okc_bel_air
01-25-2012, 01:34 PM
I may have missed it it but since the outside elevators are gone I assume that the internal elevators are fully functional now? Do they have them all working or just a couple for construction purposes?
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okc_bel_air 01-25-2012, 01:34 PM I may have missed it it but since the outside elevators are gone I assume that the internal elevators are fully functional now? Do they have them all working or just a couple for construction purposes? Pete 01-25-2012, 01:39 PM I may have missed it it but since the outside elevators are gone I assume that the internal elevators are fully functional now? Do they have them all working or just a couple for construction purposes? I'm sure they are all working now, as there is no other way to get to the various floors. Just the facts 01-25-2012, 03:35 PM This is probably the most irrelevant question I will ever ask but what picture of OKC do you use? I actually use 8 different pictures right now. Windows 7 will let you link to a folder containing pictures and it will cycle through them (one every 20 minutes or so). They are all aerials of downtown OKC mostly lifted from OKCTalk. I have 4 taken during the day, 3 at night, and 1 at sunset. UnFrSaKn 01-25-2012, 05:06 PM Flashback http://vimeo.com/18771012 Cooper_GOIVM 01-25-2012, 05:23 PM We need a straight down hi-res view on the tower so we can see the roof. hint hint Challenge accepted. I'm actually going up in a couple weeks for a client shoot. Urbanized 01-25-2012, 06:26 PM Challenge accepted. I'm actually going up in a couple weeks for a client shoot. Any chance you had a daytime shot similar to the nighttime one that we were all oohing and ahhing over? Looks like the night shot was taken at about the roof height of the building, so around 850'. I've been dying to photoshop a properly-scaled Devon Tower into the shot below, taken from the Top of Rock observation deck at 30 Rockefeller Center. By coincidence, 30 Rock is 850,' so the vantage point would be fairly similar. I started to use the Devon Tower from your night shot, but it would just look too weird stuck in this daytime view. The distance between 49th St and 34th is 7/10 of a mile, and it looks like you were about the same from Devon. That angle would be close to perfect. By my quick calculations (who knows, I might be wrong), Devon would reach the first setback from the main building profile, towering over almost everything in Midtown except the ESB itself (Chrysler, BofA, Citigroup would show up in wider shots). The cabs of the Devon Tower cranes would be close to the roofline of the ESB. That just trips me the heck out. Photo: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c7/Empire_State_Building_from_the_Top_of_the_Rock.jpg/450px-Empire_State_Building_from_the_Top_of_the_Rock.jpg Urbanized 01-25-2012, 06:42 PM At 844 feet Devon would be 257 meters, so the difference would be about one ESB floor; considerably less than one Devon floor. Close enough that I'm willing to call it the same height MOL. That's crazy, if you look at that picture. Urbanized 01-25-2012, 06:45 PM By the way, my post with the ESB photo in it is the nerdiest post I've ever made here, and that's saying something. Urbanized 01-25-2012, 07:00 PM Here's another photo from the Top of the Rock Observatory (850', same basic height as Devon): http://www.centralpark.com/usr/photos/large/83/central-park-from-above.jpg Like I've said before, Devon would be a significant building even in Manhattan. UnFrSaKn 01-26-2012, 01:39 AM http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/UnFrSaKn/Downtown%20OKC/okcnyc1.jpg Urbanized 01-26-2012, 09:37 AM Yeah, that confirms my rough calculation. I didn't have much doubt about that. I just want to see it rooted in Midtown next to the ESB. Personally I think that would be a far more impressive comparison than a schematic where it's the smallest building on the page. Devon would be roughly tied with the 10th-tallest finished building in NYC, a city with thousands of relatively tall structures. It's not so much how it compares to the ESB, it's how it compares to everything else. Cooper_GOIVM 01-26-2012, 03:20 PM Any chance you had a daytime shot similar to the nighttime one that we were all oohing and ahhing over? Looks like the night shot was taken at about the roof height of the building, so around 850'. I've been dying to photoshop a properly-scaled Devon Tower into the shot below, taken from the Top of Rock observation deck at 30 Rockefeller Center. By coincidence, 30 Rock is 850,' so the vantage point would be fairly similar. I started to use the Devon Tower from your night shot, but it would just look too weird stuck in this daytime view. The distance between 49th St and 34th is 7/10 of a mile, and it looks like you were about the same from Devon. That angle would be close to perfect. By my quick calculations (who knows, I might be wrong), Devon would reach the first setback from the main building profile, towering over almost everything in Midtown except the ESB itself (Chrysler, BofA, Citigroup would show up in wider shots). The cabs of the Devon Tower cranes would be close to the roofline of the ESB. That just trips me the heck out. Photo: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c7/Empire_State_Building_from_the_Top_of_the_Rock.jpg/450px-Empire_State_Building_from_the_Top_of_the_Rock.jpg [IMG]http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/8913/devon.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/862/devon.jpg/) Shot this in late October 2011. Closest I have to something that would work for you. I'm aiming for a late Tuesday flight next week, weather permitting. Shooting for 2 different clients now instead of 1 so it'll be about a 3 hour flight. Tons great pics on the way. OKCisOK4me 01-26-2012, 03:54 PM Next Tuesday is dry with a high of 62, so probably 47-53 when you go out for your flight and should be clear. Although a few wisps of clouds would be nice for a background. gamermp101 01-26-2012, 07:40 PM [IMG]http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/8913/devon.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/862/devon.jpg/) Shot this in late October 2011. Closest I have to something that would work for you. I'm aiming for a late Tuesday flight next week, weather permitting. Shooting for 2 different clients now instead of 1 so it'll be about a 3 hour flight. Tons great pics on the way. That's a great picture, but I do think that they need to demolish the Cox Center and replace it with something more aesthetically pleasing. Just a thought, but maybe the city could extend the canal into that location and give it a proper ending, while building commercial structures or condos around it. Perhapes another tall skyscraper location along the extended canal? Mike63 01-26-2012, 07:48 PM If they destroy the Cox Center what will happen to our hockey team? skanaly 01-26-2012, 08:00 PM They will be destroyed! nooo lol. They could always go to the Chesapeake arena..we've done that before, they need to wait until the new CC is built, then they can tear it up Just the facts 01-26-2012, 08:01 PM If they destroy the Cox Center what will happen to our hockey team? They can move to Chesapeake Arena. skanaly 01-26-2012, 08:17 PM Exactly Just the facts dankrutka 01-26-2012, 08:50 PM The only reason I can think of to keep Cox is to bid on Big 12 basketball tournaments. They like 2 arenas nearby for men's and women's. Although there's been talk of splitting them up. If they stay together, with Mizzou leaving the conference, OKC has a great case to host both tourneys. Just the facts 01-26-2012, 10:02 PM I would rather have 4 new blocks of developable downtown space than the Big XII tournament. Rover 01-26-2012, 10:23 PM I believe it hosts a lot more than the occasional B12 tournament. Bellaboo 01-26-2012, 10:48 PM They can move to Chesapeake Arena. There is not enough open dates to put the hockey along with the Thunder, too much schedule conflict..... Rover 01-26-2012, 11:04 PM Maybe hockey isn't urban enough. In a decade, the Cox arena will be leveled and Maps VI will build a great new arena development where the cotton mill is, and the canal will run to the front of it. Blocks will be reclaimed downtown for a 50 story hotel/condo/apartment project and some will still bitch that the new arena will take up too much space near Bricktown. That's what my crystal ball sees Teo9969 01-27-2012, 12:15 AM Maybe hockey isn't urban enough. In a decade, the Cox arena will be leveled and Maps VI will build a great new arena development where the cotton mill is, and the canal will run to the front of it. Blocks will be reclaimed downtown for a 50 story hotel/condo/apartment project and some will still bitch that the new arena will take up too much space near Bricktown. That's what my crystal ball sees I would love to be on Maps VI in a decade, but Maps IV is probably closer to reality :-/. And Hockey is super urban ;). The playing field is built right up next to the seats, and the rink is a mixed-use development. shawnw 01-27-2012, 02:59 AM North crown, 1/22: http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-e2lOKU7qr-k/TyJk1yE_v8I/AAAAAAAAQYw/dEQsA_VQFh0/s640/106_5129.jpg North crown, 1/24 (top row going in): http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-YxW8XgfRs4c/TyJk1gBr5EI/AAAAAAAAQYw/8bGtgzZYUT8/s640/106_5130.jpg North crown, 1/26 (final side glass of west crown going in): http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-q3yeHulEfOk/TyJk1AWzt-I/AAAAAAAAQYw/hpZK1wVJnR0/s640/106_5131.jpg Just the facts 01-27-2012, 09:39 AM There is not enough open dates to put the hockey along with the Thunder, too much schedule conflict..... The NHL/AHL and NBA share arenas all over the country. It only takes a few hours to reconfigure the arena for each sport. UnFrSaKn 01-27-2012, 10:04 AM This is finally done, from Monday. January 23 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qZ2gGERe6s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qZ2gGERe6s Pete 01-27-2012, 10:28 AM Awesome as usual, Will! Here are some screen captures: http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/skyline12612.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/skyline12612b.jpg http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/skyline12612c.jpg Rover 01-27-2012, 11:01 AM The NHL/AHL and NBA share arenas all over the country. It only takes a few hours to reconfigure the arena for each sport. And we would continue to lose entertainment events like concerts to Tulsa and Wichita. MDot 01-27-2012, 12:09 PM The NHL/AHL and NBA share arenas all over the country. It only takes a few hours to reconfigure the arena for each sport. When the Thunder played in New Jersey last Saturday the New Jersey Devils (NHL) had played a home game in the same arena just a few hours prior to the Nets-Thunder game. Pete 01-27-2012, 12:10 PM The Staples Center in LA hosts TWO NBA teams, an NHL team and still features many big concerts. dankrutka 01-27-2012, 12:38 PM And we would continue to lose entertainment events like concerts to Tulsa and Wichita. I live in Wichita and I can promise you that OKC is not losing many entertainment events to Wichita. There is a nice, new arena here and there is crap to see in it. With the BOK and Cain's Tulsa obviously pulls a lot of stuff. metro 01-27-2012, 12:47 PM And we would continue to lose entertainment events like concerts to Tulsa and Wichita. We lost to Tulsa because we don't have anything like Cains, AND the main reason was because the Ford Center was under construction the last 2+ years and the TEMPORARY loss of shows was expected. Plenty of larger cities share NHL/NBA/concerts under the same roof, we are no exception. Just the facts 01-27-2012, 01:01 PM And we would continue to lose entertainment events like concerts to Tulsa and Wichita. Only for 4 months out out of the year. AA Arena in Dallas host NBA, NHL, and concerts all the time. I have previously posted video of AA hosting NBA, NHL, a concert, and a rodeo in 36 hours. Here is a video of 4 events in 6 days just for an example. These quick change videos are a dime a dozen on youtube. 40kR1D5R30s Bellaboo 01-27-2012, 03:17 PM I live in Wichita and I can promise you that OKC is not losing many entertainment events to Wichita. There is a nice, new arena here and there is crap to see in it. With the BOK and Cain's Tulsa obviously pulls a lot of stuff. I remember when the Thunder announced this summer that they would play a pre-season game at the new arena in Wichita, the fans up there were so excited. They were really complaining of having the new InTrust arena I believe it's called, and hardly anything was booked for it. Then the preseason got cancelled a couple of months later.......and they had one less event to see. UptownGirl 01-27-2012, 03:36 PM Return to topic now? Just the facts 01-27-2012, 03:44 PM Return to topic now? Yep - myth busted. dankrutka 01-27-2012, 03:54 PM I remember when the Thunder announced this summer that they would play a pre-season game at the new arena in Wichita, the fans up there were so excited. They were really complaining of having the new InTrust arena I believe it's called, and hardly anything was booked for it. Then the preseason got cancelled a couple of months later.......and they had one less event to see. I had just moved from downtown OKC to downtown Wichita and was pumped for that game... Stupid lockout. :( MDot 01-27-2012, 06:47 PM Pete (or whoever positively knows), I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this but I'm asking for clarification; are the LED's going to go all the way up the side of the tower or will they only be at the bottom where they've been testing them? metro 01-27-2012, 07:10 PM Pete (or whoever positively knows), I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this but I'm asking for clarification; are the LED's going to go all the way up the side of the tower or will they only be at the bottom where they've been testing them? None of us have ALL the exacts (Devon hasn't made the info public), but they will run the entire length of the recessed portion and the entire triangular crowns will have TONS of LEDS everywhere. MDot 01-27-2012, 07:55 PM None of us have ALL the exacts (Devon hasn't made the info public), but they will run the entire length of the recessed portion and the entire triangular crowns will have TONS of LEDS everywhere. Thanks, metro. I knew about the crown but wasn't certain about the recessed portion. mrktguy29 01-27-2012, 08:44 PM I hope this answers the questions on the LED lighting. These are from the architects website combined into a animation file to show the difference between day and night. http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l527/mrktguy29/Devon%20Gif/DevonDayAndNight.gif Mike63 01-27-2012, 10:28 PM We have seen them test sections but will each pane be capable of independent colors? KayneMo 01-27-2012, 10:33 PM Downtown OKC seen from OU: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kayneshots/6773930191/ SoonerBoy18 01-27-2012, 11:24 PM Did anyone on here know that Japan constructed a 30 story hotel building in 15 days. How did they do that and could the Devon tower could have been done in a similiar way say about 50 stories in 60 days? OKCisOK4me 01-27-2012, 11:32 PM Did anyone on here know that Japan constructed a 30 story hotel building in 15 days. How did they do that and could the Devon tower could have been done in a similiar way say about 50 stories in 60 days? Yes & NO Dustin 01-28-2012, 12:02 AM I wish we could use the image on the OKC Chamber website (http://www.okcchamber.com/index.php?src=) for our banner! Rover 01-28-2012, 12:24 AM It was China and yeah, it was posted here. I suspect it wont take long for that type of modular construction to creep into the US. It looks very economical. It is already here. I have worked with contractors who pre build and assemble on site. More speed and less mistakes. But requires full 3d modeling with all engineering. Not all suppliers here provide proper digital drawings to make all this easy. Thundercitizen 01-28-2012, 01:26 AM Taking advantage of Cooper_GOIVM's photo and crane removal skills, thought I'd throw a guess out there as to what the LEDs might sorta look like when lit. Are there LEDs on the inside of the crown? I'm guessing there are. Someone with better compositing skills than I could make it far more realistic. http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/4724/devonleds00000.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/devonleds00000.jpg/) MDot 01-28-2012, 01:29 AM I hope this answers the questions on the LED lighting. These are from the architects website combined into a animation file to show the difference between day and night. http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l527/mrktguy29/Devon%20Gif/DevonDayAndNight.gif It does. Metro gave me my answer but this help me - and others - visualize it better. Pete 01-28-2012, 10:18 AM I've posted this before, but the Duke Energy Center in Charlotte is pretty close to what we are likely to see from Devon Tower: tplx2CIuHfc UnFrSaKn 01-28-2012, 01:47 PM January 28 2012 http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/UnFrSaKn/Downtown%20OKC/Devon%20Tower/January%202012/devontowercrownprogress1-28-12-1.jpg http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/UnFrSaKn/Downtown%20OKC/Devon%20Tower/January%202012/devontowercrownprogress1-28-12-2.jpg http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/UnFrSaKn/Downtown%20OKC/Devon%20Tower/January%202012/devontowercrownprogress1-28-12-3.jpg http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/UnFrSaKn/Downtown%20OKC/Devon%20Tower/January%202012/devontowercrownprogress1-28-12-4.jpg http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/UnFrSaKn/Downtown%20OKC/Devon%20Tower/January%202012/devontowercrownprogress1-28-12-5.jpg http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/UnFrSaKn/Downtown%20OKC/Devon%20Tower/January%202012/devontowercrownprogress1-28-12-6.jpg http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/UnFrSaKn/Downtown%20OKC/Devon%20Tower/January%202012/devontowercrownprogress1-28-12-7.jpg http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/UnFrSaKn/Downtown%20OKC/Devon%20Tower/January%202012/devontowercrownprogress1-28-12-8.jpg http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/UnFrSaKn/Downtown%20OKC/Devon%20Tower/January%202012/devontowercrownprogress1-28-12-9.jpg http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/UnFrSaKn/Downtown%20OKC/Devon%20Tower/January%202012/devontowercrownprogress1-28-12-10.jpg dankrutka 01-28-2012, 01:49 PM So close!!! Pete 01-28-2012, 02:04 PM They still have a lot of work to do as only one of the triangles has back panels and another has zero front or back. They need the cranes to complete all that work but the cranes almost certainly have to come down before they can start moving people in. I'm beginning to wonder if they are going to make their previously-announced March date... That's only a month or two away. UnFrSaKn 01-28-2012, 02:27 PM Cooper_GOIVM should join forces with William Hider to form some sort of super photography club,Lol!We have some great contributors to this site,keep it up guys! Not sure if Cooper would go for this. BG918 01-28-2012, 03:28 PM Downtown OKC seen from OU: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kayneshots/6773930191/ Awesome shot...you can see Devon looking to the north from all the taller (4+ story) buildings at OU. You just see the tops of the rest of the skyline due to downtown being in a broad valley, and Norman also being in a valley with parts of south OKC and Moore in between a couple hundred feet higher in elevation. Teo9969 01-28-2012, 03:33 PM Awesome shot...you can see Devon looking to the north from all the taller (4+ story) buildings at OU. You just see the tops of the rest of the skyline due to downtown being in a broad valley, and Norman also being in a valley with parts of south OKC and Moore in between a couple hundred feet higher in elevation. First National looks like a church from that distance. Dulahey 01-28-2012, 05:47 PM I was downtown last night and they were heavily testing the LED's in all 3 recessed areas. Unfortunately I didn't have my camera. On the North side they had almost every single segment lit up from the ground up to the floor where the permanent interior lights have been installed. They were also flashing individual lines and segments on and off. SoonerBoy18 01-28-2012, 11:18 PM I SOOOO cant wait for the resuraunt. Will all the floors be completed say about September this year? When will all the employees be allowed to move in? KayneMo 01-29-2012, 07:28 AM Went and took some photos yesterday evening! Downtown OKC from St. Anthony's: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kayneshots/6781934627/in/photostream Looking south towards Devon Energy Center on Harvey Ave: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kayneshots/6781935939/in/photostream/ |