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G.Walker
06-24-2011, 04:12 PM
Its a great project, and Tulsa will have the bragging rights to say they developed the first large scale mixed-used development in a downtown core, compared to OKC.

rcjunkie
06-24-2011, 04:46 PM
Its a great project, and Tulsa will have the bragging rights to say they developed the first large scale mixed-used development in a downtown core, compared to OKC.

BIG DEAL, it's way past time everyone gets over the Tulsa vs OKC BS anyway.

OKCPetro83
06-24-2011, 04:59 PM
I totally agree Rcjunkie. It isn't productive. They should be talking about how to work together not bash one another.

dankrutka
06-24-2011, 04:59 PM
I agree. The Tulsa-OKC rivalry is silly. Having said that, if the competitiveness and/or jealousy can lead to better projects then I'm all for the pettiness continuing.

ZYX2
06-24-2011, 05:07 PM
BIG DEAL, it's way past time everyone gets over the Tulsa vs OKC BS anyway.

I don't think he was trying to start a rivalry thread, he was just saying that Tulsa would have the first major mixed use development in downtown. Hopefully OKC will have one soon. I'm glad that Tulsa has this, and it is kinda fun that we have it before OKC. Again, not trying to start a fight, more like healthy competition, no reason for anyone to be bitter. There is plenty that both cities have going for them.

G.Walker
06-24-2011, 07:05 PM
I don't think he was trying to start a rivalry thread, he was just saying that Tulsa would have the first major mixed use development in downtown. Hopefully OKC will have one soon. I'm glad that Tulsa has this, and it is kinda fun that we have it before OKC. Again, not trying to start a fight, more like healthy competition, no reason for anyone to be bitter. There is plenty that both cities have going for them.

Thanks, some people are just so defensive, lol. I'm just simply congratulating Oklahoma's second largest city, good job Tulsa.

Swake2
08-16-2011, 03:12 PM
Here's another rendering of the Place One development, shows the scale of the whole development:

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/268/oneplacesitemassing.jpg

dmoor82
08-16-2011, 06:06 PM
^^Thats as good as it gets right there,all buildings will be built right to street level,and all on one block!Any word on the parking sitiuation for this complex?

Swake2
08-17-2011, 10:03 AM
Underground.

And there's an existing parking garage across the street

dmoor82
08-19-2011, 05:44 PM
As this will be Oklahoma's first true mixed use development is there anything that you guy's could compare this too,so I could get a feel on what this might look like when completed!Also,someone might want to go over to SSC or SSP and start a new proposed thread for either the tallest tower in this development or the entire development in the Tulsa compilation thread!

Swake2
08-19-2011, 08:16 PM
It's not the only one. The Village on Main in Jenks is ahead of this one. Some of the outer buildings are completed, site work is about done and the core of the buildings is supposed to start in the next two weeks or so. Condos, restaurants, a hotel, an organic grocery store, retail, offices and a medical clinic all with structured parking in the middle in downtown Jenks. The medical clinic and one restaurant are open now.

It's the same developer doing both projects.

http://www.villageonmain.com/images/temp_img.jpg

Article from yesterday on the project
http://jenksjournal.com/news/council-action-paves-way-for-village-on-main/article_15ccd2e0-c900-11e0-b78e-001cc4c03286.html

dmoor82
08-24-2011, 06:40 PM
It's not the only one. The Village on Main in Jenks is ahead of this one. Some of the outer buildings are completed, site work is about done and the core of the buildings is supposed to start in the next two weeks or so. Condos, restaurants, a hotel, an organic grocery store, retail, offices and a medical clinic all with structured parking in the middle in downtown Jenks. The medical clinic and one restaurant are open now.

It's the same developer doing both projects.

http://www.villageonmain.com/images/temp_img.jpg

Article from yesterday on the project
http://jenksjournal.com/news/council-action-paves-way-for-village-on-main/article_15ccd2e0-c900-11e0-b78e-001cc4c03286.html

I think I like the OnePlace proposal better than this one even if this one is allready off the ground!I just like that OnePlace will be in dt Tulsa across the street from the BOK center and it will be vertical,and more urban imo.

TulsaRobert
08-25-2011, 10:37 AM
I think I like the OnePlace proposal better than this one even if this one is allready off the ground!I just like that OnePlace will be in dt Tulsa across the street from the BOK center and it will be vertical,and more urban imo.

I obviously prefer the one in downtown Tulsa. But given that this is in a suburb, I'm pretty impressed by the density.

dmoor82
08-30-2011, 08:59 PM
I obviously prefer the one in downtown Tulsa. But given that this is in a suburb, I'm pretty impressed by the density.

^^Agreed,given that is IS a suburb and still Oklahoma's only true mixed use development say's alot!Any new info on this project?Anyone?

Thunder
08-30-2011, 11:39 PM
dmoor82, I like the one in Jenks better, because there is whole lot more greens. This is extremely important. The one in Tulsa...destructive. Just look at it. Is that what you want Earth to become?

dmoor82
08-31-2011, 05:38 PM
^^Destructive?I? think you mean efficient,urban,sustainable,AWESOME!

ZYX2
08-31-2011, 10:11 PM
Thunder, while that one in Jenks is more spread out, (surface parking, lower density, not AS walkable) it won't be including much green. I frequently drive by this site and can tell you that the size, amount, and even existence of many of those trees is WAY overblown.

If you're worried about saving the planet, then you would prefer the One Place project. That project takes up a lot less space, (leaving more room for trees and grass elsewhere) and includes a lot more square footage. While Village on Main is impressive for a suburb, it is nowhere near as urban or sustainable as One Place.

BG918
09-23-2011, 01:41 PM
There was an article in the Tulsa World yesterday about the second groundbreaking for the 5 story office building at the NW corner of this project. It will be primarily occupied by Northwestern Mutual Insurance with street level retail space. The 18 story office building broke ground in July at the NE corner of the site, across from the BOK Center. It will be occupied by Cimarex Energy. The hotel and mixed-use apartments will begin construction next year.

Pete
09-23-2011, 02:25 PM
Why are there no decent renderings for this project?

Chautauqua
09-23-2011, 02:46 PM
It's a good question....here is the most recent I have seen, of any phase, pete.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6165/6176135288_c681866c39_b.jpg

MDot
09-23-2011, 03:05 PM
It's a good question....here is the most recent I have seen, of any phase, pete.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6165/6176135288_c681866c39_b.jpg

That's a good rendering, but the tower is still a gray box.

Anxious to see what the tower itself will look like.

SkyWestOKC
09-23-2011, 03:32 PM
Should be a good infill development for Tulsa.

BG918
09-23-2011, 03:56 PM
Should be a good infill development for Tulsa.

Yes, not a signature building by any means but much better than a parking lot. The entire complex should be pretty cool once it's complete with the hotel and mixed-use residential components. It should help integrate the BOK Center and Convention Center area better with the rest of downtown to the east.

dwellsokc
11-01-2011, 11:00 AM
...see renderings of The Office Tower at One Place:
http://www.milesassociates.com/projects-details.aspx?projectid=37&ontheboards=1

G.Walker
11-01-2011, 12:30 PM
pretty disappointed with the design, the design doesn't say urban at all, and I hope that is not cement cladding or stucco...but its "ok" they could have done better.

MDot
11-01-2011, 12:34 PM
pretty disappointed with the design, the design doesn't say urban at all, and I hope that is not cement cladding or stucco...but its "ok" they could have done better.

Also disappointed in the design but I think it'll come out fine. It's still overall a great development.

dwellsokc
11-01-2011, 03:04 PM
The exterior cladding is precast concrete. I'm curious... what kind of things would make the building more "urban?"

G.Walker
11-01-2011, 03:22 PM
The exterior cladding is precast concrete. I'm curious... what kind of things would make the building more "urban?"

http://www.nysun.com/pics/2628_large.jpg

MDot
11-01-2011, 03:25 PM
http://www.nysun.com/pics/2628_large.jpg

Sorry to temporarily derail this thread but where is this building located?

G.Walker
11-01-2011, 03:32 PM
sorry to temporarily derail this thread but where is this building located?

nyc

G.Walker
11-01-2011, 03:33 PM
http://www.milesassociates.com/projectImages/37-1.jpg

Similar To Tower at St. John's Medical Center in Tulsa

http://www.emporis.com/images/show/254177-Large.jpg

MDot
11-01-2011, 03:38 PM
nyc

Thought it was as it seems like I've seen it before but was just making sure. Gracias.

Pete
11-01-2011, 03:43 PM
Looks like an uglier version of OKC's Robinson Plaza, which is marginal to begin with:

http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/Searches/sketches/picfile/2730/R010014810001rA.jpg

MDot
11-01-2011, 03:46 PM
:omg: Pete's right!

BG918
11-01-2011, 06:52 PM
Pretty decent for an infill tower..will look better when the 2nd St streetscape is extended west in front of it. Definitely an improvement over a parking lot across from the BOK Center. Both office buildings and the second phase with the hotel and apartments with an interior courtyard and pool will make this a top notch development. The second phase is also supposed to have more retail and restaurant space.

MDot
11-01-2011, 07:33 PM
Like I said; not so impressive design, but great development.

Dustin
11-01-2011, 08:42 PM
Oh lawd have mercy!!! Please don't let it look like that...

ZYX2
11-01-2011, 09:24 PM
While the design of this building is horribly unimaginative, it adds more office and retail to downtown and is a heck of a lot better than a parking lot. I actually don't think it will look bad upon completion, it just won't be anything you want to stare at. Hopefully the rest of the complex will look more like the insurance company's building.

Even though the design for this building is nothing to get excited about, the entire development is definitely a huge gain for Tulsa. And you never know, one day this may be a cool style that we think looks good. No I'm not kidding.

Also, the other renderings do make the building look better.

MDot
11-01-2011, 09:33 PM
While the design of this building is horribly unimaginative, it adds more office and retail to downtown and is a heck of a lot better than a parking lot. I actually don't think it will look bad upon completion, it just won't be anything you want to stare at. Hopefully the rest of the complex will look more like the insurance company's building.

Even though the design for this building is nothing to get excited about, the entire development is definitely a huge gain for Tulsa. And you never know, one day this may be a cool style that we think looks good. No I'm not kidding.

Also, the other renderings do make the building look better.

You and BG918 made the same points and I agree with both of you, I've just been more "short sentence" about it. Lol

Urban Enthusiast
11-30-2011, 04:14 PM
FYI. . . Oxblue (http://oxblue.com/pro/open/oneplacetower) has a construction webcam of this development.

MDot
11-30-2011, 05:23 PM
FYI. . . Oxblue (http://oxblue.com/pro/open/oneplacetower) has a construction webcam of this development.

Thank you so much!

Spartan
11-30-2011, 05:35 PM
The street level is actually kind of nice. But that tower is seriously fugly.

Skyline
11-30-2011, 07:58 PM
Here in Okc we throw these measly $38M into the gutter. Just ask Bomasada,.....
A $38 million housing development was recently scrapped in response to ongoing delays by Oklahoma City to create a railroad quiet zone along Automobile Alley.

Read more: http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-delays-on-creating-railroad-quiet-zone-blamed-for-death-of-38-million-development/article/3626883#ixzz1fFCAlTnd


You do know we're a "Big League City"?:doh:

MDot
11-30-2011, 08:16 PM
Here in Okc we throw these measly $38M into the gutter. Just ask Bomasada,.....

You do know we're a "Big League City"?:doh:

Been discussed already over in the Automobile Alley thread.

Just the facts
11-30-2011, 09:16 PM
The exterior cladding is precast concrete. I'm curious... what kind of things would make the building more "urban?"

Brick or masonry, tall narrow windows, and thick exterior walls on the lower floors. It also helps getting the building as close to the street as possible, and of course the narrower the street the better.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9EqQM5FsF1Q/TFo1ZPyan2I/AAAAAAAAAI4/FYZYyozKBts/s1600/on+Rittenhouse.jpg

MDot
11-30-2011, 10:16 PM
Kerry stresses the same point everytime he posts about urbanism. LOL

Just the facts
11-30-2011, 10:20 PM
Kerry stresses the same point everytime he posts about urbanism. LOL

He asked what makes a building more urban so I told him. Do you not think the 3 story building I posted looks more urban than the 20 story building in Tulsa? The Tulsa building might as well be built out in a suburban office park - it is indistinguishable from every other building built in every office park across the country.

MDot
11-30-2011, 10:33 PM
He asked what makes a build more urban so I told him. Do you not think the 3 story building I posted looks more urban than the 20 story building in Tulsa?

LOL I never said I disagreed with you...it does look more urban though since you asked.

Just the facts
11-30-2011, 10:35 PM
LOL I never said I disagreed with you...it does look more urban though since you asked.

Well, if nothing else, I am consistant.

MDot
11-30-2011, 10:39 PM
Well, if nothing else, I am consistant.

True. :Smiley199

Dustin
11-30-2011, 11:47 PM
FYI. . . Oxblue (http://oxblue.com/pro/open/oneplacetower) has a construction webcam of this development.

That is one amazing and beautiful arena!