When is there not a fight over development in Edmond. It’s a couple of hotels along the interstate, what’s the problem with it?

Beyond the fact it’s development they don’t like the site plan. The hotels are going to face north and therefore the parking lots will be facing south and fox lake lane. They want the developer to flip it and build a new road so the neighborhood road isn’t the in and out for the hotels.

Stop me if you’ve heard this before but it’s dead. Like 100% dead.

https://twitter.com/eriechtapia/status/978447003930767360?s=20

Edmond will never become a luxurious and vibrant suburb like big city suburbs are if it keeps saying no to everything. I would like to have seen a little more detailed plans than what they gave and I wasn’t too excited on their “promise” for a nice park, but the city council members seem to just be focused on the fact that “this is too much for the area” not that they wanted a better quality development. There were a few things that irked me about this development but the reasons given by the council members just make me shake my head.

Personally, I'm glad it's dead. Didn't really care for it and living nearby and knowing people that live in that specific neighborhood I completely understood their concerns. I do think that land will be developed commercially at some point but the current configuration was bothersome. I also don't think it's demise is going to impact Edmond's pursuit of being "luxurious and vibrant." While I am still still holding out hope for a really good full service restaurant to open in that area, I do patronize many of the businesses there (Thai Delight, Great Clips, Sam's, Walmart, Chick-Fil-A, On Cue) and I did go in and open new accounts at the credit union that opened up there this week. They are giving new customer $150 for opening up an account and they have great partner discounts for Sprint customers too!

Yes, because that is just what I said. If these hotels aren't built Edmond won't be a luxurious and vibrant community. Don't worry, Edmond wasn't ever going to be that anyways and these hotels wouldn't have changed that.

Yes, because that is just what I said. If these hotels aren't built Edmond won't be a luxurious and vibrant community. Don't worry, Edmond wasn't ever going to be that anyways and these hotels wouldn't have changed that.

Works for me kiddo.

Stop me if you’ve heard this before but it’s dead. Like 100% dead.

https://twitter.com/eriechtapia/status/978447003930767360?s=20

One of the comments from a council member said something that 35 is an economic generator for Edmond but then voted this down. That doesnt make much sense.



Personally, I'm glad it's dead. Didn't really care for it and living nearby and knowing people that live in that specific neighborhood I completely understood their concerns. I do think that land will be developed commercially at some point but the current configuration was bothersome. I also don't think it's demise is going to impact Edmond's pursuit of being "luxurious and vibrant." While I am still still holding out hope for a really good full service restaurant to open in that area, I do patronize many of the businesses there (Thai Delight, Great Clips, Sam's, Walmart, Chick-Fil-A, On Cue) and I did go in and open new accounts at the credit union that opened up there this week. They are giving new customer $150 for opening up an account and they have great partner discounts for Sprint customers too!

At some point though, these nos will have an effect. I guess I'd say they already are. Edmond is and will stay a good suburb but they are limiting themselves on how nice Edmond can be because of denying economic expansion and revenues. No to $100M shopping center and housing, no to two hotels adjacent to an interstate, no so far on more housing and retail at Covell, no to a grocery store. These things do have an effect and will push developers away.

One of the comments from a council member said something that 35 is an economic generator for Edmond but then voted this down. That doesnt make much sense.




At some point though, these nos will have an effect. I guess I'd say they already are. Edmond is and will stay a good suburb but they are limiting themselves on how nice Edmond can be because of denying economic expansion and revenues. No to $100M shopping center and housing, no to two hotels adjacent to an interstate, no so far on more housing and retail at Covell, no to a grocery store. These things do have an effect and will push developers away.

He didn’t want two hotels, one would have been fine. (At least in theory).

What’s the 100 million dollar investment they killed? Spring creek plaza? Cause that’s going to get built, the developer and leader of the nimbys are pretty close to an agreement

He didn’t want two hotels, one would have been fine. (At least in theory).

What’s the 100 million dollar investment they killed? Spring creek plaza? Cause that’s going to get built, the developer and leader of the nimbys are pretty close to an agreement

And whats the reason for one hotel being good but two is too much? Hotels are clustered everywhere throughout the city and country, especially along interstates. I just dont get it. Would be hilarious to see owners put in an RV park, which would require no approval. Edmond hands out TIF money for a convention hotel and then tells others that they arent welcome.

The Spring Creek expansion is dead and gone.

I AM EMPEROR ZOLAXTRON LEADER OF THE NIMBYs

And whats the reason for one hotel being good but two is too much? Hotels are clustered everywhere throughout the city and country, especially along interstates. I just dont get it. Would be hilarious to see owners put in an RV park, which would require no approval. Edmond hands out TIF money for a convention hotel and then tells others that they arent welcome.

The Spring Creek expansion is dead and gone.

I dk, hence the “(in theory)” it’s super easy to say I would have supported one but since the plan is for two now I’m opposed. He wants to have it both ways.

Also, false. http://m.newsok.com/article/5571425/developers-bring-back-plans-for-edmond-movie-complex

Yes, because that is just what I said. If these hotels aren't built Edmond won't be a luxurious and vibrant community. Don't worry, Edmond wasn't ever going to be that anyways and these hotels wouldn't have changed that.

So, in your opinion, Edmond is screwed with or without the hotels? Hmmmm.

I dk, hence the “(in theory)” it’s super easy to say I would have supported one but since the plan is for two now I’m opposed. He wants to have it both ways.

Also, false. http://m.newsok.com/article/5571425/developers-bring-back-plans-for-edmond-movie-complex

Not false, its dead. They have no theater deal and have given up on doing anything here.

Works for me kiddo.

Good for you but high density projects like these are good for the city. They maximize land use and bring more tax dollars to the city. What you are probably going to get now on that lot is a cookie cutter(though the proposed hotels were cookie cutter too) strip mall which you might like but I find quite annoying because Edmond has too many of them. Regardless, as I said. I wasn’t the biggest fan of this proposal but the city shot it down simply because they thought it was too much for the area.

But 3 miles north where the existing infrastructure doesn’t even have four lane roads to connect with other arterials yet aside from I-35 which is already experiencing high traffic volumes and will need to be widened soon, they decided it was smart to build a larger hotel complex with tons of shops and restaurants planned. It makes no sense.

So, in your opinion, Edmond is screwed with or without the hotels? Hmmmm.
Go back and read what I said. I was being facetious in that reply.

He didn’t want two hotels, one would have been fine. (At least in theory).

What’s the 100 million dollar investment they killed? Spring creek plaza? Cause that’s going to get built, the developer and leader of the nimbys are pretty close to an agreementThey've already scaled down parts of the development. The apartments aren’t getting built as planned which would have completely changed the vibe for the better. The “west end” shopping center by Pelican bay is now just a bland strip mall. If the developer and NIMBYS are close to an agreement, that isn’t necessarily a good thing.

And whats the reason for one hotel being good but two is too much? Hotels are clustered everywhere throughout the city and country, especially along interstates. I just dont get it. Would be hilarious to see owners put in an RV park, which would require no approval. Edmond hands out TIF money for a convention hotel and then tells others that they arent welcome.

The Spring Creek expansion is dead and gone.I think the expansion is still happening but it isn’t going to be anything like what was originally planned. At least from what I gather from their revised submissions to the council which now include phases. The first is for the west end by Pelican Bay and it’s essentially a strip mall with a sh!t ton of parking. Earlier plans called for less parking and more dense retail in a more urban fashion to be connected to a trail leading to the main development via a new car bridge over the creek.

FYI - The Walmart SuperCenter at Shoppes at Fox Lake has just opened a Sonic fast-food restaurant inside the north entrance.

It's been a couple of other restaurants in the past and none lasted long.

Probably a better fit for that location than a McDonald's, like you see in other SuperCenters.

I'll most likely patronize it if their phone app specials apply there since I shop there often.