literally a form of gerrymandering.

You really can’t cherry pick when to use MSA population and not when it suits your narrative.

You can’t use msa when talking up population or job growth or income, but say only city proper, or as you stated “actually OKC”, should only count when discussing political party percentages.

That’s literally a form of gerrymandering.

I have no idea what you're talking about. The entire discussion thus far (at least back to posts #1226 and #1227) was specifically about Oklahoma City and Mayor Cornett referring to it as a conservative city. As far as I can tell you're the first and only one who introduced the notion of the politics of the entire MSA (which yeah, probably still puts it at one of the most conservative MSAs in the country), unless for some reason I should assume when people talk about "Oklahoma City" and the city's leadership they *actually* mean the entire MSA...

I have no idea what you're talking about. The entire discussion thus far (at least back to posts #1226 and #1227) was specifically about Oklahoma City and Mayor Cornett referring to it as a conservative city. As far as I can tell you're the first and only one who introduced the notion of the politics of the entire MSA (which yeah, probably still puts it at one of the most conservative MSAs in the country), unless for some reason I should assume when people talk about "Oklahoma City" and the city's leadership they *actually* mean the entire MSA...

Valid point.

I’m not sure how to break it down to within city boundaries, but another way to analyze it would be the Mayor.

Every OKC mayor the last 33 years has been a republican. That’s very telling with regards to the city and which way it leans.

Valid point.

I’m not sure how to break it down to within city boundaries, but another way to analyze it would be the Mayor.

Every OKC mayor the last 33 years has been a republican. That’s very telling with regards to the city and which way it leans.

Holt is not a republican who would have been elected 20 years ago. He is very moderate, and has some more liberal views. OKC is moving away from it's staunch conservative nature.

Also, Oklahoma has had a liberal governor more recently than Texas has. And one might have beaten Stitt if they had a decent candidate. But yes, OK is held back by the rural GOP hold. But it isn't OKC's fault, same with the big Texas cities.

Valid point.

I’m not sure how to break it down to within city boundaries, but another way to analyze it would be the Mayor.

Every OKC mayor the last 33 years has been a republican. That’s very telling with regards to the city and which way it leans.

OKC is for sure one of the most conservative MSA's in the country, but I definitely think the extremely large city limits have something to do with why the city proper has elected a Republican mayor for the past three decades.

OKC mayor is supposed to be non-partisan so I'm not sure why there's all of this talk now. Very could be that no democrat would run for mayor in OKC or have the support of the party since it's non-partisan and therefore can't really be counted among the league of dems for voting block.

Anyway, my point is exactly that you can't look at OKC's mayor party to define the city but instead at the people and how the city is run. OKC is conservative but not like what Cornett was saying IMPO. And i would define OKC's conservatism to only two facts: 1) OKC has a very high religious affiliation rate compared to other major cities and 2) OKC's nightlife is rather TAME compared to other major cities that earns the city the label "family friendly" which is also often used by mayor Cornett and the OKC print media.

It is ONLY in these two regards that I consider OKC to be conservative, otherwise, OKC is quite liberal when it comes to race and social issues, transparency, and engagement - hence why there aren't many flash points in today's world.

I think OKC could continue with the good points and still improve upon its nightlife and social amenities.

From Politico, How One of the Reddest States Became the Nation’s Hottest Weed Market (https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/11/27/toke-lahoma-cannabis-market-oklahoma-red-state-weed-legalization-437782). Great article.

Not exactly in the press but we were a question today on Jeopardy. It had to do with being able to whitewater raft without having a whitewater river.

The river's not close to white :)

Not exactly in the press but we were a question today on Jeopardy. It had to do with being able to whitewater raft without having a whitewater river.

did anybody guess "where is Oklahoma City"??

“ Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Big city amenities and a whole lot of heart in America’s heartland
City population: 655,057
Average rent for a 1-BR: $806
Despite being one of the largest cities in the US by area, OKC boasts the kind of cohesive neighborhood patchwork you’d expect of larger metropolises like Chicago or New York, each pocket enriched with distinct character. It’s apparent in the Santa Fe-like architecture and ceramics shops in the Paseo Arts District, and the drag brunches and rainbow murals lining the 39th Street Entertainment District. Stockyards City is home to centuries-old steakhouses, while Film Row brings new-school culinary flair: pair gingerbread-Nutella tarts with breakfast tacos at Stitch Cafe, or chicken-fried carrots with nori-infused amaro cocktails at The Jones Assembly.
In many ways, OKC is a small town masquerading as a big city. Gone are the staggering rents and the traffic (if it takes more than 20 minutes to drive across town, something is very wrong). As evidenced by a somber-yet-inspiring trip to the Oklahoma City National Memorial & Museum, this is a community that emerged from tragedy with a unified sense of camaraderie and care for one another—a sentiment warmly shared with newcomers from all walks of life. It’s a vibrant dot in a red state, colored by friendliness and cultural diversity that’s only growing stronger in America’s heartland. —Matt Kirouac”

https://www.thrillist.com/travel/nation/cheapest-cities-to-live-in-under-the-radar

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/16/us/police-extremists-capitol-riot.html

In Oklahoma, critics of Sheriff West said that he had for months adopted overtly political positions. That included refusing to put in effect the Oklahoma City mask mandate aimed at reducing the spread of Covid-19 and forming a civilian “posse” to maintain order at public events, which his opponents considered a paramilitary organization. The riot came a few months later.

Sheriff David Mahoney, president of the National Sheriffs’ Association, said that he passed to the F.B.I. for investigation information he had received that Sheriff West had made a celebratory telephone call from inside the Capitol.

Sheriff West did not return calls seeking comment, and three main authors of the petition supporting him also declined to speak.

Brandy Becerra, the main organizer of the petition against the sheriff, acknowledged that she has long been at loggerheads with Trump supporters in the county, including the sheriff. But she questioned his judgment in marching on the Capitol given that the goal was to intimidate lawmakers or worse.

“I think people have a right to be worried about this sheriff,” she said.

I've read lots of things about Sheriff West but I don't get the mask mandate issue. No law enforcement agency is enforcing mask waring so why hold that against any sheriff?