Wood said other cities, including Oklahoma City, Tulsa and Ardmore, are developing industrial complexes using public funds to get those sites in place. He said if Norman doesn’t do the same, or at least consider it, they risk being left behind.

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[QUOTE=G.Walker;332147]Relocate America released it top 100 cities to live in 2010, Tulsa came in 6th, and Norman was also listed in top 100, OKC not listed, what is wrong with this picture?

One thing that comes to mind is that Tulsa has two nationally recognized museums, Dallas/FW at least a dozen between them, OKC none.

Once again, I've got to ask: at what point did Relocate America become the website visited by everyone on this board?

Some people go ballistic whenever the T-word is mentioned favorably, as though life in Soonerland were some sort of zero-sum game: every time you put something in Tulsa, you've effectively taken away something from Oklahoma City.

These people need their medications adjusted.

I am in complete agreement with windowphobe's statement. Oklahoma will not be able to reach its maxmium potential if the two largest metros continue to wish misfortunate for each. This same type of amonosity can be found between Greater Detriot vs. Western Michigan (AKA... Grand Rapids Metro)

I am in complete agreement with windowphobe's statement. Oklahoma will not be able to reach its maxmium potential if the two largest metros continue to wish misfortunate for each. This same type of amonosity can be found between Greater Detriot vs. Western Michigan (AKA... Grand Rapids Metro)

Yes and look how that's worked out for them. Good examples to follow would be Tennessee (Memphis/Nashville) and North Carolina (Charlotte/Research Triangle). Each city should push the other to be better.

I am in complete agreement with windowphobe's statement. Oklahoma will not be able to reach its maxmium potential if the two largest metros continue to wish misfortunate for each. This same type of amonosity can be found between Greater Detriot vs. Western Michigan (AKA... Grand Rapids Metro)

Yup...I'm glad Tulsa made the list, I live in a Tulsa suburb. I'm also upset and puzzled that OKC did not make the list. My wife and I have spent extensive time in both metro's and we both agree OKC>Tulsa but we do like both.

Skyrick, I know you probably want to believe Tulsa has 2 "nationally known" museums to OKC's none, but that is a Tulsa ego speaking. Philbrook is well respected and a favorite of mine...but very limited. It has some recognition nationally, but not much.

OKC's Western Heritage Museum is at least as well known as Philbrook but focuses on a different demographic. It's collection of significant art is impressive, though not European centric nor renaissance style. OKCMOA is drawing exhibitions all the equal to, if not superior to those the Philbrook is showcasing, and has been much more diversified. I encourage to to do more research.

The Noble museum at OU is very well respected, as is the Fred Jones. If you haven't been to either or both, they you have no clue as to what you are missing.

And, the collection of valuable and significant art at UCO is impressive.

So, don't take a 1960 view of Tulsa vs. OKC that most Tulsans want to hang onto. Actually travel to OKC and see for yourself, if you have the courage.

Just went to Tulsa on a Friday about two weeks ago. I just don't get the fascination. Dowtown was dead during the day and the night...the more "hip" areas were OK, but nowhere in comparison to Bricktown. They just don't have anything like Bricktown. One thing people seem to forget about Tulsa...the big nasty refineries just southwest of downtown. That side of town is horrid, and it's smack in the middle of the city. The roads are attrocious, way outdated. To say that Tulsa is a big Edmond is just nuts. It has nice parts, but all cities have nice parts. The area is improving, but not on pace with OKC. OKC has set the pace.

Norman, Oklahoma City, Stillwater, Tulsa...they all have one thing in common: Elvin Bishop's, "Oklahoma Country Girl."

Skyrick, I know you probably want to believe Tulsa has 2 "nationally known" museums to OKC's none, but that is a Tulsa ego speaking. Philbrook is well respected and a favorite of mine...but very limited. It has some recognition nationally, but not much.

OKC's Western Heritage Museum is at least as well known as Philbrook but focuses on a different demographic. It's collection of significant art is impressive, though not European centric nor renaissance style. OKCMOA is drawing exhibitions all the equal to, if not superior to those the Philbrook is showcasing, and has been much more diversified. I encourage to to do more research.

The Noble museum at OU is very well respected, as is the Fred Jones. If you haven't been to either or both, they you have no clue as to what you are missing.

And, the collection of valuable and significant art at UCO is impressive.

So, don't take a 1960 view of Tulsa vs. OKC that most Tulsans want to hang onto. Actually travel to OKC and see for yourself, if you have the courage.

The Cowboy Museum is nationally reknown for Western art and so is Gilcrease in Tulsa. Both are major attractions and two of the best places in the country to see that type of art, and people come from all over to see them. Gilcrease in Tulsa also has an outstanding Native American collection.

OKCMOA and Philbrook seem to be on the same level as far as collections go with OKCMOA having more contemporary art including the fantastic Chihuly glass and Philbrook having more 18th/19th century European art, and its gardens and sculptures. Both get really good traveling exhibits from time to time. The Visual Arts Center proposed for the Brady District in Tulsa will have more contemporary art and part of the Adkins Native American art collection, while the other part will be at Fred Jones. Fred Jones is a smaller museum but one of the best university art museums in the country and, IMO, the top attraction in Norman besides the university itself.

Just went to Tulsa on a Friday about two weeks ago. I just don't get the fascination. Dowtown was dead during the day and the night...the more "hip" areas were OK, but nowhere in comparison to Bricktown. They just don't have anything like Bricktown. One thing people seem to forget about Tulsa...the big nasty refineries just southwest of downtown. That side of town is horrid, and it's smack in the middle of the city. The roads are attrocious, way outdated. To say that Tulsa is a big Edmond is just nuts. It has nice parts, but all cities have nice parts. The area is improving, but not on pace with OKC. OKC has set the pace.

That is true, there is nothing like Bricktown currently in Tulsa. The area around the ballpark could be similar someday but not in its current form. One major difference between OKC and Tulsa is OKC is more downtown-centric while Tulsa is more midtown-centric, as in Tulsa's midtown is far more vibrant than downtown.