Anyone take any pics from the west lately? Kind of curious how the west side of the garage is looking.

nice shots! when were the 2 newest cranes assembled? i was in okc this past weekend, and even went to the site, and at that time, there were only the 2 original tower cranes there. and, what are the 2 newer ones going to be used for? the podium?

nice shots! when were the 2 newest cranes assembled? i was in okc this past weekend, and even went to the site, and at that time, there were only the 2 original tower cranes there. and, what are the 2 newer ones going to be used for? the podium?

Last weekend. They will be used for the podium.

Last weekend. They will be used for the podium.

In Casey's last picture is that a tunnel near the western most crane? If it is where does lead to?

In Kinggober's last picture is that a tunnel near the western most crane? If it is where does lead to?

Yes, it is a tunnel. We (some coworkers and I) believe it will lead to the stage that they are constructing so they will be able to move things back and forth from the building to the stage out of sight...

Yes, it is a tunnel. We (some coworkers and I) believe it will lead to the stage that they are constructing so they will be able to move things back and forth from the building to the stage out of sight...

Thanks

In Casey's last picture is that a tunnel near the western most crane? If it is where does lead to?

Tulsa.

Pictures from lunch today from the Devon garage :) Awesome place to see the entire south side of the project.

I was thinking the same thing on the tunnel after we noticed it today.

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If there were three sets of outside forms it would have been a problem because the forms would have been trapped under the deck forms at some point. Because there is only one set of outside forms they will be moved from one core to another and spiral up the building. The outside form will be used at all times.This method keeps the forms from being trapped without the need to lower the forms to the ground which on a high building is time consuming. These methods and ideas are the secrets to high rise construction building.
The first core was poured last night.

Looks like they started moving the outside forms to another core today. They should be done by the end of the day at the rate their going.

Then somebody better tell the guys at the concrete company because they said the foundation would be made with one continuous 'pour', not one continuous 'place'. They even had a 'pouring' party not a 'placing' party. However, I did read where they 'place' rebar.

NewsOK (http://newsok.com/devon-builds-a-foundation-for-a-future-in-downtown-oklahoma-city/article/3447600)

(You are quote the Oklahoman as a credible source of information? Nice.)

PCA - The Portland Cement Association (http://www.cement.org/index.asp)
http://www.cement.org/basics/concretebasics_placing.asp

(You are quote the Oklahoman as a credible source of information? Nice.)

PCA - The Portland Cement Association (http://www.cement.org/index.asp)
Cement & Concrete Basics: Placing & Finishing Concrete | Portland Cement Association (PCA) (http://www.cement.org/basics/concretebasics_placing.asp)

So what do you call a concrete pump? A concrete placer?

Oh for crying out loud - like everyone on OKC Talk board would get the info I did and go "hey, I know you're with the contractor, but the term to use is place and not pour." I will be the first to admit that I'm not immune to making mistakes - especially in this day and age of instant news, multimedia and fewer bodies in the newsroom. But good lord, do some of you ever listen to yourselves?
Ok Cliff, it's a continuous placing of the foundation.....

Nobody is yanking your chain...pouring v. placing is a joke among engineers.

Chill.

Nobody is yanking your chain...pouring v. placing is a joke among engineers.

Chill.

Lets just stick to "concrete" vs. "cement". LOL

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I'll post more later

Nobody is yanking your chain...pouring v. placing is a joke among engineers.

Chill.

It's true.

It's true.

In the field "nobody" says place concrete.

Nobody is yanking your chain...pouring v. placing is a joke among engineers.

Chill.
Sorry, bad day. I should really stay off this site on bad days.

Nobody in the field says "place" concrete. (sorry for double post)

In the field "nobody" says place concrete.

Oh yeah, I'm with you. I've never heard anybody ever say place concrete. It just gets joked about.

Anyone know why they are jackhammering out one of the piers on the north side of the main foundation?

There are a few more pictures here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/53062852@N00/) if you're interested
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4037/4523375566_f1c69ba2df_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2790/4523375960_928af0c8ee_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4072/4522742759_9f6c1d6008_b.jpg

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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4522742075_265bdb4d00_b.jpg

The Dolese truck blew his front tire backing over a rebar cluster
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Would love to jump in on this one, but have to run to a job site for a concrete pour........:poke:

Awesome pics. King.

If anyone is interested and has a scanner, here are the radio frequencies for the contruction site!

Construction Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference (http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?aid=2529)

Enjoy!

The pictures are indeed quite spectacular, King. Thanks also for the FLICKR link--more good ones there as well. Your photographic skills are excellent. :bow:

What are these boxes?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4522742075_265bdb4d00_b.jpg

What are these boxes?



Access to the tiebacks?

blockouts. places they don't want the concrete to go.

and "placing" concrete is typically used by engineers/architects/estimators. anyone on a jobsite says "pouring" concrete, but it's not unheard of to say that you're "placing" it.

a little more clarification: it looks like the wall will be as thick as the boxes. they'll set another form and pour the wall. the box will create a hole in the wall so that they can run things through them (power/data/plumbing/whatever....)

just my educated guess.

blockouts. places they don't want the concrete to go.

and "placing" concrete is typically used by engineers/architects/estimators. anyone on a jobsite says "pouring" concrete, but it's not unheard of to say that you're "placing" it. Well.. typically us guys in the field say pour. It's kinda like this.. when the engineers/architects/estimators Screw up it's called an "oversite" but when the "field screws up" it's called a "screw up" (being polite in language)
I have been in every aspect of the construction industry for 40 years. (Wow, I have had a lot of "oversites" in my life.)

king, what camera do you use?

Would love to jump in on this one, but have to run to a job site for a concrete pour........:poke:

Is it spelled Ass or ASS!!

king, what camera do you use?

It's a Canon S3 IS 6MP with 12x optical zoom

Well.. typically us guys in the field say pour. It's kinda like this.. when the engineers/architects/estimators Screw up it's called an "oversite" but when the "field screws up" it's called a "screw up" (being polite in language)
I have been in every aspect of the construction industry for 40 years. (Wow, I have had a lot of "oversites" in my life.)

Not to be the spelling Po-po...but it's "oversight"

kinggober...just wondering if there is a way you can tag each photo (on the camera itself) with the date and time the photo is taken? Thanks.

I don't know why I find this so annoying but they've been trying to place glass on the top of the elevator tower on the SE corner of the parking garage for a month.

Still not finished!

It's taking longer to complete this task than it took to erect the entire five-floor addition.

I don't know why I find this so annoying but they've been trying to place glass on the top of the elevator tower on the SE corner of the parking garage for a month.

Still not finished!

It's taking longer to complete this task than it took to erect the entire five-floor addition.

Yeah Pete they apparently messed up on a couple on the NE corner too as they boarded up one window.

I hope they iron out the kinks before they get to the tower, otherwise they won't be able to finish the glazing in our lifetimes.

So, lets see, drop a beam during garage construction, pour concrete base foundation during sub freezing weather, tip over a crane, place a pier in the wrong location and have to jackhammer it out, missed the measurements on glass for the parking garage.....

kinggober...just wondering if there is a way you can tag each photo (on the camera itself) with the date and time the photo is taken? Thanks.

Yeah when the picture is taken it stores the date and time automatically. This information can also be accessed once the file is on the computer

So, lets see, drop a beam during garage construction, pour concrete base foundation during sub freezing weather, tip over a crane, place a pier in the wrong location and have to jackhammer it out, missed the measurements on glass for the parking garage.....

why are you penalizing them for "pouring/placing" the concrete? first off, the weather wasn't sub-zero, just cold, and as others pointed out, it doesn't matter much to concrete because of it's own heat. as others pointed out, large projects like this have mistakes and used to be measured by fatalities.

The weather was perfect for the concrete. Maybe not for the workers who poured/placed the concrete.

Anyone who has ever had a house built will understand what a complicated process building any structure is. None of the so-called snafus seem out of the ordinary to me...and that does not mean anyone is "not" professional enough, I am sure. Watch "Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House" (1948) with Cary Grant and Myrna Loy to see this acted out.

Having been in the Sears, the Hancock, and several other iconic towers, I was just wondering if there had been any talk about putting an observation deck/floor with public access on top of the Devon tower. (For security reasons, they could dedicate a single elevator to serve only that platform.) Can you imagine how cool the views would be?

RockChalk, it has already been announced that there will not be a public viewing deck and will not be welcome in the tower without security clearance.

The rotunda, however, will be open to all.

That sucks.

Pete, when was that announcement made? Last I asked (Feb), this was undecided.

What are Devon officials saying is the overall progress thus far?

on schedule, ahead of schedule, a month behind?

why are you penalizing them for "pouring/placing" the concrete? first off, the weather wasn't sub-zero, just cold, and as others pointed out, it doesn't matter much to concrete because of it's own heat. as others pointed out, large projects like this have mistakes and used to be measured by fatalities.

First off, I did not say sub-zero, I said sub-freezing. Second, I would think that placing two of the main piers in the wrong place to be more important than just a little snafu.

First off, I did not say sub-zero, I said sub-freezing. Second, I would think that placing two of the main piers in the wrong place to be more important than just a little snafu.

I haven't heard anything about the pier. I doubt they would be jack-hammering it out because it was placed in the wrong location. More likely the rebar was tied wrong or the concrete was bad.

At least they discovered it early. Vegas has a new hotel at the new City Center Resort that is only half its planed height because all the rebar in the columns were tied wrong.

The concrete was chipped down to get the top of pile at the designed elevation.No problem with rebar or concrete.This is a common occurence.

The Devon cam is stuck.

I know! I hate it.

The concrete was chipped down to get the top of pile at the designed elevation.No problem with rebar or concrete.This is a common occurence.

Thank you

It was oncendone who said something about the column being placed in the wrong location which is even more unlikely than a rebar or concrete problem.

So wait, the put a support pier int he wrong spot? That is a fairly substantial blunder...or am I misreading this?

So wait, the put a support pier int he wrong spot? That is a fairly substantial blunder...or am I misreading this?

no

I think oncendone just thought they did.

I think this is the pier that is in question

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Pete, when was that announcement made? Last I asked (Feb), this was undecided.

I may be mistaken but I could have sworn Larry Nichols made a definitive statement about this around the time the project was announced.

I'll do some research and see if I can confirm it.

I may be mistaken but I could have sworn Larry Nichols made a definitive statement about this around the time the project was announced.

I'll do some research and see if I can confirm it.

I don't blame them for not having an observation deck. That would mean increased security and would be an inconvience to employees.