ThePlainsman
05-25-2010, 12:16 PM
These are such a crock. Hoyasooner nailed it above. I don't doubt that we have plenty of unfit people, but it pisses me off every time we get some dubious distinction like this because of some bs "statistics".
View Full Version : America's Fattest City of 2010 is............. ThePlainsman 05-25-2010, 12:16 PM These are such a crock. Hoyasooner nailed it above. I don't doubt that we have plenty of unfit people, but it pisses me off every time we get some dubious distinction like this because of some bs "statistics". Kerry 05-25-2010, 12:22 PM I wonder what OKC ranking is for literacy. The survey was for fittest cities. Peach fuzz 05-25-2010, 01:04 PM Well consider this Peach fuzz... It also is very expensive to develop health problems associated with obesity such as diabetes, heart disease, hypertension etc...the cost of health insurance coverage will continue to soar if OKC does not get a hold on their obese ways. If your comparing costs of food and stating people cannot afford to eat healthy then perhaps they can get a second job or they can go to college and get a degree so they can afford to eat healthy. To me it sounds like your justifying and making excuses for OKC huge obesity problem. Do some homework. With OKC having a high poverty rate "per capita" and laughable wages compared to the nation, it's not an excuse its a valid point... And Subway isn't healthy? When a person gets to choose whats on his/her sandwhich they are more inclined to eat healthier... Geez maybe you two tubbys should eat a salad, and get of my nuts DirtLaw 05-25-2010, 01:15 PM I wonder what OKC ranking is for literacy. The survey was for fittest cities. Yes, and we were #1 for most sluggish cities ... i.e. most unfit, so I think that makes us the fattest city. okclee 05-25-2010, 01:22 PM I like having the Fattest title, sounds better then sluggish or unfit. In some parts of the world being fat is regal. dmoor82 05-25-2010, 01:24 PM OKC is America's Fattest MAJOR city,We are NOT THE FATTEST CITY in America! okclee 05-25-2010, 01:28 PM OKC is America's Fattest MAJOR city,We are NOT THE FATTEST CITY in America! Not yet! but I am working on that, give me time. Bunty 05-25-2010, 01:33 PM Folks, shape up or ship out. Enough talk. Get inspired. Do this program. No, it's obviously not easy, though: slQ2KtOU8CY OKCisOK4me 05-25-2010, 01:34 PM My friend asked me the other day, "so what did you REALLY do to lose those 35 pounds?" I replied in simple fashion, "the same thing I've told everyone else. Worked out a minimum of 4 days per week for at least an hour, and rode my bike around Lake Hefner one lap once a week. If you ride around that lake, 9.5 mile route and--not gonna say I push it--do it in 35 minutes, I think that's decent enough." I went from 240 to 205 on a 6' 6" frame, and I know I can lose more, it'll just take more work. I've fluctuated since that main weight loss to as low as 196lbs, which was just last week. That felt good, getting under 200. Oh, and I do rotate on Taco Bell, Braums, Cici's Pizza, & Subway from week to week while also eating healthy at home so I'll blame eating habits and lack of exercise to those that help us win this title! soonerguru 05-25-2010, 02:02 PM Snack wrap=processed crap BBQ sauce=pure sugar You NEED fat in your diet, EVEN SATURATED. Ranch is not killing you, BBQ sauce is. Beef is good for you. Braums and McDonalds chicken sandwhiches are NEVER money well spent. Their buns are pure processed poison. I agree. The chicken "products" at fast food restaurants are not chicken. They're some bizarre amalgam of chicken-based food products, that are then deep fried. They are horrible for you. The Chicken McNugget's at McD's are worse for you than a 1/4 Pounder. Stop eating fast food. soonerguru 05-25-2010, 02:05 PM I'm sure you could live like that... but who would want to? "There are lies, damned lies, and then there are statistics." -Mark Twain The problem with studies like this is that they aren't scientific in the slightest. "America's fattest city". Hah. Take a look at those numbers again. Pay particular attention to the percentage of overweight citizens and the percentage of active citizens that they list next to each city. You'll notice that OKC has both a lower percentage of overweight citizens and a higher percentage of active citizens than the city right below us (presumably "thinner" than us). The problem is, they are calculating in the number of gyms, percentage of park land, number of fast food restaurants, and other factors that have nothing to do with actual obesity. Oklahoma City has a relatively low population density. There is a lot of green space, but few actual parks in the city, especially as a percentage of land area. Contrast this with Washington DC, which has a very dense population (heh heh). DC is filled to the brim with national parks. This doesn't mean people exercise, it just means there are a lot of parks. When it comes to fast food restaurants, DC eats just as unhealthily as OKC does. The difference is, everyone there is close together, so you don't need as many physical locations. The ones in DC are just more crowded. A McDonalds that has 1000 customers a day is just as unhealthy as two McDonalds that each have 500 customers a day. Thing is, basing your calculations off those numbers, without analyzing the differences between cities, will give you false results. I'm not saying OKC is the thinnest place in the world, but I've been to other cities, and we don't particularly stand out as being any fatter. True, but people in Washington, D.C. WALK places. We do not have a pedestrian-oriented environment in OKC, and I'm starting to wonder if the planners, developers and political leaders here have any clue how to create one. Spartan 05-25-2010, 02:22 PM They do not. okclee 05-25-2010, 02:39 PM How would everyone feel about a "fast food tax"? The money could be put into the state health department, funding for parks, sidewalks and maintenance, diabetes prevention, or education for health. Just like the state heavily taxes alcohol and tobacco. DirtLaw 05-25-2010, 02:48 PM How would everyone feel about a "fast food tax"? The money could be put into the state health department, funding for parks, sidewalks and maintenance, diabetes prevention, or education for health. Just like the state heavily taxes alcohol and tobacco. I think it would be a great idea! SkyWestOKC 05-25-2010, 03:06 PM I would be against that. It's up to the people, not the state. Kerry 05-25-2010, 03:18 PM Yes, and we were #1 for most sluggish cities ... i.e. most unfit, so I think that makes us the fattest city. No OKC wasn't. It ranked at the bottom of all the cities in the "Fittest Cities" list. Are you saying if they did a survey of the fattest cities they would use the exact same criteria and just invert the results? I don't think they would. I was in a survey of smartest people with Einstein, Hawking, and Sagan. I came in last. That doesn't make me stupid. People finish last in the Olympics, it doesn’t make them slow. I understand some of you are self-haters but you should at least find a valid reason for being a self-hater. No need to make stuff up. Stan Silliman 05-25-2010, 03:38 PM There should be benefits from being named America's Fattest City. I haven't figured them all out yet but they'll come. Perhaps a movie: "New Fat City" Continue the "Saving Grace" TV series where Grace Hanadarko balloons up to 200 pounds and her guardian angel gets hooked on Earl's ribs and has to contend with BBQ sauce on his wings. A big spring company comes into town to specially equip new cars all our fat citizens are buying. Theaters with extra wide chairs for fat-a$$es will be test marketed in OKC. Could be the Cinemax. We put the Max in Cinemax. Brickashaw Trikes will do double duty by hiring obese trike peddlers promising they'll lose weight while working. If it works and it's documented to help the driver's reduce Mr. Pippen can expand his "Fatties on Three Wheelers" by franchising it to cities throughout the midwest. I'll come back with more ideas later. Behind every fat cloud there's some silver ready to line your pocket... or something like that. DirtLaw 05-25-2010, 03:46 PM No OKC wasn't. It ranked at the bottom of all the cities in the "Fittest Cities" list. Are you saying if they did a survey of the fattest cities they would use the exact same criteria and just invert the results? I don't think they would. I was in a survey of smartest people with Einstein, Hawking, and Sagan. I came in last. That doesn't make me stupid. People finish last in the Olympics, it doesn’t make them slow. I understand some of you are self-haters but you should at least find a valid reason for being a self-hater. No need to make stuff up. In Depth: America's 10 Most Sluggish Cities PreviousNext Share Twitter Facebook Digg It! RSS Email iStockCLOSE No. 1: Oklahoma City, Okla. Score: 24.3 Obesity Rate: 30.2% Exercise Rate: 71.0% The most sluggish city in the U.S. has many dubious distinctions: one-third as much park land as most cities; an obesity rate four points above the average; half as many baseball diamonds, rec centers and dog parks as a typical city. I am not sure if that copy and past came out correct, but it CLEARLY states that we were the #1 most sluggish city ... not sure how that translates to me making stuff up?? Laramie 05-25-2010, 04:22 PM What price does being named the "Fattest City in America" carry in weight: Nothing! I still say that DALLAS has more FAT FOLKS than Oklahoma City! Look at the number of fast food/restaurant establishments which has closed in Dallas lately for all those fat folk employees eating up all the profits! OU Adonis 05-25-2010, 04:25 PM I think a lot of it is perception when it comes to weight. I have some larger friends. I dropped about 15 pounds and got down to around 177ish from 192. I am 6'1 tall. They kept telling me how unhealthy and skinny I looked. But 177 isn't skinny for a 6'1 guy, they are just used to larger people. In fact almost all of their friends are larger. Bunty 05-25-2010, 05:33 PM I bet Tulsa isn't all that high up there for lack of fitness because they have a prettier environment to exercise in. betts 05-25-2010, 06:44 PM True, but people in Washington, D.C. WALK places. We do not have a pedestrian-oriented environment in OKC, and I'm starting to wonder if the planners, developers and political leaders here have any clue how to create one. Sidewalks are a start. It's hard to walk without sidewalks. I've been thinking about this one, because until I moved downtown, I hopped in my car to go four blocks without thinking about it. Now, I always think: is it far enough to drive? One of the reasons, I think, is that parking is a pain in the neck downtown and in Bricktown, not to mention expensive. I've noticed the same thing when I visit my daughters in Chicago. In their neighborhood, parking spaces are at a premium. When you find one, you think carefully before giving it up. So, it's a lot easier for them to walk to the bus than to drive and try to find parking where they're going and again when they return home. So, our massive parking lots with a plethora of parking spaces we have around town are a definite factor making it easy for people to drive. Then, I said, "walk to the bus" above. You've got to have a destination if you're going to walk. Bricktown and downtown are nice destinations for me, and we've got lots of cute little commercial areas around town from times when people walked more that are being rehabbed, with many more with potential. If you've got a few restaurants and a coffee shop a few blocks away, or even better that plus retail, that makes an appealing destination. Mass transit a few blocks away makes another appealing destination. So, we have to have places for people to walk, close enough that they can walk in a reasonable period of time, difficult parking and sidewalks on which to walk. We've got some things happening that will make this a more walkable city in the future, I think. OU Adonis 05-25-2010, 06:48 PM It doesn't help when people are just plain lazy. For example this happens all the time. I will be in a parking lot and see a car go through 3 or 4 isles trying to get 20 feet closer to the door. They spend 5 minutes getting closer to the door instead of just parking and spending those 5 minutes walking. That is lazy. Peach fuzz 05-25-2010, 07:02 PM Culture Culture Culture... here its seems "trashy" to walk to the bus stop and ride the bus. In other cities it's part of every day life from sugar daddys to crack heads. dismayed 05-25-2010, 07:48 PM Rather than a fast food tax, I would prefer to see our city government address this by adding more sidewalks, increasing landscaping and tree cover in the metro, creating more outdoor spaces from amphitheaters to sporting parks, and giving tax incentives to businesses that develop with a focus on mixed-use pedestrian-friendly development as opposed to a giant big box surrounded by a sea of concrete. soonerguru 05-25-2010, 07:52 PM How would everyone feel about a "fast food tax"? The money could be put into the state health department, funding for parks, sidewalks and maintenance, diabetes prevention, or education for health. Just like the state heavily taxes alcohol and tobacco. I'm a HUGE proponent of this idea. The trouble is, how would restaurants be defined as "fast food?" Would they have to have a drive-thru to qualify? SkyWestOKC 05-25-2010, 07:59 PM I eat fast food and am healthy? Why should I be punished by paying a higher price? You (proponents of this) also cite monetary reasons why people eat fast food. Let's drive up the cost of the food they can afford...that's a great idea. How about offering tax incentives to restaurants and grocery stores who offer a healthy selection of food, but in order to qualify they must prove they pass on the incentives to the customer through lower price. What happens if I order something just as bad but through a non-fast food restaurant? For example, the 1 lb burger at Nik's in downtown? Do I receive the tax also? Who defines what is healthy, who defines what is fast-food, slow-food, or medium-speed food? What about the frozen food in stores, let's tax it too? Once it starts, this will get huge in a very negative way. rcjunkie 05-25-2010, 08:52 PM Rather than a fast food tax, I would prefer to see our city government address this by adding more sidewalks, increasing landscaping and tree cover in the metro, creating more outdoor spaces from amphitheaters to sporting parks, and giving tax incentives to businesses that develop with a focus on mixed-use pedestrian-friendly development as opposed to a giant big box surrounded by a sea of concrete. I agree with the need for more sidewalks with trees/landscaping, outdoor spaces, etc;, however, we will need to find a way to generate tax dollars so that the City can properly maintain such areas. Bunty 05-26-2010, 12:14 AM How would everyone feel about a "fast food tax"? The money could be put into the state health department, funding for parks, sidewalks and maintenance, diabetes prevention, or education for health. Just like the state heavily taxes alcohol and tobacco. The reason why you are so right is because California was one of the first states to raise taxes on cigarettes. As a result the cancer rate went down. Later in California it was decided that smoking in bars and restaurants had to be banned because workers in such places were getting cancer from second hand smoke. Putting a tax on unhealthy junk food is not a bad idea. It would definitely make me eat less of it. Because the fat that eating too much junk food brings on can help cause health problems, such as heart disease, high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes, stroke, and gall bladder disease to name some. Those who are bitterly opposed to such a tax are so profoundly wrong, it's pitiful. If they got bellies that stick out big and huge, then I'm not in the least surprised. ljbab728 05-26-2010, 12:41 AM I'm a HUGE proponent of this idea. The trouble is, how would restaurants be defined as "fast food?" Would they have to have a drive-thru to qualify? I think this is a ridiculous idea. Most fast food locations now have a number of healthy items on their menus. Do we now have to decide which menu items have an extra tax? Having a nutrition listing for the menu items should be sufficient. Try looking at the nutritional values of the menu at the Cheesecake Factory. It would never be considered fast food but is always cited as one of the worst. There are numerous televsion shows that are fast food for the mind. Should we put an extra tax on those also? There has to be some limit on government intrusion into controlling our lives and protecting us from ourselves by taxation. oneforone 05-26-2010, 03:33 AM I am not for any kind of tax or government regulation what I eat and how often/how much I eat of it. If it was not for the overspending and deep debts our governments constantly maintain, this would be a non-issue. The drug problem is a perfect example of how government regulation does not work. A person can lose everything they own and spend decades and jail for drug offenses. Yet, people still do them everyday and every person in the United States knows someone who is using or selling illegal drugs. I think health insurance should be behavior priced just like auto insurance is priced. If you eat right, excercise and follow your physcians orders you should pay very little. If you eat like pig, drink like a fish and smoke like a diesel truck and blow off your doc's advice you should pay high rates. Just like a person how has had mulitple accidents and moving violations does on auto insurance policy. Ezrablum 05-26-2010, 03:56 AM I work in the restaurant business. Oklahoman's are so proud of ordering xtra ranch dressing and getting gravy on their mashed potatoes. The serving of ranch given with the salad is plenty, people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No need to drown that stuff. Totally outdoing any good you would have done in having a salad in the first place. mooshie 05-26-2010, 06:04 AM I work in the restaurant business. Oklahoman's are so proud of ordering xtra ranch dressing and getting gravy on their mashed potatoes. The serving of ranch given with the salad is plenty, people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No need to drown that stuff. Totally outdoing any good you would have done in having a salad in the first place. I'll have a cup of ranch with a side of salad. betts 05-26-2010, 07:28 AM I work in the restaurant business. Oklahoman's are so proud of ordering xtra ranch dressing and getting gravy on their mashed potatoes. The serving of ranch given with the salad is plenty, people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No need to drown that stuff. Totally outdoing any good you would have done in having a salad in the first place. It's about more than that. It's about portion sizes. We can thank McDonald's for the supersize. Now everyone feels cheated if they don't get more for their money. Restaurants compete by offering more at a cheaper price. We grew up thinking it was wrong not to clean our plates and so we eat until the plate is clean. I have a friend who lived in Japan for awhile. She told me that what we consider one portionhere, in Japan would feed an entire family. They're thin there, on the whole. We need to do more ordering of one entree and sharing it with another person. soonerguru 05-26-2010, 11:29 AM I think this is a ridiculous idea. Most fast food locations now have a number of healthy items on their menus. Do we now have to decide which menu items have an extra tax? Having a nutrition listing for the menu items should be sufficient. Try looking at the nutritional values of the menu at the Cheesecake Factory. It would never be considered fast food but is always cited as one of the worst. There are numerous televsion shows that are fast food for the mind. Should we put an extra tax on those also? There has to be some limit on government intrusion into controlling our lives and protecting us from ourselves by taxation. This is an excellent point. My wife and I were talking about the fact that it's chain restaurants in general -- not just fast food places -- that are bad. When you see the list of bad foods that came out yesterday, the places featured were PF Chang's, On The Border, Cheesecake Factory, etc. I had the fish tacos at On the Border, because I thought they would be healthier (no cheese, no sour cream, etc.). Turns out they ended up on the list. If you want to eat "healthy," cook your own food or just go to places like Coolgreens. Jesseda 05-26-2010, 11:56 AM WOW I MEAN WOW Our city wasnt prepared to win.. We would like to thank all the fast food restaurants out there in the city, also we would like to thank all the restaurants who gives us larger than normal portions. We would like to thank the weather for being to cold or to hot to excercise outside. still in shock that we won ohh myy mmmmm , i would like to thank mom and dad for teaching me how to eat, my co-workers for going out for lunch every day.. I really would like to thank my sister for showing me how good it is to put lots of strawberrry jelly on my mcdonalds $1.00 mcmuffins and work pants that have elastic giveway.. Without all this we would not have the honer in coming in first place.. Thank you, got to go now heading off to sonic for happy hour.. Laramie 05-26-2010, 11:56 AM I work in the restaurant business. Oklahoman's are so proud of ordering xtra ranch dressing and getting gravy on their mashed potatoes. The serving of ranch given with the salad is plenty, people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No need to drown that stuff. Totally outdoing any good you would have done in having a salad in the first place. Good point! It's the portions we eat that cause us to put on weight and crave for more... "Oh, I'll have a salad for lunch;" hell, you're not going to lose weight if you pile on the bacon bits, diced ham bits, croutons, ranch, mushrooms, shredded cheese, oil & vinegar. You would have been better off eating a whole turkey leg for the calories produced from that salad compound. Stay healthly folks and stay away from the hospitals--you'll live a lot longer. oneforone 05-26-2010, 11:02 PM It's about more than that. It's about portion sizes. We can thank McDonald's for the supersize. Now everyone feels cheated if they don't get more for their money. Restaurants compete by offering more at a cheaper price. We grew up thinking it was wrong not to clean our plates and so we eat until the plate is clean. I have a friend who lived in Japan for awhile. She told me that what we consider one portionhere, in Japan would feed an entire family. They're thin there, on the whole. We need to do more ordering of one entree and sharing it with another person. The clean your plate rule was altered somewhere along the way from what it meant at my family's table. Clean your plate did not mean pile enough on your plate to feed an army then finish it. At my family table the Clean Your Plate rule meant, no seconds, no dessert, until you ate your veggies and everything else on the orginal serving. We were taught to never let your eyes overload your stomach. Have a reasonable portion first and seconds of the same size serving if you finish everything else. Fast Food/Dining Out was only once or twice over a two week period. It was not a nightly thing to say the least. I think if more people applied that rule we would be better off. The reason why we have so many overweight people these days is the lack of activity. The internet, cell phones, and other technology have made us pretty lazy. People think in order to get in shape you have to join a gym and hire a personal trainer. There are two easy steps to wait loss, eat less and move around more. Doctors have said for years that eating healthy and taking a one hour brisk walk every day is all most people need to stay fit. ljbab728 05-27-2010, 12:45 AM This is an excellent point. My wife and I were talking about the fact that it's chain restaurants in general -- not just fast food places -- that are bad. When you see the list of bad foods that came out yesterday, the places featured were PF Chang's, On The Border, Cheesecake Factory, etc. I had the fish tacos at On the Border, because I thought they would be healthier (no cheese, no sour cream, etc.). Turns out they ended up on the list. If you want to eat "healthy," cook your own food or just go to places like Coolgreens. The key is moderation. Going out to eat and splurging once a week won't kill you. But a daily diet of that kind of food will. Bunty 05-27-2010, 01:52 AM Rather than a fast food tax, I would prefer to see our city government address this by adding more sidewalks, increasing landscaping and tree cover in the metro, creating more outdoor spaces from amphitheaters to sporting parks, and giving tax incentives to businesses that develop with a focus on mixed-use pedestrian-friendly development as opposed to a giant big box surrounded by a sea of concrete. Higher prices on junk food thru taxes or prices works super for me. Since Wal-Mart took out their .25 soda pop machines I don't buy it any more. Their machines now want .75. Larry OKC 05-27-2010, 02:12 AM ...Who defines what is healthy, who defines what is fast-food, slow-food, or medium-speed food? What about the frozen food in stores, let's tax it too? Once it starts, this will get huge in a very negative way. Agreed and the short answer (to everything it seems today) is the Government. Anything that exceeds the Gov's established recommended daily amount (or proportionate serving size thereof) gets taxed. If it contains trans fats (there is no safe recommended amount), then those type of things get taxed too. Every violation of the guidelines would end up with another tax (lets say if a product exceeded the sodium, sugar and fats, then there would be 3 taxes on that product). Then the Gov will have to establish what a serving size is. Not uncommon for a manufacture to adjust the amount of servings/serving size for a product to get the numbers per serving to seem reasonable. Years ago, McDonald's was one of the first to publish their nutritional facts in the store. When it came to the salad dressings, each packet contained the same amount (something like 1 fluid oz), all of the dressings seemed pretty good. When it came to the Blue Cheese dressing they seemed really good but instead of 1 serving, each packet contained 5 servings. One of the problems I saw a report on recently was that (think it was NYC) that has a tax on candy but if the candy contains flour (any amount) it isn't taxed. This kind of insanity can run amuck. Years ago, some were warning that this was coming and sure enough, it is happening. Bostonfan 05-28-2010, 08:14 AM Why people choose to be fat is beyond me. Is there something great about being fat and out of shape that I'm missing? DirtLaw 05-28-2010, 08:17 AM Why people choose to be fat is beyond me. Is there something great about being fat and out of shape that I'm missing? I just think that people get into a vicious lazy cycle and the work that it would take to break the habit is too much for them to even think about. Being fat is much easier to some than being fit. I am with you though, I do not know how people do it. If I go several days without going to the gym before work I feel awful. BG918 05-28-2010, 08:55 AM why people choose to be fat is beyond me. Is there something great about being fat and out of shape that i'm missing? +1 Bunty 05-28-2010, 11:32 AM Why people choose to be fat is beyond me. Is there something great about being fat and out of shape that I'm missing? Hey, ever been to the Texas Roadhouse and just had to ask for another plate of rolls? That's why. Food can taste so dreamingly wonderful, it's hard to get enough of it. betts 05-28-2010, 11:37 AM Food can be an addiction like anything else. Bostonfan 05-28-2010, 12:07 PM Hey, ever been to the Texas Roadhouse and just had to ask for another plate of rolls? That's why. Food can taste so dreamingly wonderful, it's hard to get enough of it. Yes, and if I do, I exercise even more. You either be careful of what you eat, or you work your ass off to get rid of it. You don't go to the "all you can eat" restaurants then come home and sit in front of the tv or computer, then wonder why you are fat. It's common sense, something that has escaped many people. Bostonfan 05-28-2010, 12:09 PM Food can be an addiction like anything else. Just an excuse. betts 05-28-2010, 01:12 PM Just an excuse. I didn't say it was an excuse. I was just saying that these people's brains are primed and they crave food. It probably releases endorphins when they eat fatty foods (don't know for sure, just guessing) and so they crave that sensation. It's probably something that starts in childhood, and the amount of fast food we have available primes that addiction. Clearly, no one wants to be that fat or enjoys it. But, I think it's simplistic to say they can just decide not to be fat and .....poof....they develop the willpower and work ethic. But, one of the problems with Oklahoma City goes back to our car driven society. We drive to fast food restaurants and then we drive home and sit on the couch and watch television. We drive four blocks to the convenience store or the grocery store. We drive four blocks to a friend's house because we've never thought about walking. Walking burns calories and keeps you away from the refrigerator while you're doing it. Bostonfan 05-28-2010, 09:19 PM I didn't say it was an excuse. I was just saying that these people's brains are primed and they crave food. It probably releases endorphins when they eat fatty foods (don't know for sure, just guessing) and so they crave that sensation. It's probably something that starts in childhood, and the amount of fast food we have available primes that addiction. Clearly, no one wants to be that fat or enjoys it. But, I think it's simplistic to say they can just decide not to be fat and .....poof....they develop the willpower and work ethic. But, one of the problems with Oklahoma City goes back to our car driven society. We drive to fast food restaurants and then we drive home and sit on the couch and watch television. We drive four blocks to the convenience store or the grocery store. We drive four blocks to a friend's house because we've never thought about walking. Walking burns calories and keeps you away from the refrigerator while you're doing it. Yeah, I understand what you're saying. I would disagree though when you say it's obvious no one wants to be fat or enjoys it. I'm not sure why they would want to be, but let's get real, it doesn't take a whole lot to understand what needs to be done to get healthy. If they really didn't want to be fat, in most cases, people know what they need to do, but choose to be fat. Peach fuzz 05-28-2010, 09:37 PM When I see huge people at restaurants I kind of get annoyed and I'm always thinking rude things in my head. I know its bad for me to think some of the crap but damn, it angers me that they don't care and yet continue to endulge okclee 05-28-2010, 10:37 PM I titled this thread Fattest City, but in fact we are the "Unhealthiest" City on this list. This includes smoking and a city that doesn't exercise much. ljbab728 05-29-2010, 12:59 AM Yeah, I understand what you're saying. I would disagree though when you say it's obvious no one wants to be fat or enjoys it. I'm not sure why they would want to be, but let's get real, it doesn't take a whole lot to understand what needs to be done to get healthy. If they really didn't want to be fat, in most cases, people know what they need to do, but choose to be fat. Boston, you're over simplifying things. Certainly some people do make lifestyle decisions that lead to being overweight but many people are just genetically inclined to be overweight no matter what they do. Those people may require surgery to help their situation but that is considered elective and many can't afford to do that. I think you've watched too many episodes of "Biggest Loser". Bostonfan 05-29-2010, 06:37 AM Boston, you're over simplifying things. Certainly some people do make lifestyle decisions that lead to being overweight but many people are just genetically inclined to be overweight no matter what they do. Those people may require surgery to help their situation but that is considered elective and many can't afford to do that. I think you've watched too many episodes of "Biggest Loser". Sorry, but this is total bull****. Not over simplifying things at all. Just go out one night. It is amazing to sit and watch as overweight people feed their faces like they haven't eaten in weeks. Just to go home and take a nap in front of the tv. I guess they all need surgery huh? oneforone 05-29-2010, 07:27 AM Sorry, but this is total bull****. Not over simplifying things at all. Just go out one night. It is amazing to sit and watch as overweight people feed their faces like they haven't eaten in weeks. Just to go home and take a nap in front of the tv. I guess they all need surgery huh? You talk a lot of trash my friend. I am just wondering if you would say half the things you post on here to a person's face. Chances are more than likely you that you would not say anything harsh out fear of getting your teeth knocked down to your large intestine. Most of the fat people your bashing would probably chase you down, sit on you and cut nice ripe fart in your face just for good humor. For the record... I am not fat I am fit. I think people need to be left alone. If you want to be fit...fine. If you want to be fat that is fine too. Just understand the health risks you face and don't whine about the cost of medical care later on down the road. Larry OKC 05-29-2010, 07:39 AM Why are more Oklahoman's genetically predisposed? (If that is the reason). Not saying it is or isn't and am sure there are a myriad of reasons why we are fat. Some is genetics, some is lack of exercise, some is over eating, food addiction, etc etc. Once you get to a certain point though, surgery may be the only answer for some. We live in an instant society and few realize that it often took years or decades of a certain lifestyle for you to get that way, and it isn't going to fix itself in a few days or weeks. Unless some extreme measures are taken. Most agree that rapid weight loss isn't healthy and the gradual approach (avg of a half to a full pound a week) is the healthier way of doing it. But seeing such gradual progress (and don't forget where some weeks you don't lose anything and even some where you gain) can be frustrating and lead to failure. Most studies on any diet plan show that more weight is gained back after than what was lost. There aren't really any quick fixes, has to be a fundamental lifestyle change. Even those that have had the surgery, if they aren't extremely careful, will gain it back. I remember reading once that once a fat cell is created it is ALWAYS there. it might be empty or full, but the cell itself is there constantly (and much easier for the body to just refill it than to create and fill it). emw1973 05-29-2010, 09:26 AM I think I'll celebrate OKC's victory with 40 cheeseburgers, 63 cokes, and a side of 92 chilli cheese fries. okclee 05-29-2010, 10:25 AM I think I'll celebrate OKC's victory with 40 cheeseburgers, 63 cokes, and a side of 92 chilli cheese fries. Don't forget your 2 cartons of GPC's. Casey 05-29-2010, 01:37 PM Snack wrap=processed crap You NEED fat in your diet, EVEN SATURATED. Actually, no. There is no recommended daily instake of saturated fat. You need monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats (think nuts, omega-3s, avocado, etc) but there is no need for saturated fat of any kind. kevinpate 05-29-2010, 04:53 PM It is not complicated to eat healthy when dining out. It is not complicated to eat semi-healthy when dining out. It is also not complicated to eat very unhealthy when dining out. The two main problems are also not complicated. The latter of the above usually tastes better and portion control is very relative. Three huge heaping serving spoons of taters is not A serving, no matter what your granny or Unkie Ray told you when you were growing up. But when prepared well, most folks rely on their memory and not fact, especially if there be a ladle or three of gravy available. I admit it ... I miss Ray sometimes, but I still oughta miss him more than I do. |