The fattest states in America: Mississippi is still the country's obesity capital and Colorado is the fittest as the South swells and the West slims down, study reveals.

Oklahoma needs to get healthier, exit the top 10; let Texas continue to brag & boast about being the 'biggest.' :wink: :D

As children, we use to laugh about our aunts from Texas. The heavier aunt was always toughing on her dress while the healthier aunt teased her about looking like a 'tub-in-a-bucket' (slang for looking like a tub stuck inside of a bucket). So cruel in those days it was to poke fun of fat folks.

Does these factors contribute & reflect the rising costs of health insurance?

The fattest states in America: Mississippi is still the country's obesity capital and Colorado is the fittest as the South swells and the West slims down, study reveals.

Oklahoma needs to get healthier, exit the top 10; let Texas continue to brag & boast about being the 'biggest.' :wink: :D

As children, we use to laugh about our aunts from Texas. The heavier aunt was always toughing on her dress while the healthier aunt teased her about looking like a 'tub-in-a-bucket' (slang for looking like a tub stuck inside of a bucket). So cruel in those days it was to poke fun of fat folks.

Does these factors contribute & reflect the rising costs of health insurance?

They do, but the main reason is boomers are getting older and younger people don't have health insurance at high rates. Product mix is bad

Walkability fans, have some fuel for the fire.

https://kfor.com/2019/03/11/oklahoma-city-ranked-one-of-the-deadliest-cities-for-pedestrians/

Interesting to note the vast majority (3/4 in both cases) happen outside of intersections/crosswalks, and at night. Make of that what thou wilt.

Walkability fans, have some fuel for the fire.

https://kfor.com/2019/03/11/oklahoma-city-ranked-one-of-the-deadliest-cities-for-pedestrians/

Interesting to note the vast majority (3/4 in both cases) happen outside of intersections/crosswalks, and at night. Make of that what thou wilt.

I literally have lost count of the people walking *on* a major road (Western, May, 36th, etc., not just highways), both with and facing traffic (with is far more common) that won't step up on the grass if a car is coming (yeah, I know, no sidewalks). Also, living around NW 36th/May and driving around that area quite a bit, I see way too many people wearing dark clothes at night, just walking across the street at random spots. Basically, seems like there are too many idiots out walking that have no idea how to do it properly. Does not excuse them getting hit at all, but just a small bit of common sense would probably cut the accidents down hugely.

One time that it's OK for Tulsa to be ahead of OKC. Tulsa = 7th fattest city in the USA, OKC = 12th. :(

https://wallethub.com/edu/fattest-cities-in-america/10532/

Oddly enough, searching for 2018's list doesn't appear to exist? I'll take it though.

One time that it's OK for Tulsa to be ahead of OKC. Tulsa = 7th fattest city in the USA, OKC = 12th. :(

https://wallethub.com/edu/fattest-cities-in-america/10532/

Are Tulsans eating up the profits of those 'All You Can Eat Buffet' food establishments.

The Run to Remember (Oklahoma City Memorial Marathon), increase in fitness & wellness centers, tracks on Oklahoma River, State Fair Park & Will Rogers Park, Rowing & Kayak, Riversport Rapids these are outlets where people can workout. Not sure of all the methodology, qualifications or criteria they use; however following the relocation of the Supersonics and Mayor Cornett putting the city on a diet--we became the FAT FOLKS CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.

Memphis at #3 is living high on the hog. All that sausage, BBQ pork & beef sandwiches.

Surprise to see some cities within a -tenth of OKC like Little Rock, New Orleans, Louisville, Nashville & San Antonio. Can't believe these cities have just as many TUBS-IN-A-BUCKET as OKC.

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https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/tulsaworld.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/7/86/78651948-090e-5d6c-bdbc-320f1f186d65/53f4c1186108b.image.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48CPXodFh7M&feature=youtu.be

Are Tulsans eating up the profits of those 'All You Can Eat Buffet' food establishments.

The Run to Remember (Oklahoma City Memorial Marathon), increase in fitness & wellness centers, tracks on Oklahoma River, State Fair Park & Will Rogers Park, Rowing & Kayak, Riversport Rapids these are outlets where people can workout. Not sure of all the methodology, qualifications or criteria they use; however following the relocation of the Supersonics and Mayor Cornett putting the city on a diet--we became the FAT FOLKS CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.

Memphis at #3 is living high on the hog. All that sausage, BBQ pork & beef sandwiches.

Surprise to see some cities within a -tenth of OKC like Little Rock, New Orleans, Louisville, Nashville & San Antonio. Can't believe these cities have just as many TUBS-IN-A-BUCKET as OKC.

Surprised about them? NO has cajun (not healthy) food, Nashville has hot chicken (also not healthy). Louisville (KFC/Yum Brands). San Antonio has BBQ and Mexican. All seem perfectly reasonable as to why they would be high up there with OKC.

https://kgou.drupal.publicbroadcasting.net/post/oklahoma-continues-bleeding-college-graduates?fbclid=IwAR0z5Ad--xnYLN2KyCeH8jxj7j_VFgrAQTg-Kp75MUPtKWRlrbtxDttx2JI

https://kgou.drupal.publicbroadcasting.net/post/oklahoma-continues-bleeding-college-graduates?fbclid=IwAR0z5Ad--xnYLN2KyCeH8jxj7j_VFgrAQTg-Kp75MUPtKWRlrbtxDttx2JI

"It has to do with the job opportunities here relative to other places. It’s not just total job availability, but the kinds of jobs relative to the skills people have.”

This hits the nail on the head. We're going to have to diversify from oil, warehouse, and service jobs. And while we can expand on our impressive biotech and aeronautics industries, we need more general tech jobs that don't require micro-specialization and therefore are more flexible.

This is also indicative of the continued decline of rural Oklahoma (and rural America), with most people in the western part of the state leaving for better opportunity.

Oklahoma exodus

https://journalrecord.com/2019/04/09/report-points-to-an-oklahoma-exodus/

People may disagree with my comments and will likely result in some saying I am always negative and must be banned, but, they reflect my honest views and really come from a place of frustration over many years of hearing the negative comments of people about the place I was born and love. It's not JUST about jobs (although I think this is primary) but low educational atttainment (college graduates), inept State government that focuses on things (Guns, Abortion, Marijuana) that in and of themselves are great issues but do little to spur high paying Job growth and expansion. States across the nation announce new large plants being built or tech centers etc. Where is Oklahoma? OKC C of C tells us of all the great things people are saying abou the city but I ask myself why then aren't those accolades translating to people desiring to take up residence in the city? Oklahoma, a ruby red limited government state that relies heavily on government spending and employment. Amazon is OK, but almost every State has one or more of these facilities (it fits their distribution model). Poor health care, subpar infrastructure, racial intolerance. What really is there for a College Educated person to aspire to in Oklahoma? Oil and Gas? Tinker continues to lament the inablility to attract sufficient engineers to fill the jobs. What are OU and OSU doing to educate MORE software, electronic, mechanical engineers? and truth is where would they work in those technical fields in Oklahoma? Oklahomas leadership (Governor and State Legislature) has been horrid. The Republican Party runs Oklahoma however across many objective measures the State continues to rank in the bottom 1/3. Why don't those living there demand more of elected officials? Why won't they try the Democrats? They couldn't do much worse (Oh, I forgot they are socialists). Many of the people who comment on this board live elsewhere, they will say for a variety of reasons but, how many of us would move back from wherever we live? truth is my Hoosier wife would leave me first.

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Save you guys a click.

Top 10! Haha https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6358873/Mississippi-fattest-state-America-year-row.html
And the the top 10 fattest states voted for Trump...

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Save you guys a click.

I’m pretty sure by now most assume unless it’s an editorial they will be needing a sub to view JR articles. But thanks I guess for the screenshot.

At the risk of being mislead by a clickbait title, the article shows there is many people leaving the state. This kind of news is good or bad depending on how you look at it. I see it as bad that it is happening and a good thing it is being reported on to get people in denial that it is happening aware it really is which may lead to something being done about it.

There is no reason for this to be happening in Oklahoma, a state with some of the most natural resources. Oklahoma is also a very geographically diverse state with rich culture and history of people would take the time to learn which could be helped with the state showcasing it more.

Unfortunately, and this is in no way shape or form directed at you, but it exhausting to vocalize the slightest ounce of criticism as it seems every time you do you get the old Oklahoma mantra “you don’t like then leave.” Or I’m just told I don’t like Oklahoma or I should mind my own business because I live in LA. All three of those are weak arguments indicative of someone who doesn’t have sound argument to come back at mine with. Alas, if I had a nickel every time I was told that maybe I could find education in Oklahoma to proper levels.

People may disagree with my comments and will likely result in some saying I am always negative and must be banned, but, they reflect my honest views and really come from a place of frustration over many years of hearing the negative comments of people about the place I was born and love. It's not JUST about jobs (although I think this is primary) but low educational atttainment (college graduates), inept State government that focuses on things (Guns, Abortion, Marijuana) that in and of themselves are great issues but do little to spur high paying Job growth and expansion. States across the nation announce new large plants being built or tech centers etc. Where is Oklahoma? OKC C of C tells us of all the great things people are saying abou the city but I ask myself why then aren't those accolades translating to people desiring to take up residence in the city? Oklahoma, a ruby red limited government state that relies heavily on government spending and employment. Amazon is OK, but almost every State has one or more of these facilities (it fits their distribution model). Poor health care, subpar infrastructure, racial intolerance. What really is there for a College Educated person to aspire to in Oklahoma? Oil and Gas? Tinker continues to lament the inablility to attract sufficient engineers to fill the jobs. What are OU and OSU doing to educate MORE software, electronic, mechanical engineers? and truth is where would they work in those technical fields in Oklahoma? Oklahomas leadership (Governor and State Legislature) has been horrid. The Republican Party runs Oklahoma however across many objective measures the State continues to rank in the bottom 1/3. Why don't those living there demand more of elected officials? Why won't they try the Democrats? They couldn't do much worse (Oh, I forgot they are socialists). Many of the people who comment on this board live elsewhere, they will say for a variety of reasons but, how many of us would move back from wherever we live? truth is my Hoosier wife would leave me first.


i would guess that the huge majority of the negative coments you hear about oklahoma are from poeple that have never been here ...

as for TInker not sure what you are talking about .. the federal postings are always filled very very quickly

People may disagree with my comments and will likely result in some saying I am always negative and must be banned, but, they reflect my honest views and really come from a place of frustration over many years of hearing the negative comments of people about the place I was born and love. It's not JUST about jobs (although I think this is primary) but low educational atttainment (college graduates), inept State government that focuses on things (Guns, Abortion, Marijuana) that in and of themselves are great issues but do little to spur high paying Job growth and expansion. States across the nation announce new large plants being built or tech centers etc. Where is Oklahoma? OKC C of C tells us of all the great things people are saying abou the city but I ask myself why then aren't those accolades translating to people desiring to take up residence in the city? Oklahoma, a ruby red limited government state that relies heavily on government spending and employment. Amazon is OK, but almost every State has one or more of these facilities (it fits their distribution model). Poor health care, subpar infrastructure, racial intolerance. What really is there for a College Educated person to aspire to in Oklahoma? Oil and Gas? Tinker continues to lament the inablility to attract sufficient engineers to fill the jobs. What are OU and OSU doing to educate MORE software, electronic, mechanical engineers? and truth is where would they work in those technical fields in Oklahoma? Oklahomas leadership (Governor and State Legislature) has been horrid. The Republican Party runs Oklahoma however across many objective measures the State continues to rank in the bottom 1/3. Why don't those living there demand more of elected officials? Why won't they try the Democrats? They couldn't do much worse (Oh, I forgot they are socialists). Many of the people who comment on this board live elsewhere, they will say for a variety of reasons but, how many of us would move back from wherever we live? truth is my Hoosier wife would leave me first.

I agree with a few of your points. But the Tinker one, not so much. They are CONSTANTLY posting new jobs there. And they wouldn't do that if they weren't able to fill the ones they already have open.

Now with regards to tech jobs, I agree, OK needs to do better. They always tout all these manufacturing jobs. Makes it seem like they don't even try to recruit companies for white-collar jobs or IT jobs. Kind of blows me away how OK can't get one of the 100's of Bay Area companies fleeing there and heading east to HQ. I doubt they even try. Maybe Pete knows of some possible companies looking to expand or locate here, but until we get some new companies in here, people will keep flocking south to DFW.

People may disagree with my comments and will likely result in some saying I am always negative and must be banned, but, they reflect my honest views and really come from a place of frustration over many years of hearing the negative comments of people about the place I was born and love. It's not JUST about jobs (although I think this is primary) but low educational atttainment (college graduates), inept State government that focuses on things (Guns, Abortion, Marijuana) that in and of themselves are great issues but do little to spur high paying Job growth and expansion. States across the nation announce new large plants being built or tech centers etc. Where is Oklahoma? OKC C of C tells us of all the great things people are saying abou the city but I ask myself why then aren't those accolades translating to people desiring to take up residence in the city? Oklahoma, a ruby red limited government state that relies heavily on government spending and employment. Amazon is OK, but almost every State has one or more of these facilities (it fits their distribution model). Poor health care, subpar infrastructure, racial intolerance. What really is there for a College Educated person to aspire to in Oklahoma? Oil and Gas? Tinker continues to lament the inablility to attract sufficient engineers to fill the jobs. What are OU and OSU doing to educate MORE software, electronic, mechanical engineers? and truth is where would they work in those technical fields in Oklahoma? Oklahomas leadership (Governor and State Legislature) has been horrid. The Republican Party runs Oklahoma however across many objective measures the State continues to rank in the bottom 1/3. Why don't those living there demand more of elected officials? Why won't they try the Democrats? They couldn't do much worse (Oh, I forgot they are socialists). Many of the people who comment on this board live elsewhere, they will say for a variety of reasons but, how many of us would move back from wherever we live? truth is my Hoosier wife would leave me first.

dc, I don't think it's so much what you say it is just that when given an opportunity to write something negative on this site, you pounce on it with the vigor of a Sooner Fan pouncing on the Longhorns in Dallas. I doubt there are many people who move in or out of a place due to the level of education or politics unless they are on the extreme other end of the spectrum but move because of job opportunities - pure and simple. Oil and Gas has been down and OK is a non-diversified O & G state. That is a problem that needs great improvement.

As for some of your other issues, such as Tinker having a problem getting engineers or the infrastructure, that sounds more like opinion rather than fact. What part of the infrastructure are you referring to? The interstates are pretty nicely paved from border to border - a great improvement over 6-8 years ago. Secondary highways can always see improvement but are decent compared to other states. Yes, there are segments that are far overdue for repair and replacement. Large city highway systems in OKC and Tulsa are superior (in the case of some cities, far superior) to most cities and just need fixes here and there to better handle peak times.

Education? Sure, probably the #1 problem and needs a ton of improvement. It does seem there are steps being taken there but it's going to be baby steps.

As far as posters on here who have never lived in OK or OKC - Who? I think any of us who post frequently either live in OK or have in our past or, like me, have lived here but visit frequently.

My opinion is that most of you who are in OKC and complain the most don't know how good you have it. There are unique, local problems living anywhere so the grass isn't necessarily greener. And yes, if all you can do is say negative things about a place, there is a point when it goes beyond just constructive criticism and just becomes complaining, whining and destruction.

dc, I don't think it's so much what you say it is just that when given an opportunity to write something negative on this site, you pounce on it with the vigor of a Sooner Fan pouncing on the Longhorns in Dallas. I doubt there are many people who move in or out of a place due to the level of education or politics unless they are on the extreme other end of the spectrum but move because of job opportunities - pure and simple. Oil and Gas has been down and OK is a non-diversified O & G state. That is a problem that needs great improvement.

As for some of your other issues, such as Tinker having a problem getting engineers or the infrastructure, that sounds more like opinion rather than fact. What part of the infrastructure are you referring to? The interstates are pretty nicely paved from border to border - a great improvement over 6-8 years ago. Secondary highways can always see improvement but are decent compared to other states. Yes, there are segments that are far overdue for repair and replacement. Large city highway systems in OKC and Tulsa are superior (in the case of some cities, far superior) to most cities and just need fixes here and there to better handle peak times.

Education? Sure, probably the #1 problem and needs a ton of improvement. It does seem there are steps being taken there but it's going to be baby steps.

As far as posters on here who have never lived in OK or OKC - Who? I think any of us who post frequently either live in OK or have in our past or, like me, have lived here but visit frequently.

My opinion is that most of you who are in OKC and complain the most don't know how good you have it. There are unique, local problems living anywhere so the grass isn't necessarily greener. And yes, if all you can do is say negative things about a place, there is a point when it goes beyond just constructive criticism and just becomes complaining, whining and destruction.

Good points. Out of curiosity - and for context - what city do you live in and compare and contrast with Oklahoma City? Do you have a family and did that play a role in your now being out-of-state?
I appreciate your posts mugofbeer. I always read someone who is conservative, but not a flame thrower and debate in a way that reminds me of times I remember without the highly charged and inflammatory rhetoric, that we’ve always had, but not as everyday rhetoric thrown back and forth.

Thank you. I am making an effort to not be as inflammatory (which I have been guilty of, and with the exception of one troll poster) because of the rhetoric being thrown around the country (and also on here). People are being personally attacked not for supporting the current President but for just being more conservative than an increasingly hostile left. When elderly people are being physically attacked for just wearing MAGA hats, as has been the case here in Denver, people just need to calm down.

I moved back to OKC briefly in 2009 but moved back to Denver due to work. I have many family members there so I am in town roughly monthly.

Thank you. I am making an effort to not be as inflammatory (which I have been guilty of, and with the exception of one troll poster) because of the rhetoric being thrown around the country (and also on here). People are being personally attacked not for supporting the current President but for just being more conservative than an increasingly hostile left. When elderly people are being physically attacked for just wearing MAGA hats, as has been the case here in Denver, people just need to calm down.

I moved back to OKC briefly in 2009 but moved back to Denver due to work. I have many family members there so I am in town roughly monthly.

And you are failing spectacularly. Right wing terrorists killed fifty people in the US in 2018. The "increasingly hostile left"? Zero. Stop getting your news from facebook memes.

Thing is, Oklahoma City is much more liberal & diverse than the rest of the state. Yes people move out, but we still have people move in. But you have to remember at the beginning of the decade Oklahoma City metro area had a boom in population & now it has gone stagnant. You can't gauge the vitality of the state/city on just data from a few years. It would be interesting to see the new population data when the official census is done next year, so we can see the growth over a ten year period.

I’m pretty sure by now most assume unless it’s an editorial they will be needing a sub to view JR articles. But thanks I guess for the screenshot.

At the risk of being mislead by a clickbait title, the article shows there is many people leaving the state. This kind of news is good or bad depending on how you look at it. I see it as bad that it is happening and a good thing it is being reported on to get people in denial that it is happening aware it really is which may lead to something being done about it.

There is no reason for this to be happening in Oklahoma, a state with some of the most natural resources. Oklahoma is also a very geographically diverse state with rich culture and history of people would take the time to learn which could be helped with the state showcasing it more.

Unfortunately, and this is in no way shape or form directed at you, but it exhausting to vocalize the slightest ounce of criticism as it seems every time you do you get the old Oklahoma mantra “you don’t like then leave.” Or I’m just told I don’t like Oklahoma or I should mind my own business because I live in LA. All three of those are weak arguments indicative of someone who doesn’t have sound argument to come back at mine with. Alas, if I had a nickel every time I was told that maybe I could find education in Oklahoma to proper levels.


I didn't care one way or the other about people leaving.

I initially thought, "Oh hey, a source is given here. I am going to go check it out. Oh, paywall."
Perhaps I am in the minority who didn't know that JR articles required a sub, in addition to being in the minority that I don't have multiple subscriptions for the news.

If indeed I am in the minority, and it turns out I didn't give anybody a heads up that it required a sub than I'm wrong and will correct my comments in the future accordingly. My initial impression was, "Oklahoma Exodus, don't believe me? Go read about it here. Can't read it? Pay the sub fee to read this one article"

I didn't care one way or the other about people leaving.

I initially thought, "Oh hey, a source is given here. I am going to go check it out. Oh, paywall."
Perhaps I am in the minority who didn't know that JR articles required a sub, in addition to being in the minority that I don't have multiple subscriptions for the news.

If indeed I am in the minority, and it turns out I didn't give anybody a heads up that it required a sub than I'm wrong and will correct my comments in the future accordingly. My initial impression was, "Oklahoma Exodus, don't believe me? Go read about it here. Can't read it? Pay the sub fee to read this one article"
I typed “Oklahoma Exodus” to give people an idea of what the article is about as opposed to posting a link with no other context.

And you are failing spectacularly. Right wing terrorists killed fifty people in the US in 2018. The "increasingly hostile left"? Zero. Stop getting your news from facebook memes.

Aaaaaand you are exactly why it's a hard thing to accomplish. While you make a good point on the right wingnuts, the incredibly common physical attacks, not on politicians but on everyday people who simply support conservative issues are fact. Maybe you should venture away from left wing sites and see what actual news isn't being reported - you know, broaden your mind with a well-rounded, fully-informed viewpont. The tone of your answer proves my point. Oh, and l don't use Facebook, Mr. checkthat.

And you are failing spectacularly. Right wing terrorists killed fifty people in the US in 2018. The "increasingly hostile left"? Zero. Stop getting your news from facebook memes.

Provide a Link or its false.

Oh, he's right on murders. I'm just talking about strangers simply accosting strangers because of their political views. Even 70+ year olds aren't off limits. This political hostility is getting out of hand but even the tone of his post is another example.

It's amazing that someone who claims to not watch Fox News or use facebook is always 100% in line with the right wing talking points du jour. Did the shouty man on the radio melt your brain? Genuinely curious.

Mr. mugofbeer, go back and read some of the rants you have posted on this website. Then, print some out and take them to a therapist. Maybe they can help?

Mr. OKC Guy, it's no 8chan link, but it will have to do:

https://www.adl.org/murder-and-extremism-2018

http://amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/apr/3/oklahoma-officials-to-highlight-route-66-in-touris/?__twitter_impression=true It looks like the state is going to start putting more emphasis on tourism. It's about time. Oklahoma could be a tourism mecca if marketed correctly. Not only would it be good for the economy, but it would incentivize some people to move here

It's amazing that someone who claims to not watch Fox News or use facebook is always 100% in line with the right wing talking points du jour. Did the shouty man on the radio melt your brain? Genuinely curious.

Mr. mugofbeer, go back and read some of the rants you have posted on this website. Then, print some out and take them to a therapist. Maybe they can help?

Mr. OKC Guy, it's no 8chan link, but it will have to do:

https://www.adl.org/murder-and-extremism-2018

It's called having a set of political beliefs which may or may not agree with the current administration. I'm far from being conservative across the board. I don't get my beliefs from the news and I take the information from whatever source with a grain of salt to determine the slant it's coming from. Maybe you should try the same or by stepping away from the usual leftist blogs and read some sources you may not agree with to find out other news your blogs don't discuss.

I never said I don't watch FoxNews but it's just another source along with the rest of the MSM, Newsy, Smartnews, Al Jazzera, BBC and many others. You've made lots of general accusations but as is so common, when you can't make a specific argument, just go after someone personally call names and make ignorant assertions.

As far as I know, I've never discussed anything with you on here, met you personally and have no idea who you are just as you have no idea who I am so you have no idea what I do, what I believe, who I know, etc. You've just decided to jump in and prove exactly, yet again, what I have said. The left simply can't be civil anymore. And no, yet again, I don't listen to AM radio. Try again. Find another boogeyman.

Or are you of the same ilk as this? Should have seen the original version they printed.:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2019/04/10/oneil/t0wEh4yEXHTzBttu77AGWK/story.html

And by the way, we are off topic so if you find the need to cast more aspersions on me, move it elsewhere. I'm done with you here.

Surprised about them? NO has cajun (not healthy) food, Nashville has hot chicken (also not healthy). Louisville (KFC/Yum Brands). San Antonio has BBQ and Mexican. All seem perfectly reasonable as to why they would be high up there with OKC.

Tex-mex, not Mexican. Although, there are traditional Mexican restaurants in SA, what SA is known for and what people usually eat when they’re here is regional Tex mex. Traditional Mexican food, found in Mexico, is nothing like Tex mex.

And yes, lots of amazing bbq down here too.

https://www.opensignal.com/blog/2019/05/31/state-of-mobile-usa-quantifying-the-bar-for-5g-to-beat

"Cleveland (33.8 Mbps) and Minneapolis (32.2 Mbps) offered users the fastest Download Speed Experience across the fifty largest cities. Speeds in the leading cities were almost twice as fast as bottom-placed Oklahoma City."

^not the press we want to hear!

Not sure how much any of this is OKC's fault.

Not sure how much any of this is OKC's fault.

It's less of a fault thing than just a reality thing, imo. This is a quality of life issue nowadays, and it can affect how attractive OKC is for businesses and residents.

It's less of a fault thing than just a reality thing, imo. This is a quality of life issue nowadays, and it can affect how attractive OKC is for businesses and residents.

meh. most of us are in wi-fi networks 90% of the day anyway.

but speaking of fast cell service, I was in one of the nicer parts of Tulsa last week, and, to my great pleasure, discovered that they have 5GE from AT&T. I was getting easily 55-60 Mbps, which was a nice surprise.

meh. most of us are in wi-fi networks 90% of the day anyway.

but speaking of fast cell service, I was in one of the nicer parts of Tulsa last week, and, to my great pleasure, discovered that they have 5GE from AT&T. I was getting easily 55-60 Mbps, which was a nice surprise.

We had it here, and AT&T pulled it (I think because of Sprint suing them), so surprised you saw it in Tulsa. 5GE is still just 4G, with a fancy label on it.

I still would like more than just Cox or AT&T as providers in my neighborhood...

I still would like more than just Cox or AT&T as providers in my neighborhood...

OEC Fiber is getting closer every day in Norman. Can't wait for some competition to Cox in our area.

I still would like more than just Cox or AT&T as providers in my neighborhood...

So would I, although I am curious how many communities the size of OKC have more than two options.

I'd also love to see municipal wifi in Edmond.

So would I, although I am curious how many communities the size of OKC have more than two options.

I'd also love to see municipal wifi in Edmond.

Where is xFinity, or Fios, or Suddenlink, and why is OEC so far south. I just don't understand why cable/internet/utility companies are allowed to operate as monopolies or oligarchies in this state.

Not sure how much any of this is OKC's fault.

we can find out what other cities are doing to be ahead, and perhaps do that? In all seriousness, OKC doesn't want to constantly be on these lists in last place. It does reflect with those who may chose to relocate be they business or residents. I seriously hope we don't just adopt a "oh-well, nothing we can do about it" moniker - otherwise we should have never done all of this maps and investment and just let OKC die back in the mid-1990s ala Detroit.

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there is a positive to that story however, sometimes being last helps you to become first! Thanks to AT&T.

from the same article

AT&T's 5G launch cities is much broader than its competitors, with cities with a weak mobile network experience like Oklahoma City, Austin, Houston, Charlotte and New Orleans being among the first cities to receive 5G services from AT&T.

see, isn't that better? as long as we don't just sit on the bottom of these lists and do nothing OKC will continue to improve. Next time they run that survey OKC wont be on the bottom. ....

Where is xFinity, or Fios, or Suddenlink, and why is OEC so far south. I just don't understand why cable/internet/utility companies are allowed to operate as monopolies or oligarchies in this state.

XFinity is Comcast's current branding, but Oklahoma City is Cox territory and they do not overlap. FIOS is Verizon's FTH offering, basically the same thing as AT&T's Uverse service. They also don't overlap and Oklahoma is in AT&T's service area as a LEC. Suddenlink is a mostly small city/rural cable company and is not an overbuilder. They do not offer service in areas where larger providers like Cox and Comcast provide service.

None of this is unique to Oklahoma. Nearly all the US has a single cableco offering and single telco offering and that's it for high speed internet.

Where is xFinity, or Fios, or Suddenlink, and why is OEC so far south. I just don't understand why cable/internet/utility companies are allowed to operate as monopolies or oligarchies in this state.

It is rare they do not operate as local monopolies or duopolies in the entire country, and if it were not for cable and telephone originally using such unique infrastructure then there would likely not even be a second option in most places. Though ATT/Verizion at least have the excuse the basically were the same company while much of their fixed line service regions were deployed and were later broken up (and mostly remerged into either of the two).

Comcast is the single overriding vendor in the Denver area though others are available such as CenturyLink. In my suburb of Denver, the city is having Ting Fiber Optic lines installed into the neighborhoods and should be available in a few months which should pretty much eliminate XFINITY's stranglehold.

With the 5G rollout, a year from now none of this list will make much difference (as the article itself says). Cox is in trouble as they are stuck with cable for internet delivery to the home. Real 5G will mean our top providers in the home will be the same for our mobile. Huge disruption coming and I’m not sure Cox and a few of the other minor players will survive.

With the 5G rollout, a year from now none of this list will make much difference (as the article itself says). Cox is in trouble as they are stuck with cable for internet delivery to the home. Real 5G will mean our top providers in the home will be the same for our mobile. Huge disruption coming and I’m not sure Cox and a few of the other minor players will survive.

this is a massive overstatement ..

With the 5G rollout, a year from now none of this list will make much difference (as the article itself says). Cox is in trouble as they are stuck with cable for internet delivery to the home. Real 5G will mean our top providers in the home will be the same for our mobile. Huge disruption coming and I’m not sure Cox and a few of the other minor players will survive.

It remains to be seen how much 5G will disrupt things. The 5G rollout will take time and money for starters and you can bet they will make customers eat the costs with expensive data plans and caps. I would argue that a lot of customers would love to dump Cox now if it wasn't for data cap limitations and expensive cell phone bills.

If they increase the flowrate of my pipe, but still only give me x amount of data before throttling me down, 5G does nothing for me except for making me more happy, but only for one quarter to one half of the month.

It remains to be seen how much 5G will disrupt things. The 5G rollout will take time and money for starters and you can bet they will make customers eat the costs with expensive data plans and caps. I would argue that a lot of customers would love to dump Cox now if it wasn't for data cap limitations and expensive cell phone bills.

If they increase the flowrate of my pipe, but still only give me x amount of data before throttling me down, 5G does nothing for me except for making me more happy, but only for one quarter to one half of the month.

this is well said ..

also true 5g speeds are still several years away ..

this is well said ..

also true 5g speeds are still several years away ..

More BS (Boulder Sooner) one-line pronouncements that are almost never correct. It’s all opinion - all the time, but stated as fact by BS.

Facts —
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/5g-release-date,review-5063.html
https://www.pcmag.com/news/368728/t-mobiles-pre-launch-5g-network-results-are-encouraging
https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/3/18647432/sprint-5g-network-impressions-speed-tests-t-mobile-merger-verizon

Good UK perspective — https://www.pocket-lint.com/phones/news/128938-what-is-5g-when-is-it-coming-and-why-do-we-need-it

But... the Tom’s Guide story by Caitlin McGary (who I know is a good reporter) basically says that 5g will be available on phones costing more than $1000 in 15-20 cities in the next year, year and a half.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/area-51-raid-animal-shelter_n_5d3354e3e4b0419fd32dab13

That is hilarious. I love the tin foil hats.

Fantastic reason to make the news

Great article about Scissortail Park: https://www.citylab.com/design/2019/10/scissortail-park-design-oklahoma-city-maps-tax/599701/

Best city in North America to do business!

https://product.costar.com/home/news/shared/2116409908?

Best city in North America to do business!

https://product.costar.com/home/news/shared/2116409908?

That’s a bit misleading. The article states “easiest city to do business in for medium to small sized businesses.”

Thanks for the much-needed clarification, Josh.

https://kfor.com/2019/10/24/oklahoma-city-residents-among-the-happiest-in-the-nation-with-where-they-live/