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Bostonfan 05-12-2009, 08:22 PM Golden Coral. Uggh. I feel like a hog at the trough.... Cici's pizza at 23rd and Meridian..... I believe my I.Q. drops 20 points upon entering..... they do have some good mexican pizza tho.
Pizza Hut 23rd and meridian. FAIL
You couldn't drag me into any macdonalds or carls or taco b.
Last time I went to Cattlemen's Cafe, I couldn't get 20 feet away from a toilet for the rest of the day....(which is weird, they're usually awesome)
I almost died from Wendy's once.
Got a bad shrimp from Dot Wo once. Lost 10 lbs over that one.
heh..... KFC and Grandy's are horrible too. Dang you can almost taste the MSG in there.
Couldn't agree more about golden coral.....
But Cattlemen's?? Now that is weird.
Bostonfan 05-12-2009, 08:23 PM Amazing! Something we agree on. :smile: I emailed the owner of that Carl's Jr several months ago to tell him how horrible the food and service was. I got a breakfast sandwich that tasted like it was left over from the day before. The attitudes of some of the people there are just downright awful. The owner responded to my email and apologized but nothing changed since I went back a couple of times more to give them another chance. I don't go there anymore.
Amazing indeed!! I really don't know how Carl's stays in business.
Now here is the true test. Can we agree with this? :ou2
Amazing indeed!! I really don't know how Carl's stays in business.
Now here is the true test. Can we agree with this? :ou2
Absolutely. Man, we're on a roll! :LolLolLol
nik4411 05-12-2009, 09:55 PM Oh yea, I also have to agree on Golden Coral. That place is worthless. Last time I went, I found like 3 things that looked edible in the whole joint. That was a while back, haven't been back since.
Thunder 05-12-2009, 10:31 PM I luv eating at Golden Corral. I don't honestly see anything wrong there. Everything is edible. The only interesting thing that I've learned from that place is that the eggs (for breakfast) is made from powder. Just add water. LOL
kevinpate 05-12-2009, 11:00 PM Never really had a bad rattle rattle, here come the cattle GC experience, though I do miss the old Ryan's, as the one in Norman was excellent in its day. The only two GC's I really ever land in are on 240 and in Norman. Sometimes out of state, but those are the two local ones for me.
MsDarkstar 05-13-2009, 09:05 AM A former boss of mine had a very thick southern (bordering on hillbilly) twang & referred to buffet places as "all ya could swaller fer a dollar." It always amused me that she could make the word swallow rhyme with dollar lol.
westsidesooner 05-13-2009, 10:57 AM Never really had a bad rattle rattle, here come the cattle GC experience, though I do miss the old Ryan's, as the one in Norman was excellent in its day. The only two GC's I really ever land in are on 240 and in Norman. Sometimes out of state, but those are the two local ones for me.
Funny how we all have pet names for golden corral. And they all involve cattle. lol We have always caledl it the golden feed trough. I've maybe eaten there three times. Its not the worst. Its just different. The main thing that sticks out to me every time I go there is the size of the other customers, and the amount of food they can pile on one plate. Before going back for plates 2-7. Its somehow funny and sad at the same time. I'm pretty lean so its almost a waste of time for me to go to a buffet. (except Mackeys....love it)
Is the Ryans you mentioned the same chain that took over Fire Mountain on I-40? If so would anyone recomend it? I'm afraid to try it since my experience with FM was so bad.
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Prunepicker 05-13-2009, 12:14 PM I'd like to go to a restaurant and not...
be called "guys".
tell us their name and surprise us that they'll be serving us. I don't want
perky and bubbly, I want good service.
be asked, "how does everything taste?" If it stunk we'd tell you.
have some waitress/waiter keep the change without asking. I don't care if
it's 5 cents. I'll determine the tip.
westsidesooner 05-13-2009, 12:34 PM Funny you should mention the change part. I was thinking about listing that in the pet peeves section. And your right....its not about the amount, its about me deciding what to do with my money. I absolutely hate it when someone asks "do you want your change?"
or
getting all one dollar bills back when I order a $2 beer with a 10.
I really hated it once when the pizza delivery person wore a badge stating
"I accept tips" then when he handed me my $16 pizza order asked if I wanted my change from the $20 bill I had given him. If he hadnt asked or wore the badge I probably would have tipped him 2 or 3 dollars........he got nadda.
I also hate restaurants that impose a tip on me or my group. It should be illegal.
Thunder 05-13-2009, 01:51 PM I understand why a pizza delivery would wear a badge with "I accept tips." I've never realized that they should be tipped. It's a good thing they wear the badge, cuz it shows the people that their wages depend on tips. No need to be mad about it.
mdb75 05-13-2009, 01:52 PM Both of the Mickey D's in Shawnee are terrible. Usually overcrowded, dirty, slow, and poor food quality. If I want a GOOD one, I stop at the one just off I-40 westbound on the northside just before Tinker. They are everything the Shawnee ones aren't.
I share the negative with Arby's. Just went to one on Air Depot I think just north of Tinker. Food all over the floor and tables, trash all over, food quality was poor and the mens toilet was overflowing (clogged). When the staff was told about it, his response was , "so".
ddavidson8 05-16-2009, 09:47 AM I just had a random thought...I can't remember the last time I got a meal that wasn't exactly what I ordered. From anywhere, fast food or sit-down.
After guest car-hopping for the last two years as a fundraiser, I know now how crazy some people are when they order, at least at Sonic. One woman threw a fit, a crazy fit, at the drive-thru window over a blast. They were out of the tall lids, so they were putting regular lids on the blasts, and the girl did a little trick to mix them up, like a malt, to "get all the good stuff to the top," as she said. The woman saw her do this (after sending back the original blast back because there was a drip on the outside, I kid you not. She wanted a NEW one) and asked if the girl thought she was funny.
She drove away. I ate the blast. It was yummy, and all the "good stuff" was at the top.
But, like I said, I can't recall any recent past wrong orders. I've had some slow service at a few places, but nothing outrageous. Perhaps my standards are low. Perhaps I order things that are easy.
Reminds me of the time when someone ordered a margarita from the bar and when she received it she sent it back because it had salt. She of course never asked for one without salt. The bartender took a new glass poured salt in the bottom of the glass and filled it with the margarita. The lady was later asked how her margarita was and of course it was "wonderful".
ddavidson8 05-16-2009, 09:59 AM I'd like to go to a restaurant and not...
be called "guys".
tell us their name and surprise us that they'll be serving us. I don't want
perky and bubbly, I want good service.
be asked, "how does everything taste?" If it stunk we'd tell you.
have some waitress/waiter keep the change without asking. I don't care if
it's 5 cents. I'll determine the tip.
In regards to everything except the tipping part, you should realize that these kids are trained to do all those things.
Hi, I'm Dan and I'll be your server tonight. Have you ever been to _____ before? No? Well, let me tell you that we cut all of our steaks fresh every day. Our signiture drink is the _____. Our feature (not special) is the ____. Can I start you off with a cold beer or margarita? How about an order of cheese fries?
ddavidson8 05-16-2009, 10:03 AM Funny you should mention the change part. I was thinking about listing that in the pet peeves section. And your right....its not about the amount, its about me deciding what to do with my money. I absolutely hate it when someone asks "do you want your change?"
or
getting all one dollar bills back when I order a $2 beer with a 10.
I really hated it once when the pizza delivery person wore a badge stating
"I accept tips" then when he handed me my $16 pizza order asked if I wanted my change from the $20 bill I had given him. If he hadnt asked or wore the badge I probably would have tipped him 2 or 3 dollars........he got nadda.
I also hate restaurants that impose a tip on me or my group. It should be illegal.
Sorry to post so many responses. The imposed gratuity is important on large groups for several reasons, the primary one being that if the bills on large groups are split, it's easy to "mistake" which one of the checks will leave a tip and then the waiter who rang $300 dollars gits nada or very little. Then he/she has to tip out (of his own money) to the other non-service staff. On top of that, the gratuity charged on groups of 8 or more is often less than 15%, so you are usually saving money (assuming you tip 15%).
oneforone 05-16-2009, 01:42 PM I do not like the fact that tips are now expected in almost every setting. I never tip in a quick service store. (IE: Coffee shop, Doughnut shops, sandwhich shops) Your not doing any more work then the folks across the street at McDonalds.) If I want I want to tip you, I will give you one. Putting up a sign, wearing a badge, or putting out a tip jar just annoys me.
I do tip almost every time in a table service setting or when a delivery person, installer or laborer goes above beyond what is expected.
Waitstaff usually fall into three categories.
Crappy service: You get a few coins on the table.
Standard service: I will give you 15%
Outstanding Service: I will tip 30%. I also let the server know the service was great and I thank them.
ddavidson8 05-17-2009, 09:25 AM I do not like the fact that tips are now expected in almost every setting. I never tip in a quick service store. (IE: Coffee shop, Doughnut shops, sandwhich shops) Your not doing any more work then the folks across the street at McDonalds.) If I want I want to tip you, I will give you one. Putting up a sign, wearing a badge, or putting out a tip jar just annoys me.
I do tip almost every time in a table service setting or when a delivery person, installer or laborer goes above beyond what is expected.
Waitstaff usually fall into three categories.
Crappy service: You get a few coins on the table.
Standard service: I will give you 15%
Outstanding Service: I will tip 30%. I also let the server know the service was great and I thank them.
Couldn't agree more.
CuatrodeMayo 05-18-2009, 08:37 AM Visited Spagetti Warehouse last night...
Never again.
kevinpate 05-18-2009, 08:53 AM > Never again.
Sad to hear. Was the issue the quality of the food, the service or the cleanliness?
I've not popped in for a spell, but in days past, it was one of my regular choices.
Prunepicker 05-18-2009, 08:59 AM In regards to everything except the tipping part, you should realize that
these kids are trained to do all those things.
Hi, I'm Dan and I'll be your server tonight...
I know they're trained to do that. I still can't stand it. They're probably
trained to cast etiquette aside, i.e. to cut in front of you on your way to the
restroom or while trying to leave because we're just customers, or to walk
you very fast to the table.
I do not like the fact that tips are now expected in almost every setting. I never tip in a quick service store. (IE: Coffee shop, Doughnut shops, sandwhich shops) Your not doing any more work then the folks across the street at McDonalds.) If I want I want to tip you, I will give you one. Putting up a sign, wearing a badge, or putting out a tip jar just annoys me.
I do tip almost every time in a table service setting or when a delivery person, installer or laborer goes above beyond what is expected.
Waitstaff usually fall into three categories.
Crappy service: You get a few coins on the table.
Standard service: I will give you 15%
Outstanding Service: I will tip 30%. I also let the server know the service was great and I thank them.
your double standards are confusing.
take away tips at coffee shops and you'll get the kind of service you get at mcdonald's or walmart or the DMV. you get what you pay for.
and every person at my shop does a LOT more work than they do at mcdonald's. They are faster, friendlier, cleaner, more sincere and way more talented; and i ask way more of them than your average fast food worker.
i've been in every type of food service setting from biker bars to country clubs to pizza delivery(and everything in between); i've made my living on tips for 2 decades. i know how to give superior service. don't tell me because the product i pass across the bar is coffee that i don't deserve a tip.
Jesseda 05-19-2009, 02:55 PM i loved it when i use to go to spagetti wharehouse in highschool, they played the restaurant up so much, telling us it will be a 15 minute wait,( they said that every time we went there) and when they seat you there is maybe 3 to 4 other couples or family eating at the whole place lol, i love it when they try to act like they are packed with no immediate seating, do they still do that?
FlounderinDC 05-20-2009, 09:05 AM Pig Out Palace out on I-40 near Henryetta. The only thing that I dislike about that place is the expensive cost for a buffet. I guess they don't have much competition and it is by the highway. Outrageous prices!!!
WOW. I haven't thought of the Pig Out Palace in years. I went to high school in Henryetta and refused to eat there because the words "pig out" in the name used to disgust me. I think I ate there one time in 4 years and that was because they fed the football team before one of our games. The Hungry Traveler on the other side of the interstate was MUCH better...not sure if it is still there or not.
I'd like to nominate La Luna in Norman. I am very forgiving about restaurants, but I have tried and tried and I just don't like their food at all. It isn't good. And last time we were there the management came up to us in the middle of our meal and said "I need your table" and needed us to move. She apologized, but it didn't seem that sincere. No offer for a free beer or anything. I really think that place could be great with that outdoor area, but alas it needs a lot of work.
I had one of the worst meals I've ever had at The Deep Fork.
Thunder 05-20-2009, 12:53 PM There is a resturant on the other side of the highway, but I don't remember the name, but it does sound familiar. It's probably the same one still there.
LM401 05-20-2009, 01:37 PM I had one of the worst meals I've ever had at The Deep Fork.
Me too. I think Deep Fork is overrated.
I had one of the worst meals I've ever had at The Deep Fork.
i hope you made the manager-on-duty or wade star aware of it at the time so they could address any discrepancies, i promise you they would want to know.
personally, i've had some of the best food i have experienced in okc at Deep Fork / North Fork / Cafe Nova / The Wedge
I had one of the worst meals I've ever had at The Deep Fork.
About four years ago our family went there for dinner and spent a lot of money. We didn't think it was too good either. Haven't been back since. I've heard that things have improved since the last time we were there so we might try it again. When do you last eat there?
CuatrodeMayo 05-20-2009, 07:50 PM The Hungry Traveler on the other side of the interstate was MUCH better...not sure if it is still there or not.
Many a memory there between OKC and Tenkiller.
I'm pretty sure it is still there, but I hear it is not as good as it once was.
About four years ago our family went there for dinner and spent a lot of money. We didn't think it was too good either. Haven't been back since. I've heard that things have improved since the last time we were there so we might try it again. When do you last eat there?
It was sometime last year. All I have ever heard was how The Deep Fork was outstanding. Our meal was well over $100.00 (3 of us, no alcohol) and the only thing that was "okay" was the roasted chicken. But then there's The Wedge. I was shocked to find The Deep Fork is owned by the same company as The Wedge, probably my favorite restaurant in the city. I have never had a bad meal at The Wedge and have eaten there probably dozens of times (and I don't live in the city). I don't think I'll ever try The Deep Fork again.
your double standards are confusing.
take away tips at coffee shops and you'll get the kind of service you get at mcdonald's or walmart or the DMV. you get what you pay for.
and every person at my shop does a LOT more work than they do at mcdonald's. They are faster, friendlier, cleaner, more sincere and way more talented; and i ask way more of them than your average fast food worker.
i've been in every type of food service setting from biker bars to country clubs to pizza delivery(and everything in between); i've made my living on tips for 2 decades. i know how to give superior service. don't tell me because the product i pass across the bar is coffee that i don't deserve a tip.
No, just because someone makes my coffee well doesn't mean they should get a tip. If someone refills my drink several times, brings my food and/or whatever else, and cleans the table after, all for less than half minimum wage, then he/she should get a tip, and a good one at that. At how many movie theater counters do you tip? The workers make popcorn, food, drinks, etc., about the same amount as a barista, but I guarantee receive much more abuse from customers (mainly about the price of concessions-- but even about how "bad" the movie was), and don't expect tips. People don't usually leave huge messes at coffee shops, yet leave tips; and will make a huge mess in theaters and not leave a tip at the counter-- even though it is usually the counter people cleaning as well.
No, just because someone makes my coffee well doesn't mean they should get a tip. If someone refills my drink several times, brings my food and/or whatever else, and cleans the table after, all for less than half minimum wage, then he/she should get a tip, and a good one at that.
It doesn't matter how much the employer pays them, minimum wage or not. That arrangement is between them and is for services such as cleaning and stocking and showing up on time. I pay my people above minimum wage and their tips range from $2 to $6 an hour; and they deserve every penny of it and more.
An employee that works for tips is working for the customer, not his/her boss.
Tips are the ultimate form of "work, get paid; don't work, no money". If every job that involved customers was either tips or commission, the entire world of service would be better.
At how many movie theater counters do you tip? The workers make popcorn, food, drinks, etc., about the same amount as a barista, but I guarantee receive much more abuse from customers (mainly about the price of concessions-- but even about how "bad" the movie was), and don't expect tips.
No one should "expect" a tip. No matter how well they think they did. As I said before, I've made living on gratuity for two decades, and any attitude of expectation won't get you anything. You go out of your way to give incredible service because it is the right thing to do, if you get tipped it shows that they noticed your effort and appreciate it.
If a theater employee did a great job and had a tip jar, i would tip. Absolutely.
People don't usually leave huge messes at coffee shops, yet leave tips; and will make a huge mess in theaters and not leave a tip at the counter-- even though it is usually the counter people cleaning as well.
LOL, i've seen some pretty spectacular messes at the shop, you'd be surprised. Especially when kids are involved.
But some people are just plain rude with the landfills of trash they leave in the theater. Just because someone gets paid to clean up after you doesn't mean it is ok to be a pig and a jerk.
I think a tip jar is expecting a tip.
Thunder 05-21-2009, 02:02 PM Jim is right, people that depend on tips for a portion of their income does work for the customers. Workers should never expect a tip, because a lot of time, it will only let them down. I don't expect tips and when I do get them, I'm thankful for that.
I work for tips, and I work hard. There's a lot of things that I try to do to be superior than the other Sackers. Customers realize that and they remember. They really do remember! Work hard, don't look upset or sad, because customers is watching. They will even randomly give a tip, even when I didn't serve them, they will tip, because it is either they like me, know how good I am, or just to help make up for those that doesn't tip.
I got a haircut today and it cost me 10 bux. I tipped the lady 2 bux.
Jim is right, people that depend on tips for a portion of their income does work for the customers. Workers should never expect a tip, because a lot of time, it will only let them down. I don't expect tips and when I do get them, I'm thankful for that.
I work for tips, and I work hard. There's a lot of things that I try to do to be superior than the other Sackers. Customers realize that and they remember. They really do remember! Work hard, don't look upset or sad, because customers is watching. They will even randomly give a tip, even when I didn't serve them, they will tip, because it is either they like me, know how good I am, or just to help make up for those that doesn't tip.
I got a haircut today and it cost me 10 bux. I tipped the lady 2 bux.
people who work for tips always seem to appreciate and recognize good service.
what store do you work at? the last time i tried to tip a sacker i was told the store wouldn't allow them to be tipped. i told a manager on the way out what a mistake that was.
Thunder 05-21-2009, 02:25 PM people who work for tips always seem to appreciate and recognize good service.
what store do you work at? the last time i tried to tip a sacker i was told the store wouldn't allow them to be tipped. i told a manager on the way out what a mistake that was.
I work at Crest and the company allows all of us to receive tips, because Crest is really CHEAP when they pay their employees. I can't really get into specific details.
Sackers make the highest wages than all the other positions. Sackers even make more money than blue shirt managers/supervisors.
Most of us are at minimum hourly wages and most likely stay that way for a very long time. I have a friend, he works there for 3 years and still at the same minimum hourly wages. A friend, after one year of working there, asked for a raise, but was declined.
No one realise how tough it is to be working for Crest. A friend, she is a cashier and work there full time 40 hours a week and only take home around 390 bux every two weeks. It is really hard and it is sad, but it is what it takes to bring low prices on grocery to the people.
Sackers know to keep their position. Being promoted to manager will only bring an xtra 25 cents hourly. Switching to stocking or backroom will only bring an xtra few cents (not specifically sure). I will not accept a promotion, no matter what. I consider the Sacker position (so does everyone else) the highest wages.
It is the tips that is what making the Sackers earn so much more money, but being a Sacker isn't always fun. We deal with problem customers, but we endure it. We work in extreme weather. I've had a couple of near misses when people come speeding down.
What's really special about the Sackers is that we all work together, making sure we all get thru the day.
I really wish that more customers start tipping the Cashiers, because they deserve it.
OKCMallen 05-21-2009, 02:41 PM Reminds me of the time when someone ordered a margarita from the bar and when she received it she sent it back because it had salt. She of course never asked for one without salt. The bartender took a new glass poured salt in the bottom of the glass and filled it with the margarita. The lady was later asked how her margarita was and of course it was "wonderful".
Bartender should be reprimanded. Should could have been on a low-sodium diet with blood pressure problems. (Back to topic)
I really wish that more customers start tipping the Cashiers, because they deserve it.
Huh? So should I tip every cashier? I don't understand where it begins and ends. I was a carry-out in high school and received minimum wage. We weren't allowed to accept tips and I didn't, because it was my job to sack and carry groceries. I didn't expect tips, and I still did a great job.
I shop at Crest often, and have never been offered help with carrying out my groceries. I guess that's why I don't tip!
Huh? So should I tip every cashier? I don't understand where it begins and ends.
perhaps you missed the part about superior service.
Thunder 05-21-2009, 10:23 PM I shop at Crest often, and have never been offered help with carrying out my groceries. I guess that's why I don't tip!
You're most likely shopping at a big store. All of the big stores is where customers take out their grocery to the car and park the cart in a destinated area.
The small store have very limited parking, so we do not want carts out there. We're not happy with customers that take carts out there. It is the only store that we carry out the grocery.
Customers can carry out their own grocery, but they should return the cart, but most of them doesn't and it is a hazard risk.
If you want help at a big store, you can let a Sacker know, and you will get the help. Shopping at the small store brings you auto help.
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It's really not bad and hard to tip only $1. You have to understand that these people (cashiers) are struggling with finances. These people work to bring everyone lower prices. In return, it is only fair for them to be tipped a dollar from each customer.
So, yes, I think you should tip. I do.
I tipped a waitress at Don's Alley today and it was 3 bux.
We should be looking out for each other.
Thunder, to be fair, i don't agree that you should tip a person because they don't get paid very well. A person agrees to work for a certain wage, they aren't forced into slavery.
tipping should be reserved for recognition of cheerful, helpful, informative service.
anything else is just charity. i don't work for charity.
Thunder 05-21-2009, 10:34 PM perhaps you missed the part about superior service.
Exactly, too. Emy, you can still tip Sackers at a big store, even tho they don't bring out the grocery to the car for you.
How do you analyze how much you should tip? Watch how they sack.
Double sacking for heavier load.
Separate the cold and frozen food.
Separate the breads and eggs.
Separate the meats.
Organized from bottom to top.
Neatly arranged and not tossing.
Honor any requests made.
Heavier sacks with food that doesn't get smashed at bottom with ligher load at the top when placing them in the cart.
Friendly, conversational, and cleaniness. (Keep in mind, if someone doesn't respond, they can't hear.)
How fast they sack and the waiting time.
If you forget something, go get it and a Sacker will unload the grocery from the cart onto the register or ask for the forgotten item to be brought up.
Emy, there is a lot of superior services. You just need to keep ur eyes open to witness them.
Thunder 05-21-2009, 10:37 PM Thunder, to be fair, i don't agree that you should tip a person because they don't get paid very well. A person agrees to work for a certain wage, they aren't forced into slavery.
tipping should be reserved for recognition of cheerful, helpful, informative service.
anything else is just charity. i don't work for charity.
I can understand that and I agree with that, but the issue is that most people isn't aware that they can tip cashiers.
Most cashiers do light sacking, such as breads and eggs, which is always last, and if a Sacker didn't get to it, then a Cashier will while waiting on the customer to pay or the machine to process.
Oh GAWD the Smell! 05-22-2009, 02:46 AM Thunder...I only WISH people tipped sackers when I was doing it. I was technically a stocker, but if they got rushed, they'd call stockers to go up front. Best tip I EVER got was a dollar, and that was only once. I usually got nothing. I remember one time where I took THREE carts full of groceries to a lady's car for her, all at the same time. She stood there and watched me pack it into her trunk and backseat for 10 minutes, telling me exactly where to put things, then having me move them around a couple of times for good measure. She then thanked me for doing such a wonderful job and handed me a dime. lol...Really lady?
Not sure how this turned into a tipping thread...Tipping discussions can get as heated as political ones. People have strong opinions on it, that's for sure.
My wife is a sub-par tipper, and I'm a generous tipper (good service required for that though). We had a couple of fights over it, so we made a rule...Whenever I pay, she's not allowed to look at the bill and I'm not allowed to look when she pays. I've tipped $15 on a $18 breakfast just because she was breaking the rules and watching (had outstanding service too though). MAN, was that a mistake. She still brings it up over a year later.
ronronnie1 05-22-2009, 06:45 AM As a rule, I'll tip 15% to the waiter/waitress/server/whatever. If they got a stank attitude or if the service sucks, well then, they get nadda.
I think a tip jar is expecting a tip.
no, it just facilitates the transaction. it says, "a portion of my salary comes from tips". the customer chooses to tip or not.
plus, for multiple employees, it provides an easy way for them to divide the tips up evenly.
i don't see why so many people see a tip jar as a slap in the face. if you don't get good service - ignore the tip jar.
if you do get good service, recognize it.
no biggie.
CuatrodeMayo 05-23-2009, 09:55 AM Where is Bobby821?
Vines_&_Cattle 05-23-2009, 02:50 PM So everyone gets good service and good food from Braum's?
Must be just me. :(
Oh GAWD the Smell! 05-26-2009, 05:41 AM Personally, I wish that they all had bells like Jersey Mike's.
When I tip, they ring the bell, and everybody in the joint knows I'm a hoopy frood.
PennyQuilts 05-26-2009, 05:51 AM I tend to leave karma tips on small expenditures, like a single meal. Other than that, I tend to leave bout 20% which I know is ridiculous for some service but there you go. My kids were waitstaff and I have a hard time not seeing them when I see a waiter. Husband gives a $5.00 for most anything less than $20.00 but more than $10.00.
We recently were in North Carolina for the weekend and stopped at several convenience stores, motels, restaurants. OMG - we'd forgotten what nice service is like. The clerks in Northern Virginia - and this is not an exaggeration - don't make eye contact and rarely even speak to you in check out lines. When they do speak, they are surly. They are hideous. I make it a practice to report to the management when I even get one of them that smiles. No, I am not joking. Drives husband crazy that I have to track down a manager to tell them I appreciate the service. Many of the wait staff are better but nothing compared to further south and Oklahoma. One of the things we love about coming back home is the pleasant attitude from people at grocery stores, gas stations, etc.
Interesting, to me, but my kids don't tip if they don't get get service. Well, actually, they carefully count out the amount that is supposed to be shared with the busboy and leave that. They tell me that they aren't going to screw the busboy and the waiter will know exactly what they are doing if they do the math. But when they get good service, they tip well.
Oh GAWD the Smell! 05-26-2009, 05:57 AM I tend to leave karma tips on small expenditures, like a single meal. Other than that, I tend to leave bout 20% which I know is ridiculous for some service but there you go. My kids were waitstaff and I have a hard time not seeing them when I see a waiter. Husband gives a $5.00 for most anything less than $20.00 but more than $10.00.
The wife and I were talking about that this evening. It kills her to see me leave a HUGE tip at say...IHOP. Hey...That waitress did double the work that the Chili's waitress did the last time we ate there. Not her fault the meal was $14 for the both of us instead of $42. I'll go WAY over 20% in situations like that if I had great service.
Which is why she's not allowed to see me tip :tiphat:
PennyQuilts 05-26-2009, 06:09 AM The wife and I were talking about that this evening. It kills her to see me leave a HUGE tip at say...IHOP. Hey...That waitress did double the work that the Chili's waitress did the last time we ate there. Not her fault the meal was $14 for the both of us instead of $42. I'll go WAY over 20% in situations like that if I had great service.
Which is why she's not allowed to see me tip :tiphat:
Explain to her about karma tips. It will come back to her, eventually...
I've read that women are crappier tippers then men. I don't know if that is true but I try to avoid that stereotype. I figure that anyone working that hard probably needs it more than I do and I'll never miss an extra coupla bucks.
Thunder 05-26-2009, 11:11 AM I've read that women are crappier tippers then men. I don't know if that is true but I try to avoid that stereotype. I figure that anyone working that hard probably needs it more than I do and I'll never miss an extra coupla bucks.
I've never seen a survey or study done on that. To me, they both are about the same. The only group of people that generally is the worst, in my opinion, are those on food stamps, but not always the case.
I've heard a lot of complaints from other coworkers that people from group homes, maybe foster homes, where they get 5 carts full of grocery, never tip at all, not even a penny. Imagine the tough time loading those groceries in their vehicles.
I experienced this one time, these people brought a bunch of kids with them, and these kids choose what food they want. Even with this van they have, there wasn't really any room to load the groceries in the van with all the clutters. The limited space in the back, they told us to just pile them all up basically to the top of the van. I bet when they opened the back door, the whole pyramid comes crashing out.
To do the job for these people generally take about 30 minutes or more. I can understand the lost of revenue when the unlucky Sackers have to deal with them.
Oh GAWD the Smell! 05-26-2009, 11:21 AM Well in their defense Thunder...People on food stamps really aren't in a position to tip much.
onthestrip 05-26-2009, 11:49 AM I tend to leave karma tips on small expenditures, like a single meal. Other than that, I tend to leave bout 20% which I know is ridiculous for some service but there you go. My kids were waitstaff and I have a hard time not seeing them when I see a waiter. Husband gives a $5.00 for most anything less than $20.00 but more than $10.00.
I try to do the same. Say I stop somewhere for breakfast or lunch and I have a $12 tab. A 20% tip ($2.40) just doesnt seem enough for the work they did. I think there should be some minimum amount that should be left, something like $4. At least nothing lower than $3.
Jesseda 05-26-2009, 12:11 PM The thing i hate most is places that atomatically include the tip to your bill for a party of 4 or more, alfredos in moore did this or use to , I will not be going back, the wait staff sucks and the the order was wrong even after the second try, desert was frozen in the middle, which was suppose to be a hot dessert, and the staff never filled our drinks we had to get up and look for the soda machine, but yet we they got 15 percent from us
ddavidson8 05-26-2009, 02:34 PM Explain to her about karma tips. It will come back to her, eventually...
I've read that women are crappier tippers then men. I don't know if that is true but I try to avoid that stereotype. I figure that anyone working that hard probably needs it more than I do and I'll never miss an extra coupla bucks.
I don't remember them being bad tippers, but I definately remember groups of women (no men in the group) being a royal pain.
metro 05-26-2009, 03:19 PM The thing i hate most is places that atomatically include the tip to your bill for a party of 4 or more, alfredos in moore did this or use to , I will not be going back, the wait staff sucks and the the order was wrong even after the second try, desert was frozen in the middle, which was suppose to be a hot dessert, and the staff never filled our drinks we had to get up and look for the soda machine, but yet we they got 15 percent from us
Sounds like you won't be eating very many places then. This is common practice in most restaurants for a certain size party. And 18% is really considered average or the minimum these days.
jstanthrnme 05-26-2009, 04:54 PM I'm going to chime in here, and give my thoughts on tipping.
I worked at a popular restaurant through and shortly after college, and servers depend on tips. If I worked for 80 hours over 2 weeks (which can really burn you out..hours 70-80 you kind of give up on proper service..), my paycheck would often be $0 unless I did something rather than wait tables..
Most waiters live day to day because there are really only 5 good money making hours in a day, being the lunch and dinner rush. Say you have a 4 table section, and on a good night, it turns 3-4 times (thats 12-16 tables), and each table tips $5, thats $80 for that shift. Then factor in the tipout that goes to each busboy, bartender, or support staff, then subtract about $10-$15 that is divided among them. Tipouts are on average, 0.5% to 1% of TOTAL sales. So the more you sell, the more you tipout, but also, the more you make assuming the tipping percentages are honored..
As far as tipping, unless you speak with the manager, or server about the poor service you should tip 15%, for great service 20%, minumum. That is the standard. For the automatic gratuity, its typically considered an average tip and the menu will let you know the percentage. This is a must for waiters, If you get to work at 5 and have a party of 15 coming at 5:30, it will take up most of your shift, with little oppurtunity for other tables during the dinner rush. That $22 gratuity is a lot better than the $10 you could possibly have walked out with after your shift. If your not okay with this, then host the party yourself..
Ideally, I looked at each person, and thought if I could just get $2.50 from *each* of them, no matter how much they bought, I'd be okay with that. Parents should go with a little more, say $3, for each kid. Hey, you're not cleaning up those cherios, are you? Thats what I think. If you're in a nicer, restaurant, then give a little more.
What is absolutely the worst, is the whole rounding up thing. Sure it makes your bank balance, and bookeeping a little easier when you round up your ticket of $32.85 to $35, but when you do that, throw another buck or two onto the table...
OKCMallen 05-27-2009, 12:58 PM Sounds like you won't be eating very many places then. This is common practice in most restaurants for a certain size party. And 18% is really considered average or the minimum these days.
You are so contrary lately metro.
I don't know that I have ever seen a place put an automatic tip for a party of FOUR. Not even out of town...
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