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Pete
05-30-2019, 04:34 PM
^

That's good news. That park is very heavily used, especially in the summer.

Roger S
05-30-2019, 04:39 PM
I noticed the fencing was gone from around the park, at least on the south and west sides, when I came to work this morning.

G22
05-30-2019, 08:47 PM
Falling debris from up high hit the building at lower levels as it fell. The damage is distributed all the way down. Somebody was speculating that debris got in that "trough" and just bounced back and forth as it fell.

Didn't the lift "malfunction" at the bottom and impact multiple windows on the way up? Once they got to the top without stabilization, they created more substantial damage. Just my take...

DoctorTaco
05-31-2019, 08:47 AM
Didn't the lift "malfunction" at the bottom and impact multiple windows on the way up? Once they got to the top without stabilization, they created more substantial damage. Just my take...

I hadn't heard that but seems plausible.

Roger S
05-31-2019, 08:53 AM
Barricades on Sheridan were gone this morning.

PaddyShack
05-31-2019, 09:02 AM
We went to Vast last night and there were plenty of people enjoying the northern lawn of MBG. The south entrnace to the Devon atrium was still closed and you couldn't walk along the north sidewalk of Sheridan.

We ended up walking through the Colcord to get into the Devon tower and I noticed there was a whole pan of glass removed in that little hallway between the hotel and the tower.

Pete
06-27-2019, 02:08 PM
The public sidewalk along Sheridan in front of Devon Tower is still barricaded.

SEMIweather
08-04-2019, 04:30 PM
They sure are taking long enough to replace all of the windows that were broken.

TheTravellers
08-04-2019, 04:44 PM
They sure are taking long enough to replace all of the windows that were broken.

Since they used "Budget Glass Cleaning" (https://www.thelostogle.com/2019/07/15/report-devon-hired-budget-glass-cleaning-to-unsuccessfully-clean-tower-windows/) for their window-washing, they're probably using "Joe's Window Fixing Shop" to replace them. :Smiley122

Pete
08-04-2019, 04:58 PM
I'm sure they had to have them custom made.

Laramie
08-04-2019, 05:01 PM
Do you install these replacement windows :biggrin: from the inside or the outside ;) using a reputable company with a lift?

Dob Hooligan
08-04-2019, 05:52 PM
I think I have read recently that Devon Energy does not own the Devon Tower. If I am correct, then how heavily is Devon involved in the management of the building? This is an innocent question.

jn1780
08-04-2019, 09:15 PM
I think I have read recently that Devon Energy does not own the Devon Tower. If I am correct, then how heavily is Devon involved in the management of the building? This is an innocent question.

Devon Energy does own Devon Tower. Its the Bank of Oklahoma building across the street they don't own.

BoulderSooner
08-05-2019, 08:05 AM
Devon Energy does own Devon Tower. Its the Bank of Oklahoma building across the street they don't own.

i think they own both

ditm4567
08-05-2019, 08:39 AM
i think they own both

Hines Interests, L.P. out of Houston owns BOK Tower.

thunderbird
08-05-2019, 08:20 PM
Hines Interests, L.P. out of Houston owns BOK Tower.

Haines is the Maintenance company that operates both BOK and the main tower.

dankrutka
09-27-2019, 04:42 PM
So... they’re just not replacing all the broken windows? It looks awful.

citywokchinesefood
09-27-2019, 04:46 PM
So... they’re just not replacing all the broken windows? It looks awful.

The windows are all custom made by the manufacturer. It takes a significant amount of time to get replacements made and installed.

dankrutka
09-27-2019, 05:22 PM
The windows are all custom made by the manufacturer. It takes a significant amount of time to get replacements made and installed.

I didn't realize the window washer incident was only a little over 4 months ago. I thought it has been a lot longer.

Pete
09-27-2019, 07:27 PM
So... they’re just not replacing all the broken windows? It looks awful.

The public sidewalk has been closed for months.

Pete
10-04-2019, 10:58 AM
It was just announced that Devon's Saturdays with Santa -- part of the Downtown in December series of events -- is moving to the Myriad Gardens this year.

I suspect it's due to the on-going issues with Devon Energy Center and the fact the outside and sidewalk are still fenced off.

TheTravellers
10-04-2019, 11:08 AM
Been following the oil prices thread and it got me wondering - what's the occupancy rate (percentage and number of personnel) of the Devon tower now, with all the layoffs they've had over the past year or so, anybody know off the top of your head?

Pete
10-04-2019, 11:10 AM
Been following the oil prices thread and it got me wondering - what's the occupancy rate (percentage and number of personnel) of the Devon tower now, with all the layoffs they've had over the past year or so, anybody know off the top of your head?

I know at least 10 floors are completely vacant and that most the others are not near capacity.

PhiAlpha
10-04-2019, 11:40 AM
Been following the oil prices thread and it got me wondering - what's the occupancy rate (percentage and number of personnel) of the Devon tower now, with all the layoffs
they've had over the past year or so, anybody know off the top of your head?

I've heard that nearly 1/3 of the tower is empty and several floors (Probably the 10 empty ones Pete mentioned) are locked down.

Jersey Boss
10-16-2019, 12:13 PM
It was just announced that Devon's Saturdays with Santa -- part of the Downtown in December series of events -- is moving to the Myriad Gardens this year.

I suspect it's due to the on-going issues with Devon Energy Center and the fact the outside and sidewalk are still fenced off.

Based on your experience is it plausible that this a a reasonable amount of time to replace these windows?

Pete
10-16-2019, 02:13 PM
No idea. I know they had to be custom ordered and I’m sure that is the hold-up.

jn1780
10-16-2019, 04:23 PM
Its probably difficult for companies that manufacture cladding to squeeze in small projects like this when their in the process of mass producing cladding for bigger jobs.

Pete
12-16-2019, 07:27 AM
In case you haven't noticed, Devon has done almost no Christmas decorations this year.

That is no doubt partly due to the on-going damaged windows and the related fenced-off area in front of the building.

But the lawn is not fenced off and there is no giant half-ornament. No giant ornaments at the Colcord either (which Devon owns) and no light-wrapped trees anywhere on the Devon property and those at the Colcord no longer have every branch wrapped. In fact, even those huge glass ribbons and pinecones typically hung in the rotunda/atrium have not been installed. (Last 2 photos are from 2017; first two are from this weekend.)

No doubt this is at least partly a cost-cutting move.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/colcord121519a.jpg

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/devon121419a.jpg

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/colcord121417c.jpg

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/devon121417a.png

bombermwc
12-16-2019, 07:47 AM
I dont expect oil prices to magically jump to 150 a barrel or anything (Lord i hope not) so how long do you think they wait before they lease out the space? Seems like we've seen this before in Oklahoma....oh yeah, the Williams Center in Tulsa.

Pete
12-16-2019, 07:50 AM
They have a lot of empty floors but the whole building is setup for a single tenant. No easy way to change the entire security on the ground floor and a ton of other things.

I suspect they'll just live with the vacancy for at least a while longer, but I bet that building is at least 1/3 empty now.

Bullbear
12-16-2019, 07:54 AM
I really miss the ornaments at the colcord.. those were really classy and top notch. the others i enjoyed as well but always thought colcord was stunning at christmas. I did notice one of the giant pinecones in the lobby of the BOK building. I had only seen them before at elevator landings in Devon.

Pete
12-16-2019, 07:59 AM
I agree about the ornaments at the Colcord; super classy looking and on that very highly visible corner. Hope they soon make a comeback.

They did put one ornament up and wrap the trees at BOK:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/bok121419a.jpg

5alive
12-16-2019, 07:59 AM
Just speculation, but in the grand scheme of things, I imagine the man-hours needed to install the lights and decorations would only run in the thousands...seems to be a drop considering I'm used to hearing the name Devon and billions in the same breath.

Pete
12-16-2019, 08:03 AM
Easily tens of thousands.

A friend this year paid a company to wrap the trunks of two trees and line the roofline of his house with lights. That was a grand right there and it wasn't 1/1,000th of what Devon does, which involves multiple cranes and interior lifts over the course of a couple of weeks.

I also noticed that SandRidge does almost nothing to their huge plaza and of course Chesapeake does a tiny fraction of their heyday.

Continental is the only local big oil company that is doing well but they've never done any decorations for the holidays.

gopokes88
12-16-2019, 11:03 AM
Just speculation, but in the grand scheme of things, I imagine the man-hours needed to install the lights and decorations would only run in the thousands...seems to be a drop considering I'm used to hearing the name Devon and billions in the same breath.

Devon is still a company in the billions but its small b now not big B. They have sold off a lot of assets in the past 24 months. On the plus side they have one of the strongest balance sheets in the E&P space.

hipsterdoofus
12-17-2019, 01:45 PM
Came here to catch up on this. I used to walk through Devon at lunch from North to South and then go to the sidewalk. Crazy that over six months later, they still have their South entrance and the sidewalk still blocked off.

Anonymous.
12-17-2019, 01:56 PM
Including the sidewalk in the fence-off is so unnecessary, too. I understand special ordering unexpected glass is a process, but there really wasn't someone who could get this job done in over half a year?

And if it was expected to take this long, why leave the fence up the entire time? The plywood in the windows pose no threat below. My only guess is the fence was left up because they thought the glass would be finished more quickly, but now are just in "screw it, it has been up this long without a fight".

Pete
12-17-2019, 02:27 PM
That window washer incident happened May 15th so it has now been 7 months and counting.

My understanding is they have started the work to replace the broken windows but I have no idea how long it's going to take to complete.

Bullbear
12-17-2019, 04:00 PM
I did notice a few days last week they were working on windows and the window washing/ service lift was in use. hopefully soon

gopokes88
12-17-2019, 08:32 PM
I was told the glass took 6 months to manufacture. It was custom for the building-LEED related. When those panes broke, the manufacturer had to retool, and basically remember how to make them.

TheTravellers
12-18-2019, 10:38 AM
I was told the glass took 6 months to manufacture. It was custom for the building-LEED related. When those panes broke, the manufacturer had to retool, and basically remember how to make them.

Wow, seems like poor planning on Devon's part, guessing they never thought any would break and to have duplicates on hand. And yes, I know that can get expensive, especially if the sizes/shapes are all different, but still...

bombermwc
12-19-2019, 09:17 AM
Skyscrapers aren't exactly prefab structures where things all fit in the next structure the same.

Problems really come later when it's 40 years from now and if that manufacturer goes out of business and you need something made and have to find someone new.

Pete
12-19-2019, 09:21 AM
The building actually curves inward.

I'm sure each and every window they are replacing are of slightly different sizes.

David
12-19-2019, 09:35 AM
That sounds like a giant pain to maintain.

Jersey Boss
12-19-2019, 09:46 AM
that sounds like a giant pane to maintain.

fify

hoya
12-19-2019, 12:14 PM
fify

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/691/703/902.gif

Pete
02-19-2020, 01:15 PM
Just took this one... They are replacing some of the broken windows:

https://i.imgur.com/IOOR2XX.jpg

Pete
02-28-2020, 08:02 AM
Not much progress as of yesterday:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/devon022820a.jpg

G.Walker
02-28-2020, 11:49 AM
Yea, I saw on the news that can't work on it if the winds are high. And we have had some high wind days as of late. That being said, being in Oklahoma, it might never get done, lol.

G.Walker
02-28-2020, 11:50 AM
You would think they could replace them from the inside, but guess not.

HOT ROD
03-01-2020, 08:17 PM
hold in place outside, while they're latched inside.

HOT ROD
03-01-2020, 08:19 PM
and yes, they learned a cricitcal, invaluable lesson with the incident that created all of this. Don't bring that crane, sling, and/or workstand out when the winds are greater than 15 mph. This would be MOST days in Oklahoma, likely THE reason why all windows haven't yet been fixed. Ditto that same argument for the LEDs not being fixed.

TheTravellers
03-01-2020, 08:29 PM
and yes, they learned a cricitcal, invaluable lesson with the incident that created all of this. Don't bring that crane, sling, and/or workstand out when the winds are greater than 15 mph. This would be MOST days in Oklahoma, likely THE reason why all windows haven't yet been fixed. Ditto that same argument for the LEDs not being fixed.

Seems like it'd be really weird if the LED lighting had to be fixed or maintained from the outside, I would consider that a big engineering fail.

Teo9969
03-01-2020, 11:31 PM
IIRC, The LED issues have to do with wiring between the floors.

HOT ROD
03-06-2020, 02:31 AM
The LEDs themselves are outside, so to fix them wouldn't one need to go outside?

Even if you're replacing a LED panel, you need to do it from outside. Not an engineering fail at all but instead might be common sense. Who knows?

TheTravellers
03-06-2020, 08:48 AM
The LEDs themselves are outside, so to fix them wouldn't one need to go outside?

Even if you're replacing a LED panel, you need to do it from outside. Not an engineering fail at all but instead might be common sense. Who knows?

Are they outside, do we definitely know that? Honest question, I don't know, figured they'd be inside since they go the entire height. If so, that, to me, is an engineering fail for that building specifically (other lighting uses, like for crown, spire spots, etc., would obviously have to be outside).

Pete
03-06-2020, 08:53 AM
I spoke to the LED contractor throughout the install process.

He said the lights and wiring were embedded in the panels and that some were damaged during installation.

At that point, the LED company claimed they could not obtain access to the building maintenance unit (BMU) and then there was a complete falling out with Devon. So much so, they did not finish the final programming of the system.

So, from the outset, there were some window panels that never functioned properly/at all and it never has been resolved.

BoulderSooner
03-06-2020, 09:08 AM
I spoke to the LED contractor throughout the install process.

He said the lights and wiring were embedded in the panels and that some were damaged during installation.

At that point, the LED company claimed they could not obtain access to the building maintenance unit (BMU) and then there was a complete falling out with Devon. So much so, they did not finish the final programming of the system.

So, from the outset, there were some window panels that never functioned properly/at all and it never has been resolved.

IIRC that LED company also went out of business

Pete
03-06-2020, 09:11 AM
IIRC that LED company also went out of business

They are still around and doing lots of installs:

https://bocaflasher.com/

TheTravellers
03-06-2020, 09:14 AM
I spoke to the LED contractor throughout the install process.

He said the lights and wiring were embedded in the panels and that some were damaged during installation.

At that point, the LED company claimed they could not obtain access to the building maintenance unit (BMU) and then there was a complete falling out with Devon. So much so, they did not finish the final programming of the system.

So, from the outset, there were some window panels that never functioned properly/at all and it never has been resolved.

Right, I remember all that, so I'm assuming that the "panels" are located inside the building?