could this be the thing to make Dallas jelous?.. ***I'm so sorry I couldn't help myself****

I had put in my address years ago into google fiber when it launched in KC. I did get an email from them yesterday after the announcement saying basically what we have all read. exciting news.

I don't care who had what first and think the bickering by those two is laughable and makes them seem very unprofessional however seeing the reporting they have done I don't really know that being unprofessional is out of the ordinary. I would much rather read OKCTALK than try to go to one of the news webites and be covered in Ads and crap loading and locking up like crazy. Its like buzzfeed at some of those sites.

Rapid expansion: Google Fiber looks at OKC | The Journal Record (http://journalrecord.com/2015/10/28/rapid-expansion-google-fiber-looks-at-okc-general-news/)

I told a friend of mine literally the same exact thing yesterday.

Ditto. Said the same on Reddit.

I know Century Link offers fiber in some markets, is there a difference between what they are offering and what Google is doing? I assume with Google you can get your internet, TV and security bundled?

I know Century Link offers fiber in some markets, is there a difference between what they are offering and what Google is doing? I assume with Google you can get your internet, TV and security bundled?

The cost to bandwidth ratio is the big thing Google is offering. FIOS bundles TV with fiber in the markets it serves.

Also, to comment on something someone said: Fiber connections are pretty common and have been common in most moderately sized cities for years, you just pay out the nose for them. Fiber to the premise is pretty much exclusively a business thing aside from Chattanooga and other municipal services, Google Fiber markets and FIOS markets.

What makes Google Fiber a great thing is that even if your neighborhood doesn't get it for years, it's already putting pressure on the incumbent ISPs to step their game up. If Cox&co follow the lead of TW and AT&T in KC, our bills will go down and our speeds will go up.

Would Cox ever do this if they had such an outage? I know the answer already.

Google Fiber Goes Down in KC, Credits 2 Days Service (http://www.pcmech.com/article/google-fiber-goes-down-in-kc-during-world-series-gives-customers-2-days-credit/)

FWIW Pete I think my gold membership on here gets me more than I ever got paying for the paper back in the day. Keep up the good work.

I'm going to continue to both get and provide information here as well as subscribe to the Oklahoman. It's silly to limit yourself if you are truly interested just to spite someone. I get unhappy both with the Oklahoman and OKCTALK at times, but here and there I am.

Oh she burns him real good.

Newsok is always in a tough spot. They need to be first but they have to be spot on 100%. OKCtalk can get things 75% correct and no one cares.

I agree with your premise but since when is the DOK "spot on" 100%? It is not now nor has it ever been a highly regarded journalistic enterprise.

I know I probably won't see it in Lexington, but I put in my address anyway. Anything is better than dealing with Windstream. My stated speeds are 3/.667 and I only get that when the wind blows right. Streaming is painful!

I agree with your premise but since when is the DOK "spot on" 100%? It is not now nor has it ever been a highly regarded journalistic enterprise.

This 'they always get it right' is another huge myth.

They get things wrong , incomplete and show serious bias all the time, it's just that I'm not obsessed with constantly trying to discredit them as they are with us.

I also never ask or expect people to choose between the two. I'm happy to post their stories, give them credit and fully expect most like reading their stuff; I know I do. It would be nice if they showed us even a shred of the same courtesy.

We've made them better and more important, the news in OKC has become better overall because of this site. Anyone who tries to deny that is just trying to promote a personal agenda and doesn't have the best interest of the commuity at heart.

After reading the Briana Baily tweets, I've decided she's either insecure or jealous. And very unprofessional.

Would Cox ever do this if they had such an outage? I know the answer already.

Google Fiber Goes Down in KC, Credits 2 Days Service (http://www.pcmech.com/article/google-fiber-goes-down-in-kc-during-world-series-gives-customers-2-days-credit/)

Theyy would if you called in and complained about it.

Newsok is jealous of OKCtalk's content & the audience.

Have you ever read the comments on a newsok article? It makes me question why I live here, and then I come to OKCtalk & get to read insight & input from some of the best minds in the city & it makes me proud.

The daily oklahoman is a fraud of a company. They take advantage of college students & force them to do door to door selling & then rip off customers by misleading them to sign up for continuous billing. They have decent sports reporting, and that is the only thing keeping them afloat.

Newsok is jealous of OKCtalk's content & the audience.

Have you ever read the comments on a newsok article? It makes me question why I live here, and then I come to OKCtalk & get to read insight & input from some of the best minds in the city & it makes me proud.

The daily oklahoman is a fraud of a company. They take advantage of college students & force them to do door to door selling & then rip off customers by misleading them to sign up for continuous billing. They have decent sports reporting, and that is the only thing keeping them afloat.

Just a hint, don't spend a second of your life in the comments section of online news articles of any paper. You'll question your existence period.

Newsok is jealous of OKCtalk's content & the audience.

Have you ever read the comments on a newsok article? It makes me question why I live here, and then I come to OKCtalk & get to read insight & input from some of the best minds in the city & it makes me proud.

The daily oklahoman is a fraud of a company. They take advantage of college students & force them to do door to door selling & then rip off customers by misleading them to sign up for continuous billing. They have decent sports reporting, and that is the only thing keeping them afloat.

Those are symptoms of their broader problems. The problem is their audience is and has changed drastically, just like the rest of the print industry in the last decade. Arguably, the Oklahoman has responded to it as well or better than other, larger, more entrenched papers, but even still their basic print-based model is all-but disappearing. Part of the reason is social media, of which OKCTalk is a prime example. That is why the Oklahoman's reps responded as they did. Sources like this (and it's not limited to OKCTalk) are the burr under print media's saddle. And they know which social media sources are credible, and which aren't; you don't see their sports reporters bucking with indignance over some random, anonymous post on an OU football message board. But a site like this is credible, hence their reaction is to discredit it.

What's also important to understand is that Lackmeyer and others from the Oklahoma lurk here; Lackmeyer was, at one time, a fairly regular contributor until he opted to bail for reasons I honestly don't remember. But they do still lurk. And that fact, unpublished and generally unknown, is the greatest demonstration of just how fearful they are not merely of OKCTalk, but of the social media information distribution system in general.

And they should be. The more insular, defensive, and petulant they become, the more they reveal they have no answer for it. A spirit of cooperation with *all* forms of media would serve everyone far better, in the spirit of serving the community with the information all are working so hard to cultivate. Right now, it's a bunch of teenagers with unchecked Twitter accounts. That's embarrassing.

Just a hint, don't spend a second of your life in the comments section of online news articles of any paper. You'll question your existence period.

It's sad when the most rational thing in the comments section is the guy talking about how much money he earned working from home in just one month and you can too.

Those are symptoms of their broader problems. The problem is their audience is and has changed drastically, just like the rest of the print industry in the last decade. Arguably, the Oklahoman has responded to it as well or better than other, larger, more entrenched papers, but even still their basic print-based model is all-but disappearing. Part of the reason is social media, of which OKCTalk is a prime example. That is why the Oklahoman's reps responded as they did. Sources like this (and it's not limited to OKCTalk) are the burr under print media's saddle. And they know which social media sources are credible, and which aren't; you don't see their sports reporters bucking with indignance over some random, anonymous post on an OU football message board. But a site like this is credible, hence their reaction is to discredit it.

What's also important to understand is that Lackmeyer and others from the Oklahoma lurk here; Lackmeyer was, at one time, a fairly regular contributor until he opted to bail for reasons I honestly don't remember. But they do still lurk. And that fact, unpublished and generally unknown, is the greatest demonstration of just how fearful they are not merely of OKCTalk, but of the social media information distribution system in general.

And they should be. The more insular, defensive, and petulant they become, the more they reveal they have no answer for it. A spirit of cooperation with *all* forms of media would serve everyone far better, in the spirit of serving the community with the information all are working so hard to cultivate. Right now, it's a bunch of teenagers with unchecked Twitter accounts. That's embarrassing.

Well, to be fair, I think there were some people here who were real jerks to Steve, and a lot of comments got personal really quickly. I'd have probably quit posting too if I were him. I don't remember what started it, but I remember how personal it got.

I like Steve and think he does good work. I understand that he's worried about his livelihood, and there are a bunch of changes going on right now in the world of media and nobody knows where it will end. I think the Oklahoman has adapted better than most, but as you said, sites like this are a legitimate threat to their business.

Steve started taking jabs at OKCtalk publicly through his weekly chat & social media. Referring to us as some site who posted unsubstantiated rumors.

Well, to be fair, I think there were some people here who were real jerks to Steve, and a lot of comments got personal really quickly. I'd have probably quit posting too if I were him. I don't remember what started it, but I remember how personal it got.

I like Steve and think he does good work. I understand that he's worried about his livelihood, and there are a bunch of changes going on right now in the world of media and nobody knows where it will end. I think the Oklahoman has adapted better than most, but as you said, sites like this are a legitimate threat to their business.

Thanks for the extra info on Steve. I had honestly forgotten the details of him leaving; thinking it was in a thread in which I was not particularly active. I understand anyone's desire to protect their turf or their job.

I had also followed him for a time on Twitter, but was also very off-put by some things he did there, general attitude he conveyed (and not to me personally, either), so I opted to save myself the aggravation and dropped him.

More broadly, outlets like the Oklahoman have, IMHO, two choice regarding social media: they can fight it, or they can figure out how to ally with it. To me, the latter is their only realistic choice of survival. The former is a war of attrition they simply cannot win. This particular was an ugly example. If their default response is to be adversarial, it's indicative of a fight they know they really can't win.

He generally does things in the wrong way like the way he is attacking Elliot Nelson right now on Twitter that have nothing to do with anyone encroaching on his turf.

Steve has turned into a nothing but a Twitter bully and it is sad.

He generally does things in the wrong way like the way he is attacking Elliot Nelson right now on Twitter that have nothing to do with anyone encroaching on his turf.

"Tough" reporting right there

Mr. Lackmeyer appears to have put himself on a tall, tall pedestal lately. Demanding to know private business information regarding a property that is not even owned by anyone he is asking the questions of is pretty disgustingly arrogant if you ask me. His Twitter feed looks like a DOK comment section today, and he wrote it.

Just a hint, don't spend a second of your life in the comments section of online news articles of any paper. You'll question your existence period.
The KOCO comment section is the absolute worst.
But yes...you sort of give up hope for the entire species one or two comments in.

Mr. Lackmeyer appears to have put himself on a tall, tall pedestal lately. Demanding to know private business information regarding a property that is not even owned by anyone he is asking the questions of is pretty disgustingly arrogant if you ask me. His Twitter feed looks like a DOK comment section today, and he wrote it.

His chat today wasn't much different.

His chat today wasn't much different.

This is what perturbs me as much as anything about contemporary representations of what are really old-world media; there was a time when there was a near pathology about journalists being neutral about stories. You covered a beat, you covered that beat; you didn't go into it with a specific predisposition. Lackmeyer is unabashedly biased to what his belief about what's "right" for his beat, and if you differ, you don't just differ, you're obviously wrong, and are stupid for doing so.

I did browse a few minutes of that chat, and realized that was a few minutes I'll never get back.

Anyway, the Oklahoman's never going to change, and they're not getting any of my subscription money, so there's no point in belaboring it I guess...moving on...

I was brow beaten by Steve a few years ago on a development story. Said I could quote on the record or he would just print his own speculation. Which was extremely negative and incorrect. I buckled. It's always left a sour taste.

I also know of several property owners and developers that have actually moved backwards by not making historical remediations or improvements to spite him and his public badmouthing.

His chat today wasn't much different.

I agree. I used to enjoy the chat but it seems like these days its mostly negative and he doesn't tell us anything that we don't already know.

The KOCO comment section is the absolute worst.
But yes...you sort of give up hope for the entire species one or two comments in.

Worse than KWTV and Newsok? I beg to differ. There are signs of intelligent life -- however remote -- in KOCO comments.

I agree. I used to enjoy the chat but it seems like these days its mostly negative and he doesn't tell us anything that we don't already know.

I actually always looked forward to it, in fact I had a routine where I made sure my schedule was clear so I could time it with my (late) breakfast. I always enjoyed eating my breakfast and watching the feed of questions.

Wow, Comcast has some serious balls.

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https://www.facebook.com/xfinity/posts/10154274756469056

I have Comcast here in Oregon, and it absolutely sucks. The service fails about once a week, they have not kept their promise of a $250 Visa Gift Card from a promotion I signed up for when I signed up for service, and it can be excruciatingly slow at random times.

WOW.. the comments on that post on facebook.. seems it kind of backfired on Comcast for sure..lol

I have Comcast here in Oregon, and it absolutely sucks. The service fails about once a week, they have not kept their promise of a $250 Visa Gift Card from a promotion I signed up for when I signed up for service, and it can be excruciatingly slow at random times.

I would call them out to make sure the signal level coming into your home is good. I had an issue with Cox here a while back where I would continually lose service for a short amount of time, and it turned out there was noise on the line. The tech came out and took care of it.

I've heard Comcast and Time Warner are the two worst providers, with Comcast in a commanding lead.

I've heard Comcast and Time Warner are the two worst providers, with Comcast in a commanding lead.

Having used both, I can say with confidence that Time Warner is the worst. Their speeds are very slow compared to the average for cable Internet and you are locked into using their modem/router which is garbage. With Cox, you at least have an option. I still prefer TWC to any DSL however.

Don't forget about the bottlenecking and peak hour restrictions they've been caught sneaking in. Now it's standard practice. At some point they just about flat out went to war against cable cutters. Making it nearly impossible to stream from any source but their own on demand services. DataCom can be a despicable business.

Bits and Bytes: Google Fiber might come to Oklahoma City, not Tulsa - Tulsa World: Bitsbytes (http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/technology/bitsbytes/bits-and-bytes-google-fiber-might-come-to-oklahoma-city/article_f3d63079-f5d6-5912-95cc-ecef40ca8803.html)

Bits and Bytes: Google Fiber might come to Oklahoma City, not Tulsa - Tulsa World: Bitsbytes (http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/technology/bitsbytes/bits-and-bytes-google-fiber-might-come-to-oklahoma-city/article_f3d63079-f5d6-5912-95cc-ecef40ca8803.html)

That's some jealousy right there.

That's some jealousy right there.

Some, yes, but the one valid point to take away from that article not just for the OKC/Tulsa issue is the fact that gigabit service isn't going to be so rare by the time Google gets done digging trenches and laying fiber. When KC was among the first cities to get it about four years ago (?), yeah, gigabit was a *huge* deal, and it was still a thing for the backbone or outer loop. Technology is moving so fast that gigabit speeds, while still rare generally, are not nearly as rarified now as they were then, and surely won't be in two or three years when and if this Google offering comes to fruition.

There's little doubt, however, that Google deserves a great deal of the credit in pushing the envelope. ATT/Cox are fatcats around here and have no reason to provide better service at a lower price except to the extent they compete with each other, but if a third party comes in because *they* see the same situation (and not in an overnight situation, either - they've seen this coming for a while), it changes the whole ballgame. Gotta love competition.

And I wouldn't be the least (giga)bit surprised (har har) if some interesting negotiations follow between OKC and Cox regarding its franchise agreement that I am reasonably sure comes up for renewal next year. I somehow doubt it will be the simple, rubber stamp issue it seems to have been in years past. Cox will probably come to the table a bit petulant with OKC slathering over Google, and OKC will be willing to tell Cox is can see a tech future without the words "Cox" in the mailbox every month. Very interesting indeed.

There may be more gigabit but 1) Google will make it much more ubiquitous; and 2) it will likely be much cheaper.

There may be more gigabit but 1) Google will make it much more ubiquitous; and 2) it will likely be much cheaper.

Yeah, very few places have affordable FTTP available to the home and small business even today. Gigabit is available but its largely in the realm of the enterprise and they pay a lot for it.

Think back to the mid 90s when most home users had AOL dial-up and broadband service was starting to roll out. T1 service cost thousands per month and was therefore only affordable to large businesses. Slowly but surely, cable and DSL providers stepped in and made comparable or faster service available for everyone at affordable prices. Google is doing that, but for the next generation.

One this kind of service is more readily available, it's going to completely change the way we use the Internet and computing in general.

AT&T GigaPower just became active at my apartment building today. Price is $100/mo. If I was home more I would sign-up for it.

Ok... Everytime I see this thread it makes me wonder if Google Fiber will help to keep my internet regular. =+)

Oklahoma City Snapshot: Checklist for a new network | News OK (http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-snapshot-checklist-for-a-new-network/article/5457674)

As some of you may know I work for an IT company out of Mustang, We have a data center off of Council and Reno in the old AT&T data center/Hub. It is not our personal data center but a 3rd party place that you can rent rackspace and have access to the current hub and stuff that is there. My boss told us last week that the office we have in the building may be neighbors to Google. It looks like they are possibly making this a starting point for the servers and network establishment in OKC. If they do get the space I would expect they would end up with a small staff in the office there. If this is the case they are setting themselves up for very little down time in OKC as "Rack 59" has three or four generators on site with enough diesel to power the entire place for 3 weeks without power. As well as contracts to get more diesel there quickly if need be.

As some of you may know I work for an IT company out of Mustang, We have a data center off of Council and Reno in the old AT&T data center/Hub. It is not our personal data center but a 3rd party place that you can rent rackspace and have access to the current hub and stuff that is there. My boss told us last week that the office we have in the building may be neighbors to Google. It looks like they are possibly making this a starting point for the servers and network establishment in OKC. If they do get the space I would expect they would end up with a small staff in the office there. If this is the case they are setting themselves up for very little down time in OKC as "Rack 59" has three or four generators on site with enough diesel to power the entire place for 3 weeks without power. As well as contracts to get more diesel there quickly if need be.

I had a *lot* of family that used to work at that building when it was "Western Electric - Oklahoma City Works" under the old Bell System banner, then AT&T (back when it really was "A" "T" "and" "T", American Telephone and Telegraph), then later Lucent. I think it's one of the underappreciated assets in OKC - its a *monstrous* manufacturing facility that built old crossbar switches back in the 70's and I think the "3B"/"5E" computers ATT built back in the day. I used to get to go out there once a year when I was a kid during their "Engineering Open House" and we'd see all kinds of "advanced technology" they were working on that hadn't yet gone public.

That place is *ideal* as a data center. It's great to know this facility is being used in such a practical way and offers the opportunity to anchor some great, new, long-term technology presence in OKC. Thanks for the info!!

I had a *lot* of family that used to work at that building when it was "Western Electric - Oklahoma City Works" under the old Bell System banner, then AT&T (back when it really was "A" "T" "and" "T", American Telephone and Telegraph), then later Lucent. I think it's one of the underappreciated assets in OKC - its a *monstrous* manufacturing facility that built old crossbar switches back in the 70's and I think the "3B"/"5E" computers ATT built back in the day. I used to get to go out there once a year when I was a kid during their "Engineering Open House" and we'd see all kinds of "advanced technology" they were working on that hadn't yet gone public.

That place is *ideal* as a data center. It's great to know this facility is being used in such a practical way and offers the opportunity to anchor some great, new, long-term technology presence in OKC. Thanks for the info!!

My dad worked out their for basically his entire professional career through all the name changes, I only made it out twice for the open houses. He still is a volunteer at WEOKIE Credit Union (aka Western Electric of Oklahoma Credit Union), roughly a billion dollar side effect of the place even after it's closure. For any of the issues I have had with the new AT&T, it is a bit hard for me to get too upset with the brand.

My dad worked out their for basically his entire professional career through all the name changes, I only made it out twice for the open houses. He still is a volunteer at WEOKIE Credit Union (aka Western Electric of Oklahoma Credit Union), roughly a billion dollar side effect of the place even after it's closure. For any of the issues I have had with the new AT&T, it is a bit hard for me to get too upset with the brand.

I had, variously, an uncle, my mom, and my dad out there over the course of my youth. Lost touch with dad after he left home and my folks split up, but pretty sure he retired from there (as did my mom/uncle).

I just paid off my 15-yr Weokie mortgage last month! Weokie is a great place.

Current ATT has so little to do with "original" other than name it's not hard for me to get cranky with the current incarnation. :)

Has anyone else noticed the Google Maps car(s) around town this week? It may be unrelated by I have seen one two different days since the announcement, in totally different parts of town. It may be unrelated but depending on how recent the decision was made to the announcement, it would make sense to use their existing assets to update the street views of plausible distribution routes parallel or near to roadways.


... Current ATT has so little to do with "original" other than name it's not hard for me to get cranky with the current incarnation. :)
Yea, part of why I do not feel an obligation to give preference to them on buying services, I will not even go into there lobbying on all things internet over the last decade or more. Had my dad been a few years younger I might have have different feelings due to the way the closing was handled for the people who where too young to retire from there.

I just paid off my 15-yr Weokie mortgage last month! Weokie is a great place.

:)


Congrats on paying off your mortgage!

Congrats on paying off your mortgage!

Thanks!! Great feeling. It was a birthday present to myself. Got it done about 2-1/2 years ahead of schedule :)

On KGOU today they talked about Google Fiber working with the city to look at infrastructure. The report went on to say that Cox and ATT hope they will receive an equal playing ground to expand their fiber networks. I SPIT OUT MY COFFEE

How long have COX and ATT had to expand their networks and drive down costs? My COX service has been fine but their are many places in Oklahoma that only have one option or LTE for internet.

Mmmmm I love competition. Good for all us okies.

On KGOU today they talked about Google Fiber working with the city to look at infrastructure. The report went on to say that Cox and ATT hope they will receive an equal playing ground to expand their fiber networks. I SPIT OUT MY COFFEE

How long have COX and ATT had to expand their networks and drive down costs? My COX service has been fine but their are many places in Oklahoma that only have one option or LTE for internet.

Mmmmm I love competition. Good for all us okies.

Let me GET a fresh cup of coffee SO I CAN SPIT IT OUT, TOO!!!?!?!? Then THROW THE CUP ACROSS THE ROOM.

Omigosh, Cox has had a virtually FREE TICKET in OKC for close to, what is it not, thirty, THIRTY YEARS? They've eroded some of their base to the Evil Empire, AT&T, and even THEY are sounding like the aggrieved soul?

They've got nothing if not chutzpah. I'll give 'em that.

Let me GET a fresh cup of coffee SO I CAN SPIT IT OUT, TOO!!!?!?!? Then THROW THE CUP ACROSS THE ROOM.

Omigosh, Cox has had a virtually FREE TICKET in OKC for close to, what is it not, thirty, THIRTY YEARS? They've eroded some of their base to the Evil Empire, AT&T, and even THEY are sounding like the aggrieved soul?

They've got nothing if not chutzpah. I'll give 'em that.

This is the best emoji we have here for spitting out coffee.
:ohno: :Smiley278

Bit of a rant here but -

Comcast is DEFINITELY the worst, maybe not so much for service (as it is fairly OK here in Seattle area) but definitely for Customer (what customer) Service and pricing. Absolutely ridiculous crap they sell here; every package has a ridiculous amount of channels which you WILL NOT USE. No offense, but EVERY and I mean EVERY package has 1/3 of its channels in Spanish and Comcast STILL OFFERS additional LATINO specific packages which cost extra. So, if I just want the normal package, I have to put up with 1/3 to 2/3 of channels I definitely will not use (sorry, we're Asian American) and there isn't a comparable free or priced option for say, Chinese or Korean (both of whom have very significant populations multitudes over anywhere south of the border). I don't get it ONE BIT, which is why we ONLY get Comcast Internet.

I got SICK and tired of paying north of $200 for a Preferred + TV package (HD extra, DVR extra) with a so called any room DVR service (which by the way, is extra) known as X1 and any additional outlet is extra and the HD technology fee and telephone service fee is extra. You don't even get a free set to enjoy your HD package that you paid for in the Preferred + yet you get 50 free channels from latino nations that should be part of their paid package or at least offer more than the two Chinese channels; one is a multi-cultural channel from Washington DC the other piped in from LA. HORRIBLE, I thought Seattle had a reputation as a so-called Pacific Rim city. .. Not according to Comcast, we're deep in the heart of Texas/Oklahoma as I'd expect to see this programming on Cox OKC (and would be fine with it).

Let me say, I have nothing wrong against other people. I just feel that Comcast totally is missing thIS market (Seattle area) whose minority population (what little it is, btw) is dominated by Asians and Asian Americans. There should be 'free' channels included in 'normal' packages for the top minorities we have: Vietnamese, Chinese (Cantonese then Taiwanese), and then Korean. We do have the Korean channel KBS and our piped in Chinese channel from LA is Taiwanese, but have to pay for the China package and it's selection is hiddeous. Do they not know that there are thousands of channels available from Mainland China alone, not to mention plenty from Taiwan, Japan, Korea, Philippines, - all countries with fairly significant populations in this area - Instead, they force all of these channels from Mexico or translated into Spanish on us, Seattle has less than 5% hispanic population; who watches that???

- End Rant

Be thankful for what you have with Cox. Also be thankful OKC has some terrestrial choices in AT&T FIOS, Verizon (dont you guys?), and upcoming with Google. Here, it's Comcast or else, and Comcast knows it (hence the HORRIFIC customer 'service').

Bits and Bytes: Google Fiber might come to Oklahoma City, not Tulsa - Tulsa World: Bitsbytes (http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/technology/bitsbytes/bits-and-bytes-google-fiber-might-come-to-oklahoma-city/article_f3d63079-f5d6-5912-95cc-ecef40ca8803.html)

why do Tulsan's keep thinking they are of similar size to OKC? Can't read any story on OKC without Tulsa people saying the first couple of sentences like in this article to 'justify' their feud against OKC. ... The article is so pessimistic in the beginning, totally downplaying OKC's announcement and even suggesting the city will NOT get the service once geography and infrastructure is considered (while this MAY be true, the writer comes off totally butt hurt that Tulsa with its natural glory wasn't arbitrarily selected when OKC put for the recruiting effort).

TRUTH (or more close to it than THEY like to admit)

barely 400,000 vs. 620,000. OKC is 55% bigger city.
960,000 vs 1.34 million. OKC is 40% bigger metro area. Even the meaningless CSA is 25% bigger.

And these gaps are widening each year (esp city). .. How is Tulsa a similar size to OKC?

Truth is, Google is looking at OKC because OKC leadership took initiative years ago and contacted them. OKC also got significant boost from its economic performance, which prompted Google to give OKC a serious look.

On KGOU today they talked about Google Fiber working with the city to look at infrastructure. The report went on to say that Cox and ATT hope they will receive an equal playing ground to expand their fiber networks. I SPIT OUT MY COFFEE

How long have COX and ATT had to expand their networks and drive down costs? My COX service has been fine but their are many places in Oklahoma that only have one option or LTE for internet.

Mmmmm I love competition. Good for all us okies.


I don't understand the complexities of right of way, and all the other regulations imposed on AT&T and Cox, but you can rest assured that OKC will bend over backwards for Google, for example, build the fiber network for Google and lease it to them like other cities have done. I'm sure all Cox and AT&T want is similar consideration.

But as said above, this whole Google announcement is great for competition!!!

Of course we'll bend over backwards for Google Fiber...we've been bending over for Cox Internet for years!

Be thankful for what you have with Cox. Also be thankful OKC has some terrestrial choices in AT&T FIOS, Verizon (dont you guys?), and upcoming with Google. Here, it's Comcast or else, and Comcast knows it (hence the HORRIFIC customer 'service').

I'm not sure whether or not we have Verizon. As far as I know, we don't. Hate AT&T, haven't had any bad experiences with Cox.