View Full Version : Devon Energy Center




UnFrSaKn
09-04-2010, 05:32 PM
Just for reference:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xLJqb3BN2Fo/TFHZVHDQ8BI/AAAAAAAAA_U/ximYKPMbNOA/s1600/devon10.jpg

I'll be doing video once or twice a month, probably when more windows are put up.

redrunner
09-04-2010, 05:42 PM
Are you sure you wanna test everyone? judging from your avatar... you're not working with much of an IQ either.

A little late to the party DJ. You probably missed the context so I would withhold comments if I were you.

bigbear22
09-04-2010, 05:46 PM
It is the 21st century, I would think that with the panels exposed to the weather they are using a rust proof materials like aluminum and stainless steel.

OKC@heart
09-04-2010, 11:47 PM
Just confirms my thoughts that they should have brought in a first rate Construction Company, instead of second rate local Flintco. Remember the support pier in the substructure that had to be jackhammered out, the crane that fell over......

You might want to do some research before you go and slam Flintco. It just so happens that while they are local (Thanks heavens for that) they have an excellent reputation as a first rate quality construction company, as does Holder. What we have seen transpire thus far on the site with the pace that is being kept, and the amount of simultaneous activity that is taking place 24hrs per day is quite astonishing to someone who has seen quite a number of large scale construction sites in my career. The fact that these have been the only incidents that have taken place, with all of the aforementioned is a testament to their attention to detail and level and quality of work. The fact that they are catching their mistakes means that they are following up and looking at everything to mitigate risk and even more extensive set backs. The pier that they jack hammered out way back was a really minor oops and was easily rectified.

Who knows what the issue was with the columns anyway? It could be anything from exposed steel due to spalling, or mix design or a mistake in the size reinforcing steel used on them...its anyones guess until we hear something official (if we ever hear)

Thunder, I will not make fun or belittle you for a question that you ask that is sincere and that you may not be aware regarding, however when you are dismissive and willing to throw the contractor under the bus for a personel conflict issue it is more than just a bit unwise. I am as sorry as anyone that Gene lost his job, and am hopeful that he can stay here and get another great one. If the super that he is mentioned is in fact imbibing on the job he does need to be removed, or at least issued a stern warning with termination as the next step if he ever crosses that line again on the job. But use that as an evidence of the entire company somehow be deficient and sub par is akin to saying that if a sacker at a grocery store ever damaged a product while sacking, and then deciding to sell all of your stock in the company (if you happened to have stock and they were publicly traded) It just makes no sense and is kind of a mob and pitchfork type of reaction, fueled by emotion and very little reason or rationale.

Lets all take a breather and remember why we love coming here...cause this tower is freakin' awesome and is going to be great for Oklahoma City and the state. We are all addicted to its progress and are dissapointed when delays occur since we are all so vested (emotionally) in its day to day progress.

By the way Kinggober you have once again made my day thanks for the fantastic images! I for one hope for an easy fix that is limited for what ever reason to only the two columns that were removed and that we can quickly get back on track. On a project this big a mistake that is caught too late can have devastating consequences. Lets all hope that we can avoid any of those as this beast rises, and that incidents and accidents which will inevitably happen (because it is being constructed by human hands) will be non life threatening and that the safety record may be one more achievement that will be listed when this tower is completed!

Thunder
09-05-2010, 12:14 AM
Lets all take a breather and remember why we love coming here...cause this tower is freakin' awesome and is going to be great for Oklahoma City and the state.

Oh hell no! This is for OKC. No one else. Tulsa will never, ever take credit for this. OKC!

jn1780
09-05-2010, 12:22 AM
Bad concrete? Those two columns were probably came from the same truck.

SkyWestOKC
09-05-2010, 12:24 AM
Oh hell no! This is for OKC. No one else. Tulsa will never, ever take credit for this. OKC!

Isn't Flintco based in Tulsa?

Thunder
09-05-2010, 12:28 AM
Isn't Flintco based in Tulsa?

OMG Tell me you're joking!

HOT ROD
09-05-2010, 12:31 AM
well, OKC woke up from the 1980's and is carrying the state - as it should, being the largest city and capital. And given OKC is doing very well - So I can see how some might say this project will improve not only the city but also the state.

It seems as though when Tulsa had the ball in the 1970-1980's, they wanted it to only be them and they were separate from anything Oklahoma and especially OKC. But now everything is as it should be, and the largest city is carrying the ball and doing very well - and people are rethinking their opinions about OKC (and Oklahoma).

Im glad the competition is 'over' because that really stalled progress and put the state in an even worse and not quite accurate image. Perhaps when Tulsa comes back, she can be a team player this time - then Oklahoma would really become a progressive state. ...

clz46
09-05-2010, 01:11 AM
Flintco's home office is in Tulsa but they have an OKC office as well as several others nation wide. I looked on their website.

Rover
09-05-2010, 09:25 AM
I am at large construction sites all the time. There are corrections and do-overs perpetually. People who aren't in the business apparently don't have a clue as to what happens on a job site.

Don't bash Flintco...they are nationally respected. To turn this discussion to a OKC Tulsa pi$$ing match is childish. People should know what they are talking about before opening their mouth or typing. If the only "truth" known is one which a single poster on here (who may have an ax to grind with the person who fired him) I would say it is very flimsy indeed. Anyone who thinks a drunken construction supervisor would be tolerated by ANYONE on the site is pretty naive as to how things work. If Gene had any beef and made any comment about it to any of the site safety people it would be thoroughly checked out and dealt with.

okcpulse
09-05-2010, 10:22 AM
I am at large construction sites all the time. There are corrections and do-overs perpetually. People who aren't in the business apparently don't have a clue as to what happens on a job site.

Don't bash Flintco...they are nationally respected. To turn this discussion to a OKC Tulsa pi$$ing match is childish. People should know what they are talking about before opening their mouth or typing. If the only "truth" known is one which a single poster on here (who may have an ax to grind with the person who fired him) I would say it is very flimsy indeed. Anyone who thinks a drunken construction supervisor would be tolerated by ANYONE on the site is pretty naive as to how things work. If Gene had any beef and made any comment about it to any of the site safety people it would be thoroughly checked out and dealt with.

Not to mention the fact that a poster on here feels that local construction companies aren't qualified. Man, talk about undermining credibility to Oklahoma. How is a local firm ever going to gain this type of experience if they don't build large-scale construction projects such as Devon.

And, like Rover emphazised, there are corrections and do-overs on large scale sites all the time. A couple of episodes of 'Build It Bigger' should be enough to enlighten people to the challenges faced on these types of projects. At a supertall project in Shanghai, several corrections had to be made to some large fittings so that they can be installed.

If the two columns were jack-hammered away, there may have been a problem with the mixture. The fact that they caught the problem so quickly should tell you that each column is thoroughly inspected before the form is poured. I asked my father about the columns since he poured concrete for years. If there is a problem with the mixture, it will cure in a way that fractures will form. Any number of factors can cause a mixture to go bad. But the again, it also may have not been the mixture.

Either way, the problem is being fixed now instead of down the road where it would have caused major structural damage. I can tell you first hand that people on this job site don't f**k around.

jmarkross
09-05-2010, 10:22 AM
I am at large construction sites all the time. There are corrections and do-overs perpetually. People who aren't in the business apparently don't have a clue as to what happens on a job site.

Don't bash Flintco...they are nationally respected. To turn this discussion to a OKC Tulsa pi$$ing match is childish. People should know what they are talking about before opening their mouth or typing. If the only "truth" known is one which a single poster on here (who may have an ax to grind with the person who fired him) I would say it is very flimsy indeed. Anyone who thinks a drunken construction supervisor would be tolerated by ANYONE on the site is pretty naive as to how things work. If Gene had any beef and made any comment about it to any of the site safety people it would be thoroughly checked out and dealt with.

The Voice of Reason--quite refreshing. Thank you, Rover.

oncendone
09-05-2010, 10:50 AM
Not to mention the fact that a poster on here feels that local construction companies aren't qualified. Man, talk about undermining credibility to Oklahoma. How is a local firm ever going to gain this type of experience if they don't build large-scale construction projects such as Devon.

And, like Rover emphazised, there are corrections and do-overs on large scale sites all the time. A couple of episodes of 'Build It Bigger' should be enough to enlighten people to the challenges faced on these types of projects. At a supertall project in Shanghai, several corrections had to be made to some large fittings so that they can be installed.

If the two columns were jack-hammered away, there may have been a problem with the mixture. The fact that they caught the problem so quickly should tell you that each column is thoroughly inspected before the form is poured. I asked my father about the columns since he poured concrete for years. If there is a problem with the mixture, it will cure in a way that fractures will form. Any number of factors can cause a mixture to go bad. But the again, it also may have not been the mixture.

Either way, the problem is being fixed now instead of down the road where it would have caused major structural damage. I can tell you first hand that people on this job site don't f**k around.
So, Dolese sent an inferior batch to the jobsite? Another example of a local bunch that tries to get by with the least effort?

okcpulse
09-05-2010, 11:32 AM
So, Dolese sent an inferior batch to the jobsite? Another example of a local bunch that tries to get by with the least effort?

No, sometimes a batch can go bad. It happens. It gets inspected and they are fixing the problem. Of the thousands of cubic feet of good concrete has been poured at the site and again you want to run the locals into the ground. Here in Texas the same thing happened in Houston about halfway up the tower. So are you saying that a Houston bunch is trying to get by with the least effort?

Or how about a section of I-45 in The Woodlands where a highway contractor screwed up and built a section of the highway a few inches off in elevation, leaving a large dip in the freeway that had to be shaved down a year later? I can go on and on about the screwups that happen in Texas on a weekly basis.

If you don't know the specifics of the industry, there is no room for comment. And, as I said, we don't know exactly what happened. It could be anything. At least they are fixing the problem by a do-over rather than the band-aid solution that the contractor used on I-45 that caused motorists to bottom out at 60 mph. Let's quit the "every place else is superior to Oklahoma" bit. The song is old and worn out.

dmoor82
09-05-2010, 12:05 PM
So, Dolese sent an inferior batch to the jobsite? Another example of a local bunch that tries to get by with the least effort?

^^I know your not implying that Oklahomans arent hard wokers?because that would be a load of bs!

jn1780
09-05-2010, 12:10 PM
I remember following 1 wtc's construction that there was a batch of bad concrete they poured into the core and it took them several weeks to jackhammer the bad concrete away. So if it was bad concrete, it could have been worse.

Reggie Jet
09-05-2010, 03:16 PM
Boston. Big Dig. 'Nuff Sed.

Rover
09-05-2010, 05:26 PM
People shouldn't make judgmental comments about things of which they are ignorant. Most have absolutely no clue about construction and what goes on to make these projects go.

Rover
09-05-2010, 05:29 PM
So, Dolese sent an inferior batch to the jobsite? Another example of a local bunch that tries to get by with the least effort?

I was on a large job in Beijing awhile back being done by one of the world's largest and most competent contractors and there were chunks of concrete that had fallen off floor 48. People need to get a sense of reality about construction.

ljbab728
09-06-2010, 12:52 AM
Either way, the problem is being fixed now instead of down the road where it would have caused major structural damage. I can tell you first hand that people on this job site don't f**k around.

I appreciate your imput and don't disagree at all with any of your points. Surely, though, you can make your points without an expletive even if it is disguised. As I have pointed out to other posters, minors visit this forum and we shouldn't encourage that.

okcpulse
09-06-2010, 02:09 AM
I appreciate your imput and don't disagree at all with any of your points. Surely, though, you can make your points without an expletive even if it is disguised. As I have pointed out to other posters, minors visit this forum and we shouldn't encourage that.

I agree, and will discontinue the emotion. I sometimes grow tired of people who pretend to know everything to I get short.

ljbab728
09-06-2010, 03:01 AM
I agree, and will discontinue the emotion. I sometimes grow tired of people who pretend to know everything to I get short.

I understand completely and get frustrated myself sometimes. Many posters just can't control themselves, however, when it comes to language and that is a pet peeve of mine on this particular forum. On other forums which are more adult in nature I understand that.

okcpulse
09-06-2010, 10:41 AM
I know I get angry when my father-in-law gets vulgar around my little ones. So I need to have the same respect for other parents' children.

As for the Devon Tower, I wonder if they are going to redo those two columns tomorrow. Man, I am so anxious to get back up to OKC October 1st.

OKCDrummer77
09-06-2010, 10:54 AM
From Saturday:

http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/OKCDrummer77/94Devon1.jpg
-
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/OKCDrummer77/94Devon2.jpg
-
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/OKCDrummer77/94Devon3.jpg
-
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/OKCDrummer77/94Devon4.jpg
-
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/OKCDrummer77/94Devon5.jpg
-
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/OKCDrummer77/94Devon6.jpg
-
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/OKCDrummer77/94Devon7.jpg
-
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/OKCDrummer77/94Devon8.jpg
-
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/OKCDrummer77/94Devon9.jpg
-
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/OKCDrummer77/94Devon10.jpg
-
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/OKCDrummer77/94Devon11.jpg
-
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/OKCDrummer77/94Devon12.jpg
-
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/OKCDrummer77/94Devon13.jpg
-
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/OKCDrummer77/94Devon14.jpg
-
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/OKCDrummer77/94Devon15.jpg
-
http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/OKCDrummer77/94Devon16.jpg

gen70
09-06-2010, 11:23 AM
Nice^...

Dustin
09-06-2010, 03:26 PM
AHHHH!! I cant wait for this thing to be completely glassed!

soonerwilliam
09-06-2010, 03:27 PM
Great pics! Thanks

SkyWestOKC
09-06-2010, 03:54 PM
It's probably just me, but I'm thinking on severe clear days, this tower is going to be hard to see from a distance.... Great pics by the way.

Jettmiester
09-07-2010, 02:27 AM
Thanks to those who take the tiime to post construction pics. Much appreciated!

metro
09-07-2010, 12:59 PM
It already has broken the skyline if your driving southbound or northbound on Classen from about NW 6th to Reno.

PLM
09-07-2010, 03:41 PM
I was told by a Holder employee today that the building/skin/glass will contain more than 1 million LED lights when complete. He didnt exactly detail if they were built into the frames or if they were to be added later. I would describe his position more as a supervisor so maybe he would know..?

Dustin
09-07-2010, 07:47 PM
I was told by a Holder employee today that the building/skin/glass will contain more than 1 million LED lights when complete. He didnt exactly detail if they were built into the frames or if they were to be added later. I would describe his position more as a supervisor so maybe he would know..?

STOP! I can't take the excitement anymore!!!! GAAAAHHHHHHHH!

Watson410
09-08-2010, 07:54 AM
Are those to columns fixed now? It looks like it from the cam but it's hard to tell...

soonerwilliam
09-08-2010, 09:47 AM
yes

OKC@heart
09-08-2010, 09:57 AM
Yeah, they got em repoured and we should be on our way vertical again! The South core has lifted to the next floor. The concrete pumper boom looks like it is very close to the height of the tower crane #2 elevation so would expect to see that tower make its jump in the next couple of days. I wonder with tower crane #2 jumping the #1 position if it will make the tower crane the highest object in the OKC skyline yet? It should be close if not, either way it is exciting to see the forshadowing of the height and position of the tower represented by the tower cranes as this thing grows on the skyline. Another core level rise and we will have broken the horizon line as viewed from the web cam!!!!

OKCisOK4me
09-08-2010, 04:44 PM
It's been way too quiet (crickets chirping) on here so I'll throw out a perplexing question...

We know the rate on the floors (per no bad columns or other major mistakes which I'm fully aware are going to take place) is 8 days. What's the rate on glass panel installations per floor?

dedndcrusr
09-08-2010, 08:36 PM
What's the rate on glass panel installations per floor?

Equal to, or greater than, 8 days per floor.:doh:

jn1780
09-09-2010, 12:07 AM
Equal to, or greater than, 8 days per floor.:doh:

Whenever they remove the shoring is when the glass for a particular floor gets installed.

OKC@heart
09-09-2010, 12:48 AM
They typically will shadow the pace of the floor construction rate. They are a distinct trade and so you don't typically want the glazing subcontractor to mobilize and start work that they have to stop while waiting for more structure to be built. That would incur additional charges and could threaten availability of the skilled crew who could be reassigned to other projects. They cannot afford to sit idle which is why they waited until they had completed the 8th floor and had begun the faster pace on the floor plates. Hanging the glazing is much like doing new forms in that it takes them a little longer to run through the traps on the first floors while they work out any issues with the application of the product on the built form, and then it begins to become more systematic and quicker.

They will perform tests on the glazing at various intervals, typically randomly selected by the owners rep and the architect to verify the performance of the assembly in place with regards to windblown rain, but that will come much later as they have much more glazing in place.

OKCisOK4me
09-09-2010, 03:09 AM
Thank you OKC@heart for your intellectual/informative answer to an honest question that was not asked for the sole purpose of receiving a crap answer with a slap in the head cartoon smiley. Glad you're here to provide some serious answers!

dedndcrusr
09-09-2010, 08:26 AM
I was just messin' with you OKC@heart. I was kinda curious about it too. I'm looking forward to seeing some more glazing from the tower cam.

maestro6
09-09-2010, 01:53 PM
It appears the horizon has been breached from the webcam perspective. Exciting!

OKC@heart
09-09-2010, 02:21 PM
Yes it has with the reinforcing steel...I was kinda holding off until the floor plate broke the horizon line, but even with that as the milestone we are only two weeks away from that happening! The other interesting thing is due to our perspective and the curvature of the earth the floors that intersect the horizon should also be about eye level to our view so from that point we will begin looking up at the tower being built instead of down on that construction. Unless of course we are able to secure a vantage point for a second cam from over in the Chase tower or the petroleum club.

hipsterdoofus
09-09-2010, 02:41 PM
It appears the horizon has been breached from the webcam perspective. Exciting!

Meh...its no where near being covered up...wait a week or 2

OKCisOK4me
09-09-2010, 02:43 PM
It appears the horizon has been breached from the webcam perspective. Exciting!

Almost.... Not quite yet. If you put a ruler on the screen there's still about 2mm to go. Give it ten more days for the cores and two more weeks minimum for the floor plates.

OKCisOK4me
09-09-2010, 07:36 PM
Great information here. Had a guy come into my work who works for the company doing the glass installation. Here is their website:

www.permasteelisa.com

This guy handles the safety aspect associated with the installation of the glass panels. He says that the company manufactures, distributes and installs all of their panels. He said once the floor plates start picking up and he said, and I quote, "on a 5 day schedule", they'll be right behind at the same rate! He also told me about the fiber optics that run through every single pane divider (I forgot the term he gave me for them) and that any color in the spectrum will be possible. He also stated that the tower will be at occupancy up to the 25-30 floor range while they finish topping out the glass on the building. Seemed kinda strange to me but he stated that this is how companies do it these days and I'd think he'd know because he's been head man for many projects around the world for this company for several years. It will be interesting to see none the less!

PS... I've gone to the website and I can't really find anything associated with the Devon Tower but that doesn't mean anything. It could be under wraps until a certain point they reach in the project. I told him that I was on this website and that if he didn't mind I would speak of it and he said he didn't think that to be a problem. It looks to me that they've had some pretty big customers and this guy isn't the kind of guy that would make up something...

Platemaker
09-09-2010, 07:38 PM
The term is 'fins.'

OKCisOK4me
09-09-2010, 07:59 PM
Ahhhhh.... I had to think for a minute to associate your post with mine, lol... Thanks!

Thunder
09-09-2010, 08:42 PM
How soon will these fiber optic lights begin to work?

When it is all done, it will be very kool to see all sort of lights for each holidays, sport games, and thrill nights!

possumfritter
09-10-2010, 08:50 AM
Very Cool! Now everyone that will be working in the Devon Tower knows what they have to look forward to every Spring and Summer.

Sorry about that. This did not post in the right place. Can't seem to find the Delete tab.

OKCisOK4me
09-10-2010, 10:04 AM
Very Cool! Now everyone that will be working in the Devon Tower knows what they have to look forward to every Spring and Summer.

Sorry about that. This did not post in the right place. Can't seem to find the Delete tab.

What are you talking about and where did you intend for it to go?

OKCisOK4me
09-10-2010, 10:05 AM
How soon will these fiber optic lights begin to work?

When it is all done, it will be very kool to see all sort of lights for each holidays, sport games, and thrill nights!

They most likely won't begin working until the tower and surrounding complex is complete. As for holidays, sports games, and thrill nights, I wholeheartedly believe Devon will be a little more conservative...

HOT ROD
09-10-2010, 07:29 PM
you never know, OKC@.

With a 'signature', 'statement', 'iconic' skyscraper such as this - I think the sky is and could very well be "The Limit". But I do agree, that Devon would probably err on the side of conservativeness; but they might be more liberal in their schemes than otherwise might be the case.

Thunder
09-10-2010, 09:41 PM
I am sure they will have fun with the lights. They know how important the tower is to OKC and they know how important it is to the people and they know what we all want. They will obviously meed the demands, such as all-out lighting for occasions. Most nights they should have it a sort of blue and it wouldn't hurt to change colors to awe the crowd. Out of towners driving by will be impressed.

redrunner
09-10-2010, 09:50 PM
Yeah, nothing says respectable, distinguished, and refined tower like a Lite-Brite® light show.

HOT ROD
09-10-2010, 11:43 PM
honestly, nobody is suggesting that, redrunner. instead, we are saying Devon will be a bit less conservative than they otherwise would since the tower is showered with these LED lights. It will be classy but complete, that is what I expect - which is a bit more liberal than the "typical" Devon that we all know.

Thundercitizen
09-11-2010, 10:13 AM
Ladies and gentlemen, the horizon has been breached.

warreng88
09-11-2010, 12:32 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, the horizon has been breached.

So could this be considered the "Event Horizon?"

Dustin
09-11-2010, 03:48 PM
ladies and gentlemen, the horizon has been breached.

saaawwweeeettt!