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Bobby821
10-28-2015, 11:53 AM
So I am guessing Moore should get it since it is right in between OKC and Norman. The wait will seem like forever but hopefully this news will mean easier negotiations with Cox come renewal time.


^

Yes, when Google Fiber goes into a market they usually go into the suburbs as well.

Might take a little longer but Edmond and Norman can almost be guaranteed of getting the service.

Pete
10-28-2015, 11:56 AM
Yeah $130 for TV + Internet is an amazing deal compared to what you can currently get from Cox.

More than the price, the internet speeds are way, way faster which means the TV can be far more interactive with more on-demand content and they will be able to pipe in Ultra HD when they want.

Plus, you get to do business with Google rather than Cox.

Bobby821
10-28-2015, 12:05 PM
And No Data Caps!! unlike with Cox

bchris02
10-28-2015, 12:10 PM
And No Data Caps!! unlike with Cox

Yeah this was one thing I really liked about Cox until recently when they changed it. They had no enforced data cap, unlike AT&T and Time Warner which have had caps for years. The 1TB cloud storage you get with Google will also be amazing. With 1 gigabit, I will be able to use it to its potential. On Cox, the slow upload speed and data caps make the cloud a pain.

SoonerDave
10-28-2015, 12:15 PM
So what is the big deal about Google Fiber other than the "Google" name? What are the advantages over other cable or satellite companies? I saw somewhere where the slow internet access is free?

The biggest thing that's not evident in the great speeds and service is the upside potential of a fiber-based cable plant vastly outweigh the aging and limited upside of Cox's copper backbone. Cox has done a great deal to manage its bandwidth issues over the years, and eventually they'll max out what can be done with it, but Google Fiber's upside is huge. Offering a TV package is really just icing on the cake to get people who may not fully appreciate the 1 Gb/s speed to see what they can offer.

The set-top boxes they offer in KC each have a built-in wireless access point, and allow for remote operation via Bluetooth. They give you one for nothing, and additional boxes are just $5/month. If you're a family with two or three Cox boxes from Cox at $8.50/month, you start saving money every month from day 1 (3 boxes: $10 vs $25.50) on that alone beyond the better service pricing model in general, and it appears that boxes from Google have DVR by default.

I realize it'll be a couple of years before anyone can sign up, but the idea of fiber to the home is truly tech-geek exciting for OKC.

PhiAlpha
10-28-2015, 12:16 PM
Lost Ogle giving credit to Pete and OKCtalk for breaking the story:

Report: Oklahoma City is getting Google Fiber | The Lost Ogle (http://www.thelostogle.com/2015/10/28/report-oklahoma-city-is-getting-google-fiber/)

loveOKC
10-28-2015, 12:23 PM
They will only come to neighborhoods that have a high demand. it will be tough to convince enough people in your neighborhood to sign up

SoonerDave
10-28-2015, 12:27 PM
They will only come to neighborhoods that have a high demand. it will be tough to convince enough people in your neighborhood to sign up

Given that their top tier of $130/month for TV+ 1Gb Internet beats my current Cox setup by about $45/month, *plus* another $12/month on the set-tops, it wouldn't take me more than about 28 seconds to sign up. That's just under $700/year in savings for what should be a vastly superior service.

Just have to see how it pans out over the next couple of years.

king183
10-28-2015, 12:27 PM
They will only come to neighborhoods that have a high demand. it will be tough to convince enough people in your neighborhood to sign up

I have no idea why you think it will be tough to convince people to sign up. When they see the capabilities of the service and the advantages over their current options, you'll have people lining up in droves to join the service.

gopokes88
10-28-2015, 12:33 PM
Look at the other cities fiber is in and expanding to as well. We're in good company. This is really big news. Imagine when we're trying to recruit companies here, we were one of the first cities google rolled out fiber too. Clearly Google (one of if not the best corporate brands in the world) thinks okc is a good place to be. Norman will get fiber, that'll be a good draw for ou recruiting students. Free Google fiber internet is available in Norman. This will resonate with young entrepreneurs getting priced out of cities like Portland, Seattle, Austin. If Google likes it, can't be that bad.

Cox will probably off free internet at 5mbs to counter as well. Eventually the entire city will have free internet, and not only that, they'll have options as to who provides their free internet. Our cost of living is already pretty low and now it's a little lower.

GoldFire
10-28-2015, 12:34 PM
Wow, wasn't expecting to see us getting Google Fiber for quite some time! Here's to hoping that they offer business internet as well. Our AT&T internet at our office is unbearable and constantly cuts out, and the alternative with Cox costs 5x as much.

Bellaboo
10-28-2015, 12:37 PM
Not sure of any correlation, but It couldn't hurt that google has an established data center in Oklahoma.

Wonderful news for the OKC metro.

Bobby821
10-28-2015, 12:38 PM
Well this article from News Ok makes it seem a little less than a done deal. feeling a little disappointed.

Google Fiber takes a look at Oklahoma City | News OK (http://newsok.com/google-fiber-takes-a-look-at-oklahoma-city/article/5456570)

loveOKC
10-28-2015, 12:40 PM
[QUOTE=king183;916181]I have no idea why you think it will be tough to convince people to sign up. When they see the capabilities of the service and the advantages over their current options, you'll have people lining up in droves to join the service.[/QUOTE

I don't disagree that people will be lined up for service, but will there be enough people in a specific neighborhood to get Google to activate service. The way the sign up works is, you have to have enough sign ups in the neighborhood for Google to bring service there.

Bellaboo
10-28-2015, 12:41 PM
Well this article from News Ok makes it seem a little less than a done deal. feeling a little disappointed.

Google Fiber takes a look at Oklahoma City | News OK (http://newsok.com/google-fiber-takes-a-look-at-oklahoma-city/article/5456570)

This is before the press conference. Do you think they are going to say much before the presser ?

FighttheGoodFight
10-28-2015, 12:53 PM
Where is the presser going to be available?

FighttheGoodFight
10-28-2015, 12:57 PM
Answered my own question. Looks like we are just a potential city. This could be quite a long time until we get something in place.

https://fiber.google.com/newcities/

Bobby821
10-28-2015, 01:00 PM
Does anyone have any information on how Cox Communications has reacted or done when Google fiber has been announced for a city they currently serve?

UrbanNorman
10-28-2015, 01:01 PM
For what it's worth, I still had the screenshot up from https://fiber.google.com/newcities/ before they added Oklahoma City, so I was able to compare potential cities. The three that were added within the last 15 minutes were OKC, Jacksonville and Tampa.

jccouger
10-28-2015, 01:06 PM
Well, that is a bummer. I guess this is one step closer, but still nothing for sure.

AP
10-28-2015, 01:08 PM
I guess I don't understand what everyone was expecting... Why would they announce that OKC was getting Fiber before other cities that are being explored. Like we somehow jumped to the front of the line.

GoldFire
10-28-2015, 01:11 PM
News9 had tweeted that you could watch live on their site, but I couldn't find it anywhere and the Tweet has now been deleted. Sounds like we already know everything there is to know anyway.

MrBigglesworth
10-28-2015, 01:15 PM
I guess I don't understand what everyone was expecting... Why would they announce that OKC was getting Fiber before other cities that are being explored. Like we somehow jumped to the front of the line.

It isnt jumping the line, its just the fact that its in consideration. The news is huge. It will force existing ISPs to lower pricing and increase speeds because when Google comes in for 1gbps for $70 all others will start to lose business.

zookeeper
10-28-2015, 01:16 PM
The announcement is that we are now a potential city.

Official press release http://www.okc.gov/news/2015_10/Oklahoma_City_to_work_with_Google_Fiber_OKC.html

Oklahoma City to work with Google Fiber to explore bringing OKC residents ultra-high speed Internet access[/h] (Oct. 28, 2015) - Today, Mayor Cornett announced that Oklahoma City will begin working with Google Fiber to explore the possibility of building a brand new superfast broadband network in the city.

“We’re very excited to be at this point in the process. We’ve had ongoing conversations with Google since 2012 and today we are moving forward with a game-changing opportunity to enhance broadband access in Oklahoma City – both in terms of speed and access, said Mayor Cornett.

“We’re also grateful for what could be a substantial investment Google will be making in Oklahoma City as we move forward.”

Improving broadband speeds and choice for residents has been a priority for Oklahoma City for years. Today’s average American broadband speed is 11.9 megabits per second. In contrast, Google Fiber could bring Oklahoma City residents access to Internet speeds up to 1,000 megabits per second—or up to 85 times faster than average speeds in America.

“This is about raising the standards in Oklahoma City and laying the foundations of economic development for our future. In today’s wired world, research, education, business and entertainment take place online. To be competitive in the world, we need to ensure we have access to high-speed, fiber-optic networks and that we get as many people online as possible.”

Jill Szuchmacher, Director of Expansion, Google Fiber said abundant high-speed Internet can help communities grow stronger, laying a foundation for innovation and economic growth.

“City leaders like Mayor Cornett have taken a big step to see what they can do to bring superfast fiber networks to residents and businesses,” Szuchmacher said. “We look forward to working side-by-side with Oklahoma City in the coming months to explore the possibility of bringing Google Fiber to Oklahoma City”

Consumer demand for faster Internet speeds is at an all-time high. Many of the things people love to do online — from gaming to streaming new movies — require a lot of bandwidth. Families want faster speeds at home to do what they love to do on the Web, without buffering or fighting over bandwidth during primetime. And fiber networks aren’t just about meeting today’s speed needs. This year the White House (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/01/20/remarks-president-state-union-address-january-20-2015) made faster Internet speeds a priority, citing the need to drive innovation, foster investment in new industries, and ensure that America is competitive in the global economy. The next leap in Internet speeds — to gigabit Internet — will lead to innovation that’s unimaginable today.

Starting this week, Google will work closely with Mayor Cornett and city leaders on a joint planning process to explore what it would take to build a brand new fiber-optic network capable of delivering these gigabit speeds throughout Oklahoma City. Google will begin compiling a detailed study of local factors that might affect construction plans. Simultaneously, Mayor Cornett and city leaders will begin meetings with Google to discuss what it would take to plan and prepare the city for a fiber project of this scale.

Google Fiber is an Internet and TV service that provides Internet connectivity up to 1 gigabit — 85 times faster than average speeds in America, along with hundreds of HD TV channels. Google Fiber is currently available in Kansas City, KS, Kansas City, MO, Provo, UT, and Austin, TX. Google Fiber in the process of expanding Google Fiber to six additional metro areas: Atlanta, GA, Charlotte, NC, Nashville, TN, Raleigh-Durham, NC, Salt Lake City UT, and San Antonio, TX. For more information about this announcement, visit the Google Fiber blog (http://goo.gl/Yo57vt).

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hfry
10-28-2015, 01:18 PM
This news is huge. Even being a potential city means we are in the road to getting the service. Everyone already knows it takes years to install it all. Seeing people say this is a disappointment is a joke. How many other cities would have been glad to be listed as a potential city today. Is it a 100%sure thing? No, but for them to even announce us means that they already have a plan in place and just like potential cities before us, the service will come.

jn1780
10-28-2015, 01:18 PM
At least were on the map.........

zookeeper
10-28-2015, 01:19 PM
It isnt jumping the line, its just the fact that its in consideration. The news is huge. It will force existing ISPs to lower pricing and increase speeds because when Google comes in for 1gbps for $70 all others will start to lose business.

Except that Google has potential cities all over the country. Fiber isn't "coming" to OKC. It's now on a list of possible cities.

SoonerDave
10-28-2015, 01:21 PM
OKC is on the formal map of Google Fiber future cities. While it may not be as "AHA" as perhaps I might have hoped, it's a darned sight better than not being on the map at all.

There's a lot of infrastructure to be rolled out and built up, but so long as no overwhelming obstacles are seen, this is still great news.

I wonder if there are any aspects of this about which Cornett has to be cautious for perhaps political reasons. I think the Cox franchise agreement is up for renewal next year, and if nothing else this gives the City quite a bit of leverage as they discuss terms for a new agreement - and I'll bet it's the shortest one ever. I think the current one was 7 years (?) Not sure.

zookeeper
10-28-2015, 01:21 PM
This news is huge. Even being a potential city means we are in the road to getting the service. Everyone already knows it takes years to install it all. Seeing people say this is a disappointment is a joke. How many other cities would have been glad to be listed as a potential city today. Is it a 100%sure thing? No, but for them to even announce us means that they already have a plan in place and just like potential cities before us, the service will come.

It IS good news. But, an hour ago, we all thought we were a Google Fiber city and it would be announced today according to the report. Give everybody a break, this is like we've got an NFL franchise versus "you're now on our official list." Yes, that would be exciting, but nothing like the former.

gopokes88
10-28-2015, 01:22 PM
Get everyone you know to fill this out.

https://fiber.google.com/cities/oklahomacity/

GoldFire
10-28-2015, 01:22 PM
Except that Google has potential cities all over the country. Fiber isn't "coming" to OKC. It's now on a list of possible cities.

This is how it works. Installing a metro-wide fiber network is an incredibly complex and cost-intensive process. They weren't just going to wake up one day and say "hmm, let's launch in OKC next!" The other cities they've launched in started as "potential" as well.

FighttheGoodFight
10-28-2015, 01:22 PM
This is a fun exchange. https://twitter.com/briOKC/status/659423848987684864

FighttheGoodFight
10-28-2015, 01:23 PM
This is how it works. Installing a metro-wide fiber network is an incredibly complex and cost-intensive process. They weren't just going to wake up one day and say "hmm, let's launch in OKC next!" The other cities they've launched in started as "potential" as well.

Technically the first few had "dark" fiber already run in their cities so the rollout was faster.

AP
10-28-2015, 01:24 PM
This is how it works. Installing a metro-wide fiber network is an incredibly complex and cost-intensive process. They weren't just going to wake up one day and say "hmm, let's launch in OKC next!" The other cities they've launched in started as "potential" as well.

This is exactly what I was saying.

zookeeper
10-28-2015, 01:24 PM
OKC is on the formal map of Google Fiber future cities. While it may not be as "AHA" as perhaps I might have hoped, it's a darned sight better than not being on the map at all.

There's a lot of infrastructure to be rolled out and built up, but so long as no overwhelming obstacles are seen, this is still great news.

I wonder if there are any aspects of this about which Cornett has to be cautious for perhaps political reasons. I think the Cox franchise agreement is up for renewal next year, and if nothing else this gives the City quite a bit of leverage as they discuss terms for a new agreement - and I'll bet it's the shortest one ever. I think the current one was 7 years (?) Not sure.

It never made sense. There's no way we would have jumped all the cities that have had this same announcement a long time ago. Yes, being on the potential list is great. But, after the earlier reports, it's disappointing; but as I said, would not have made sense considering how we all know how the Google Fiber process works.. Pete probably will be hiding near a dark alley for his "source."

gopokes88
10-28-2015, 01:25 PM
It IS good news. But, an hour ago, we all thought we were a Google Fiber city and it would be announced today according to the report. Give everybody a break, this is like we've got an NFL franchise versus "you're now on our official list." Yes, that would be exciting, but nothing like the former.
I wonder if this would be a good thing to put on the MAPS 4 ballot, tell google we'll pay for half the infrastructure with MAPS 4 if you pay for the other half?

The free internet would increase in speed for paying for the infrastructure.

Bellaboo
10-28-2015, 01:26 PM
For what it's worth, I still had the screenshot up from https://fiber.google.com/newcities/ before they added Oklahoma City, so I was able to compare potential cities. The three that were added within the last 15 minutes were OKC, Jacksonville and Tampa.

I went to this site - hovered on OKC - clicked on 'Learn More'
I then put my street number and zip code along with my email in their registration. This may be another venue for them to determine infrastructure locality ?

jccouger
10-28-2015, 01:27 PM
This news is huge. Even being a potential city means we are in the road to getting the service. Everyone already knows it takes years to install it all. Seeing people say this is a disappointment is a joke. How many other cities would have been glad to be listed as a potential city today. Is it a 100%sure thing? No, but for them to even announce us means that they already have a plan in place and just like potential cities before us, the service will come.

Disappointment is a matter of expectations. When the news initially broke it led us to expect we were a shoe in. Don't get me wrong, this is still great news, but I'm not going to get that excited about something that could potentially happen 5-6 or more years from now. I'm sure it will happen, I really doubt Google would announce any cities that is wasn't firmly committed too.

gopokes88
10-28-2015, 01:28 PM
This is a fun exchange. https://twitter.com/briOKC/status/659423848987684864
Oh she burns him real good.

Newsok is always in a tough spot. They need to be first but they have to be spot on 100%. OKCtalk can get things 75% correct and no one cares.

gopokes88
10-28-2015, 01:30 PM
I went to this site - hovered on OKC - clicked on 'Learn More'
I then put my street number and zip code along with my email in their registration. This may be another venue for them to determine infrastructure locality ?

Yeah they are basically figuring out a few things.

What % of OKC took the time to fill out the form to request Fiber. If we meet their minimum %, it'll shift to which neighborhoods are the most excited about, and what neighborhoods are feasible to roll out to the easiest.

Bellaboo
10-28-2015, 01:35 PM
Except that Google has potential cities all over the country. Fiber isn't "coming" to OKC. It's now on a list of possible cities.

There is 9 cities that have or are in the process of getting Google Fiber, then there are 9 more cities on the potential list, which we are one of those 9.

OU Adonis
10-28-2015, 01:37 PM
So what I am getting is.. Yukon will have it in the next 10 years.. :(

bchris02
10-28-2015, 01:38 PM
There is 9 cities that have or are in the process of getting Google Fiber, then there are 9 more cities on the potential list, which we are one of those 9.

Agree. Google wouldn't put OKC on its map if it wasn't seriously interested in providing service here. The fact that OKC got on the list this soon is good news.

SoonerDave
10-28-2015, 01:39 PM
Oh she burns him real good.

Newsok is always in a tough spot. They need to be first but they have to be spot on 100%. OKCtalk can get things 75% correct and no one cares.

I don't agree that she burned him. She cracked about LostOgle being "petty," then makes a fairly petty comment herself. Dumb way to take presumably the high road. Given NewsOK's situation differs from OKCTalk, but despite that, just don't reply. She got baited, and I think she looks the worse for it IMHO.

And it wouldn't have cost her one penny of credibility to indicate that other sources were reporting similar information. That's all it would have taken.

I completely understand how "traditional" news outlets have their own rules, but they abide those rules and sometimes social media burns them. And sometimes regular media burns social media. That's life in the so-called "digital age." Whining about it just doesn't help.

zookeeper
10-28-2015, 01:41 PM
Agree. Google wouldn't put OKC on its map if it wasn't seriously interested in providing service here.

Nobody is saying differently. We all agree being on the potential list is great.

FighttheGoodFight
10-28-2015, 01:43 PM
I don't agree that she burned him. She cracked about LostOgle being "petty," then makes a fairly petty comment herself. Dumb way to take presumably the high road. Given NewsOK's situation differs from OKCTalk, but despite that, just don't reply. She got baited, and I think she looks the worse for it IMHO.

And it wouldn't have cost her one penny of credibility to indicate that other sources were reporting similar information. That's all it would have taken.

I completely understand how "traditional" news outlets have their own rules, but they abide those rules and sometimes social media burns them. And sometimes regular media burns social media. That's life in the so-called "digital age." Whining about it just doesn't help.

I would argue this site has more readability than that atrocious NewsOK site.

Also I thought The Oklahoman only did sports now? :p

jccouger
10-28-2015, 01:43 PM
I wonder if this would be a good thing to put on the MAPS 4 ballot, tell google we'll pay for half the infrastructure with MAPS 4 if you pay for the other half?

The free internet would increase in speed for paying for the infrastructure.

This is a good idea, but when would tax collections begin & earn enough to pay for this? We aren't scheduled for another maps vote for quite some time.

SoonerDave
10-28-2015, 01:44 PM
I would argue this site has more readability than that atrocious NewsOK site.

Also I thought The Oklahoman only did sports now? :p

The lack of sports is why I dumped them.

Years ago.

FighttheGoodFight
10-28-2015, 01:46 PM
The lack of sports is why I dumped them.

Years ago.

Last time I looked it was all sports. So now what do they post? Just a coupon book?

I'll stop getting off topic now.

I am going to sign all my neighbors up on the Google Fiber interest page.

bchris02
10-28-2015, 01:47 PM
I submitted my address on their site. Everyone should do so to show them that there is legitimate interest here.

GoldFire
10-28-2015, 01:48 PM
Here's the official announcement from Google: Google Fiber Blog (http://googlefiberblog.blogspot.com/2015/10/exploring-gigabit-speeds-for-three-new.html)

sooner88
10-28-2015, 01:52 PM
Here's the official announcement from Google: Google Fiber Blog (http://googlefiberblog.blogspot.com/2015/10/exploring-gigabit-speeds-for-three-new.html)

^^^ we're starting to see the impact that making the "Top Cities to..." lists has.

jerrywall
10-28-2015, 01:53 PM
There is 9 cities that have or are in the process of getting Google Fiber, then there are 9 more cities on the potential list, which we are one of those 9.

And from what I understand is that those 9 cities that have or are in the process of getting Google Fiber are the 9 cities that a year ago were put on the potential list. The the progression rate seems to be pretty high.

Robert_M
10-28-2015, 01:58 PM
Been seeing the Cox commercials for their Gigablast internet for about a month now. They have a promotional price for TV + phone + internet for $135.00. Could be they heard the rumors about Google as well and were trying to get their word out first.

https://www.cox.com/residential/internet/gigablast.html?sc_id=cr_dm_camp_z_giglife_vanity

bchris02
10-28-2015, 01:58 PM
It looks like Brianna Bailey is really wanting to pick a fight with OKCTalk.

https://twitter.com/briOKC

gopokes88
10-28-2015, 02:00 PM
This is a good idea, but when would tax collections begin & earn enough to pay for this? We aren't scheduled for another maps vote for quite some time.

Isn't the next one slated for 2018? It's not that far off, we'll probably have a clearer idea of what's going to be on the ballot about a year from now, so they can campaign for it's passage. If we're being honest Google giving the official yay or nay is at least a year away.

Since collections take so long Google would probably spend it all up front and the city will pay them back as collections roll in. I'm not sure how it's all going to shake out but Cornett has a very good track record with this sort of thing. Google will get a deal, OKC will get a good deal, OKCtalk will be mad (sorta sarcastic).

MrBigglesworth
10-28-2015, 02:00 PM
Except that Google has potential cities all over the country. Fiber isn't "coming" to OKC. It's now on a list of possible cities.

You will be crying into your Gigabit connection within 5 years, whether or not it is provided by Google.

PhiAlpha
10-28-2015, 02:00 PM
Here is a screenshot of their expansion process from the expansion page. Looks like we are at Phase 1 which I assume every city on the last started at.
http://www.okctalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11701&stc=1

OU Adonis
10-28-2015, 02:04 PM
OKC is on the formal map of Google Fiber future cities. While it may not be as "AHA" as perhaps I might have hoped, it's a darned sight better than not being on the map at all.

There's a lot of infrastructure to be rolled out and built up, but so long as no overwhelming obstacles are seen, this is still great news.

I wonder if there are any aspects of this about which Cornett has to be cautious for perhaps political reasons. I think the Cox franchise agreement is up for renewal next year, and if nothing else this gives the City quite a bit of leverage as they discuss terms for a new agreement - and I'll bet it's the shortest one ever. I think the current one was 7 years (?) Not sure.

It could cost upwards of close to 100m to lay fiber to each home in the OKC metro area (and burbs). I doubt people would vote on a tax to basically help a business get in the market.

gopokes88
10-28-2015, 02:06 PM
It looks like Brianna Bailey is really wanting to pick a fight with OKCTalk.

https://twitter.com/briOKC

She shouldn't. I'm fine with her pointing out OKCtalk only got it half right and that's why Newsok was slower to the story. However, they're kinda apples and oranges.

Okctalk is the water cooler of the town. They get most things right just not exactly. Which is what you'd expect from a message board.

Newsok is a paper. They have to be 100% correct or issue retractions. Makes them slower, but usually more accurate.

That's not a slam on OKCtalk either. It doesn't have to impose the same standards as Newsok because that's not what it is. Apples and Oranges in my mind.