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Let me break it down...
A tax increment finance district, also known as a TIF, allows a city, town or county to use tax money generated by a new development to pay for public improvements in the development area.
TIF's establish a base year and then take ALL incremental new property tax (and sometimes sales tax) from that point forward.
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The huge majority of the funds are used for PRIVATE development, not public.
Part or all of the increase in property taxes resulting from new development after a district is formed is invested back into the area for a term usually set at 25 years. The project budgets usually include allocations for local schools, libraries, the county and the city-county health department.
MOST of the TIF funds are used for private development and SOMETIMES money goes back to schools, libraries, county and city-county health department, but those are the taxing jurisdictions from which the TIF dollars are redirected in the first place. In any event, at most they receive back a small fraction of what is taken away.
HangryHippo 12-13-2016, 08:28 AM Let me break it down...
A tax increment finance district, also known as a TIF, allows a city, town or county to use tax money generated by a new development to pay for public improvements in the development area.
TIF's establish a base year and then take ALL incremental new property tax (and sometimes sales tax) from that point forward.
- and -
The huge majority of the funds are used for PRIVATE development, not public.
Part or all of the increase in property taxes resulting from new development after a district is formed is invested back into the area for a term usually set at 25 years. The project budgets usually include allocations for local schools, libraries, the county and the city-county health department.
MOST of the TIF funds are used for private development and SOMETIMES money goes back to schools, libraries, county and city-county health department, but those are the taxing jurisdictions from which the TIF dollars are redirected in the first place. In any event, at most they receive back a small fraction of what is taken away.
Thanks for the reply. That's quite the difference.
Thanks for the reply. That's quite the difference.
It's not just a difference, it's blatantly misleading and completely incorrect.
And they keep using this as the default definition in almost every article on TIF.
Pretty important since we are talking about $1 billion in local tax dollars being largely being redirected from schools and given largely to private developers.
onthestrip 12-13-2016, 10:36 AM $60 million in TIF money for the development of Wheeler? Thats insane! Are they getting every bit of road and utilities paid for by the taxpayers?
sooner88 12-13-2016, 11:13 AM $60 million in TIF money for the development of Wheeler? Thats insane! Are they getting every bit of road and utilities paid for by the taxpayers?
The TIF district would include a budget allocation of $120mm with $60mm for development financing for infrastructure improvements.
onthestrip 12-13-2016, 11:40 AM The TIF district would include a budget allocation of $120mm with $60mm for development financing for infrastructure improvements.
Ya, this just seems like an insane amount. Are they having to pay for any of the development costs or they getting it all for free?
baralheia 12-13-2016, 12:00 PM Last I heard, the Humphreys will be responsible for building all of the roads and infrastructure, which will be turned over to the city upon completion. I'm not sure how accurate this was, however.
Anonymous. 12-13-2016, 01:14 PM Remember the Wheeler district is basically non-existent infrastructure-wise. $120MM for basically a giant field that needs utilities and roads.
For reference, Clayco was wanting $140MM+ for the stage center block, which is already built infrastructure-wise. Now it can be argued that Clayco's demands were over-the-top and extremely unreasonable, hence why the project was also annexed.
Therefore, I am not so sure the Wheeler TIF is unreasonable. Although I also can't see the article, so I am not sure the specifics.
TexanOkie 12-13-2016, 01:24 PM Remember the Wheeler district is basically non-existent infrastructure-wise. $120MM for basically a giant field that needs utilities and roads.
For reference, Clayco was wanting $140MM+ for the stage center block, which is already built infrastructure-wise. Now it can be argued that Clayco's demands were over-the-top and extremely unreasonable, hence why the project was also annexed.
Therefore, I am not so sure the Wheeler TIF is unreasonable. Although I also can't see the article, so I am not sure the specifics.
Disclosure--my firm represents Humphreys with their TIF; however, everything that follows is in the article and documents that have been made public. The proposed TIF allows up up to $60 million for infrastructure reimbursements (which is nowhere near the total projected costs of the infrastructure) on the back end. Humphreys will still be responsible for financing and building the infrastructure upfront. Because the payment would come on the back end from collected increment funds, if the development is not as successful as anticipated, Humphreys stands to not have as much infrastructure costs reimbursed. The other $60 million is proposed to be paid to Oklahoma City Public Schools to build a new elementary school to serve the area and surrounding neighborhoods, and for improvements/expansion of middle/high school capacity.
onthestrip 12-13-2016, 01:28 PM Remember the Wheeler district is basically non-existent infrastructure-wise. $120MM for basically a giant field that needs utilities and roads.
For reference, Clayco was wanting $140MM+ for the stage center block, which is already built infrastructure-wise. Now it can be argued that Clayco's demands were over-the-top and extremely unreasonable, hence why the project was also annexed.
Therefore, I am not so sure the Wheeler TIF is unreasonable. Although I also can't see the article, so I am not sure the specifics.
Non exsistent? Maybe directly on their property there isnt much but there are definitely utility mains that are adjacent to this property. You do realize that pretty much all other developers, whether a new neighborhood in NW OKC or a new large shopping center along I40 pays for all the new roads and utility extensions that are necessary, right?
Bellaboo 12-13-2016, 02:24 PM Non exsistent? Maybe directly on their property there isnt much but there are definitely utility mains that are adjacent to this property. You do realize that pretty much all other developers, whether a new neighborhood in NW OKC or a new large shopping center along I40 pays for all the new roads and utility extensions that are necessary, right?
Not necessarily in all cases. There are instances where the City will bring main utilities up to and into a parcel. What they will not do is structure hookups.
Teo9969 12-13-2016, 02:43 PM Let me break it down...
A tax increment finance district, also known as a TIF, allows a city, town or county to use tax money generated by a new development to pay for public improvements in the development area.
TIF's establish a base year and then take ALL incremental new property tax (and sometimes sales tax) from that point forward. [Up to a budgeted amount. However, that budgeted amount can be increased by the council, as has been the case with TIF #2 at least once.]
- and -
The huge majority of the funds are used for PRIVATE development, not public.
Part or all of the increase in property taxes resulting from new development after a district is formed is invested back into the area for a term usually set at 25 years. The project budgets usually include allocations for local schools, libraries, the county and the city-county health department.
MOST of the TIF funds are used for private development and SOMETIMES money goes back to schools, libraries, county and city-county health department, but those are the taxing jurisdictions from which the TIF dollars are redirected in the first place. In any event, at most they receive back a small fraction of what is taken away.
I placed in red one clarification that I think is important to understand.
Teo9969 12-13-2016, 03:05 PM I can't read the article. Assuming that it's as TexanOkie says ($60M for infrastructure reimbursement and $60M to OKCPS for construction projects), then I have 2 questions and 1 thought.
Question #1: What counts as infrastructure? No doubt electric, gas, water and roads. But is there anything else that can be counted as "infrastructure" such as sculptures or trees or any sort of building? Sidewalks (which should be a substantial element in this neighborhood)? It sounds reasonable in theory, but if there's a way to manipulate a $10M building to be defined as "infrastructure" it would be nice to know that such a "loop-hole" gets closed, or at least more transparent. If they want $10M to build a community facility, fine...but be upfront about it.
Thought #1: Regarding the $60M for schools. I'm certainly okay with it, and especially if they go the route of a bilingual elementary. However, these sorts of projects are typically reserved for bond-issues. I would hope we don't see language that is overly self-congratulatory for "doing good for the schools". It's a sensible investment, but it's still forcing the districts' hands in regards to their budget. With the increase in population that should occur because of this district, I think that's a laudable thing to do...but by no means is this a "paying it forward" type gesture.
Question #2: Is there priority language in the makeup of the TIF? Specifically, does OKCPS get first priority on the money created through the TIF, does the infrastructure reimbursement see first fruits, some % split, or is there no clarification in this regards? I'm not 100% sure, but I don't believe that TIF works exactly as MAPS (i.e. pays-out when it funds), but I also would hope the city is not going to launch $60M into OKCPS, and reimburse another $60M in infrastructure if it turns out that the TIF never meets the $120M target (that shouldn't be a problem, but it will be if the neighborhood doesn't mostly fill out within the first third of the TIF's lifespan --- I'd guess they'd achieve the $120M if there is a $400M increase in taxable market value by year 10).
TexanOkie 12-13-2016, 03:22 PM I can't read the article. Assuming that it's as TexanOkie says ($60M for infrastructure reimbursement and $60M to OKCPS for construction projects), then I have 2 questions and 1 thought.
Question #1: What counts as infrastructure? No doubt electric, gas, water and roads. But is there anything else that can be counted as "infrastructure" such as sculptures or trees or any sort of building? Sidewalks (which should be a substantial element in this neighborhood)? It sounds reasonable in theory, but if there's a way to manipulate a $10M building to be defined as "infrastructure" it would be nice to know that such a "loop-hole" gets closed, or at least more transparent. If they want $10M to build a community facility, fine...but be upfront about it.
Thought #1: Regarding the $60M for schools. I'm certainly okay with it, and especially if they go the route of a bilingual elementary. However, these sorts of projects are typically reserved for bond-issues. I would hope we don't see language that is overly self-congratulatory for "doing good for the schools". It's a sensible investment, but it's still forcing the districts' hands in regards to their budget. With the increase in population that should occur because of this district, I think that's a laudable thing to do...but by no means is this a "paying it forward" type gesture.
Question #2: Is there priority language in the makeup of the TIF? Specifically, does OKCPS get first priority on the money created through the TIF, does the infrastructure reimbursement see first fruits, some % split, or is there no clarification in this regards? I'm not 100% sure, but I don't believe that TIF works exactly as MAPS (i.e. pays-out when it funds), but I also would hope the city is not going to launch $60M into OKCPS, and reimburse another $60M in infrastructure if it turns out that the TIF never meets the $120M target (that shouldn't be a problem, but it will be if the neighborhood doesn't mostly fill out within the first third of the TIF's lifespan --- I'd guess they'd achieve the $120M if there is a $400M increase in taxable market value by year 10).
I can't speak as to Question 1, but on Question 2, the way it has been presented to the Review Committee is that the increment would come in 2 "tiers"--the first a 75-25 split between the infrastructure reimbursement set-aside and the money allocated for the elementary school, and the second (basically, once the infrastructure and elementary school money has been collected) going 100% to the school district.
jbrown84 12-13-2016, 03:57 PM You do realize that pretty much all other developers, whether a new neighborhood in NW OKC or a new large shopping center along I40 pays for all the new roads and utility extensions that are necessary, right?
The point of TIF in this case is to incentivize a developer to take a huge risk on development that will provide a much needed jumpstart to a forgotten, depressed area. I think this project is more than deserving.
catcherinthewry 12-13-2016, 06:46 PM The point of TIF in this case is to incentivize a developer to take a huge risk on development that will provide a much needed jumpstart to a forgotten, depressed area. I think this project is more than deserving.
It may have been forgotten and depressed, but it is very close to the new Central Park so it will be a very desirable location in the near future. If Blair doesn't want to develop it w/o a boat load of corporate welfare I'm sure someone else will.
Spartan 12-13-2016, 09:54 PM Ya, this just seems like an insane amount. Are they having to pay for any of the development costs or they getting it all for free?
Wow. Do you not realize that all of Western has to be rebuilt. Even as a street it is a terrifying speedway that the city has to address. I think Western's speedway nature has really damaged the south side, among other things. Way too many commuters cutting through to avoid the freeways.
They are calling for a streetscape, a traffic circle, and other traffic calming measures. To pull this off, they are capturing some of the taxes created by their own development, which won't happen without every penny of this. I wish they would ask for more TIF to connect the streetcar early.
This project is basically the original Stapleton.
Teo9969 12-14-2016, 01:13 AM I can't speak as to Question 1, but on Question 2, the way it has been presented to the Review Committee is that the increment would come in 2 "tiers"--the first a 75-25 split between the infrastructure reimbursement set-aside and the money allocated for the elementary school, and the second (basically, once the infrastructure and elementary school money has been collected) going 100% to the school district.
The city really ought to change up the terms: 80/20 for the first $40M of Increment, and 45/55 after that. If need be, allow around $5M to go toward private property. This current setup does not incentivize urgency in the least, because the developers are pretty well guaranteed to get what they need, and if they don't move quick enough, OKCPS is who loses out the most.
Basically, OKCPS isn't going to see a bunch of that money until half this board is in retirement.
HangryHippo 12-14-2016, 07:46 AM The city really ought to change up the terms: 80/20 for the first $40M of Increment, and 45/55 after that. If need be, allow around $5M to go toward private property. This current setup does not incentivize urgency in the least, because the developers are pretty well guaranteed to get what they need, and if they don't move quick enough, OKCPS is who loses out the most.
Basically, OKCPS isn't going to see a bunch of that money until half this board is in retirement.
That's a great idea, Teo - incentivizing urgency.
catcherinthewry 12-14-2016, 07:53 AM Wow. Do you not realize that all of Western has to be rebuilt. Even as a street it is a terrifying speedway that the city has to address. I think Western's speedway nature has really damaged the south side, among other things. Way too many commuters cutting through to avoid the freeways.
That is just a ridiculous statement. Are Penn and Walker terrifying speedways as well? Western does not HAVE to be rebuilt. Blair WANTS it to be rebuilt for the benefit of his development. I get that, he's a businessman. He's looking out for himself. But be doesn't seem to care that Western is a major north/south artery for the south side. A TIF should benefit, or at very least, not cause harm to the entire city, not just a developer and a small number of residents.
Richard at Remax 12-14-2016, 09:44 AM This is why I've never had warm and fuzzies about this development being built to what is planned.
jbrown84 12-15-2016, 04:25 PM It may have been forgotten and depressed, but it is very close to the new Central Park so it will be a very desirable location in the near future. If Blair doesn't want to develop it w/o a boat load of corporate welfare I'm sure someone else will.
Someone may, sure, in like 30-40 years and it will be of much lesser quality.
Spartan 12-15-2016, 07:11 PM That is just a ridiculous statement. Are Penn and Walker terrifying speedways as well? Western does not HAVE to be rebuilt. Blair WANTS it to be rebuilt for the benefit of his development. I get that, he's a businessman. He's looking out for himself. But be doesn't seem to care that Western is a major north/south artery for the south side. A TIF should benefit, or at very least, not cause harm to the entire city, not just a developer and a small number of residents.
I agree, when those corridors cross the river, they're pretty terrifying as well. Walker is widely known as the quickest way through to 240, so those drivers are typically going 50+. Penn has truck traffic from all the nearby industry west and southwest of downtown.
I recognize that there is an impending clash between further-south commuters and proponents of this project, but I think it's a worthy fight. The south side has always been disconnected from downtown and cut off from prosperity in the rest of OKC.
I think walkability is a key way to create value in a community, and conversely these kinds of speedways are a major detrimental land influence. I also think it's really important to invest in economic development on Western if OKC is ever going to reduce unemployment on the south side, address crime and blight, and combat job sprawl that is leaving behind low-income residents. No other developer would have even considered connecting this project to the surrounding street grid, which is going to be an issue he'll need to overcome, but will also seriously help improve surrounding areas. You should go take a trip through the Will Rogers hood and see what I'm talking about.
I don't think anyone is going to touch this deal unless they get a bigger TIF and happen to think like Blair, which is rare. On one hand it's an amazing site he got for cheap and a natural progression of downtown, but on the other hand it's a brownfield adjacent to one of the city's most notorious public housing areas, and bifurcated by an ugly speedway.
Is OKC going to be a crappy metro with a great downtown, or is OKC going to look at broader revitalization? Toward that end, we need to start realizing that the south side is at least half of the metro.
catcherinthewry 12-15-2016, 07:45 PM I agree, when those corridors cross the river, they're pretty terrifying as well. Walker is widely known as the quickest way through to 240, so those drivers are typically going 50+. Penn has truck traffic from all the nearby industry west and southwest of downtown.
Spartan, you remind me of Trump the way you spout things as fact that are patently untrue. As someone who actually lives on the south side I can honestly say you are just making things up to support your argument.
I also think it's really important to invest in economic development on Western if OKC is ever going to reduce unemployment on the south side, address crime and blight, and combat job sprawl that is leaving behind low-income residents.
I must've missed that all things would be solved by the Wheeler District. Do you think Blair can think outside of OKC and bring world peace?
On one hand it's an amazing site he got for cheap and a natural progression of downtown, but on the other hand it's a brownfield
I'm all for helping him with the brownfield, but after that he should do what is asked of every other developer in OKC.
ABCOKC 12-15-2016, 08:04 PM Someone may, sure, in like 30-40 years and it will be of much lesser quality.
Exactly. This board talks a lot about a need for quality, and stopping bad developments. But IMO this has to be a carrot and stick situation. Of course, if a project is bad for the city we want to disincentivize it. But if OKC is serious about wanting high-quality development then we have to be prepared to reward developers who propose and build things like this.
If Wheeler is built as planned it will be, as far as I can tell, a world-class model of urbanism as well as a great place to live; and the developer isn't trying to quarantine it from its sketchy surroundings, but is actually embracing them! This is exactly the type of development we should be prepared to incentivize more heavily than we would a typical housing proposal.
We can argue the specifics of what is a reasonable amount of TIF and so on, but to treat this like a new subdivision out by 164th and Rockwell is insanity.
Bellaboo 12-15-2016, 08:54 PM ^^^ + 1 ^^^
onthestrip 12-16-2016, 10:39 AM Exactly. This board talks a lot about a need for quality, and stopping bad developments. But IMO this has to be a carrot and stick situation. Of course, if a project is bad for the city we want to disincentivize it. But if OKC is serious about wanting high-quality development then we have to be prepared to reward developers who propose and build things like this.
If Wheeler is built as planned it will be, as far as I can tell, a world-class model of urbanism as well as a great place to live; and the developer isn't trying to quarantine it from its sketchy surroundings, but is actually embracing them! This is exactly the type of development we should be prepared to incentivize more heavily than we would a typical housing proposal.
We can argue the specifics of what is a reasonable amount of TIF and so on, but to treat this like a new subdivision out by 164th and Rockwell is insanity.
Of course it will be different, mostly because it will be much more dense, which likely makes it more profitable when scaled to 164th and Rockwell neighborhoods. The road isnt any more expensive in Wheeler as it is in the burbs, but in Wheeler they will be fitting many more housing units along that new road. So I dont get the $60 million in TIF. I can certainly understand some, but $60 mil is just an incredible amount for something that isnt much different than in the burbs, other than more density, sidewalks, and and some green space.
TexanOkie 12-16-2016, 11:44 AM Of course it will be different, mostly because it will be much more dense, which likely makes it more profitable when scaled to 164th and Rockwell neighborhoods. The road isnt any more expensive in Wheeler as it is in the burbs, but in Wheeler they will be fitting many more housing units along that new road. So I dont get the $60 million in TIF. I can certainly understand some, but $60 mil is just an incredible amount for something that isnt much different than in the burbs, other than more density, sidewalks, and and some green space.
The increased density and urban design does bring with it it increased design costs and public infrastructure costs compared to suburban development. It's also a riskier proposition for a bank to finance because of its novelty. Combine that with the fact that this is a brownfield and not a greenfield site, means that the profitability comparison is not near as direct as comparing it to a new subdivision on the northern edges of the city. The potential rewards may be greater, but it is a significantly costlier and riskier undertaking.
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Not to mention, the entire area is in uncharted territory for new development, which is perhaps the biggest risk of all.
And, the spirit of TIF is to help kick-start blighted areas. That definition gets bastardized to include almost anything including properties right in the heart of downtown, but Wheeler is the perfect application for TIF.
If we don't do it here, we shouldn't be doing it anywhere.
onthestrip 12-16-2016, 01:01 PM The increased density and urban design does bring with it it increased design costs and public infrastructure costs compared to suburban development. It's also a riskier proposition for a bank to finance because of its novelty. Combine that with the fact that this is a brownfield and not a greenfield site, means that the profitability comparison is not near as direct as comparing it to a new subdivision on the northern edges of the city. The potential rewards may be greater, but it is a significantly costlier and riskier undertaking.
Didnt know smaller homes, row homes, zero lot line homes, and apartments were novelty.
Another argument against the high amount of TIF here is that this project can be done in phases that limits the risk. Build a street or two, start selling lots or building housing and sell or rent those. They do well, repeat, and add more amenities and quality of life components as you go. At least with a big retail project or a large apartment complex, you have to start it all at once which pretty much requires all your financing up front. Not so with Wheeler. The Residences at 21c will basically require $70 million at the get go, and you then have to wait a year and a half before you see a drop of return. Much riskier if you ask me than spending a few million to get some roads and utilities into a position to start selling or renting housing. If those go well, you keep going.
Teo9969 12-16-2016, 01:11 PM ^
Not to mention, the entire area is in uncharted territory for new development, which is perhaps the biggest risk of all.
And, the spirit of TIF is to help kick-start blighted areas. That definition gets bastardized to include almost anything including properties right in the heart of downtown, but Wheeler is the perfect application for TIF.
If we don't do it here, we shouldn't be doing it anywhere.
Exactly this.
Even though I think the city could restructure what is currently given to, again, incentivize urgency, I think it would be a mistake to not give TIF here.
TexanOkie 12-16-2016, 01:14 PM Didnt know smaller homes, row homes, zero lot line homes, and apartments were novelty.
Another argument against the high amount of TIF here is that this project can be done in phases that limits the risk. Build a street or two, start selling lots or building housing and sell or rent those. They do well, repeat, and add more amenities and quality of life components as you go. At least with a big retail project or a large apartment complex, you have to start it all at once which pretty much requires all your financing up front. Not so with Wheeler. The Residences at 21c will basically require $70 million at the get go, and you then have to wait a year and a half before you see a drop of return. Much riskier if you ask me than spending a few million to get some roads and utilities into a position to start selling or renting housing. If those go well, you keep going.
The project is already going to be built in phases. You can't do something this size without doing it in bite-sized chunks. However, and I can't stress this enough--this is not your typical zero-lot-line residential development. It's an integrated, vertical and horizontal mixed-use environment on a scale Oklahoma has not seen since before World War II. This kind of development does not fit into the easy-to-classify boxes for traditional development financing that have become the norm since the widespread industry standardization, spread of auto-oriented zoning, and government rubberstamping of the same that has taken place over the last 70 years. In that sense, development like this is a novelty. It is especially a novelty in this part of the country.
warreng88 12-16-2016, 01:23 PM Didnt know smaller homes, row homes, zero lot line homes, and apartments were novelty.
As a loan officer at a bank who finances a lot of single family homes and land developments, I can say it is distinctly different. First of all, the location. It is not in the burbs (Edmond, piedmont, Yukon, Mustang, Moore, Norman) where most of the development is going on and that is due to schools. Banks don't know how this will work out, so the LTV will be lower and the lot takedown cost will be higher than it would be in a traditional neighborhood.
There is not a lot of development going on like this anywhere in the city, so comps will be difficult to come by. I know several developers who want to build condos downtown, but are afraid of what they are going to appraise for. Not for their sake, but for the end user. This might cause the buyer to have to bring significantly more cash to closing than a typical home.
A lot of this might be mitigated by the Humphrey's strength as guarantors, but banks will still think it is riskier. If this was the third development of its kind in the past couple of years and each of previous ones worked out well with more of these kinds of developments in the future, that would be one thing, but it is completely different than any other development in the city.
catcherinthewry 12-16-2016, 06:20 PM I know several developers who want to build condos downtown, but are afraid of what they are going to appraise for.
They should just ask the city to repay them for all of their infrastructure costs like Blair is doing. Problem solved.
Teo9969 12-17-2016, 12:55 PM They should just ask the city to repay them for all of their infrastructure costs like Blair is doing. Problem solved.
:lol2:
That's just absurd.
Spartan 12-17-2016, 08:01 PM Spartan, you remind me of Trump the way you spout things as fact that are patently untrue. As someone who actually lives on the south side I can honestly say you are just making things up to support your argument.
I must've missed that all things would be solved by the Wheeler District. Do you think Blair can think outside of OKC and bring world peace?
I'm all for helping him with the brownfield, but after that he should do what is asked of every other developer in OKC.
Okay, I just can't even. The south side's commercial corridors are perfect the way they are. Wheeler District will just be more of the same for the south side. And maybe some day Blair will become like all the other OKC developers, you know, doing great development all around without ANY public subsidy, and stop wasting his time with these community building projects.
warreng88 01-18-2017, 08:31 AM Wheeler district TIF gets nod
By: Brian Brus The Journal Record January 17, 2017
OKLAHOMA CITY – City Council members moved a step closer to a new variant in the tax increment finance district concept Tuesday to support residential and commercial development just south of the Oklahoma River.
Developer Blair Humphreys was praised repeatedly for being willing to shoulder the risk in getting the Wheeler district off the ground. Cathy O’Connor, president of The Alliance for Economic Development of Oklahoma City, said the structure of the TIF district left City Hall without any moral obligation to pick up costs if Humphreys’ plan fails.
“It’s an ambitious project that represents the development of a blighted area,” O’Connor said. “But this TIF district is a little bit different from some of the other ones we have looked at in the past. … The developer will assume all of the financial risk for financing TIF improvements.”
The costs to be funded by the TIF district total $120 million, with half going toward financing assistance and the remainder for public education: the Western Gateway Elementary School and a middle school or high school as needed. O’Connor said the total private investment in the area is projected to be at least $576 million.
Oklahoma state law allows municipalities to access funds for economic development by defining a region and locking property values at a base level while setting aside ad valorem tax revenue as it naturally increases over that base over years. The additional revenue is then funneled into projects within the district, making the surrounding area more attractive for additional development. Depending on the district design, sometimes that money can be generated early with debt and paid off as the area grows.
In Wheeler’s case, officials project the ad valorem tax increase will generate about $50,000 in its early years and $11 million over the long term.
Wheeler is part of a larger proposal referred to as the Western Gateway Project reviewed by council members Tuesday. The plan divides the area along Western Avenue into two sub-districts to stagger the timing of tax revenue collections. The ordinance is set for final hearing Jan. 31.
Humphreys relocated an operating Ferris wheel to anchor the 150-acre project just north of SW 20th Street. He started buying parcels in 2006. Construction on single-family homes, apartments, town homes and condo-flats; 20,000 square feet of office space; and at least 3,000 square feet of retail or restaurants will begin early this year. Humphreys said the first families will move in early 2018.
He said that would be impossible, however, without the presence of schools nearby to serve the area.
Councilman Ed Shadid praised Humphreys with the rest of his peers on the council, although he did question the steep price tag of municipal assistance. He asked that housing be afforded for a wide range of socioeconomic levels.
Humphreys said he intends to build at least 20 percent of the residences in an affordable range with assistance via community land trusts or other government programs. Wheeler will also offer houses beginning at as little as 700 square feet for single residents or couples.
“Our hope would be that we can serve people in the 70 percent AMI (area median income) all the way up to 120,” Humphreys said. “When you go below that, you really have to start to package other federal programs in order to address the affordability issues.”
Spartan 01-18-2017, 01:06 PM Major kudos to both Blair and the city (esp O'Connor and Greenwell) for inking a great deal for OKC!
Sounds 100% promising but not totally sure the CLT model is the right affordability mechanism for OKC..that'll be interesting to see.
aDark 01-18-2017, 01:43 PM Major kudos to both Blair and the city (esp O'Connor and Greenwell) for inking a great deal for OKC!
Sounds 100% promising but not totally sure the CLT model is the right affordability mechanism for OKC..that'll be interesting to see.
Spartan, I am uncertain if your most recent comment is meant as sarcasm. You seem to be congratulating Blair and the city while just recently criticizing the same. You stated, " And maybe some day Blair will become like all the other OKC developers, you know, doing great development all around without ANY public subsidy, and stop wasting his time with these community building projects."
Are you for the Wheeler District TIF financing or against it?
Teo9969 01-18-2017, 04:22 PM Spartan, I am uncertain if your most recent comment is meant as sarcasm. You seem to be congratulating Blair and the city while just recently criticizing the same. You stated, " And maybe some day Blair will become like all the other OKC developers, you know, doing great development all around without ANY public subsidy, and stop wasting his time with these community building projects."
Are you for the Wheeler District TIF financing or against it?
I believe he's saying that the great OKC developers are all taking public incentives, so why should Blair and his team at Wheeler be any different, because he's always responding to posters who are definitely against Blair receiving public incentives (indeed, Wheeler is asking for a lot more than most developers, but it's really a completely different case.
Spartan 01-18-2017, 08:22 PM Spartan, I am uncertain if your most recent comment is meant as sarcasm. You seem to be congratulating Blair and the city while just recently criticizing the same. You stated, " And maybe some day Blair will become like all the other OKC developers, you know, doing great development all around without ANY public subsidy, and stop wasting his time with these community building projects."
Are you for the Wheeler District TIF financing or against it?
Fair question, and my apologies for the sarcasm before. I am hugely supportive of the city doing anything within its means to help Blair. The guy is a developer who gets it and cares about OKC and is clearly trying to build his legacy where no one else will go.
I'm also getting increasingly proud that Greenwell reps the ward I grew up in. It's hard to believe who he replaced..Brian Walters lol
The sarcasm earlier is bc we seemingly grant basically anyone a TIF if they can claim structured parking is vital public infrastructure. Then we absolutely balk at large TIFs for Clayco or Blair to do an actually catalytic project. It doesn't make sense. If we give a $1 million TIF on a bunch of $3-5 million dollar deals, ultimately it's no different than doing a $60-80 million TIF on a $500 million deal, on which you actually come out way ahead and produce something that is truly impossible without public help.
LakeEffect 01-19-2017, 12:49 PM The sarcasm earlier is bc we seemingly grant basically anyone a TIF if they can claim structured parking is vital public infrastructure. Then we absolutely balk at large TIFs for Clayco or Blair to do an actually catalytic project. It doesn't make sense. If we give a $1 million TIF on a bunch of $3-5 million dollar deals, ultimately it's no different than doing a $60-80 million TIF on a $500 million deal, on which you actually come out way ahead and produce something that is truly impossible without public help.
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ljbab728 02-01-2017, 10:40 AM O’Connor: Wheeler District development moving forward
By Cathy O’Connor
The Journal Record
The Oklahoma City Council approved a $120 million tax increment financing plan for the Western Gateway TIF District near downtown, which includes the Wheeler District, recognized by the iconic Ferris wheel on the river. The project area is east of S. Blackwelder Avenue and west of S. Walker Avenue, between the Oklahoma River on the north and Twin Creek on the south.
The Wheeler District is proposed as a vibrant, mixed-used community that will include residential and commercial development, as well as open space. The 150-acre master planned development will include as many as 2,000 units of housing. One of the goals of the development is to encourage a range of housing types including town houses, small lot single-family homes and multifamily apartments. The development will also include commercial and retail development and is designed to integrate with the existing neighborhoods by extending the street grid. Plans for the district were developed by the Humphreys Co. over the past several years, including many hours of community engagement and other forms of public input.
The tax increment financing plan calls for $60 million in infrastructure projects such as water, sewer, drainage, grading, streets and alleys, trails and bike paths. TIF will also help fund the development of a new elementary school in the area and eventually a mid/high school. It is an investment in raising a vibrant community from a blighted and economically depressed area.
The Western Gateway TIF is structured so that financing and risk are assumed by the developer. Once private development creates an incremental increase in property taxes, that increment will be used to repay the developer’s cost to finance and install infrastructure. The developer believes, as we do, that an investment in this area south of the Oklahoma River will bring success to the Wheeler District and have a ripple effect on surrounding neighborhoods.
With the approval of the City Council, Blair Humphreys plans to break ground as early as April. The development will progress over 10 phases, beginning with housing and the elementary school.
Cathy O’Connor is the president of the Alliance for Economic Development of Oklahoma City.
Laramie 02-01-2017, 11:09 AM The Oklahoma City Council approved a $120 million tax increment financing plan for the Western Gateway TIF District near downtown, which includes the Wheeler District, recognized by the iconic Ferris wheel on the river. The project area is east of S. Blackwelder Avenue and west of S. Walker Avenue, between the Oklahoma River on the north and Twin Creek on the south.
The hurdle needed to spark the Wheeler District development. Can't wait to see the final plans on this. The area is so beautiful at night with the iconic Ferris Wheel accented by the surrounding land just waiting to be developed.
Spartan 02-01-2017, 06:26 PM Wow an April ground-breaking. Awesome to see this becoming reality.
With the parallel timing on a lot of new development in Capitol Hill, it will be very meaningful just to have tangible development moving forward here, too.
Wow an April ground-breaking. Awesome to see this becoming reality.
With the parallel timing on a lot of new development in Capitol Hill, it will be very meaningful just to have tangible development moving forward here, too.
Spartan, you remind me of Trump the way you spout things as fact that are patently untrue. As someone who actually lives on the south side I can honestly say you are just making things up to support your argument.
I must've missed that all things would be solved by the Wheeler District. Do you think Blair can think outside of OKC and bring world peace?
I'm all for helping him with the brownfield, but after that he should do what is asked of every other developer in OKC.
I had to scroll past the above post I already read while seeing the new update in this thread. While obviously I already read this, I was still surprised to see such comments. This is the kind of post that can have long-term damaging affects on your credibility, and I will keep this post in mind whenever I see your username. You're the guy who thinks the southside is fine the way it is and that the southbound roadways crossing the river are perfectly safe.
On top of that, you obviously feel strongly enough about this that you oppose this development and don't see how it's a worthy public investment for the benefit of surrounding areas. I think at that point, there just isn't much else to really say. You see things your way, I see things my way, and I will continue to think of ways of improving the southside which I do think HAS to change.
We give so much lip service to "MAPS FOR Neighborhoods," but what neighborhoods? Obviously "neighborhoods" only means certain neighborhoods of the city. On the bright side, the fact that this is a done deal and moving forward, means that at least the City is actually trying here. That means a lot.
Laramie 02-06-2017, 12:11 PM http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/wheelerwiki1.jpg
https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0c/13/ae/9c/wheeler-ferris-wheel.jpg
Oklahoma City's council approved public financing to promote redevelopment of the Wheeler District, a blighted neighborhood that includes the old Downtown Airpark.
Known as the Western Gateway for transforming Western Avenue's approach to downtown, the new mixed-use neighborhood is to include 2,000 housing units.
About 2.5 million square feet of office, retail, commercial and residential space is to be developed on either side of Western, on the south side of the Oklahoma River.
The 150-acre district is distinguished by the Ferris wheel erected last year.
http://www.oklahoman.com/oklahoma-citys-council-green-lights-wheeler-district/article/5536917
_Kyle 02-10-2017, 10:34 PM Approved http://kfor.com/2017/02/10/tiny-homes-coming-to-oklahoma-citys-wheeler-district/
KingOfTheNorth 02-17-2017, 10:13 AM I really hope this project creates a "bookend" for this section of the Oklahoma River and start the process of filling in Riverfront properties between here and Lincoln, for instance. Imagine having a full amount of businesses, homes, apartments, entertainment, etc. all along the Oklahoma River that people can bike down the bike path through, live a comfortable distance from work downtown, and ride a possible street car or transit options through. This is all spit balling of course, but the possibilities and options can easily exist or fall in to place here. Not to mention it would eventually buy out that dog food factory and greatly improve the smell of the river and downtown in general.
dankrutka 02-17-2017, 11:25 AM Imagine having a full amount of businesses, homes, apartments, entertainment, etc. all along the Oklahoma River that people can bike down the bike path through, live a comfortable distance from work downtown, and ride a possible street car or transit options through.
Yes! Some (mixed-use) residential, office, retail along the river could bring it to life and be a really cool place to live/work/play. I hope the Wheeler ignites that. I'd also love to see a hotel built by all the river developments.
riflesforwatie 03-22-2017, 09:04 AM Wheeler construction set to start in 60 days
http://newsok.com/wheeler-construction-set-to-start-in-60-days/article/5542578
riflesforwatie 03-22-2017, 09:04 AM ...
Ferris wheel opens for the season this Saturday.
Roger S 03-30-2017, 11:52 AM Saw they are having a big pop-up event out there on the 15th of April too.... https://www.facebook.com/events/1326543014045077/
Bellaboo 03-30-2017, 12:16 PM Ferris wheel opens for the season this Saturday.
A few days this week at 7 am they have had it all lit up. Not sure why ?
jerrywall 03-30-2017, 12:19 PM A few days this week at 7 am they have had it all lit up. Not sure why ?
Testing?
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Wheeler Ferris Wheel Season Opening
OKLAHOMA CITY (April 1, 2017)—The Wheeler Ferris Wheel is celebrating its 2017 season opening on Saturday, April 1st. The start of this season will debut enhancements to the Wheeler Riverfront Plaza including food truck parking, new landscape features, a bocce ball court, and the hammock grove. Twelve hammocks will line the south bank of the Oklahoma River and be a perfect spot to read a book on a sunny afternoon or catch the Wheeler Ferris Wheel light show in the evening. In addition to the Ferris Wheel, the Wheeler Riverfront Plaza is home to public art: Amanda Bradway & Erin Coooper’s “WindWall” and Hugh Meade’s “O-K-C” sculpture. Other amenities include Pavilion and Courtyard spaces, as well as seating throughout. The Wheeler Riverfront Plaza is open Tuesdays-Thursdays 4pm-9pm, Fridays 11am-10pm, Saturdays 8am-10pm, and Sundays 12pm-6pm. Single Ride tickets are $6, Day Passes are $10, and Season Passes are $20.
“The Wheeler Ferris Wheel is launching this season with new features that will invite visitors to linger and enjoy views of downtown after they ride the Wheel. You can grab a bite to eat at a food truck or lounge in the hammock grove”, said Wheeler District Director of Public Life Ashley Terry. “The Ferris Wheel is just the beginning of the vision for the Wheeler District. We are excited to kick off another Ferris Wheel season in addition to beginning construction on the broader development.”
The Ferris Wheel hosted a successful grand opening to the public on July 4th, 2016 drawing more than a hundred thousand visitors to the Wheeler Riverfront Plaza throughout the season. The Wheeler Ferris Wheel was previously located on the famed Santa Monica Pier before being purchased on Ebay by Grant Humphreys in 2008. The Wheel was been featured in a host of Hollywood films, including the original Iron Man. Since its purchase, the wheel has been completely refurbished and enhanced, including the replacement of almost 6,000 incandescent bulbs with over 100,000 programmable LED lights. The project was carried out by a team that included: LINGO Construction, McAlister Construction, Commonworks Architects and PATH Engineering.
The Wheeler District masterplan was developed based on input of the public during a July 2014 design charrette. Construction of the first phase of housing and mixed-use development is anticipated to begin in the next sixty days.
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/wheeler040117.jpg
ljbab728 04-01-2017, 11:48 PM Pete, is this your article or is it from another source?
It's a press release.
I always provide a link and full credit when it's someone else's story.
Spartan 04-02-2017, 10:56 AM Come on, For Immediate Release has feelings too.
PhiAlpha 04-03-2017, 12:33 PM Pete, is this your article or is it from another source?
The butthurt.....ITS REAL!!!
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