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12-09-2010, 09:24 PM
OMG! This is going to be so cool!!!!! I can't wait! Finally a staple for OKC this will get attention for sure!
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circuitboard 12-09-2010, 09:24 PM OMG! This is going to be so cool!!!!! I can't wait! Finally a staple for OKC this will get attention for sure! Platemaker 12-09-2010, 09:53 PM hmmmmm.... suprise suprise... I was right! *BIG GRIN* OKC@heart 12-09-2010, 10:04 PM Was walking by and saw the lights on the side of the building too, here are some closer pics: http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad131/LordOfDeception/photo1.jpg http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad131/LordOfDeception/photo2.jpg http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad131/LordOfDeception/photo3.jpg http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad131/LordOfDeception/photo4.jpg The coolest part is that this is just a preliminary test. These systems often take quite some time to calibrate and get functioning just so. The real capabilities of this type of system truly can be mind blowing! Pete 12-09-2010, 10:32 PM I'm wondering if they will have the capability to isolate individual panes of glass. For example, in the photos above you see one color over nine separate panes... If they can control the color on each of them at the same time, then you'd have almost unlimited graphics ability. Effectively, each pane would be like a pixel on a computer or TV screen. And I realize it's silly to get this excited about an office building but this kind of stuff is just so incredibly cool! I'm beginning to think OKC may be one of the first cities in the world to have such a light show. Thunder 12-09-2010, 10:33 PM OMG!!! This is the best Christmas present ever!!! *screams* Pete, I so love you for this! Pete 12-09-2010, 10:42 PM BTW, I was watching the live cam on Newsok.com as well as our construction cam, and they tested about a half dozen different light panels on various floors. They just flashed through a similar color sequence for each. One thing concerns me: all the tested panels were in the building indentions. In a previous interview with Devon, they said the indentions would all have LED lighting. I'm beginning to wonder if this display will only be limited to those areas rather than the whole building. shane453 12-09-2010, 11:24 PM Very exciting lights! I'm beginning to think OKC may be one of the first cities in the world to have such a light show. Do a YouTube Search for Hong Kong Symphony of Light: Big Panoramic image: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/Victoria_Harbour_around_Chinese_New_Year_Night_wit h_Fireworks_and_Laser_Show.jpg http://citypictures.org/data/media/27/Hong_Kong_Symphony_of_Light.jpg Pete 12-10-2010, 09:12 AM Thanks for the tip about Hong Kong... That is very cool. I wonder if any U.S. buildings have similar exterior lighting? Mike63 12-10-2010, 09:42 AM BTW, I was watching the live cam on Newsok.com as well as our construction cam, and they tested about a half dozen different light panels on various floors. They just flashed through a similar color sequence for each. One thing concerns me: all the tested panels were in the building indentions. In a previous interview with Devon, they said the indentions would all have LED lighting. I'm beginning to wonder if this display will only be limited to those areas rather than the whole building. Maybe Installer can clarify for us. He did mention wires hanging out of the glass panels....was it all of them or just the indentions? earlywinegareth 12-10-2010, 11:06 AM If you want to see a skyscraper light show on steroids, google "Burj Khalifa Inauguration Ceremony". circuitboard 12-10-2010, 11:10 AM I googled all last night, I was not able to find a Skyscrapper in the U.S. that is using LED light panels on the exterior. I think it will be a first for the U.S. Swake2 12-10-2010, 11:30 AM Thanks for the tip about Hong Kong... That is very cool. I wonder if any U.S. buildings have similar exterior lighting? Um, I don't know if it's LED, but The BOK Center does have lights like this on the glass panels: http://www.architecturelist.com/wp-content/uploads/bokcenter-1.jpg http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSURF6C6d0OCjCHZbSgdjgMcsSfZhwwA A_zCjkvNd9zQ3I44qAoIQ http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3072/3018570955_95bf6cd3b7.jpg hhttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3072/3018570955_95bf6cd3b7.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3271/2808273264_99e9eac296.jpg Pete 12-10-2010, 11:35 AM That is definitely LED lighting on the BOK center. And I know some tall buildings use them on their crowns and in other limited ways... However, I haven't seen anything outside of Europe or Hong Kong where an entire skyscraper is lit up with LED. shane453 12-10-2010, 12:58 PM Most of Pickard Chilton's work from the last few years has almost identical cladding and similar LED capability to Devon Tower. Eighth Avenue Place in Calgary, Alberta http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb15/smashcard/IMG_3444720.jpg Houston's MainPlace http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww338/espiau1074/IMAG0405.jpg OKC@heart 12-10-2010, 01:49 PM I googled all last night, I was not able to find a Skyscrapper in the U.S. that is using LED light panels on the exterior. I think it will be a first for the U.S. There are plenty of buildings that have this capability, although arguably not many skyscrapers, but some nonetheless. Charlotte, NC the Duke Energy Center as previously discussed in this thread if my memory serves has a very animated light show. Then on a much smaller scale the Hunt Oil Company Headquarters building in Dallas has a significant light display. I am sure there are others but these are the ones that just come to mind without research. Kerry 12-10-2010, 02:01 PM You can see the Duke Energy Center light show here. http://www.wbtv.com/global/story.asp?s=12991540 Pete 12-10-2010, 02:04 PM We don't even know what the capabilities will be with Devon Tower... Will the entire facade have LED or is it just the three indentions? Is is just about projecting solid colors across the surface of the glass (this seems to be the case with those buildings in HK)? Will they be able to create graphics and detailed movements? Will it be lit up every night, either partially or fully? I haven't seen an example of any tall building in the U.S. that can do these things. There are plenty that have some LED elements but that's not what we're talking about here. And as far as the other buildings by Pickard Chilton, they aren't finished yet so how do we know what their capabilities will be? If anyone has specific answers, I'd love to hear them. Thunder 12-10-2010, 03:20 PM Will the LED lights be replaceable? They built into the glass panes. The lights won't last forever. GoThunder 12-10-2010, 03:33 PM Will the LED lights be replaceable? They built into the glass panes. The lights won't last forever. Nah. Once the lights go out they will tear down the building and start over. shane453 12-10-2010, 05:07 PM We don't even know what the capabilities will be with Devon Tower... Will the entire facade have LED or is it just the three indentions? Is is just about projecting solid colors across the surface of the glass (this seems to be the case with those buildings in HK)? Will they be able to create graphics and detailed movements? Will it be lit up every night, either partially or fully? I haven't seen an example of any tall building in the U.S. that can do these things. There are plenty that have some LED elements but that's not what we're talking about here. And as far as the other buildings by Pickard Chilton, they aren't finished yet so how do we know what their capabilities will be? If anyone has specific answers, I'd love to hear them. I'm guessing just the indentions, since that is generally how the other Pickard Chilton lighting works. As for a completed version of what we can expect, try 300 N LaSalle in Chicago, another example of almost identical cladding/lighting system by Pickard Chilton. http://www.glasssteelandstone.com/Images/US/Chicago2/200901/300NorthLaSalle-Jan08-005.jpg The idea looks to be projecting solid colors across the glass. The Hong Kong displays aren't just projected light, they are integrated flourescent and LED "intelligent lighting" systems that are choreographed with a computer program. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vrXVccMEbs from wikipedia: The HSBC Hong Kong headquarters building is one of the participating buildings in the show. The building has been installed with 716 intelligent lighting units, including 450 Martin Professional Cyclo 03 colour changing fluorescent fixtures in the glass stairwells, Martin Professional Exterior 600's and Exterior 200 fixtures on five levels, 8 search lights, and over one kilometre of LED lighting around the top. Completed by mid-December 2003, the cost of installation is estimated to be HK$5.5 million. Strongly doubt that they will be able to create graphics or specific images, but that would be cool. They will be able to change the colors and animate them. Like the bridge over the Oklahoma river or like Riverwind Casino. I'm guessing Duke Energy Center in Charlotte is also really similar to what we'll see. Basically I agree that the lighting is really really exciting and I can't wait to see it, but it's definitely not unprecedented or revolutionary. Pete 12-10-2010, 05:37 PM Shane, all those Pickard Chilton buildings have a similar look, but none have the same type of cladding as Devon. Here is a closeup of 300 North LaSalle: http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r86/aaron38/Chicago%205-23-08/IMG_1172.jpg Unlike Devon, there are no mesh metal fins running vertically and no metal cylinders running horizontally -- Devon Tower has these features framing EVERY pane of glass on the facade (apart from the innermost panes of the indentions, as shown below). The other PC buildings you referenced are different in important ways as well. While Devon is similar to other designs, it has unique features as well. This means it could have completely different capabilities, specifically the ability to have each single pane of glass have a different color / projection. And watching the tests last night, those colors were very bright. http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac263/ndmoore84/Devon%20Tower/f876a320.jpg Prunepicker 12-10-2010, 06:41 PM Here's a dumb question. Why is this thread marked sticky? installer 12-10-2010, 07:51 PM No it wont affect the height installer 12-10-2010, 07:52 PM Can someone please explain how a raised floor will effect the structure. Will there be an increase in height per floor, I noticed someone stated that 1st raised floor started 2 days ago. No it wontaffect the height installer 12-10-2010, 07:53 PM Maybe Installer can clarify for us. He did mention wires hanging out of the glass panels....was it all of them or just the indentions? I will check monday Kerry 12-10-2010, 08:49 PM Here's a dumb question. Why is this thread marked sticky? So it sticks to the top and doesn't float down in the threads. In the early days it kept people from creating multiple threads on the same topic. architect5311 12-10-2010, 09:07 PM Shane, all those Pickard Chilton buildings have a similar look, but none have the same type of cladding as Devon. Here is a closeup of 300 North LaSalle: http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r86/aaron38/Chicago%205-23-08/IMG_1172.jpg Unlike Devon, there are no mesh metal fins running vertically and no metal cylinders running horizontally -- Devon Tower has these features framing EVERY pane of glass on the facade (apart from the innermost panes of the indentions, as shown below). The other PC buildings you referenced are different in important ways as well. While Devon is similar to other designs, it has unique features as well. This means it could have completely different capabilities, specifically the ability to have each single pane of glass have a different color / projection. And watching the tests last night, those colors were very bright. http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac263/ndmoore84/Devon%20Tower/f876a320.jpg Pete, not true, please refer to Posts #2900 & #2902... Pete 12-10-2010, 10:42 PM My point was that no other building has the same vertical fin / horizontal tube configuration. Not even that one in Houston -- and that's only over part of the building anyway. architect5311 12-11-2010, 11:05 AM My point was that no other building has the same vertical fin / horizontal tube configuration. Not even that one in Houston -- and that's only over part of the building anyway. Pete, after closer look, I agree with you. The horizontal tubes appear to act as conduit for power feed to the LED system which is "edge" lighting the vertical fins from behind. IMO Perhaps "Installer" can give us some info on this..... Kerry 12-11-2010, 11:16 AM Will the LED lights be replaceable? They built into the glass panes. The lights won't last forever. For the most part - yes they will last forever (unless these is something wrong with the bulbs in manufacturing). Many manufacturers say they last 100,000 hours. Keep in mind that is 100,000 hours of being on. Burn out won't be a problem. Thunder 12-11-2010, 11:23 AM For the most part - yes they will last forever (unless these is something wrong with the bulbs in manufacturing). Many manufacturers say they last 100,000 hours. Keep in mind that is 100,000 hours of being on. Burn out won't be a problem. It depends how active the lights are with all the blinking and show. OKCisOK4me 12-11-2010, 11:50 AM It depends how active the lights are with all the blinking and show. They're not going to be active just because you want them too. They'll last for plenty long. installer 12-11-2010, 12:05 PM My point was that no other building has the same vertical fin / horizontal tube configuration. Not even that one in Houston -- and that's only over part of the building anyway. Ill check monday OKCisOK4me 12-11-2010, 01:26 PM For the guy that fixes it...cam is stuck on 8:37 this morning. Pete 12-11-2010, 01:49 PM The appropriate people have been notified about the construction cam -- thanks for the heads-up. The reason I'm going on about the Devon cladding is that they appear to be able to isolate each pane of glass for light projection. I have no idea if this is what the system will end up doing, but because each pane is separated from others by borders of pretty good depth on all sides, that's very different than the other systems on the other buildings we've been talking about. A big part of my interest is the hope that this will be a truly special and somewhat unique capability. Mike63 12-12-2010, 05:40 PM I see a blue glow in the vicinity of the light test. Is something still on around a corner? I have seen it everynight since the first "lighting". Kerry 12-12-2010, 09:45 PM Devon Tower will have nothing on these LED sheep. D2FX9rviEhw kevinpate 12-13-2010, 05:50 AM That was rather fun. Thanks Kerry. hipsterdoofus 12-13-2010, 11:53 AM Kind of silly but I hadn't even paid attention to the reflection of other buildings in the windows now....pretty cool: http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5025/devonconstructioncam.jpg OKCisOK4me 12-13-2010, 01:41 PM Yeah, you can see the Oklahoma Tower twice (among other buildings). From the current cam shot, I can tell that they've started windowing the 15th level. Platemaker 12-13-2010, 03:47 PM Kind of silly but I hadn't even paid attention to the reflection of other buildings in the windows now....pretty cool: The reflection of the Colcord neon sign would make an especially nice photo. Platemaker 12-13-2010, 03:50 PM I see a blue glow in the vicinity of the light test. Is something still on around a corner? I have seen it everynight since the first "lighting". The park at Main and Robinson, between the IRS building and Corporate Tower, is lit in all blue lights. I noticed that it reflects on the tower when looking from the east at night. installer 12-13-2010, 09:18 PM it looks like the leds are only going to be on the indentions i only see wires there they are embedded inside the glass fin steel molding thats holding it Pete 12-13-2010, 09:21 PM That's a bit of a bummer but thanks for the great information, installer. KayneMo 12-14-2010, 02:46 AM Could you tell me the process of how you did this in SketchUp? Or, better yet, could you submit your model of Devon Tower into the Google 3D Warehouse? The models they currently have do not represent the tower very well. Your model, however, represents it exquisitely! I was going to attempt to make one myself (in reference to my first question), but I can see that yours is very accurately depicted and probably far better than I could do. I would love it if you could make it where I could download your model from the 3D Warehouse so I could use it my SketchUp files (I make various visionary versions of how I depict Oklahoma City in the near future). I would appreciate it very much! -KM, student at OU College of Architecture holm1231 12-14-2010, 01:30 PM I wonder if the reason why they keep that slot open of the glass panels, on the N.W. side, is because of wind drafts. kind of like when you have an open door or window on one side of your house will cause doors and windows on the other side to close real fast. I just figured that because the open side, where the construction elevator is, could cause windows to be broken or cause dangerous wind drifts that can affect work and workers! Any other reasons why they keep that slot open? sethsrott 12-14-2010, 01:47 PM it looks like the leds are only going to be on the indentions i only see wires there they are embedded inside the glass fin steel molding thats holding it "Exterior glass panels have been installed on the tower’s third and fourth floors. Panels in the tower’s indented notches feature vertical LED lighting elements that will illuminate at night upon the project’s completion." From page 4 of the September 21st Devon Update OKCisOK4me 12-14-2010, 02:00 PM I wonder if the reason why they keep that slot open of the glass panels, on the N.W. side, is because of wind drafts. kind of like when you have an open door or window on one side of your house will cause doors and windows on the other side to close real fast. I just figured that because the open side, where the construction elevator is, could cause windows to be broken or cause dangerous wind drifts that can affect work and workers! Any other reasons why they keep that slot open? I'm not for certain, but in the actual slot there's windows above the lip of the rotunda. One each wall side there is no lip so I think they're going to tie those windows into the rotunda and then window it from there on up. It could be a circulation issue though. OKC@heart 12-14-2010, 03:16 PM I have been hankering for some shots of what is taking place on the Rotunda as of late as well as the Garden Wing. If any of you happen to be in the area some great shots would be so awesome! It would be cool to see some evening shots as well now since it has been a while. I would imagine it is getting pretty darn close to overtaking Oklahoma Tower. Thanks in advance to all who devote the time to provide such awesome images for this forum! It is awesome now that the mass of the garden wing is taking form how full this will make the block, and will create a much more urban feel on the West side of the project. That is a definite plus SkyWestOKC 12-14-2010, 03:29 PM I was over at Freddie's Tires on Reno and May yesterday. Looking through the window at about 530pm was spectacular. The glass is highly reflective as we all know, and at dusk the glass was glowing orange/red. Very impressive, can't wait to see it fully completed. Rover 12-14-2010, 03:35 PM It depends how active the lights are with all the blinking and show. Let's see. 100,000 hour life = 68 years at 4 hrs. per night. I think I will worry about something else rather than the bulbs burning out. OKCisOK4me 12-14-2010, 03:47 PM I have been hankering for some shots of what is taking place on the Rotunda as of late as well as the Garden Wing. If any of you happen to be in the area some great shots would be so awesome! It would be cool to see some evening shots as well now since it has been a while. I would imagine it is getting pretty darn close to overtaking Oklahoma Tower. Thanks in advance to all who devote the time to provide such awesome images for this forum! It is awesome now that the mass of the garden wing is taking form how full this will make the block, and will create a much more urban feel on the West side of the project. That is a definite plus I drive a route to work in NW OKC that gives me a nice vantage point of the tower's progress. As of today, the top of the elevator cores are equal to or just short (looking from 5-6 miles away) of the rooftop of the Oklahoma Tower (not including the mechanical housing). hipsterdoofus 12-14-2010, 03:52 PM I drive a route to work in NW OKC that gives me a nice vantage point of the tower's progress. As of today, the top of the elevator cores are equal to or just short (looking from 5-6 miles away) of the rooftop of the Oklahoma Tower (not including the mechanical housing). Still looks a bit short to me coming from Edmond. KayneMo 12-14-2010, 04:04 PM At what height is the tower at now? KayneMo 12-14-2010, 04:10 PM Your model of Devon Tower is exquisite! Is it possible for you to upload your model into the Google 3D Warehouse? The current models they have for the tower don't represent it well. I was going to try to make one myself, but I can see that yours is probably FAR better than what I can do. Lol! I would appreciate it greatly! It would also help me represent Oklahoma City better (I make various visionary versions of downtown OKC in SketchUp). Thanks! -KWM, student at OU College of Architecture KayneMo 12-14-2010, 04:13 PM Some sketchup perspective on the location and construction progress..... http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk92/gandjdunlap/DEVONTOWER-VIEW3.jpg http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk92/gandjdunlap/DEVONTOWER-VIEW35.jpg http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk92/gandjdunlap/DEVONTOWER-VIEW4.jpg Bonus View http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk92/gandjdunlap/DEVONTOWER-VIEW7.jpg Your model of Devon Tower is exquisite! Is it possible for you to upload your model into the Google 3D Warehouse? The current models they have for the tower don't represent it well. I was going to try to make one myself, but I can see that yours is probably FAR better than what I can do. Lol! I would appreciate it greatly! It would also help me represent Oklahoma City better (I make various visionary versions of downtown OKC in SketchUp). Thanks! -KWM, student at OU College of Architecture OKCisOK4me 12-14-2010, 04:20 PM Still looks a bit short to me coming from Edmond. Like I said, it's not as tall as the mechnical housing (the small rectangular object on top of the roof of the Oklahoma Tower), hence you can't see it from the north. Be calm, you will be able to see it within the next month..lol...and I would be more than happy to take a pic to prove my point to you ("smiling" since puting a semi colon, dash and parenthesis always doesn't post)... hipsterdoofus 12-15-2010, 08:52 AM Like I said, it's not as tall as the mechnical housing (the small rectangular object on top of the roof of the Oklahoma Tower), hence you can't see it from the north. Be calm, you will be able to see it within the next month..lol...and I would be more than happy to take a pic to prove my point to you ("smiling" since puting a semi colon, dash and parenthesis always doesn't post)... Be Calm? mkay.... I checked it again this morning - the best view for comparison is from the overpass on 235 over 23rd. I agree that the pillars seem to be nearly touching the top of the Oklahoma Tower, but still has the Penthouse to go. Of course that doesn't count the floors being added in to the level that the pillars are, which will obviously take a few days. OKC@heart 12-15-2010, 11:27 AM Be Calm? mkay.... I checked it again this morning - the best view for comparison is from the overpass on 235 over 23rd. I agree that the pillars seem to be nearly touching the top of the Oklahoma Tower, but still has the Penthouse to go. Of course that doesn't count the floors being added in to the level that the pillars are, which will obviously take a few days. The other thing to remember is that viewing it from the north, Oklahoma Tower will appear taller due to perspective and the distance in the foreground. So Devon would likely have to be a story or two taller than Oklahoma tower for you to clearly see it as taller as viewed from the north. Just some food for thought. All of this of course could be easily settled from a shot taken from the west looking east. hipsterdoofus 12-15-2010, 11:39 AM The other thing to remember is that viewing it from the north, Oklahoma Tower will appear taller due to perspective and the distance in the foreground. So Devon would likely have to be a story or two taller than Oklahoma tower for you to clearly see it as taller as viewed from the north. Just some food for thought. All of this of course could be easily settled from a shot taken from the west looking east. I realize that. When I am making my judgement from 23rd & 235 you are really more NE of downtown, so you can see in from the side, which defeats the illusion. |