There's currently only one retail shop in the work-live spaces, and that’s Thrown Design and Wine. There is also a a legal office, a realtor office, a chiropractor, a bookkeeping business, a counselor, and Wheeler’s real estate office and their construction office.

I had hoped there would be more retail/coffee/eateries in the spaces, something to bring people in and liven it up, but it turns out that’s quite difficult for a number of reasons, including that the spaces aren’t really conducive for it, given how narrow they are. I’m hoping they build more of these, but apply some new techniques/strategies that can attract retail, though we all know how difficult retail is even with great spaces.

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my understanding is that no one is living and working. All the owners either bought to work and lease out the live or bought to live and lease out to work. correct me if wrong tho.

I had hoped there would be more retail/coffee/eateries in the spaces, something to bring people in and liven it up, but it turns out that’s quite difficult for a number of reasons, including that the spaces aren’t really conducive for it, given how narrow they are. I’m hoping they build more of these, but apply some new techniques/strategies that can attract retail, though we all know how difficult retail is even with great spaces.

And don't forget the Number 1 complaint on social media..... WHERE ARE WE SUPPOSED TO PARK???

I currently live in Tulsa... love following along with this project. Jealous, there's nothing really like it built up here.

Curious about the work/live locations... can anyone give some insight on what business (if any) are open in these? The houses are very nice, but the shops are the coolest thing IMO by far. Reminds me of Bob's Burgers :)
I thought a developer in Tulsa was planning something like this north of downtown?

And don't forget the Number 1 complaint on social media..... WHERE ARE WE SUPPOSED TO PARK???

Yeah, and anyone who has been to Wheeler knows there is plenty of room to park. The neighborhood has hosted events that draw hundreds of people and there’s never an issue with parking. Those people complaining are probably the type of people least likely to ever visit a neighborhood like Wheeler, regardless of the parking situation.

I thought a developer in Tulsa was planning something like this north of downtown?

You may be thinking of the vacant TDA/UCAT land north of downtown. They are currently developing a master plan for that area that will include mixed-use development that will be similar to the Wheeler District. It would be great to see Grant Humphreys develop his first Tulsa project here.

There is also a similar development planned for NW Tulsa about 2 miles from downtown. It has run into some issues with getting the charter school off the ground and extending city sewer lines. I think it’s still a couple years out from breaking ground but will be very cool if built as planned.

https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/education/state-board-issues-final-rejection-to-proposed-new-charter-school-in-tulsa/article_19d96d0a-240a-53c6-8036-3a6214af4c2d.amp.html

That’s a good deal. Hopefully with the new infrastructure package they can tunnel I-244 and make that development even more attractive. It would indeed be a good spot for Humphrey to pull off the development. Tunneling I-244 would be a good project for Kaiser to help become a reality. All of the ingredients are there just need the will.

There's currently only one retail shop in the work-live spaces, and that’s Thrown Design and Wine. There is also a a legal office, a realtor office, a chiropractor, a bookkeeping business, a counselor, and Wheeler’s real estate office and their construction office.

I had hoped there would be more retail/coffee/eateries in the spaces, something to bring people in and liven it up, but it turns out that’s quite difficult for a number of reasons, including that the spaces aren’t really conducive for it, given how narrow they are. I’m hoping they build more of these, but apply some new techniques/strategies that can attract retail, though we all know how difficult retail is even with great spaces.

Cafe Disco is doing pretty well, I believe, and they've got a super-narrow/small space in an off-the-beaten-path location (although the area is picking up now).

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Work on the community pool has started! The pool and park is located on the west side of the property so it cannot be seen in this picture.

I noticed they have started work on Taco Nation in the Terminal Commons building.

The sign on the door says that Taco Nation will open on March 1st. There was a big party in there on Saturday night so I imagine they are doing a minimal remodel.

Any idea what's going to be done with the old hangar right along western? Part of me would like to see it refurbished and repurposed, but another part of me would like to see it knocked over.

My understanding is it's presently just being used for storage.

All their plans show that hanger being repurposed down the line.

It could be something really cool.

That question was asked at our HOA Meeting in November. Blair Humphreys indicated that as the building sits their team can not find a that it is economically feasible to repurpose the building. He is open to any ideas but he has had people much more experienced than he is try to figure out what to do with the building that would not cost a ton of money. It is the main view from my porch and I would love to see something happen just to make it less of an eyesore.

I mean, like was done with that building on the corner of 36/Penn that was just a metal building, it could maybe be bricked at least so that it's more attractive?

Werent the planes painted in there? I'm sure there's toxic paint leftover. Probably would cost a lot to get rid of it.

Clarity Coffee posted on social media they will be opening a 2nd location in the barrel-shaped office building at Wheeler.

Clarity will be located in the northeast corner of that building:

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IMO seems like they've got more under construction at one time than before. Great Pics!

They are still selling homes as fast as they can build them.

I love the density.

Went to an open house today and this is the view from the 3rd floor:
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I am curious how the residents of the Wheeler District would deal with a major snowfall (6"+ of snow)?

I am curious how the residents of the Wheeler District would deal with a major snowfall (6"+ of snow)?

??? Can virtually guarantee they have snow removal contracted out to a private company, similar to a lot of other businesses, neighborhoods, and subdivisions in the Metro.

I am curious how the residents of the Wheeler District would deal with a major snowfall (6"+ of snow)?

Versus being a resident of any other neighborhood? Curious what you mean...

I am curious how the residents of the Wheeler District would deal with a major snowfall (6"+ of snow)?

Probably a very intense snowball fight

I am curious how the residents of the Wheeler District would deal with a major snowfall (6"+ of snow)?

We tear every house down for supplies, move south, and return to rebuild at the first thaw.

Versus being a resident of any other neighborhood? Curious what you mean...

Due to the density of the housing, slender alleys for garage access and very little vacant green space, I think it would be challenging for a snow removal service to snow plow and not have available space for huge piles of snow.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall lawn care being part of the HOA agreement, so no one has to mow their own lawns there, if I'm correct. In that scenario it seems like there'd be unified snow removal effort as well.

Due to the density of the housing, slender alleys for garage access and very little vacant green space, I think it would be challenging for a snow removal service to snow plow and not have available space for huge piles of snow.

Like every other place on earth where humans must contend with snowfall, when that happens in Wheeler, we shovel the snow that's in our way to a location where it's not in our way. There's plenty of room to do it.


Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall lawn care being part of the HOA agreement, so no one has to mow their own lawns there, if I'm correct. In that scenario it seems like there'd be unified snow removal effort as well.

Lawn care is an optional service one can elect to receive through the HOA (via Modern Environment) at a relatively low cost.

Like every other place on earth where humans must contend with snowfall, when that happens in Wheeler, we shovel the snow that's in our way to a location where it's not in our way. There's plenty of room to do it.



Lawn care is an optional service one can elect to receive through the HOA (via Modern Environment) at a relatively low cost.

Right. What do people think folks in NYC, Boston, etc. do when it snows (and usually a lot more than we get)? lol. Not that I ever even see the large majority of Oklahomans bothering to shovel...

My mom has gotten a $75 ticket from the City of Philadelphia for not clearing her sidewalk within 6 hours. Normally she does. But she had just had a double knee replacement and couldn't walk.

I think there's technically a clearing requirement here at like 24 hours, but I suspect rarely enforced.

Due to the density of the housing, slender alleys for garage access and very little vacant green space, I think it would be challenging for a snow removal service to snow plow and not have available space for huge piles of snow.

That can easily be overcome with a front end loader and dump trucks.

My mom has gotten a $75 ticket from the City of Philadelphia for not clearing her sidewalk within 6 hours. Normally she does. But she had just had a double knee replacement and couldn't walk.

I think there's technically a clearing requirement here at like 24 hours, but I suspect rarely enforced.
Probably not enforced as much as OKC is not as "walkable". This could change with the advent of such neighborhoods.

In Colorado Springs (and pretty much all incorporated areas of Colorado) it is the property owner's responsibility to shovel snow from all public sidewalks on the property within 24-hours of the end of a snowstorm. It is also (technically) against the law to place the snow in public ROW (meaning snow should be shoveled onto your lawn or another area off of the sidewalk, not including the city street, utility grates, or in the vicinity of fire hydrants). 6 hours seems especially harsh, but in a high foot traffic area, 6 hours may be reasonable enough.

Taco Nation opens Tuesday, March 1st.

Winter hours: Tues-Thurs: 5-8pm; Fri & Sat: 5-9pm.

Photo from their Instagram page:

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Menu looks delish! Hopefully they'll add beer and margs later on.

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Very cool as always to see this thing grow. I'm not sure what the critical mass is for some more shops/ a bodega sort of place is. Would take this to the next level in my opinion.

Love the light-colored metal roofing. I am sure summer cooling in these is significantly more efficient than the standard dark asphalt shingles that are seen in the majority of the state.

A suggestion might have been to use solar panels for the south facing roof sections.

If you haven't checked out the bike races on Tuesday's night, it is quite the scene. The whole neighborhood is packed.

"They" (assuming Wheeler District LLC, the owners of the parcel) have recently cleared the area on the south bank of the river between S Western Ave and S Walker Ave where some unhoused persons were living. They also cut down/uprooted a bunch of trees. Someone was actively operating a backhoe in the area yesterday. These are plots R092441075 and R092440570.

The Wheeler District owns everything outlined in red.

That wooded area just west of the inlet has scores of tents and trash; or it did when I went through there about a month ago.

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Am I the only one where who remembers when that flat open area was a golf driving range?

The Wheeler District owns everything outlined in red.

That wooded area just west of the inlet has scores of tents and trash; or it did when I went through there about a month ago.

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That tongue of trees extending west-northwest of the main wooded area is gone as of yesterday. There may have been one large cottonwood left but that was it. And the equipment was starting to move further east into the main wooded area, it appeared. The tents are gone. I noticed some trash was still present, mainly a big pile of old tires.

It would be nice to see them preserve that wooded area and turn it into a park.

https://www.visitokc.com/event/bikefest-2022/20651/

Bike Fest at Wheeler Park this Sunday.

Rode the trails, and the wooded area with a homeless camp is being leveled.

any idea what their plans for this area is? im guessing an extension for wheeler of course but isn't it somewhat early for that considering they haven't reached capacity at the western plot?

^^^^^^
If you look at the original master plan document that area is definitely targeted for future phases of similar/related development, but that is likely still years away.

I’d guess the encampment/tree clearing was possibly not related to or even coordinated by the development but was instead connected to a public agency, possibly the county’s SHINE program. The way the tree clearing was described upthread - combined with the property lines shown in Pete’s graphic - suggests that the work might have been limited to property outside of the boundary, which would be publicly-owned.

For the record I haven’t discussed this with anyone at Wheeler; it’s purely speculation on my part.

I’d guess the encampment/tree clearing was possibly not related to or even coordinated by the development but was instead connected to a public agency, possibly the county’s SHINE program. The way the tree clearing was described upthread - combined with the property lines shown in Pete’s graphic - suggests that the work might have been limited to property outside of the boundary, which would be publicly-owned.

For the record I haven’t discussed this with anyone at Wheeler; it’s purely speculation on my part.

I had the same thought, but the cleared area is actually within both the Wheeler District LLC property and County property, at least per the County Assessor's maps (and Pete's graphic upthread). Of course, the lines shown on the county website are certainty not official, and would also imply that a substantial part of that section of river trail is actually private property, which I'm sure is not the case. I wondered if the County Assessor's website is wrong and the closest section of land (R092440570) to the river is actually publicly-owned and not owned by Wheeler District LLC, in which case the cleared area would definitely be on public land. That section of land was deeded to Wheeler District LLC by the City of Oklahoma City back in 2017. I only vaguely remember hearing something about that at the time.

When I went by it was a single guy in a backhoe doing the clearing. Looked like he had driven in in a red pickup truck that had a logo on the side but it was too far away for me to see what company or entity it was from.

In any event, I completely agree that this current tree clearing work is likely not related to any imminent Wheeler District development.

It will take Wheeler a decade to build out the area west of Western and I seriously doubt they would start on this area until that is largely complete.

If it had been me I would built up the waterfront along the full length of their properties in the first or at least second phase....

Am I the only one where who remembers when that flat open area was a golf driving range?

It was a 9 hole Par 3 golf course. May have had a driving range too. I worked at AT&T with the guy that owned it in the late 70s early 80s and I would occasionally fix the lawn mowers he used to keep it mowed.

The Wheeler District owns everything outlined in red.

That wooded area just west of the inlet has scores of tents and trash; or it did when I went through there about a month ago.

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Any grove of trees is endangered in this city.

I suspect that this homeless camp was getting out of control and causing issues for both the bike path and the sports fields to the south.

When I was recently down there on foot, it was pretty shocking and tons of trash was blowing into the river.