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Urbanized 04-02-2016, 11:54 AM Tiny houses/lots prob. mean 1000 sq. ft or smaller homes built on zero lot line tracts.
No, I don't think that is correct. I think they are looking to connect with and embrace the tiny house movement, which is a lifestyle choice that encourages ultra-efficient living in houses that typically range from 100(!!!) to 400 sq ft. This would require some reworking of code requirements in OKC, at least as they apply to this PUD. Specifically OKC requires a minimum amount of square footage for detached housing. In some cities people bypass such requirements by building their tiny houses on a flatbed trailer instead of a foundation, but I think they hope to codify the smaller sizes so that they can be built traditionally.
You can read about the tiny house movement here: What Is The Tiny House Movement? ? The Tiny Life (http://thetinylife.com/what-is-the-tiny-house-movement/) or here: Tiny House Movement: Affordable Housing Revolution (http://tinyhousetalk.com/tiny-house-movement/) or on Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiny_house_movement
mkjeeves 04-02-2016, 02:35 PM No, I don't think that is correct. I think they are looking to connect with and embrace the tiny house movement, which is a lifestyle choice that encourages ultra-efficient living in houses that typically range from 100(!!!) to 400 sq ft. This would require some reworking of code requirements in OKC, at least as they apply to this PUD. Specifically OKC requires a minimum amount of square footage for detached housing. In some cities people bypass such requirements by building their tiny houses on a flatbed trailer instead of a foundation, but I think they hope to codify the smaller sizes so that they can be built traditionally.
You can read about the tiny house movement here: What Is The Tiny House Movement? ? The Tiny Life (http://thetinylife.com/what-is-the-tiny-house-movement/) or here: Tiny House Movement: Affordable Housing Revolution (http://tinyhousetalk.com/tiny-house-movement/) or on Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiny_house_movement
Exactly. Except it says "manufactured" tiny houses, which would seem to disallow custom tiny houses, negate local building codes for how a tiny house might be constructed but make whatever standards there are in the manufactured housing industry apply. The city doesn't inspect how a manufactured house is built, or else they would have to have inspectors at the factory, they only inspect how it is connected to utilities, and then only when/if it's allowed by zoning.
krisb 04-05-2016, 02:06 PM Many tiny houses are built to RV standards and specifications and are classified as such. This allows people to move their tiny house to a new location as needed. "Manufactured" is perhaps a way to avoid changing the zoning laws and acknowledges the potential need for them to be mobile.
Sounds like an incredibly expensive trailer park. Perhaps I'm not hip enough to understand.
LocoAko 04-05-2016, 03:06 PM https://twitter.com/buildlingo/status/717438318166695937
Ferris Wheel foundation:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfTaVZPUUAA8PVQ.jpg
Jersey Boss 04-05-2016, 03:27 PM Sounds like an incredibly expensive trailer park. Perhaps I'm not hip enough to understand.
http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjM1NzQwNTE1Ml5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwNjY2NjY0ODE@._ V1_UX477_CR0,0,477,268_AL_.jpg
http://blog.swearnet.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/trailer_park_boys_ps_by_nosoart-d8teo04.jpg
mkjeeves 04-05-2016, 03:47 PM Considering the location, more like living in a van down by the river.
But I get it. I'd like to have a tiny home on 100 acres in the Ozarks backed up to a national forest.
sroberts24 04-05-2016, 03:57 PM I am pretty stoked about this development and know the Humphreys will provide nothing but the best standards for the development. I look at this as being an OKC version of Carlton Landing. You really can't appreciate how amazing Carlton Landing is without spending some time there. It is extremely unique and I think they will provide that same uniqueness and feel to Wheeler District.
mkjeeves 04-05-2016, 04:04 PM There's at least one place at CL with a detached small living space on the same property as a house that's very well done I thought of first when I read this part about tiny homes. However, it's not mobile or a manufactured home. It's more like a pool cabana built to a tiny home Carlton Landing aesthetic, and does have a pool between the two.
I agree though, great job in the works at Carlton Landing and I expect they will do a great job with Wheeler.
Urbanized 04-05-2016, 04:05 PM Normally tiny houses are not built so much to be mobile as to circumvent zoning laws pertaining to minimum square footage. I thought I was clear on that in my previous post. I doubt the ones constructed in Wheeler would be the typical tiny houses (often owner-built, on trailers), but instead probably closer to what container housing is here; that is some part of the structure prefabricated and the rest built by a traditional homebuilder. They will probably prevail upon the City to allow square footage below the typical minimum threshold, codified in the PUD. These are all guesses, as I haven't discussed any of this in detail with the developer. I just know from past conversations that he was interested in possibly incorporating very small square footage homes into the development.
krisb 04-06-2016, 12:24 AM It seems very few municipalities allow for such a development and I don't expect Oklahoma City to all of a sudden become as progressive as Portland on this issue. Even in California most tiny home communities are built as RV or mobile home parks if they have any chance of withstanding the existing zoning laws.
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/wheeler041016.jpg
bchris02 04-10-2016, 12:43 PM I guess I don't really see the point of tiny houses unless its in a scenic mountainous or beach area where it would be impractical to build a regular house, or in a large city where there just isn't a lot of space. I do like Carlton Landing though and if the Wheeler District can come close to that, it will be a big win. Harbortown in Memphis is another good example.
Urbanized 04-10-2016, 08:19 PM The point of a tiny house is usually to live a compact, efficient lifestyle without emphasis on the accumulation of "stuff." Essentially, a re-focusing of life's priorities. It is more about philosophy than it is about place.
LocoAko 04-13-2016, 12:54 PM The Wheeler District?s Starting Line - 405 Magazine - April 2016 - Oklahoma City (http://www.405magazine.com/April-2016/The-Wheeler-Districts-Starting-Line/)
sooner88 04-25-2016, 12:37 PM Ferris Wheel Construction Viewing- TODAY ONLY (http://us8.campaign-archive1.com/?u=da620d6b464e1973d198f076a&id=55cead9951&e=80592dbb03)
From Stephen Tyler:
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/13043672_10206228099843406_6991295541481710642_n.j pg?oh=0807dcc5684e4aa24fe8f6f02791ee32&oe=57B969CE
OKCisOK4me 04-25-2016, 05:28 PM ^^That's Crazy and Amazing. I need to Get a Grip. This Wheeler District is gonna be one Sweet Emotion.
loveOKC 04-25-2016, 09:25 PM ^^That's Crazy and Amazing. I need to Get a Grip. This Wheeler District is gonna be one Sweet Emotion.
I see what you did there :wink:
UnFrSaKn 04-25-2016, 09:33 PM Today:
https://flickr.com/photos/59136137@N05/sets/72157667525085436
UnFrSaKn 04-25-2016, 09:34 PM http://youtu.be/nQjxJVA3zbM
UnFrSaKn 04-25-2016, 09:38 PM http://youtu.be/gcwo7ZKstoM
UnFrSaKn 04-25-2016, 09:38 PM http://youtu.be/WYsxfouLnZc
UnFrSaKn 04-25-2016, 09:39 PM http://youtu.be/P_CkrnfVa3Y
UnFrSaKn 04-25-2016, 09:39 PM http://youtu.be/QgwSPn_0RM8
^^That's Crazy and Amazing. I need to Get a Grip. This Wheeler District is gonna be one Sweet Emotion.
I Don't Want to Miss a Thing on this thread. I want to get a house in the Wheeler District, but given the prices I've seen, I might as well Dream On.
HOT ROD 04-26-2016, 04:40 AM think it will be ready or at least built and lit up in time for the next phase of the NBA Playoffs? :)
OKCisOK4me 04-26-2016, 04:45 AM I Don't Want to Miss a Thing on this thread. I want to get a house in the Wheeler District, but given the prices I've seen, I might as well Dream On.
Lol, fantastic! And agreed!
Teo9969 04-26-2016, 08:33 AM think it will be ready or at least built and lit up in time for the next phase of the NBA Playoffs? :)
MAYBE if we make the WCF, but I doubt so. I though they were looking at July/August completion.
ourulz2000 04-26-2016, 08:36 AM MAYBE if we make the WCF, but I doubt so. I though they were looking at July/August completion.
So after Durant leaves town for good? :wink:
UnFrSaKn 04-26-2016, 09:05 AM The former Santa Monica Pier Ferris Wheel has found its new home in Oklahoma City | News OK (http://newsok.com/the-former-santa-monica-pier-ferris-wheel-has-found-its-new-home-in-oklahoma-city/article/5494136)
Great pictures and videos! ^^
jerrywall 04-26-2016, 10:27 AM Just in time for the storm of the century!
ourulz2000 04-26-2016, 10:31 AM Just in time for the storm of the century!
Actually a good point brought up. I do wonder how this thing holds up in the Oklahoma wind.
Urbanized 04-26-2016, 10:43 AM I'm sure it survived more than a few massive gusts through the years while sitting on a pier jutting into the Pacific Ocean. A direct tornado strike is probably the only thing you need worry about, but of course pretty much anything would be devastated by that, and the chances of it happening are incredibly remote, from a statistical standpoint. Just regular old run-of-the-mill Oklahoma wind gusts shouldn't be any type of problem.
HangryHippo 04-26-2016, 10:46 AM Just in time for the storm of the century!
I was thinking the same thing, lolz. Hope it stands up to the winds (and hail and tornadoes and earthquakes).
Urbanized 04-26-2016, 11:06 AM Hopefully everyone is mostly joking about these weather concerns.
jccouger 04-26-2016, 11:58 AM I've ran on the river trail quite a few times & the wind gusts can be pretty extreme. I'm 100% sure structurally it will withstand anything short of a F4 tornado, BUT actually riding in that thing might be pretty scary on about 1/2 of the days of the year here.
Disclaimer* I've always been far more terrified of Ferris wheels than I have of roller coasters or other thrill rides.
David 04-26-2016, 01:04 PM Serious question regarding the wind possibilities, if wind isn't a concern, why are they building a wind wall out of shipping crates on-site?
The Ferris wheel plaza also will include a “wind wall,” consisting of shipping containers that become a canvass for a mural by Amanda Bradway and Aaron Cooper. Hugh Meade, meanwhile, is designing a sculpture consisting of giant letters for “OKC.”
Maybe I am missing something, though.
Bellaboo 04-26-2016, 01:08 PM Serious question regarding the wind possibilities, if wind isn't a concern, why are they building a wind wall out of shipping crates on-site?
Maybe I am missing something, though.
I presumed for people. Moderate wind shouldn't hurt a ferris wheel.
TexanOkie 04-26-2016, 01:16 PM Serious question regarding the wind possibilities, if wind isn't a concern, why are they building a wind wall out of shipping crates on-site?
Maybe I am missing something, though.
I think that "wind wall" is to protect where the restaurant/snack shop seating area is, not the ferris wheel itself.
I think that "wind wall" is to protect where the restaurant/snack shop seating area is, not the ferris wheel itself.
Correct, and the small outdoor courtyard between the two structures.
TexanOkie 04-26-2016, 04:03 PM The latest (sorry for the small size/quality):
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UnFrSaKn 04-26-2016, 06:09 PM https://twitter.com/stphntylr/status/725076312163934209
dankrutka 04-26-2016, 07:48 PM That's a very cool video.
Urbanized 04-27-2016, 08:10 AM I think that "wind wall" is to protect where the restaurant/snack shop seating area is, not the ferris wheel itself.
^^^ This. There is a huge difference between building a wall/diffuser to make picnics more comfortable in a place that will be windswept for the next few years, and being concerned about the structural viability of a steel structure mounted on a huge chunk of buried, poured-in-place, reinforced concrete. A structure that - again - survived decades of hanging on a pier over the ocean.
Tying the wind wall to structural concerns about the wheel is like suggesting that since they also have a sun shelter for picnics we should be concerned that the wheel might melt.
Everybody understands that there is a giant Ferris wheel that stands 24/7/365 at the Texas State Fairgrounds, right? And one on Navy Pier in The Windy City, jutting into Lake Michigan?
David 04-27-2016, 08:12 AM As the person who brought up the wind wall, I'm not saying I think the Oklahoma wind is going to come along and blow the wheel over into the river. I was just asking, no need to get all hyperbolic.
Urbanized 04-27-2016, 08:18 AM The idea of it blowing over has most certainly been suggested.
Urbanized 04-27-2016, 08:20 AM This (less substantial) wheel on the Jersey Shore survived despite everything around it being smashed by Hurricane Sandy (and being on much less substantial footing):
http://41.media.tumblr.com/a34536b9f6bae4ac5e14b509980849be/tumblr_n0l4q885PJ1sp7x5mo1_1280.jpg
David 04-27-2016, 08:21 AM The idea of it blowing over has most certainly been suggested.
Yes, but those suggesting it did not mention the wind wall.
Multiple people are participating in this thread, and they are saying different things.
Urbanized 04-27-2016, 08:24 AM I was at Wheeler for a little bit during the raising of the wheel. The wind was whipping pretty good. I wouldn't have wanted to picnic there - at least until the wind wall and associated improvements were up - but wouldn't have thought twice about going up on the wheel.
Urbanized 04-27-2016, 08:36 AM Yes, but those suggesting it did not mention the wind wall.
Multiple people are participating in this thread, and they are saying different things.
While I understand that, your exact meaning was unclear from your post. That's why TexanOkie responded the way he did, too.
One thing about Ferris Wheels, since they're basically just a steel skeleton, there's not much for the wind to catch on. It's not like a billboard or anything that has a huge flat surface to catch the wind. A Ferris Wheel is mostly empty space that the wind could go right through with no problems.
jccouger 04-27-2016, 11:22 AM The lighting is going to look great from I40. Especially since it will be reflected on the river as well.
dankrutka 05-05-2016, 11:43 AM https://twitter.com/wheelercrit/status/728039912474185728
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Bullbear 05-16-2016, 12:05 PM http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/okcsign.jpg
Hugh Meade posted a pic of the "OKC" sculpture. almost finished still needs paint.
Laramie 05-16-2016, 12:48 PM 12579
Hugh Meade posted a pic of the "OKC" sculpture. almost finished still needs paint.
Excited because this will be an impressive piece of all the parts that improve the overall cosmetic structure pieces in our city (the Arts) along with the nearly completed Land Run Monument. The recently completed Riversport Rapids (a potential tourist attraction).
http://cdn2.newsok.biz/cache/sq100-2805611d130eefd824ef91c4a5828fda.jpg https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/a8/40/bd/a840bd467a533202d4740ca3c84d60a0.jpg http://s3-media4.fl.yelpcdn.com/ephoto/Kj7EoNTZ7P38qkqm_XOOUw/300s.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/b5/44/dd/b544dde35876f726cf9cf330195672d6.jpg https://localtvkfor.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/center.jpeg?w=370&h=204&crop=1
These are the pieces along with the upgrades & improvements on the Bricktown Canal; eventually to be followed-up with the Central Park, Street Car, Santa Fe Intermodal Hub, Wellness Centers, AICCM, Convention Center & Convention Center Conference Hotel that will help mold OKC in the realm that solidifies us as a true 'BIG LEAGUE CITY.'
OKCisOK4me 05-16-2016, 02:25 PM We hope the Santa Fe Intermodal Hub...may come to a stop if the state stops Amtrak...smh.
Anonymous. 05-16-2016, 02:32 PM That OKC sculpture is awesome. Wish it was possible to be left as bare metal.
It's installed (from https://twitter.com/oddfab):
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjBaTWWUUAA5qXu.jpg
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