predicted the "mother" of all snow storms. Thousands of businesses, schools, churches, activities of all kind canceled events at least 24 hours in advance. Nothing. Well, here we go again. Sorry, that should be REMEMBER.

I do understand what you are saying. However, the models are also predicting a major storm this time, not just him. I am not saying we will get 18-21 inches like some models are saying, but it is looking more and more like we will get significant snowfall out of this storm. We will know much more this afternoon/evening after a couple more model runs!

I missed the Voodoo priest, he was a bit more accurate then the local weathermen..esp England....the ole kook..

4,5,9 say 4-8+ while the NWS says 2-4, how can they see the same info and come up with different amounts?

I don't trust any weather forecast that is more than 4 hours in advance

4,5,9 say 4-8+ while the NWS says 2-4, how can they see the same info and come up with different amounts?

They all see the same info but interpret it differently. The NWS is very conservative because they are the official weather agency for the country and as such, have to forecast a little more conservatively until they are certain that it will materialize. The local stations are in the business of making money, so if they forecast big, more people watch and they get more money from advertising...

I agree. I think it's a ratings game. MM has historically been the "gloom and doom" weather man in OKC. The majority of people love drama so they watch.

I don't trust any weather forecast that is more than 4 hours in advance

Hell, I don't trust our local guys when they're telling you the *current* weather.

Can't count the number of times I've been driving(crawling) down broadway extension in the rain while listening to Gary tell me there's a 40% chance of precipitation.

They should stop spending money on whatever 3-d enhanced mega doppler system they use and just put in a window.

:LolLolLol ............put in a window......

"Morgasm" lol

Hate that guy.

The TV weather guys are Drama Queens! Have you ever noticed that no matter how little the chance of snow, they always tease that as a lead? Then you find out later they are talking about snow in the panhandle and people in the panhandle do not even watch the station. They are watching the weather forecasts from TV stations in Amarillo.

I wonder if there would some legal action for weather forecasts that are so inaccurate? People cancel events, salt and sand crews get staged for the impending doom...then nothing...nada...zip. I am not talking the difference between forecast is 8 inches and it only snows 3-4. I am talking about the wild 8-12 inch forecasts that turn into a simple dusting.

I mean they build the drama of stay at home, do not venture out, but we will drive to a bridge near the station and zoom in on some snow or ice for you. If it is so dangerous, why dont they stay inside?

"We are talking about people's lives here!" - Gary England

In defense of all of the local "weather-guessers" - OKC Talk's own
Aaron Tuttle clued us in to the term the Station Managers use - Weather Porn- if the weather person doesn't play the game they find someone who will.

I miss AT!

Can't count the number of times I've been driving(crawling) down broadway extension in the rain while listening to Gary tell me there's a 40% chance of precipitation.

They should stop spending money on whatever 3-d enhanced mega doppler system they use and just put in a window.

Because that is a 40% chance that a tenth of an inch of rain or more will hit the precipitation sensor at Will Rogers World Airport, Wiley Post Airport, the news station, or various other weather stations throughout the metro.

The information is also fed as hourly reports, not live temperature, wind, and precipitation data. Every hour at 12 past, the feed from WRWA comes in and that is a 20 minute delay (The information is recorded at 52 past and processed and sent to the NWS and ATC live, but it takes the NWS about 15-20 to get the data ready to be "picked-up" by external contacts). So, just because it's raining, doesn't mean it's raining - if significant rainfall occurred, you will see the data in the next update, or if the weather changed very rapidly, a special report will be generated and sent out.

What, did I just hear "weather porn"? Guess it pulled me from the shadows. lol!

The funny thing is 99% of the time the forecast you receive from the weather guys will be right 48 hours in advance. That's how good the science and the computer models are. It's really hard to bust which is why there are weather people on TV that are not meteorologists, they don't necessarily have to be.

Now, snow is completely different. It doesn't matter how well the model is handling it, something can always change. Snow events expose the weakness in the models. Now to give Morgasm credit, the model last night did show 2 feet of snow, and this morning it continued that trend. But that's only one model. There are others. The best thing to do is blend them all into an average and pick a conservative number. TV makes them have to pick a number days out when in reality snowfall totals should not be estimated beyond 24 hours out. That's why today you see more homogenous numbers from all outlets. By this evening at 10pm they should all be saying the same thing.

AT

Are we pretty certain that the temperature is going to stay below 32 for most of tomorrow? It would seem like the temp is harder to predict than rainfall totals..

4,5,9 say 4-8+ while the NWS says 2-4, how can they see the same info and come up with different amounts?

Ratings

Do I dare weigh in here? Nah, better not....

Do I dare weigh in here? Nah, better not....

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Read number 3.

It was good meeting you at the MAPS3 watch party by the way.

im guessing Mike Morgan was....correct. Glad i stayed home today.

Be safe everyone, and Merry Christmas :)

I was watching Channel 4 weather, Mike Morgan was standing behind a table/desk talking about the blizzard conditions, must have been trying to hide his woody.

i was watching channel 4 weather, mike morgan was standing behind a table/desk talking about the blizzard conditions, must have been trying to hide his woody.

lol! Lol!

he hit the nail on the head with this one.

I guess Mike was right!! No one ever mentions how many lives they save when they are predicitng severe weather such as tornadoes.

Mike Morgan scares me... He over exaggerates everything.. which is not good and not bad at all.

Was I the only one that noticed Mike Morgasim physically quivering while talking about the blizzard? I bellied laughed when he started talking about the Governor should declare a State of Emergency and call on the Army to use HUMVEEs to rescue people. The only dramatic effect missing was the Sopa Opra closeup and background music. The HUMVEE is good, but I would have not been out in anything less than a HEMTT or 5-Ton truck.

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Was I the only one that noticed Mike Morgasim physically quivering while talking about the blizzard? I bellied laughed when he started talking about the Governor should declare a State of Emergency and call on the Army to use HUMVEEs to rescue people. The only dramatic effect missing was the Sopa Opra closeup and background music. The HUMVEE is good, but I would have not been out in anything less than a HEMTT or 5-Ton truck.

HEMTT (i forgot what that acronym actually stands for) is a lot of fun, i used to drive fuel tankers and ammo trucks in the army. One bad ass vehicle!

I can't blame these guys for getting excited when events like this come up. Its like the 1999 tornado for Gary England. These are events that can be once in a lifetime and sometimes when they happen, they get very little time to prepare. They can make or break careers. Its not like calling a touchdown in a football game, another 1999 tornado (hopefully) or a somewhat surprise Christmas Eve blizzard may never happen again. This is the type of thing they dream about when they are in school and it actually happened on Christmas Eve.

I can't blame these guys for getting excited when events like this come up. Its like the 1999 tornado for Gary England. These are events that can be once in a lifetime and sometimes when they happen, they get very little time to prepare. They can make or break careers. Its not like calling a touchdown in a football game, another 1999 tornado (hopefully) or a somewhat surprise Christmas Eve blizzard may never happen again. This is the type of thing they dream about when they are in school and it actually happened on Christmas Eve.

I love your name, mugofbeer.

I occasionally love my name, too. Sometimes a couple of times an evening.