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Pete
08-17-2011, 10:21 AM
Here are some screen captures from that great Skyline Ink animation. You can tell these are somewhat recent because the large metal shade structure between the Tower and Braniff reflects recent design changes.

But the structure shown east of the Tower is only depicted at 10 levels (building in background of third image). More than anything, it shows possible design ideas for a taller building.


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/sandridgesky1.jpg

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/sandridgesky4.jpg

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/sandridgesky5.jpg

Patrick
08-18-2011, 09:24 PM
Oh, come on guys. Take a little sarcasm and comedy to heart. I was joking that the new Sandridge Tower will probably look like the AT&T building. :)

dankrutka
08-18-2011, 11:10 PM
Oh, come on guys. Take a little sarcasm and comedy to heart. I was joking that the new Sandridge Tower will probably look like the AT&T building. :)

It just wasn't that funny. Sorry.

Patrick
08-20-2011, 03:12 AM
It just wasn't that funny. Sorry.

That's because you have no sense of humor.

warreng88
08-20-2011, 10:45 AM
That's because you have no sense of humor.

And boom goes the dynamite...

dmoor82
08-20-2011, 12:21 PM
And boom goes the dynamite...

it is what it is!

UnFrSaKn
09-16-2011, 07:48 PM
SandRidge Energy unveils new logo (http://newsok.com/sandridge-energy-unveils-new-logo/article/3604818)

SandRidge Energy unveiled a new logo Friday as it celebrated its fifth anniversary with a companywide meeting of its employees.

BY STEVE LACKMEYER
Published: September 17, 2011

SandRidge Energy unveiled a new logo Friday as it celebrated its fifth anniversary with a companywide meeting of its employees.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/UnFrSaKn/SandRidgeEnergylogo.jpg

UnFrSaKn
09-16-2011, 07:52 PM
SandRidge looks at employing 2,000 downtown within five years as headquarters expansion continues (http://newsok.com/sandridge-looks-at-employing-2000-downtown-within-five-years-as-headquarters-expansion-continues/article/3604820)

As SandRidge Energy celebrates its fifth anniversary, Chief Executive Officer Tom Ward is looking ahead at growth that will include a tripling of the downtown workforce and construction of a building equal in size to the 29-story SandRidge Building.

BY STEVE LACKMEYER
Published: September 17, 2011

SandRidge Energy Inc. Chief Executive Officer Tom Ward is looking ahead at growth that will include a tripling of the downtown workforce and construction of a building equal in size to the 29-story SandRidge Building.

dmoor82
09-16-2011, 08:03 PM
^^Well,does that mean equal in height or just equal in square footage?EDIT-never mind I just read the whole article!

mcca7596
09-16-2011, 08:21 PM
Well, it all sounds good on the oil front downtown. In the big picture, however, I'm concerned about downtown not having diverse industries represented.

PhiAlpha
09-16-2011, 08:28 PM
Thats a pretty pessimistic statement for such a positive announcement. There is literally nothing negative about this but some how you put a negative spin on it. An energy company expanding into its own space does nothing to hurt the diversity of downtown and he referenced article has nothing to do with reduced diversity.

MDot
09-16-2011, 09:04 PM
So they're gonna demolish all of the old petroleum club building and it's garage and build the glass building that's already been rendered? (I think it has a basketball court on the top floor if I'm not mistaken)

G.Walker
09-16-2011, 09:05 PM
Nice...rumors no more...it's official....now we can just wait for renderings of the new tower...

mcca7596
09-16-2011, 09:08 PM
Thats a pretty pessimistic statement for such a positive announcement. There is literally nothing negative about this but some how you put a negative spin on it. An energy company expanding into its own space does nothing to hurt the diversity of downtown and he referenced article has nothing to do with reduced diversity.
I didn't say anything about the Sandridge campus having to do with a lack of business diversity. It is great news about Sandridge! It just makes me think of how much of downtown's renaissance is based in energy production and the ancillary support businesses. You read too much into my simple statement.

OSUMom
09-16-2011, 10:13 PM
So they're gonna demolish all of the old petroleum club building and it's garage and build the glass building that's already been rendered? (I think it has a basketball court on the top floor if I'm not mistaken)


They have started on the garage. For the past week or so now they have been welding inside the garage, I guess removing all the steel from the old car elevators. Maybe because it is worth recycling or something?

MDot
09-16-2011, 10:55 PM
They have started on the garage. For the past week or so now they have been welding inside the garage, I guess removing all the steel from the old car elevators. Maybe because it is worth recycling or something?

Really? I'm a little surprised they've already started demolition. How long should it take them to demolish both?

gracefor24
09-16-2011, 11:03 PM
So much for the whole "If Sandridge is still in business..." junk in this thread. Can you imagine the momentum with Sandridge AND Continental both growing their workforces downtown along with Devon? Unbelievable.

gracefor24
09-16-2011, 11:09 PM
I think this thread deserves a bump based on recent news. Some funny stuff in this thread as well. :)

plmccordj
09-16-2011, 11:24 PM
What was the recent news?

Never mind... I just read the other thread.

plmccordj
09-16-2011, 11:33 PM
The article's title is deceiving. It says the building will be as tall as their current 29 story building but if you read the article all the way through it says the building will not be as tall as the current building. Either way, it is good to see more development.

Never mind... after re-reading it, I was wrong.

SkyWestOKC
09-17-2011, 12:21 AM
Can't wait to see the renderings. Article does mention shorter than the current building, but comparable in size (square footage I assume).

Any timeframe on construction?

KayneMo
09-17-2011, 01:58 AM
I think it would be neat if a tower identical to SandRidge Center was built. I know it would be a not-so-modern look, but there's something about the current tower that really intrigues me. But that's just me. :redface:

UnFrSaKn
09-17-2011, 04:33 AM
I'm still not confident that if I choose to document the construction process of this building, I won't have some dude in a SandRidge polo shirt and bluetooth headset follow me around and telling me I can't record what they're doing.

earlywinegareth
09-17-2011, 07:15 AM
Good news for downtown! Sorta makes all the Sandridge haters look silly now...actually they looked silly then but especially now.

Will be interesting to see what the architects come up with. The current trend is all-glass, but it needs to complement the current tower and its neighbors.

Maybe something like this: http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2009/10/one_hawthorne_close_to_being_closed_in_but_without _its.html

wschnitt
09-17-2011, 10:54 AM
From newsok.com does "...facing Broadway between Robert S. Kerr and Dean A. McGee Avenues" mean it will be where the Chase Bank is right now?

OSUMom
09-17-2011, 11:30 AM
So, are they planning on taking all the tiles out of Couch park and have it grassy?

UnFrSaKn
09-17-2011, 11:45 AM
It's next to SandRidge HQ. Between the tower and Broadway.

Patrick
09-17-2011, 12:04 PM
From my understanding, the building will be equal in square footage to the tower, but will spread from Robt. S. Kerr to Dean McGee, and will be estimated to be around 10-15 stories tall. Will be roughly the same depth as the current building and parking garage there, only taller.

And yes, they plan on pulling all of the tiles in Kerr Park and making it more level, grassy, with some walkways.

Patrick
09-17-2011, 12:09 PM
From newsok.com does "...facing Broadway between Robert S. Kerr and Dean A. McGee Avenues" mean it will be where the Chase Bank is right now?

No, directly east of the tower, in place of where the Sandridge parking garage and conference center now sits. West of the city-owned, but soon to be Sandridge owned taller parking garage.

dmoor82
09-17-2011, 12:42 PM
Talked to my neighbor again and asked him for the hundredth time if there are still rummors of that "monster" tower floating around in his construction circle,and he said yes it is talked about even more at the moment and his higher ups told him to be on stand by right after Devon is done!Now,take it for what it's worth,it's just a rumor!

UnFrSaKn
09-17-2011, 01:51 PM
When you walk away, listen for chuckling.

MDot
09-17-2011, 01:54 PM
Talked to my neighbor again and asked him for the hundredth time if there are still rummors of that "monster" tower floating around in his construction circle,and he said yes it is talked about even more at the moment and his higher ups told him to be on stand by right after Devon is done!Now,take it for what it's worth,it's just a rumor!

Dude, you have me freakin bouncing with thoughts! Hope this proves to be true.

MDot
09-17-2011, 01:59 PM
When you walk away, listen for chuckling.

Probably right. Lol

kevinpate
09-17-2011, 02:27 PM
I previously noted in one thread or another I'd be as happy or happier with three 300 foot towers as one 900 foot tower.
This sounds close enough for happy horseshoes, so two more to go.

dmoor82
09-17-2011, 02:43 PM
When you walk away, listen for chuckling.

Everything else this guy has told me came out to be true!He told me what the final crane height would be 5 months prior and he told me about the resturant months before anyone knew,both turned out to be correct!

Steve
09-17-2011, 02:57 PM
Talked to my neighbor again and asked him for the hundredth time if there are still rummors of that "monster" tower floating around in his construction circle,and he said yes it is talked about even more at the moment and his higher ups told him to be on stand by right after Devon is done!Now,take it for what it's worth,it's just a rumor!

I seriously doubt there will be another tower built that will be as high or higher than Devon. But are we looking at more mid- to high-rises? Yep. Been saying it for a while, and I'm not backing away from it.

Patrick
09-17-2011, 03:10 PM
Talked to my neighbor again and asked him for the hundredth time if there are still rummors of that "monster" tower floating around in his construction circle,and he said yes it is talked about even more at the moment and his higher ups told him to be on stand by right after Devon is done!Now,take it for what it's worth,it's just a rumor!

A friend of mine, who just happens the be the person I bought my house from, and who also happens to be the adopted son of Tom Ward (look my house up on county assessor and look at the previous owner if you don't believe me!!), says the tower could be as high as 20 stories, but will likely be more in the range of 10-15, since it's being built on such a large footprint.

dmoor82
09-17-2011, 03:25 PM
A friend of mine, who just happens the be the person I bought my house from, and who also happens to be the adopted son of Tom Ward (look my house up on county assessor and look at the previous owner if you don't believe me!!), says the tower could be as high as 20 stories, but will likely be more in the range of 10-15, since it's being built on such a large footprint.

well,I never said my source told me that Sandridge was building a "monster"tower,but if that was what he was hinting at,I think your info is more reliable!

Steve
09-17-2011, 03:38 PM
Actually, and this is just pure speculation, but your neighbor may be referring to a hoped-for conference hotel, which I suspect will be taller than the new SandRidge tower.

Patrick
09-17-2011, 03:47 PM
And I don't know if I'd really call the new Sandridge building being proposed a "tower." Since it will have such a large footprint, it likely won't be a tower, in the sense of the current Sandridge tower, which is more narrow and tall.

Steve
09-17-2011, 03:57 PM
I suspect it will be taller than 15 stories.

Patrick
09-17-2011, 04:01 PM
Maybe so.....he likened it to Dowell Center, which I guess is something like 18-20 stories.

OKCDrummer77
09-17-2011, 05:05 PM
Dowell Center is 20 stories (the top 2 are smaller than the others). As for this new tower, a building of that height with that large a footprint sounds like it will create a nice streetwall if they push it out to Broadway.

plmccordj
09-17-2011, 05:28 PM
Everyone keeps talking about this LARGE footprint. As I look at that lot, I am not seeing the room for much of a footprint at all. Heck, if you put the current building right up against it's East wall and it would go all the way to the street. Are people speculating that the building will be long and narrow to the North and South? That is the only way I can see a large footprint on that small area where that garage sits. If I am seeing this incorrectly, can you clarify?

Patrick
09-17-2011, 05:47 PM
Take a look at the picture, and look to the right (east)of the tower. That property is about the same width as the tower, but the new building could be extended further north and south. That's what makes it a larger footprint. The building will be about the same size as the parking garage in foot print, only taller. The garage has a lot larger footprint than the tower. The tower only takes up about 50% of the lot between Robert S. Kerr and Dean McGee. The new tower could essentially be just as wide as the tower, yet stretch further north and south and take up nearly 100% of the lot in that direction.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/sandridge41311.jpg

Patrick
09-17-2011, 06:02 PM
This is what they have in mind, only maybe a little taller:

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt111/Requiemokc/Untitled-1-1.jpg

mcca7596
09-17-2011, 06:37 PM
I hope it can be like the Braniff building and have some retail space. If the Carnegie project ever does happen, it would sure be nice for some of the workers of Sandridge to be right across the street.

wschnitt
09-17-2011, 07:13 PM
This is what they have in mind, only maybe a little taller:

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt111/Requiemokc/Untitled-1-1.jpg


Sandridge is planning to build on those two large parcels on Broadway?

Doug Loudenback
09-17-2011, 07:41 PM
Good news for downtown! Sorta makes all the Sandridge haters look silly now...actually they looked silly then but especially now.

Will be interesting to see what the architects come up with. The current trend is all-glass, but it needs to complement the current tower and its neighbors.

Maybe something like this: http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2009/10/one_hawthorne_close_to_being_closed_in_but_without _its.html
Disagree completely about the looking silly part. Very legitimate procedural and substantive issues were involved in that phase of SandRidge's then-proposal. Very solid positions existed that SandRidge got a Kings-X in that process ... rules were probably, at least arguably, not followed that would normally apply to other projects and a thorough investigation of whether historic structures were, indeed, unsalvageable (mainly the India Temple Building and the OKC S&L) was not done (largely thwarted by SandRidge since it refused to permit objective experts to have a close inspection of the affected properties).

It may be, earlywinegareth, that you regard such matters as petty and inconsequential, and, if you do, that is your privilege. But it is not the only point of view, regardless of how you might be inclined to trivialize the matters which have been thoroughly discussed here by those who see matters differently.

Regardless, just because SandRidge may/will construct a substantial new building not specifically included in its original proposal hasn't got anything at all to do with whether its proposal before the DDRC and then the Board of Adjustment (footnote: the one BOA member who voted against SandRidge's position was not reappointed by the mayor, which has customarily been done). Just because a project's sponsor, in this case SandRidge, was heavy-handed in the earlier process and whose position was bolstered by big corporate interests in the city, and that SandRidge now says that it may/will build a new structure downtown does not mean that what it, and its allies, did during the proposal phase is mystically transformed into an automatic high-five, "What we did was OK."

That said, what's done is done and, except for public educational purposes as to future proposals, no point exists in beating a dead horse, especially when no political will exists to do things differently as happened in this piece of Oklahoma City's history. Perhaps political will may change in the future, but it's not there now.

So, for now, I earnestly hope that SandRidge will use its victory to enhance downtown and the city in positive ways, whether that means to perform on that which it previously said that it would do (for which it is not obligated to do) or to make additional projects like that being discussed here and in the accompanying thread (http://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=26290).

On edit: Just because serious-minded people might think along the lines that I do (and have expressed) regarding the procedure of how SandRidge got its original proposal adopted, or about the value of historical preservation, does not make us "SandRidge haters," at least not me. I'm for any business, large or small, doing good things for downtown, even if I'm not inclined to give a blind eye about how things get done and/or what might get destroyed in the process.

mcca7596
09-17-2011, 08:01 PM
They own those parcels and they will be parking garages most likely.

Doug Loudenback
09-17-2011, 08:15 PM
I seriously doubt there will be another tower built that will be as high or higher than Devon. But are we looking at more mid- to high-rises? Yep. Been saying it for a while, and I'm not backing away from it.
You've got a backbone of steel. :tiphat:

Just the facts
09-17-2011, 08:27 PM
Good news for downtown! Sorta makes all the Sandridge haters look silly now...actually they looked silly then but especially now.

How do you figure? Sandridge ended up doing exactly what us urbanist wanted them to do all along - and that is keep downtown urban. You can't blame us if Sandridge kept that secret from everyone. If they said they were going replace India Temple with another building I would have helped haul away the debris. If anything, the people who were content with a suburban toga park are the ones who look silly.

Steve
09-17-2011, 08:30 PM
I'm pretty convinced there are people within SandRidge who have a lot of regret over how things were handled. Note the executive who was the key player in the controversial hearings is no longer with the company.

Doug Loudenback
09-17-2011, 08:35 PM
That's good to hear, Steve, and I hope that it's so. I don't recall who that key player was and in the middle of OU game (with OSU to follow) I don't want to look up who you are referring to. Maybe you or someone else will save me the trouble by naming the name so that I can keep one eye on the TV and another on this forum.

Doug Loudenback
09-17-2011, 09:19 PM
Well, it's 9:17 pm and I see that you are on-line, Steve, so I guess I'll have to spend my own precious time looking up the name that you could have named so simply. Oh, wait, back to the game ... not good, Landry intercepted. At least, it's on the Nole's 20 or so ... whoops ...

On edit: Oh, well, it doesn't really matter, does it. By the same token, neither may the remark about unnamed people in, "within SandRidge who have a lot of regret over how things were handled."

Do-de-doddle-do-de-doddle, etc.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y&feature=player_detailpage

We've just crossed over into the "no-name zone."

But, the bottom line is: it just doesn't matter.

wschnitt
09-17-2011, 09:40 PM
They own those parcels and they will be parking garages most likely.

Not ideal, but better than nothing.

wschnitt
09-17-2011, 09:40 PM
That would do a lot for foot traffic forcing the Sand Ridge people to walk those few blocks.

wschnitt
09-17-2011, 09:41 PM
What about the spot north of TAP architecture?

mcca7596
09-17-2011, 10:36 PM
Good question, that would be a very small parking garage indeed. IDK.

Steve
09-17-2011, 10:40 PM
Doug, simply because this shows I'm "online" doesn't mean I'm actually on OKC Talk. Sometimes I just leave it up. As for the "no names," yeah, that was intended. If you want me to share insight as to what's going on, this is sometimes the best I can do. Subpoena me if you don't like it!

(this is where I would post some stupid smile face or something to indicate there is no hostility intended with this response)