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Looks like a couple of great events. Soooo much more happening in OKC these days than just 10 years ago.
Building permit today for the old Dye Furniture and Matress building just east of Saint's Pub.
This is the building recently acquired by Mason & Co. of 9th Street fame.
Permit is for renovating the restrooms and future use is shown as "retail".
Looks like The Mule will be open tonight with just 3.2 beer and snacks, then have 33 other beers next week:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A2yFm-1CUAAZ5C1.jpg:large
BBatesokc 09-14-2012, 05:10 PM Looks like The Mule will be open tonight with just 3.2 beer and snacks, then have 33 other beers next week:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A2yFm-1CUAAZ5C1.jpg:large
Its Live on the Plaza tonight - I hope to stop in there while we are attending the festivities.
A couple of photos from The Mule:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A2y0bnACIAEhK5u.jpg:large
https://instagr.am/p/PlNSjqShiF/media/?size=l
soonerguru 09-16-2012, 04:52 PM Does the Mule offer anything to eat other than grilled cheese sandwiches?
OKC plaza 09-17-2012, 09:35 AM While a few are artisan grilled cheese sandwiches, most of the menu is hot melts. They will offer soup, salad and sides of fries and onion rings.
wschnitt 09-17-2012, 09:38 AM I had such a great time at Live on the Plaza last friday. The Mule was really good.
soonerguru 09-17-2012, 10:43 AM While a few are artisan grilled cheese sandwiches, most of the menu is hot melts. They will offer soup, salad and sides of fries and onion rings.
Healthy.
wschnitt 09-19-2012, 09:50 AM Healthy.
If people want healthy a bar is not the place to go in the first place.
BBatesokc 09-19-2012, 09:51 AM Healthy.
Why would there be any expectation of a healthy menu? People sell what a larger audience will buy. I eat healthy and I love me some good grilled cheese! We spent all our time last weekend at the Urban Wineworks location drinking and eating on the patio/sidewalk. Will have to try a sandwich at the Mule next visit.
BBatesokc 09-19-2012, 10:48 AM Question: Is The Mule open now regular hours? Tried this wacky idea of checking their website for current information - silly me, local restaurants have this weird idea that there is zero need to update their websites.
No, they are not fully open yet.
I follow their FB/Twitter updates and they are still working trying to get open "soon".
BBatesokc 09-19-2012, 10:55 AM No, they are not fully open yet.
I follow their FB/Twitter updates and they are still working trying to get open "soon".
Which sort of defeats the purpose of their (pretty cool website) that has a countdown to opening that is now sitting at 0:00:00 with no further updates.
soonerguru 09-19-2012, 11:44 AM If people want healthy a bar is not the place to go in the first place.
Thanks, Ms. Nation. But I thought you ended your crusade during Prohibition?
It is reasonable to have a couple of beers and desire to eat food that isn't a carb / saturated fat gut explosion? Healthy eaters are allowed a few cocktails now and then.
soonerguru 09-19-2012, 11:46 AM Why would there be any expectation of a healthy menu? People sell what a larger audience will buy. I eat healthy and I love me some good grilled cheese! We spent all our time last weekend at the Urban Wineworks location drinking and eating on the patio/sidewalk. Will have to try a sandwich at the Mule next visit.
OK. Thanks for answering my question. Since I'm not a huge grilled cheese sandwich fan, I guess there's nothing at the Mule for me. You make a great surrogate.
wschnitt 09-19-2012, 02:15 PM Thanks, Ms. Nation. But I thought you ended your crusade during Prohibition?
It is reasonable to have a couple of beers and desire to eat food that isn't a carb / saturated fat gut explosion? Healthy eaters are allowed a few cocktails now and then.
What's with the name calling?
If you were looking to cut carbs, why are you drinking beer?
OKC plaza 09-19-2012, 03:20 PM If everything goes as planned they will be open Friday. They got the CA yesterday, getting ABLE today. I finally got a chance to look at the full menu today. There are 4 salads, about 10 sandwiches, sides of soup, salad, fries, onion rings and a massive beer, wine, liquor and cocktail list. I'm very impressed with the menu. We are excited to have them. They are great guys who are not only building a great concept for OKC, but adding to our community here in the Plaza. Hope you all will give them a try!
BBatesokc 09-19-2012, 08:00 PM OK. Thanks for answering my question. Since I'm not a huge grilled cheese sandwich fan, I guess there's nothing at the Mule for me. You make a great surrogate.
Actually, your question had already been answered when you decided to give your very enlightening "Healthy." reply. It is that reply I was addressing (I sorta figured that was obvious considering I quoted it). And yeah, guess there's nothing at the Mule for you (darn).
Oh, and the name calling towards wschnitt...... classy!
How did a thread about a grilled cheese restaurant turn contentious??
Everybody, let's please move on. Thanks.
New mural coming to the Plaza District.
One on top to replace the one below:
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/plazamural1.jpg
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/plazamural2.jpg
Also, The Mule posted on Friday that they are open for business.
BBatesokc 09-23-2012, 11:52 AM Maybe I'm missing something, but I liked the style of the previous mural - the new one looks like something you'd see on a Scientology mural. But, what do I know - I'm one of the apparent few who thought a sign of a woman urinating above the Womb Gallery was tacky.
I don't find the Saints mural 'tacky' it's just very alien looking to me. I'm sure it has some meaning that is way over my head and education.
Praedura 09-23-2012, 12:53 PM I like the style and coloration of the new mural. But... is that alien giving us the finger?
Praedura 09-23-2012, 12:55 PM Oh, and notice the wooden palettes converted to bike racks (the latest urban trend?)
CuatrodeMayo 09-23-2012, 01:48 PM Oh, and notice the wooden palettes converted to bike racks (the latest urban trend?)
They were constructed as part of Better Block back in May: Better Block OKC | May 18-19, 2012 (http://www.betterblockokc.com/)
Not a fan of the mural. Which is unfortunate for me since I can see it from my porch...=(
Maybe it's a saintly urologist.
Here is the sandwich portion of The Mule's menu.
They just posted they are taking a couple of more days to recalibrate then continue with their soft opening.
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/mule1.jpg
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/mule2.jpg
metro 09-24-2012, 10:28 AM Healthy.
You want a bar to serve tofu and kale chips?
BBatesokc 09-24-2012, 10:47 AM You want a bar to serve tofu and kale chips?
Mmmmmm, Kale Chips! To me they are like black licorice - I don't really like the flavor of either, but I can't stop eating them.
The Mule looks like it is fully open now, every Tuesday through Saturday 11A - 2A.
Who wants to provide the first review??
OSUPeterson 10-02-2012, 10:37 AM The Mule looks like it is fully open now, every Tuesday through Saturday 11A - 2A.
Who wants to provide the first review??
I went at noon during the plaza fest hoping to get some good food and drinks and watch the baylor v WVU game.
The crew working seemed to be struggling, maybe hungover, that morning. Normally not a bad thing that I would complain about, but not wise seeing as the Mule was going to be slammed due to the festival and the fact it was raining.
Waited over an hour for 2 grilled cheeses. The lost our ticket a couple times. The guy also couldn't separate my order and my buddies so we could pay separately at the bar when we ordered, but whatever. Almost 50 bucks for 4 beers and 2 sandwiches. they do not have a great system of tracking your order either. They just take the name off the credit card used to order, but if you need to ask them about why your order is taking forever, they seem to struggle to find out anything. They also seemed to not care that we had to wait over an hour. I wasn't looking for anything free, but seeing someone care that we waited that long would have been nice.
We had been told by the girl working that one sandwich with a soup side would be plenty to split for 2 people at lunch. Now, my fiance and I are not crazy huge eaters, and I totally disagree with the normal oversized portions of oklahoma food you normally see, but what the Mule offered was not enough to share for anyone. Sandwich was the size of standard bread slices from the store, about .5 in thick. While my portofcatoosa was good, it seemed like it was not seasoned at all. The other sandwich my friend got, was a 5 cheese grilled cheese, and it tasted like something worse than what anyone on here can make at home with white bread and kraft slices.
The fries we got with the order were really good. The tomato soup was very very bland. Needs seasoning. At least salt and pepper.
I was hoping for some interesting local breads to be used, and some interesting combos, nice and thick, but was disappointed.
Now, for disclaimer, they had a very basic menu of only 3 sandwiches available, so maybe they have better offerings in store. On the flip side, if you only offer 3 sandwiches, you should not take more than 10 min to make 2 of them. Slammed or not slammed, hungover or not.
The prices for those 3 sandwiches were higher than what was listed in their regular menu. So I guess during special events, they will offer less and charge more. I don't really understand why they would do that, nothing good can come from overcharging people. At least when you do it, please remove the normal menus so I don't know I am being overcharged per normal times. All the sandwiches were 10 bucks with either fries, or a couple shots worth of soup. Way overpriced for what you received. My fiance has some pictures I think that I will try and post later.
I was surprised at the amount of small children running around inside. I guess it is a restaurant and all, but I had more of a bar feeling when I was imagining this place in my mind. That will definitely deter me from coming as often.
I will probably go back and give them another try, hopefully the prices are not still increased, and I don't have the crazy wait time. Im really hoping this was a one off horrible experience. I would love to see this place succeed so that I have more eating options in the neighborhood. On the upside, we all ran over to Saints and had an amazing meal there. We were all still really hungry and did not want to spend another 50 bucks for another round of beer and 2 sandwiches.
dankrutka 10-04-2012, 12:48 AM Who wants to provide the first review??
Here you go: The Mule totes first-love flavors to the mountaintop | NewsOK.com (http://newsok.com/the-mule-totes-first-love-flavors-to-the-mountaintop/article/3715138)
From NewsOK:
http://cdn2.newsok.biz/cache/r620-00de1514adee531ce97f7c24f4f4a810.jpg
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/mule3.jpg
http://cdn2.newsok.biz/cache/r620-c2468ed05c09dceacd8cc99530b90c01.jpg
Urbanized 10-04-2012, 03:15 PM Whimsical exposed electrical conduit. That's a new one to me. I like it!
onthestrip 10-04-2012, 04:39 PM Whimsical exposed electrical conduit. That's a new one to me. I like it!
Kinda diggin that too.
jedicurt 10-04-2012, 04:45 PM if it ran in an effective pattern rather than their almost random pattern, i think i would like it more... perhaps i need to see it in person, but i think it looks kinda tacky. but then again, if the whole world met my tastes, it would probably be a pretty boring place to live
Teo9969 10-04-2012, 04:53 PM I like it -^(':')^-
Teo9969 10-04-2012, 06:28 PM I just got home from dinner @ The Mule.
I thought it was really good for what it is. The Food was good, nothing over the top fantastic, but nothing is much more than $10 either. I don't personally like the fries seasoned with curry, but it is an interesting take on the french fry. The beer list is not great, but it is heavy on the local side, so you have to appreciate that. The service was good. Pacing worked well for us. My biggest criticism is that they didn't get silverware to us promptly (we didn't ask) and it was only a minor inconvenience during the appetizer. If that's my biggest complaint (a minor oversight) I thought it was really good.
New $75K building permit to remodel the old laundry into a restaurant.
This is the building purchased by the Steve Mason group where they solicited ideas from the public.
Is the breakfast place happening here??
OKC plaza 10-15-2012, 05:41 PM Plaza District in the running to receive $15,000 Grant : https://www.facebook.com/OvationTV/app_255394737897823
We are representing OKC and have the chance to win a $15,000 grant from Ovation TV through the Viewer's Choice Innovation Grant Program!
One of the main issues we face in the district is that the wealth of creativity happening inside the walls of the Plaza District is not being reflected outside. The district lacks in both public art and opportunities to involve the community in creating it. We will bring artists, designers, planners and the community together to conduct an area-wide design charrette to develop public art solutions for design challenges in the district and neighborhood. The resulting strategies will lay a solid and artistic foundation to pursue future funding opportunities for public art infrastructure.
In addition to our area-wide project, we will host a charrette at the elementary school for our neighborhood kids to learn about public art, placemaking, and develop a sense of stewardship for their neighborhood. The funding will pay artist and supply fees to organize both charettes and provide a materials budget to implement the first project conceived. The final results will provide a plan to pursue funding opportunities to hire artists to work with our community and instill a sense of pride of both a DIY (do it yourself) and a DIT (do it together) culture.
New $75K building permit to remodel the old laundry into a restaurant.
This is the building purchased by the Steve Mason group where they solicited ideas from the public.
Is the breakfast place happening here??
To answer my own question, no, the poster from this site (EBAH) that presented the breakfast proposal did not win out. However, he said he learned a lot and may try again elsewhere.
I was told this will be a pizza place and bar.
BTW, I went to The Mule last week and LOVED the vibe. Food was okay but I loved the feel of the place more than I had expected. Even at 5PM mid-week, there was a good crowd and energy and by the time I left around 7:30, it was packed. Lots of people going to the theater but just a good crowd in general. Felt like a really cool local bar with a nice edge to it.
With the pizza place, we've got the makings of a nice little bar district, as Saints is right there as well.
George 11-20-2012, 02:28 PM The Urban Land Institute (ULI) has an upcoming event that may be of interest to followers of the Plaza District and/or fans of The Mule...
ULI Oklahoma Presents
The Plaza Distrct: an OKC Cinderella Story
Date: Tues., December 4, 2012
Time: 5:30 - 7:00pm
Location: The Mule, 1630 N. Blackwelder (corner of NW 16th Street)
Members $20, Non-Members $30, Students $10 (Price increase after Nov. 30)
Registration includes beverages and appetizers
The Plaza District is a Cinderella Story, built on the hard work and grassroots efforts of its local community. A glowing New York Times article states the area has been "radically transformed over the last five years." ULI examines the success of the Plaza District with its key developer, Jeff Struble, and its newest retail business, The Mule restaurant. Join us in learning how local developers and start-up businesses come together to create a revitalization success story.
Panelists:
Jeff Struble is the owner of Struble Construction, Inc. and Struble Properties, LLC. A self-made real estate entrepreneur, Jeff has successfully developed residential, office, and retail properties in the Plaza District and throughout Oklahoma City.
Owners/Founders of The Mule: Joey Morris, Cody Rowan, and John Harris. From their days as friends and students at OSU, the co-founders of The Mule have been preparing to launch their own restaurant. Recently described by the New York Times as "in a building that used to be known as a brothel, a new restaurant devoted to gourmet grilled-cheese sandwiches," The Mule is rapidly achieving wide acclaim and a devoted following.
Join us Tues., Dec. 4. Click here to register. (http://bit.ly/UGGkeu)
George 12-03-2012, 12:35 PM The Urban Land Institute (ULI) has an upcoming event that may be of interest to followers of the Plaza District and/or fans of The Mule...
ULI Oklahoma Presents
The Plaza Distrct: an OKC Cinderella Story
Date: Tues., December 4, 2012
Time: 5:30 - 7:00pm
Location: The Mule, 1630 N. Blackwelder (corner of NW 16th Street)
Members $20, Non-Members $30, Students $10 (Price increase after Nov. 30)
Registration includes beverages and appetizers
The Plaza District is a Cinderella Story, built on the hard work and grassroots efforts of its local community. A glowing New York Times article states the area has been "radically transformed over the last five years." ULI examines the success of the Plaza District with its key developer, Jeff Struble, and its newest retail business, The Mule restaurant. Join us in learning how local developers and start-up businesses come together to create a revitalization success story.
Panelists:
Jeff Struble is the owner of Struble Construction, Inc. and Struble Properties, LLC. A self-made real estate entrepreneur, Jeff has successfully developed residential, office, and retail properties in the Plaza District and throughout Oklahoma City.
Owners/Founders of The Mule: Joey Morris, Cody Rowan, and John Harris. From their days as friends and students at OSU, the co-founders of The Mule have been preparing to launch their own restaurant. Recently described by the New York Times as "in a building that used to be known as a brothel, a new restaurant devoted to gourmet grilled-cheese sandwiches," The Mule is rapidly achieving wide acclaim and a devoted following.
Join us Tues., Dec. 4. Click here to register. (http://bit.ly/UGGkeu)
A good number of people have signed up to attend this event, so we have only a few spots left. That said, because the OKCTalk community is so interested and so interesting, if there are any OKCTalkers who are big fans of the Plaza District and would really like to attend this event, if you PM me I will put your name on the reservation list for the ULI Member price ($20, which can be paid at the door). Thanks.
dankrutka 12-26-2012, 03:43 PM They posted last night that Pie Junkie (HOME - piejunkie (http://piejunkieokc.com/)) is moving into the Plaza District. Seems like a good addition in isolation, but the Plaza could really use another full bar...
If there is anything that OKC lacks to be considered a major city it is a mass of bars in a walkable local area. I've always felt that Saints, a couple bars, a live music place, and then some complimentary restaurant then bars (e.g., the Mule, new pizza place) could creat a nice mass, but it's looking more like they'll just have one bar, which is disappointing. The fact that Tulsa's bar dense, walkable scene (e.g., Blue Dome, Cherry Street, Brookside, Brady District) is dramatically better than OKC's should be a cause for concern as recent college grads see it as a quality of life issue. Bricktown is a good, walkable area, but it's also more geared towards clubs or chain locations. OKC has the market covered on dense local food areas (Midown, 23rd Street, Automobile Alley...), but a similar local bar scene remains spread out and weak.
bchris02 12-26-2012, 04:44 PM They posted last night that Pie Junkie (HOME - piejunkie (http://piejunkieokc.com/)) is moving into the Plaza District. Seems like a good addition in isolation, but the Plaza could really use another full bar...
If there is anything that OKC lacks to be considered a major city it is a mass of bars in a walkable local area. I've always felt that Saints, a couple bars, a live music place, and then some complimentary restaurant then bars (e.g., the Mule, new pizza place) could creat a nice mass, but it's looking more like they'll just have one bar, which is disappointing. The fact that Tulsa's bar dense, walkable scene (e.g., Blue Dome, Cherry Street, Brookside, Brady District) is dramatically better than OKC's should be a cause for concern as recent college grads see it as a quality of life issue. Bricktown is a good, walkable area, but it's also more geared towards clubs or chain locations. OKC has the market covered on dense local food areas (Midown, 23rd Street, Automobile Alley...), but a similar local bar scene remains spread out and weak.
I agree. It's difficult to bar hop in OKC because everything is so spread out. OKC needs another dense, concentrated entertainment district in addition to Bricktown. A lot of younger people I know talk about Tulsa as being superior to OKC and this is probably one of the reasons.
Edit: OKC is seeing significant young professional inmigration right now because of the economy. Young professional hotspots like Seattle, Portland, SF, etc all have very high unemployment and much stiffer job competition than OKC. That said, OKC can't count on that always being the case. Unless the alarmists are right, eventually the rest of the nation will recover and I wonder if new grads will still choose OKC when they have offers in other cities as well.
BBatesokc 12-26-2012, 09:45 PM We "bar hopped" last night in Bricktown. Not much was open but in Bricktown, it is really easy to just walk door-to-door for drinks and entertainment.
Bonus, our night ended with pancakes at IHOP. :)
Are a majority of the bars in Bricktown now no cover - or do you have to pony up at each one?
lasomeday 12-26-2012, 09:56 PM I agree. It's difficult to bar hop in OKC because everything is so spread out. OKC needs another dense, concentrated entertainment district in addition to Bricktown. A lot of younger people I know talk about Tulsa as being superior to OKC and this is probably one of the reasons.
Edit: OKC is seeing significant young professional inmigration right now because of the economy. Young professional hotspots like Seattle, Portland, SF, etc all have very high unemployment and much stiffer job competition than OKC. That said, OKC can't count on that always being the case. Unless the alarmists are right, eventually the rest of the nation will recover and I wonder if new grads will still choose OKC when they have offers in other cities as well.
I don't know where you guys hang out but the cool bar hopping area is around 51st and Classen, Edna's, Drunken Fry, and Speak Easy are great bars. They may not be next door to each other but we walk to all of them. And one time we walked from Sipango's, Cafe Nova, and The Lobby to them.
dankrutka 12-27-2012, 12:51 AM I don't know where you guys hang out but the cool bar hopping area is around 51st and Classen, Edna's, Drunken Fry, and Speak Easy are great bars. They may not be next door to each other but we walk to all of them. And one time we walked from Sipango's, Cafe Nova, and The Lobby to them.
That is probably the best scene in OKC and all you have to do to get from Edna's to the other bars is... WALK ACROSS A HIGHWAY! It's classic OKC. This and Western are the closest you get to a dense, local bar scene. Again, Bricktown is fine, but it's not really geared towards the hip, yuppy crowd. It's more for tourists and club-goers. The young urban scene (from yuppies to hipsters) need a better place to bar hop. Plaza (just Saint's) or Midtown (Louie's, McNellie's, & sometimes the Cafe Do Brazil rooftop bar) would be good options, but bar only places won't open there for some reason. Autmobile Alley is ideally suited for a bar scene, but has zero. 23rd street has potential with Grandad's starting things off... Are the liquor laws to blame? Doesn't Tulsa have the same liquor laws?
onthestrip 12-27-2012, 09:51 AM That is probably the best scene in OKC and all you have to do to get from Edna's to the other bars is... WALK ACROSS A HIGHWAY! It's classic OKC. This and Western are the closest you get to a dense, local bar scene. Again, Bricktown is fine, but it's not really geared towards the hip, yuppy crowd. It's more for tourists and club-goers. The young urban scene (from yuppies to hipsters) need a better place to bar hop. Plaza (just Saint's) or Midtown (Louie's, McNellie's, & sometimes the Cafe Do Brazil rooftop bar) would be good options, but bar only places won't open there for some reason. Autmobile Alley is ideally suited for a bar scene, but has zero. 23rd street has potential with Grandad's starting things off... Are the liquor laws to blame? Doesn't Tulsa have the same liquor laws?
I think OKC just doesnt have any good bar entrepreneurs. Its either a dive bar, a large coorporate/chain type place in Bricktown or a restaurant that has a bar. There are really no nice, just strictly a bar type places. Nova is fairly nice but havent been in forever due to the younger and more annoying crowd. Other than that I cant think of many other nicely finished out bars.
I think OKC just doesnt have any good bar entrepreneurs.
Great point.
We have lots of very good local restaurant operators but no one like Elliot Nelson.
LakeEffect 12-27-2012, 10:06 AM Great point.
We have lots of very good local restaurant operators but no one like Elliot Nelson.
And even his places are almost always food with alcohol places...
wsucougz 12-27-2012, 02:14 PM 23rd street has potential with Grandad's starting things off
Blue Note, Cookies I might add.
kevinpate 12-27-2012, 05:12 PM I never understood the attraction of bar hopping. I much preferred settling in with friends at one place, even if we stayed for hours. To each their own.
Spartan 12-27-2012, 09:46 PM I don't know where you guys hang out but the cool bar hopping area is around 51st and Classen, Edna's, Drunken Fry, and Speak Easy are great bars. They may not be next door to each other but we walk to all of them. And one time we walked from Sipango's, Cafe Nova, and The Lobby to them.
I was about to say...the Hipster Triangle gets no respect. When you bar hop (or crawl) up there you also begin to realize the connectivity issues (and potential) between Classen and Western.
Spartan 12-27-2012, 10:06 PM Another thing is...that void of a district-wide nightlife draw is exactly why the Plaza does Live At the Plaza
okcustu 12-28-2012, 05:25 PM They posted last night that Pie Junkie (HOME - piejunkie (http://piejunkieokc.com/)) is moving into the Plaza District. Seems like a good addition in isolation, but the Plaza could really use another full bar...
If there is anything that OKC lacks to be considered a major city it is a mass of bars in a walkable local area. I've always felt that Saints, a couple bars, a live music place, and then some complimentary restaurant then bars (e.g., the Mule, new pizza place) could creat a nice mass, but it's looking more like they'll just have one bar, which is disappointing. The fact that Tulsa's bar dense, walkable scene (e.g., Blue Dome, Cherry Street, Brookside, Brady District) is dramatically better than OKC's should be a cause for concern as recent college grads see it as a quality of life issue. Bricktown is a good, walkable area, but it's also more geared towards clubs or chain locations. OKC has the market covered on dense local food areas (Midown, 23rd Street, Automobile Alley...), but a similar local bar scene remains spread out and weak.
You took the words right out of my mouth. I think it boils down to the fact that Tulsa is just way more dense and I think we have too many irons in the fire instead of really trying to make sure districts hit critical mass.
ljbab728 12-29-2012, 02:35 AM You took the words right out of my mouth. I think it boils down to the fact that Tulsa is just way more dense and I think we have too many irons in the fire instead of really trying to make sure districts hit critical mass.
LOL, it's kind of silly to say we have too many irons in the fire. There is not one entity controlling all of the districts in OKC that could accomplish what you want. The districts in Tulsa that people like aren't that way because anyone tried to make sure that they hit a critical mass before some other area was developed.
adaniel 12-29-2012, 03:35 AM OKC's bar scene can be a bit divey at times. No doubt a dive bar can hit the spot sometimes, but it would be nice to go to a place where I didn't have to inhale cigarette smoke.
I will say that Western Avenue is quite dense and walkable and I and many other people have gone up and down it on a night out.
I also find the notion that the bar scene in Tulsa as "dramatically better" pretty laughable, and I'm in the coveted young professional demographic. Please name one bar in Tulsa that also doesn't front as a restaurant during the day (the only place I can think of is the Max Retropub).
dankrutka 12-29-2012, 11:48 AM First, Western is either OKC's best or 2nd best local, walkable bar scene with it's 3 or 4 bars. I like Western, but just 3 or 4 bars is not much. That's pathetic for a city the size of OKC. I stand by the statement that Tulsa's scene is dramatically better. And I don't care if a place serves food during the day if it's primarily considered a bar at night. Nova is a good example. But there are way more of those in Tulsa anyway - Just in the Brady District Crystal Pistol and Sound Pony both come to mind as bar only places... Anyway, here is the Brady District site (http://www.thebradyartsdistrict.com/map/)- take note of the number of bars near each other: It is vastly superior to anything in OKC. Same with the Blue Dome (http://bluedometulsa.com/index2.php#/home/) and they don't even include Fassler Hall which is a wonderful nearby concept. And I'd still say that Cherry Street and Brookside are both at least equal to anything in OKC.
I love OKC, and there is so much positive momentum in the City, but this is an extremely weak area for OKC if the city is trying to claim it's a "big league city." There is no other major city that lacks these types of areas like OKC does.
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