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Doug Loudenback
12-19-2009, 06:11 PM
I don't see a thread but if there is one already, please merge.

Just saw Avatar at the Harkins Cine Capri. 2 things: On that screen, it is not 3D (we could have waited ... we were there for the 3:30 pm Saturday showing but would have waited until after 6 for the next 3D, so we skipped it.

Second and more importantly, my wife and I enjoyed the movie to the hilt. Stunning graphics; story wasn't too original (Euros v. Native Americans transported about 100-150 years from now on a distant planet), with lots of big birds, etc. But, totally engaging and a very satisfying ending.

kevinpate
12-19-2009, 06:41 PM
I've only seen a tv trailer for this, but with the sound down below my hearing level, my first thought was when the heck did the smurfs become anorexic teens.

Kinda glad to hear it's got more appeal than that.

Doug Loudenback
12-19-2009, 07:20 PM
I've only seen a tv trailer for this, but with the sound down below my hearing level, my first thought was when the heck did the smurfs become anorexic teens.

Kinda glad to hear it's got more appeal than that.
Were I to compare this movie with (1) Lord of The Rings Trilogy and (2) Star Wars movies, both of which genres and movies I enjoy but neither of which really fit what this movie is (in the 1st place, Avatar is not a saga like both of those groups were), I would place it somewhere in the middle ... I've always seen Rings as very very serious fiction, Star Wars as more frivolous but nonetheless entertaining. Some of the characters in Star Wars struck me as being "different" for no other purpose and kind of cutsey. The characters in this movie, while obviously not "real," seemed a better fit to me in the hypothetical world of the movie which was deftly created. And the very blatant analogy of the expansive Euro-linked interests in the US vs. the Native Americans, as well as business interests as a if not the driving force in use of military, made the analogy more realistic to me.

PennyQuilts
12-19-2009, 08:48 PM
Thanks, Doug - I'll put this on my list to see.

venture
12-19-2009, 09:44 PM
Movie is incredible. The start was a little dry for me but I didn't want it to end. Visually stunning, the story line definitely had the Native American tone to it but also highlights our species lack of regard for anything by the almighty dollar. I am thrilled that he already has the two sequels in the works for it. It wasn't quite up there with LoTR for me, but its definitely very high on my "will watch 35 times" list.

Side note. Great service as always from Warren. Did seem their portions were getting a bit smaller on the meals, but may have just been a new crew in the kitchen today. All in all food and service still great. Haven't gone to another theater since they opened and probably never will as long as they remain. Can't beat the product.

citizenkane
12-20-2009, 12:23 AM
I saw it yesterday at Warren in 3-d. I have to admit I was skeptical at first, but it was actually a very good film.

Doug Loudenback
12-20-2009, 05:36 AM
Movie is incredible. * * * It wasn't quite up there with LoTR for me, but its definitely very high on my "will watch 35 times" list.
If any movies ever match LoTR for me, I'll know that I've died and gone to heaven. As to Avatar, I'm glad to hear that sequels are planned ... maybe this will turn out being a saga before it's all done, as well.

Edmond Earl
12-20-2009, 02:15 PM
Quail Springs has it on an IMAX screen

dismayed
12-20-2009, 05:00 PM
Looked fantastic in 3-D at the Warren this weekend. There's a forest scene where these little seedlings are falling from a tree and there are bugs floating in between the "camera" and the characters... it was simply amazing.

mooshie
12-20-2009, 05:12 PM
I usually see movies at Warren, but I saw Avatar at the new imax 3-d. It was easily the most impressive 3-d movie I've seen. I'm not sure if it's just the movie that did it well, or if it was the imax screen.

duckman
12-20-2009, 10:07 PM
I just got back from the IMAX 3D at Quail. The film was impressive, but the theater was scorching seemingly adding to the length of the film. I sum it up as "Fern Gully" with a $400 million budget.

trousers
12-21-2009, 05:53 AM
Saw the 3D version last night at Harkins, pretty cool. My wife LOVED it. Didnt feel like 3 hours.

Karried
12-21-2009, 07:06 AM
I saw it at Quail in 3D because IMAX was sold out. I love this movie... lol, I too was thinking Fern Gully though, as my kids loved that movie when they were little and I watched it a hundred times with them.

I'm taking the rest of the family on Christmas Eve to see it on the 3D Imax screen. This time I got tickets way in advance (like yesterday!)

I don't like long movies.. but this one had me sitting on the edge of my seat and hoping it didn't end. I didn't feel like it was over 2 hours long at all.

It was like entering a new world - special effects simply amazing.... everytime I looked at my 12 year old, he was leaning forward and either smiling or looking completely amazed (which is how I probably looked as well!)

Definitely worth seeing this movie and if you can do the 3D and Imax, even better. You won't be disappointed.

fuzzytoad
12-21-2009, 08:01 AM
Of course, if you *really* want the 3D Imax experience, drive up to Tulsa and watch it on the real Imax screen.

metro
12-21-2009, 08:54 AM
The 3D IMAX was amazing. Like the matrix on steroids and the 3d was like you're really there!

Ginkasa
12-21-2009, 10:26 PM
Quail Springs has it on an IMAX screen


This is a lie. Not a lie created or willingly told by you, Edmond Earl, but a lie nonetheless. The "IMAX" screen as Quail Springs is a "fake" IMAX screen. If you want to see a movie with the "IMAX experience" you need to drive to Tulsa. Otherwise you should save your money and see the movie at Warren or Harkins or, at worst, a "normal" auditormium at Quail Springs.

I've posted about this before, but this simply isn't a case of "preference" or opinion. The simple fact is that the IMAX at Quail is a cheat and a lie and you should not be tricked into spending so much money on it.

Here is an excellent article by Roger Ebert on the subject: That's not the IMAX I grew up with - Roger Ebert's Journal (http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/05/thats_not_the_imax_i_grew_up_w.html)

The 3D isn't better, the screen isn't larger, its not worth the extra cost. Go to Warren Theatres and watch it in the Grand Auditorium if you need a large screen with 3D. If you're not in the balcony you'll be saving tons of money and if you are you're at least getting your money's worth. But don't go to Quail's "IMAX." Please.

Karried
12-21-2009, 10:40 PM
So much money? My ticket for a 12:45pm showing on Thursday was $7 Imax 3D at Quail Springs. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think I might spend a little more in gas for the drive to Tulsa (or even Moore) for a 'Real Imax Experience'.

Apparently, I'm not all that particular. And, actually, I really could care less, the movie is wonderful.. I loved it! I'm not going to waste my time measuring the screen or lamenting about the fact that Quail isn't a Real Imax.. I'm going to enjoy a great movie with family and friends.

Ginkasa
12-22-2009, 12:06 AM
*shrugs* Their website says its an additional $4 (which, again according to the website, should have been $11 at 12:45pm), but what do I know?

Anyway, my point isn't to ruin anyone's experience who has already been, but to deter anyone who will be going for that "true IMAX experience." If you don't care, more power to you. If you enjoyed your visit, great. I'm glad you had a good time. But there are people who care and will probably feel cheated if they to Quail Springs expecting a screen the size of Mount Everest.

I'd feel cheated if I ordered Dr. Pepper and got Pibb Xtra, or, the comparison more used, ordered a Coke and received New Coke. I don't see what's so wrong about trying to prevent that. If you read the article I linked in my above post it explains everything. Basically, though, the entire idea behind IMAX for the past 30 years has been the epic size of the screen and the different dimensions of the screen. The screen at Quail Springs has neither of those and is simply a brand name being thrown on a marginally modified existing screen. Again, the article I linked above has an example.

Matt
12-22-2009, 01:09 AM
That Ebert article should be reposted anytime anyone here talks about the "Imax" at Quail Springs. God, what a sham. But then again, I wouldn't expect anything less from AMC.

venture
12-22-2009, 02:28 AM
I think we all have different preferences to theaters. Personally, once I went to the Warren when the opened, I refused to go to any other movie house in the area. Harkins was my choice before, but not it is a dump compared to the Warren. Plus the balcony is so worth the extra few bucks. I have no problems having a huge seat, warm restaurant style food, and someone waiting on me. :)

With that said, I didn't get to see it in 3D but that is mainly my own choice since the 3D movie glasses give me a headache. Maybe i'll just pack a bunch of advil and try it again. :)

dismayed
12-22-2009, 11:08 AM
I think we all have different preferences to theaters. Personally, once I went to the Warren when the opened, I refused to go to any other movie house in the area. Harkins was my choice before, but not it is a dump compared to the Warren. Plus the balcony is so worth the extra few bucks. I have no problems having a huge seat, warm restaurant style food, and someone waiting on me. :)

With that said, I didn't get to see it in 3D but that is mainly my own choice since the 3D movie glasses give me a headache. Maybe i'll just pack a bunch of advil and try it again. :)

It's totally worth the headache.

Richard at Remax
12-22-2009, 03:57 PM
I guess I am in the minority. I didn't like it at all. It didn't have the feel to a james cameron movie and I thought the story was unoriginal and drawn out.

However, the visuals are worth the price of admission, so I still tell people to go see it.

Dustin
12-24-2009, 02:20 AM
Just saw it in IMAX 3D... Best movie I have ever seen! Makes me not want to be a sky person..

dmoor82
12-24-2009, 09:39 AM
I saw it yesterday at Warren in 3-d. I have to admit I was skeptical at first, but it was actually a very good film.

^^^ I also saw it at warren! it was the BEST movie I have ever seen!

HVAC Instructor
12-24-2009, 09:42 AM
... Best movie I have ever seen! Makes me not want to be a sky person..

Ditto! Great movie. Definately the best I've ever seen.

so1rfan
12-24-2009, 01:44 PM
Evidently its a "racist" movie. White man needs to save the less developed race.

James Cameron's Avatar is a stylish film marred by its racist subtext – Telegraph Blogs (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/willheaven/100020488/james-camerons-avatar-is-a-stylish-film-marred-by-its-racist-subtext/)

Is Avatar Racist? | Cinemaroll (http://cinemaroll.com/cinemarolling/is-avatar-racist/)

MadMonk
12-24-2009, 02:46 PM
LOL, can one be racist against a made-up race?

jbrown84
12-24-2009, 08:00 PM
That Ebert article should be reposted anytime anyone here talks about the "Imax" at Quail Springs. God, what a sham. But then again, I wouldn't expect anything less from AMC.

You act as if AMC stole the trademarked IMAX name. IMAX has put their name on these theatres. If you want to rag on someone for it, rag on IMAX for watering down their brand.


Evidently its a "racist" movie. White man needs to save the less developed race.

James Cameron's Avatar is a stylish film marred by its racist subtext – Telegraph Blogs (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/willheaven/100020488/james-camerons-avatar-is-a-stylish-film-marred-by-its-racist-subtext/)

Is Avatar Racist? | Cinemaroll (http://cinemaroll.com/cinemarolling/is-avatar-racist/)

Absolutely ridiculous. He saved the Na'vi by becoming one of them. He's not the "noble white man". The white people are the bad guys. Beyond absurd.



Oh and it's the best movie of the year! Definitely not propelled by the most original story ever, but not every movie can have that. Cameron is a great storyteller and has amazing vision. The effects are unbelievable. In 3-D, it looks like you're really there.

fokochang
12-25-2009, 01:15 AM
So much money? My ticket for a 12:45pm showing on Thursday was $7 Imax 3D at Quail Springs. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think I might spend a little more in gas for the drive to Tulsa (or even Moore) for a 'Real Imax Experience'.

Apparently, I'm not all that particular. And, actually, I really could care less, the movie is wonderful.. I loved it! I'm not going to waste my time measuring the screen or lamenting about the fact that Quail isn't a Real Imax.. I'm going to enjoy a great movie with family and friends.

mine was 11 and i bought it online for wednesday at 430. what gives?

kevinpate
12-25-2009, 09:21 AM
Having never bothered to see a 3d film, I concede curiosity. How does providing 3-d glasses work out for the folks who can't see past their noses without their own specs? You know, the me's who go anyways.

dismayed
12-25-2009, 08:23 PM
The glasses are big enough that they will fit over your normal glasses.

rowdy55ok
12-25-2009, 08:59 PM
I love movies, but I hate to "go" to the movies.

My son asked me to go with him to see "Avatar." I was stunned and pleasantly surprised by the invitation but not fond on driving to Quail Springs or Warren or anywhere out of my beaten paths around the southside, so we went to Crossroads. I didn't see it in 3-D, I don't know what IMAX means.

What I do know is that I was "sooooo mesmerized by this movie, I didn't want it to end. I wanted to go there. I was with my son who was not embarassed to be seen with his 'mom' and it was one of the best times.

What could be better? Merry Christmas everyone.

Karried
12-25-2009, 09:52 PM
mine was 11 and i bought it online for wednesday at 430. what gives?


We went to the theater and bought the Advance tickets in person, about a week before 12/24 (of course, had no idea we'd have to brave a blizzard!) ... we each paid $7 for Imax 3D and my son was $6 (age 12) total - 7 people.

When I looked online afterward, the tix were $11.00 each - I was thinking maybe when we got to the theater with our tix they would say it was a mistake but no one did.

Something I found interesting... the mall at Quail Springs was like a ghost town on Christmas Eve! (blizzard) ... But the Imax showing of Avatar was packed for both showings. Unfortunately, they probably regretted going to the theater later. When we got to the mall around 11 am the storm wasn't too bad but when we came out about 4 hours later... the storm was in full force and the parking lot was a mess. We have a huge 4 wheel drive truck (thank God) but so many cars were stuck. ugh.

Avatar on 3D Imax was incredible. I've seen Avatar twice (first time only in 3D). The second time I was just as enthralled, if not more, as I was able to notice more details. This movie is really good, seeing it on Imax in 3D is a real treat.

Matt
12-27-2009, 06:07 PM
You act as if AMC stole the trademarked IMAX name. IMAX has put their name on these theatres. If you want to rag on someone for it, rag on IMAX for watering down their brand.

That's a good point you've got there. It's just as much IMAX's fault for signing off on this scam, you're right.

It's just that AMC sucks so bad in so many other aspects that I just threw all the blame on them out of habit, I guess. But anyway, yeah, shame on them, shame on IMAX, and "God help you" to anyone who's dumb enough to fall for their crap and thinks that they're getting the real IMAX experience at AMC Quail.

MadMonk
12-27-2009, 08:20 PM
The family and I saw the movie in 3D at the Warren this afternoon. Wow! The big action scenes are incredible and the flying scenes induce a fair amount of vertigo. However, it was the subtle things that really caught my eye. There were several times where for a split second, I was about to swat away the bugs or floating ash floating in front of my face. There was even one scene where I started to get annoyed at the person in front of me for raising their hands up, when I realized that it was on the screen. IMO, watching this movie in 3D is a must.

Spartan
12-27-2009, 09:46 PM
Saw it at the Warren on the balcony level. Good experience, though I don't know why I spent $25 on balcony tix when it was really the kind of movie that makes it difficult to focus on anything but the screen. You could have put me in a box in a closet in the back with a peephole, as opposed to on the balcony, and I would have enjoyed that movie..

RedDirt717
12-27-2009, 11:31 PM
It's a combination of "Alien", "Dances With Wolves" and "Ferngully".

I saw it at the imax at quail springs in 3D. It was fine there. I've been to a "REAL" imax screen before and honestly it doesn't differ all that much. I dont think there is a "gold standard" when it comes to IMAX in my opinion.

The storyline in avatar was really pretty standard. I will say that the special effects, graphics, 3D and sci-fi twist made it one of the most entertaining movies I've ever seen. There were parts where so graphically intense it literally took my breath away.

Anyway, well worth the 11 bucks.

Karried
12-28-2009, 08:16 AM
There were parts where so graphically intense it literally took my breath away.




That is exactly how I felt! I've seen it twice.... I think I could see it another few times and not get bored!

fuzzytoad
12-28-2009, 09:06 AM
I saw it at the imax at quail springs in 3D. It was fine there. I've been to a "REAL" imax screen before and honestly it doesn't differ all that much. I dont think there is a "gold standard" when it comes to IMAX in my opinion.

I'm curious as to which "REAL" Imax screen you're comparing your experience to. A real Imax screen fills your entire field of vision with a gigantic curved screen. A Liemax screen is barely bigger than a regular movie screen.

And while there may not be a "gold standard" for Imax, there is a "standard" screen size prior to this whole "branded Imax" BS that AMC has been peddling.

"A standard IMAX screen is 22 metres (72 ft) wide and 16.1 metres (53 ft) high."

I know all this doesn't really matter to many of you. A bunch of you have absolutely no problem spending and extra $4-$7 for privilege of saying you say something at the "imax" theater. The rest of us want a true IMAX experience and will drive to another city if we have to instead of providing money to a company which has no qualms about lying to its customers.

Of Sound Mind
12-28-2009, 09:16 AM
We went to the theater and bought the Advance tickets in person, about a week before 12/24 (of course, had no idea we'd have to brave a blizzard!) ... we each paid $7 for Imax 3D and my son was $6 (age 12) total - 7 people.

When I looked online afterward, the tix were $11.00 each - I was thinking maybe when we got to the theater with our tix they would say it was a mistake but no one did.

Something I found interesting... the mall at Quail Springs was like a ghost town on Christmas Eve! (blizzard) ... But the Imax showing of Avatar was packed for both showings. Unfortunately, they probably regretted going to the theater later. When we got to the mall around 11 am the storm wasn't too bad but when we came out about 4 hours later... the storm was in full force and the parking lot was a mess. We have a huge 4 wheel drive truck (thank God) but so many cars were stuck. ugh.

Avatar on 3D Imax was incredible. I've seen Avatar twice (first time only in 3D). The second time I was just as enthralled, if not more, as I was able to notice more details. This movie is really good, seeing it on Imax in 3D is a real treat.
We had tickets to see the 4:30pm showing on Christmas Eve, but the weather was just too frightful to venture out. I'm glad we didn't, although we were very disappointed about not getting to see the movie.

We went yesterday (Sunday) morning at 9am. The theater was still at least 3/4 full, even with the icy roads.

It was a truly amazing movie, especially in 3D on their IMAX screen. It was a visual feast. Our entire family was mesmerized and couldn't stop talking about it for the rest of the day. We're ready to go back. It was well worth the wait and more than worth the money. I'm more than happy to shell out another $13 per ticket for our family to see it again. It certainly ranks in my all-time top five, if for no other reason than it being so visually stunning.

Of Sound Mind
12-28-2009, 09:21 AM
... and "God help you" to anyone who's dumb enough to fall for their crap and thinks that they're getting the real IMAX experience at AMC Quail.
When there is a "real IMAX experience" that's within 30 minutes of my home, I'll be happy to go there. Until then, the IMAX experience at AMC Quail was just fine for me and everyone else watching in that theater when I was there (based on the rousing ovation afterwards)... this "inferior" IMAX experience certainly didn't diminish in the least how much we enjoyed it.

Karried
12-28-2009, 11:21 AM
That is how I feel... Brad, try going and buying tix in Advance.. not sure if that might make a difference, but we did only pay $7 for Imax 3D. Maybe they charge more to buy them online.

Of Sound Mind
12-28-2009, 11:49 AM
That is how I feel... Brad, try going and buying tix in Advance.. not sure if that might make a difference, but we did only pay $7 for Imax 3D. Maybe they charge more to buy them online.
I bought them online, but the service charge was waved because we have a MovieWatcher membership. Since we went early on Sunday, we actually got them for $9 each, which meant I got a credit for the difference in the way of guest passes.

Not sure how you got such a good deal. I haven't seen prices that low online or at the theater for the IMAX 3D.

In any case, it was worth $7... $9... $13... and more.

Of Sound Mind
12-28-2009, 11:57 AM
Also, for what it's worth, I have been to a true IMAX theater a few times and there is an unmistakable difference. I don't think that AMC should call that theater an IMAX theater if it's not a true IMAX theater. That's definitely the fault of the IMAX people; can't really blame AMC for trying to market it that way.

Having said that, I don't think I would have enjoyed it as much in a true IMAX theater. It would have been too much and too big to take in all that was going in — i.e. it would have been too visually overwhelming and, in my opinion, taken AWAY from the experience. The true IMAX theaters are cool, but they can be almost too visually stimulating to the point that my aging brain can't absorb it all and it is sometimes frustrating.

Call me "dumb enough to fall for their crap", but AMC's "IMAX" experience was a perfectly enjoyable experience for me as well as my family and just about everyone I know who's been.

Matt
12-28-2009, 12:55 PM
When there is a "real IMAX experience" that's within 30 minutes of my home, I'll be happy to go there. Until then, the IMAX experience at AMC Quail was just fine for me and everyone else watching in that theater when I was there (based on the rousing ovation afterwards)... this "inferior" IMAX experience certainly didn't diminish in the least how much we enjoyed it.

. . .

Call me "dumb enough to fall for their crap", but AMC's "IMAX" experience was a perfectly enjoyable experience for me as well as my family and just about everyone I know who's been.

Hey, if you know the difference and are okay with settling for a compromised experience, then great. My post wasn't directed at you. It was directed at the throngs of people who don't know any better going in and won't know any better coming out, because AMC and IMAX certainly aren't going to tell them.

And may God have mercy on their souls.

MadMonk
12-28-2009, 01:01 PM
So, how does the "IMAX" screen at Quail compare size-wise to the screen in the Warren's grand auditorium? When we went, were a bit late and had to sit near the front (4th row), so it almost seemed like an IMAX experience! I plan to go back, but watch it from further back.

kevinpate
12-28-2009, 02:26 PM
My lads, recently 21 and nearing 17, slipped out to spend some brother time and see this the other night.

It earned their stomp of approval.

fuzzytoad
12-28-2009, 02:26 PM
So, how does the "IMAX" screen at Quail compare size-wise to the screen in the Warren's grand auditorium?

It doesn't compare.

The screen you're talking about at Warren's is very close to IMAX(real) size, like 80ft X 50ft

The Liemax at Quail is slightly larger than a standard movie screen at 58x28 feet.

RedDirt717
12-28-2009, 02:56 PM
I'm curious as to which "REAL" Imax screen you're comparing your experience to. A real Imax screen fills your entire field of vision with a gigantic curved screen. A Liemax screen is barely bigger than a regular movie screen.

And while there may not be a "gold standard" for Imax, there is a "standard" screen size prior to this whole "branded Imax" BS that AMC has been peddling.

"A standard IMAX screen is 22 metres (72 ft) wide and 16.1 metres (53 ft) high."

I know all this doesn't really matter to many of you. A bunch of you have absolutely no problem spending and extra $4-$7 for privilege of saying you say something at the "imax" theater. The rest of us want a true IMAX experience and will drive to another city if we have to instead of providing money to a company which has no qualms about lying to its customers.

I've been to one in Tempe, AZ and Washington DC

There was a size difference, but only someone concentrating on minor details would really notice. It wasn't so much of a difference that I wouldn't go watch another movie there and pay the same price.

fuzzytoad
12-28-2009, 03:34 PM
I've been to one in Tempe, AZ and Washington DC

There was a size difference, but only someone concentrating on minor details would really notice.

I'm not sure what your definition of "minor details" is, but I'd like to think that most people are observant enough to notice this difference:

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/zz1bcb112e.jpg

If not, then I apologize 100% to the theater owners I accused of being deceitful and ripping people off. And I'll make sure I'm *extra* careful on the road with all these people who are so adept at spatial awareness...

**edit, that wasn't the picture I wanted to link, but there's a better(non-hotlinkable) example here: http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/assets_c/2009/05/tdk-imax-compare-8023.html

RedDirt717
12-29-2009, 09:15 AM
Actually IQ wise, my spatial intelligence is far more advanced than most. The point is, for most people the size doesn't matter. Big is big.

In fact I'd wager that the screen size being smaller actually helped many with the experience. On other larger screens, I've felt overwhelmed and had a hard time concentrating on the actual plot. What ever your personal beef is with IMAX is a personal opinion but it seems the overwhelming populations doesn't give two ****s if the screen is a mile high, or standard theater size. So the attack on the "spatially challenged" isn't warranted. So you seem to be making a lot of noise about nothing.

fuzzytoad
12-29-2009, 09:45 AM
Actually IQ wise, my spatial intelligence is far more advanced than most. The point is, for most people the size doesn't matter. Big is big.

In fact I'd wager that the screen size being smaller actually helped many with the experience. On other larger screens, I've felt overwhelmed and had a hard time concentrating on the actual plot. What ever your personal beef is with IMAX is a personal opinion but it seems the overwhelming populations doesn't give two ****s if the screen is a mile high, or standard theater size. So the attack on the "spatially challenged" isn't warranted. So you seem to be making a lot of noise about nothing.

That's why I gave a link to the other picture which shows the key element. It isn't just about size. The audience member isn't getting to see the entire view in one of these fake IMAX theaters, but they're still paying the same price as if they were in a real one.

I'm making noise about the fact that AMC and IMAX are trying to pass off something in a deceitful manner.

If someone doesn't give two ****s that they're being ripped off, that's awesome for them. It's the sort of attitude I've grown to expect from the average OKC resident.

Everyone wants this city to become the best it can be, yet we should all happily accept a mediocre facsimile of something as nice as an IMAX theater.

I mean, if we're all fine and dandy with half-assing things around here, why don't we save some money and just build a half-court practice facility for the Thunder? It's basically the same thing.

RedDirt717
12-29-2009, 12:17 PM
It's not the same thing, the movie is exactly the same and the "experience" is not that much different.

We don't feel like we're being ripped off. I saw Avatar with a friend from LA. Neither of us thought anything about it.

Actually I remember her specifically saying she was worried about going to the movie because she's gotten sick at 3D movies before. The AMC theater may have actually helped that. Keep making a big deal out of nothing, you're really marching alone on this one.

fuzzytoad
12-29-2009, 01:17 PM
It's not the same thing, the movie is exactly the same and the "experience" is not that much different.

No, the movies are not exactly the same. An IMAX 70mm projector uses 70mm IMAX print sources projected on a screen which can handle the extreme size of the picture.

A fake IMAX theater(or Digitial Imax, or Imax Lite or whatever you want to call it) two 2K-resolution Christie projectors running 35mm print sources(the same as any other digital theater.)

Because 70mm IMAXs are 1.44 in shape (as is the 70mm material) and digital IMAXs are 2.07 in shape you immediately lose 30% of the picture cropped top and bottom.




We don't feel like we're being ripped off. I saw Avatar with a friend from LA. Neither of us thought anything about it.


That's great that you don't feel ripped off. I would feel ripped off. Lots of people who didn't know the difference before are feeling ripped off. Enough people that the IMAX CEO, Richard Gelfond, is putting out press releases to answers the criticism.

Now, is there some reason why you think I should not be allowed to voice my displeasure with the fake IMAX theater being built in OKC instead of a real one? Is there some reason why I should not be allowed to inform people who otherwise wouldn't know that they're paying more money for something that's no different than a regular digital movie experience?(like what you can get at the Warren)

Seriously, what's wrong with me wanting the best for OKC? Tell me why I must settle for mediocracy?

Of Sound Mind
12-29-2009, 01:26 PM
Now, is there some reason why you think I should not be allowed to voice my displeasure with the fake IMAX theater being built in OKC instead of a real one? Is there some reason why I should not be allowed to inform people who otherwise wouldn't know that they're paying more money for something that's no different than a regular digital movie experience?(like what you can get at the Warren)
Not at all, but can you do it without denigrating others who simply don't care that it's not a "true" IMAX experience and thoroughly enjoyed the movie despite being "ripped off"?

As I've said previously, I've been to both types of theaters. I enjoy the classic IMAX theater, but I also enjoyed the "ripped off" AMC experience as well... and as I said previously, and others have said, I think I actually preferred the AMC experience for this movie because it was not too visually overwhelming with its intense action sequences like it could have been on the already overwhelming screen in the classic IMAX theaters.

Matt
12-29-2009, 01:33 PM
What did you guys think the chances were of OKC ever getting a real IMAX theater before this thing went in?

What do you think they are now?

fuzzytoad
12-29-2009, 01:36 PM
Not at all, but can you do it without denigrating others who simply don't care that it's not a "true" IMAX experience and thoroughly enjoyed the movie despite being "ripped off"?

I'm sorry, but I don't think I was "denigrating" anyone. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly certain I didn't outright attack or demean anyone in this thread who was satisfied with the showing at Quail's theater.

What I *do* feel I was doing was correcting those who incorrectly state that there's "no difference" between Quail's Imax and a real Imax, especially since a large majority of OKC residents have no basis for comparison and might easily be swayed into paying an extra charge for something that's no different from the digital theaters at the Warren.

RedDirt717
12-29-2009, 03:00 PM
I'm sorry, but I don't think I was "denigrating" anyone. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly certain I didn't outright attack or demean anyone in this thread who was satisfied with the showing at Quail's theater.

What I *do* feel I was doing was correcting those who incorrectly state that there's "no difference" between Quail's Imax and a real Imax, especially since a large majority of OKC residents have no basis for comparison and might easily be swayed into paying an extra charge for something that's no different from the digital theaters at the Warren.


"I'll make sure I'm *extra* careful on the road with all these people who are so adept at spatial awareness..."

No one is saying you shouldn't voice your opinion, where I have a problem here is basically saying people are slow because the masses in OKC don't agree that some kind of grand injustice has been committed.

fuzzytoad
12-29-2009, 03:17 PM
No one is saying you shouldn't voice your opinion, where I have a problem here is basically saying people are slow because the masses in OKC don't agree that some kind of grand injustice has been committed.

Ok, so now we're playing the "let's take everything another person says out of context so we can make them look evil" game.

F this, I'm so f*cking sorry I got upset with the fact that more bullsh*t is being built in OKC instead of the real thing

I'm even more upset that so many people in this city are perfectly happy with mediocre crap.

RedDirt717
12-29-2009, 03:25 PM
Ok, so now we're playing the "let's take everything another person says out of context so we can make them look evil" game.

F this, I'm so f*cking sorry I got upset with the fact that more bullsh*t is being built in OKC instead of the real thing

I'm even more upset that so many people in this city are perfectly happy with mediocre crap.

Like what else? What else is being built that's mediocre?