I don't know where everyone lives but......news flash!!!....there is a "new W model" BRAUMS.... open at least a year or two on I 240 and Shields (home depot parking lot)....also one at NW 39th and Tulsa (west of portland) open at least 3 years!! Many more in towns around the state I've been too...I.E. Muskogee has one on 69 hwy south of town, open at least a few years also....there are surely more...these are just ones I am aware of...so they are certainly building in their home state. By the way, has anyone ever taken the BRAUMS TOUR of their factory SW of OKC by Tuttle? It is a great tour watching them make Ice cream.....I haven't been out there in SEVERAL YEARS though, so dont know if they STILL HAVE TOUR??? anyone know???.............IluvBraums
isn't it the "W" model that they recently built on nw 39th? the exterior is nice (but like I mentioned looks like a steakhouse). Didn't care for the inside at all. Now some of the remodels have been done well (are nice inside).

I live near the 17th & Classen Braum's and pass it almost every day. I don't think I've ever seen the parking lot even half full.

I'll be sorry to see those two apartment buildings go. They are excellent examples of... post-something... somethingism.

You just don't see design like that anymore.

I live near the 17th & Classen Braum's and pass it almost every day. I don't think I've ever seen the parking lot even half full.

I'll be sorry to see those two apartment buildings go. They are excellent examples of... post-something... somethingism.

You just don't see design like that anymore.

I agree about the apartment buildings. We should start a Facebook page. Organize a march down Classen. Something.

Post Modernism Crapola sound appropriate.

I agree about the apartment buildings. We should start a Facebook page. Organize a march down Classen. Something.

Maybe you should have bought them before Braum's did.

I'll be sorry to see those two apartment buildings go. They are excellent examples of... post-something... somethingism.

You just don't see design like that anymore.
Sometimes there is a valid reason for that......

Hey guys...I thought it was pretty clear about those dumpy apartments: we were being sarcastic. At least I was about Facebook and a "march down Classen." I didn't dream anybody would take me seriously. And I'm 99% certain BornHere was doing the same.

Sarcasm doesn't go over very clearly here (or on message boards in general for that matter)... Still, even I caught this one. Post-something somethingism. Clever.

Post-modernist anti-intellectualism I think is the term they were looking for. LOL

Doesn't matter now...demo'd!

For any of you in NE OKC who have been waiting, the newly remodeled Braum's at 63rd and Bryant will be open for business on Monday, Feb. 27.

It is the closest one to us and we sure have missed it!

Braum's Rules (viz-a-viz consistent quality of dairy products and pretty darn good other stuff).

I'm still "missing" the [yet-to-be constructed] Braum's, on the south side of Hefner Rd., just east of Penn. =)

(P.S.: As good as "Braum's" is . . .
"It" is only as good as they treat their employees.
You know . . . The happy ones . . . Who keep us coming back.)

This is another sad point, the C-level management at Braums are 100% aware of their poor customer service rating. It would cost money for them to make "enhancements" and they are ok with today's results.

Braum's has this example to make a difference: Loves vs. QT ... Loves shares the same "ugly store" issues, but is doing well at the bank. QT is hands-down a better managed corporation ( from the top , to the bottom). and the results are evident... Look at their employees when you walk into their store... Highly trained & motivated. They are buying-into what QT is trying to accomplish.

Bruam's and Loves share the same excuse, they say the "low skilled workforce" is the reason for their POOR performance, but QT is showing you how that is not true.

Not adding anything of value to this thread, but I love seeing Braum's commercials on tv. Pretty sure they haven't made a new one since 1991. Always gives me a good chuckle. They should probably revamp their advertising.

Not adding anything of value to this thread, but I love seeing Braum's commercials on tv. Pretty sure they haven't made a new one since 1991. Always gives me a good chuckle. They should probably revamp their advertising.

If they were doing it on purpose ( trying to have that 'ole time" feel) it would be better. They are still using this 1984 classic because it is paid for. ...they are going in the wrong direction and fast.

How is it that Freddy's is such a huge hit, when we have an ice cream & dairy store ( Local Corporation ) here? What will Braum's do?

Will they continue to do nothing? ..so far, that is all we have seen.

Now, Freddy's is placing their next store only a few miles from the Braum's plant...across the river in Mustang. This is a statement of a couple of issues, .... 1) Braum's is not considered competition anymore and the consumers desires their product more than Braum's. 2) Or Freddy's really understands their competition and they know Braum's will not do anything.

Either way, they are here in force. Freddy's / Steak & Shake / DQ in Moore??? ...the line is huge.

So, what will Braum's do?

Everyone checks out the new kid in school. Well, everyone but me I guess.

Only Freddie's I've gone to were steakhouses. The one in Sapulpa (though it's been years now), and the now long gone Freddie's, aka Taylor's Inn, outside Poteau.

Judging from the full parking lot and the line of cars in the drive thru at the Braum's on 19th in Moore.... I don't think they have much to worry about.

The long lines at the DQ were from people all over town. The people in Moore were still going to Braum's.

Judging from the full parking lot and the line of cars in the drive thru at the Braum's on 19th in Moore.... I don't think they have much to worry about.

The long lines at the DQ were from people all over town. The people in Moore were still going to Braum's.

That line is typically from very slow service. And the parking lot is full from the people in the drive-thru line having to get out and go in the store to retrieve their order.

DQ's line is from a greater demand.

That line is typically from very slow service. And the parking lot is full from the people in the drive-thru line having to get out and go in the store to retrieve their order.

and if people didn't want the product or if they couldn't tolerate the service, then then both the line and parking lot would be relatively empty. -M

and if people didn't want the product or if they couldn't tolerate the service, then then both the line and parking lot would be relatively empty. -M

That is the saddest part of all. The consumers have always desired their products. Now, the consumer(s) has several other options w/ better customer service / better facilities / ...and clean.

That is the saddest part of all. The consumers have always desired their products. Now, the consumer(s) has several other options w/ better customer service / better facilities / ...and clean.

Ok, you lost me on that one.... How is it sad that the consumer has always desired their product? I would think that would be a good thing.

Despite DQ being in the neighborhood. I have not noticed a slow down at that Braums.

IMO, Braums has a fabulous product but it's customer service/management varies from place to place.

Best breakfast burritos of any fast food. Their market is also just about all you need.

Ok, you lost me on that one.... How is it sad that the consumer has always desired their product? I would think that would be a good thing.Despite DQ being in the neighborhood. I have not noticed a slow down at that Braums.

From a business model POV, you want the customer to desire your product ( or need for your products ), but you don't want to loose them to others for better customer service / better facilities / Cleaner stores. And Braum's knows this. They are so conservative / cheap that they are not willing to make any changes or enhancements

From a business model POV, you want the customer to desire your product ( or need for your products ), but you don't want to loose them to others for better customer service / better facilities / Cleaner stores. And Braum's knows this. They are so conservative / cheap that they are not willing to make any changes or enhancements

But if the same desire for the product is still there.... What's the problem?

Seems like you are wanting them to fix something that's really not broke.... If their lines had gone away when the DQ opened. Then I could see the need to do something to fix that..... The lines didn't go away. The lines didn't go away when Freddie's opened on the other side of I-35 either.

Sure they could speed up their service, possibly with a loss of quality control, but then they still have the same demand with no line. Personally I would rather they take the time to cook my food or mix my shake properly than rush it out the window. And I've seen a lot of complaints on Urbanspoon about the quality control over at the DQ. I've only been there twice and had no issues but you really can't screw up a chocolate dipped cone.

Some of the Freddy's I have been to haven't seen any cleaner than Braums and their are a lot of products and services that they don't even offer that Braums does. Produce, milk, bread, meat, and tubs of ice cream is a huge part of Braums business. There is enough difference in their products and services for both businesses to thrive.

DQ only has one store in the area. We will see what the business competition from there is like a few years from now if they actually build more stores.

IMO, Braums has a fabulous product but it's customer service/management varies from place to place.

Best breakfast burritos of any fast food. Their market is also just about all you need.

Completely agree. If I ever move away it is going to be sad not having them around. I never buy milk from anyone else because it simply doesn't taste as good.

Some of the Freddy's I have been to haven't seen any cleaner than Braums and their are a lot of products and services that they don't even offer that Braums does. Produce, milk, bread, meat, and tubs of ice cream is a huge part of Braums business. There is enough difference in their products and services for both businesses to thrive.

DQ only has one store in the area. We will see what the business competition from there is like a few years from now if they actually build more stores.

Braum's quality control / customer services / clean store is one of the "poorest" in the region. There are so many locations across this state, where to customers went across the street to the competition and never came back.

But if the same desire for the product is still there.... What's the problem?

Seems like you are wanting them to fix something that's really not broke.... If their lines had gone away when the DQ opened. Then I could see the need to do something to fix that..... The lines didn't go away. The lines didn't go away when Freddie's opened on the other side of I-35 either.

Sure they could speed up their service, possibly with a loss of quality control, but then they still have the same demand with no line. Personally I would rather they take the time to cook my food or mix my shake properly than rush it out the window. And I've seen a lot of complaints on Urbanspoon about the quality control over at the DQ. I've only been there twice and had no issues but you really can't screw up a chocolate dipped cone.

Again, the lines at Braums are from customers experiencing "poor" customer service w/ incredibly long waits. The others are experiencing a greater demand for theirs. 2 distinct points of business.

People (previous customers) have been used to this low level of service from Braum's w/ issues. Now, Freddy's / Steak & Shake / DQ...they will move to the new guy for all the customer service issues / un-clean stores at Braum's. Yes, the demand is there, they just have a choice now.

You are comparing apples to oranges.

Nothing beats a Braum's shake. I can't find a shake anywhere that tastes as good. I will stand in line for a Braum's shake.

(I don't use drive thrus at all anymore)

I couldn't tell you the last time I have been to Freddy's. If I had to guess, probably around 2007 or so. Last time I was at Braum's was maybe a month ago. And I may go today now that we are talking about it.

You are comparing apples to oranges.

Nothing beats a Braum's shake. I can't find a shake anywhere that tastes as good. I will stand in line for a Braum's shake.

(I don't use drive thrus at all anymore)

I couldn't tell you the last time I have been to Freddy's. If I had to guess, probably around 2007 or so. Last time I was at Braum's was maybe a month ago. And I may go today now that we are talking about it.

Hey Catch22, while you were standing in line for that shake at Braum's, all the other customers that were standing behind you, went to Sonic / Freddy's / Steak & Shake ( the best shake, IMO) / and now to DQ. In the 80's, Braum's was great, but the problem is this, Braum's is Still stuck in the 80's. ...cheap cheap cheap.

I don't like the shake at any of those places.

I like getting a large Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough shake from Braums. Especially in the summer time. I don't care if the people behind me went to Sonic, Freddy's or Steak and Shake. I prefer my Braum's shake, no matter the wait time.

Hey Catch22, while you were standing in line for that shake at Braum's, all the other customers that were standing behind you, went to Sonic / Freddy's / Steak & Shake ( the best shake, IMO) / and now to DQ.

If this is true... Why are all the cars in Braum's drive-thru and parking lot still there?

It's starting to sound like you just have some kind of vendetta against Braum's when you are telling us the people have gone to these other places when I drive by there on a regular basis and see the same number of cars at the drive-thru and parking lot that I have always seen there.

I am no fan of custard as opposed to ice cream. I like Freddy's fries, though. I love the many flavors of Braums' ice cream, though.
OKVision4U, I think this is just another windmill you're tilting at and, while I applaud your tenacity and vigor, Braums need not quake.

If this is true... Why are all the cars in Braum's drive-thru and parking lot still there?

It's starting to sound like you just have some kind of vendetta against Braum's when you are telling us the people have gone to these other places when I drive by there on a regular basis and see the same number of cars at the drive-thru and parking lot that I have always seen there.

...because they ordered Chocolate Chip, and they are out? ...they ordered a cheese burger and they are out of cheese? ...the floor is so dirty / sticky, their shoes were glued to the floor. ...they went to wash their hands in the bathroom and there is no soap or towels? ...they ordered ice cream and they are out of cones? ...they ordered a hamburger and the cook went on break? ....they ordered fries w/ their burger and the Junior High School had a band concert, so all the staff had to leave to perform in the concert?

This is just a sample, but I think you know what I'm saying if you have ever ordered ANYTHING at Braum's. ...and while waiting in the drive thru, they were waiting in line so long, they ran out of gas!

I am no fan of custard as opposed to ice cream. I like Freddy's fries, though. I love the many flavors of Braums' ice cream, though.
OKVision4U, I think this is just another windmill you're tilting at and, while I applaud your tenacity and vigor, Braums need not quake.

Your are correct, Drew Braum has not / will not change a thing. This is their business plan. They will wait until the well runs dry and then shut their doors. Their business model is unique ( Fresh Market / Fully Integrated ) from the Farm to the store. Thus, they need a greater % of customers today to make the same margins they did in the 80's.

This is why they can't continue to lose market-share in their own back yard....but, they do everyday. ...and more Freddy's / DQ's on the way.

I don't like the shake at any of those places.

I like getting a large Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough shake from Braums. Especially in the summer time. I don't care if the people behind me went to Sonic, Freddy's or Steak and Shake. I prefer my Braum's shake, no matter the wait time.

I honestly can't stand Sonic's ice cream for example. Their shakes/soft serve just taste as if the ice cream is nothing but a snow cone with some milk mixed in with it. The texture is terrible and the taste isn't all that great. Braums is much better plus you can be pretty creative on what to use.

Freddy's isn't terrible, but I'm not going to go out of my way to go there. I'll stop at the Custard Factory here in East Norman before I'll go to Freddy's. My only gripe with Braums is their "large" soft serve is a small or medium at most other companies.

Never have had an issue with delays or customer service at the location we go to. The store and market area are clean and never gross like your typical fast food joint. I've had one problem with an order over the last 5 years and they took care of it and comped the entire ticket - which they had no need to go that far.

Is Rusty's still around in Norman? I worked there in summer of 2004. Fun job. Even funnier when customers attempted the "so thick you can turn it upside down" slogan.

Braum's isn't the least big concerned about Freddy's, as they are only partially overlapping competitiors....Braum's has their own market/grocery component, and the last time I checked, no one is standing in line to buy milk at Freddie's.

As someone else rightly noted, just another windmill du jour.

Braum's actually has been investing tons of money into their new Braum's Fresh Market stores and they are very nice. It will take time to renovate their stores, but Braum's is expanding and big time. Braum's is a great service and serves the best damn shake I've ever had. I have talked with Drew Braum and he is a great guy who is doing great things. He loves Oklahoma as much as you or me and wants to build the best quality stores he can. The thing is, you have apparently never owned and operated a business anywhere near the size of Braum's. It is not just as easy as saying, hey, here is $10 million, go renovate all the stores.

Braum's isn't the least big concerned about Freddy's, as they are only partially overlapping competitiors....Braum's has their own market/grocery component, and the last time I checked, no one is standing in line to buy milk at Freddie's.

As someone else rightly noted, just another windmill du jour.

SD, That overlapping % would be greater than 65% of their product offering! Maybe you haven't been inside a Braum's store before, maybe you are still waiting for your order at the drive thru... waiting, waiting, waiting.

SD, and Braum's has very good milk and worth the trip. But, Braums can't survive on JUST MILK. This is a regional company that has enjoyed ( lack of competition ) previously. Now, they have plenty. I'm not saying the ice cream doesn't taste good or the milk isn't good, or the eggs aren't good, but from a Business POV, they are in trouble. ...If they were a "public" company, the stock would be falling, and falling.

Is Rusty's still around in Norman? I worked there in summer of 2004. Fun job. Even funnier when customers attempted the "so thick you can turn it upside down" slogan.

There was drama with it. The owner and the wife got divorced. Wife took the Main Street (west Norman) location and the original owner took the Alameda (east Norman) location. West Norman location was shut down due to tax problems I think, or it might have been health code violations. The Alameda location now operates as the "Custard Factory" so they aren't associated with the old Rusty's name. Still my preferred place to go and they are always great.

I have mixed feelings about Braum's and have for a long time. I really like their breakfast, it's like going to Grandma's for a big Sunday brunch. I prefer their ice cream over any of the other places around because I don't care for soft serve that much & you just can't beat their rocky road or mint chocolate chip ;) (although I would take Marble Slab/Coldstone over Braum's if they were as convenient to me as Braum's is). Having said that, I still don't go to Braum's very often and it's been at least a year since I last had a burger from there. I think their burgers would be pretty good if it weren't for stale buns but what gets me most is the consistently rude employees and the filthy appearance of so many of them. It just turns my stomach when the person hands me my change & their hands are filthy, or when the person that hands me the food has such dirty hands they leave fingerprints on the cups. Ick. Soooooooo yeah. I'll go there for breakfast or ice cream, the staff is rude & dirty and I'll get grossed out, won't go there for ages then I'll think eh, I'll give them another shot - and so it goes, all over again.

Why does Braum's not have a location in Tuttle?

Braum's actually has been investing tons of money into their new Braum's Fresh Market stores and they are very nice. It will take time to renovate their stores, but Braum's is expanding and big time. Braum's is a great service and serves the best damn shake I've ever had. I have talked with Drew Braum and he is a great guy who is doing great things. He loves Oklahoma as much as you or me and wants to build the best quality stores he can. The thing is, you have apparently never owned and operated a business anywhere near the size of Braum's. It is not just as easy as saying, hey, here is $10 million, go renovate all the stores.

Panda, you are correct. It will take far more than $10M to get things in order. It's not just the stores, that is just part of the story. The Brand needs help. The C-execs should be released and replaced w/ the QT group. They know how to run a tight ship / efficient / profitable / and High Customer Service at the store level. ...they get it.

It would take several things to increase their market-share again. They may not know how, or they don't care to.

I have mixed feelings about Braum's and have for a long time. I really like their breakfast, it's like going to Grandma's for a big Sunday brunch. I prefer their ice cream over any of the other places around because I don't care for soft serve that much & you just can't beat their rocky road or mint chocolate chip ;) (although I would take Marble Slab/Coldstone over Braum's if they were as convenient to me as Braum's is). Having said that, I still don't go to Braum's very often and it's been at least a year since I last had a burger from there. I think their burgers would be pretty good if it weren't for stale buns but what gets me most is the consistently rude employees and the filthy appearance of so many of them. It just turns my stomach when the person hands me my change & their hands are filthy, or when the person that hands me the food has such dirty hands they leave fingerprints on the cups. Ick. Soooooooo yeah. I'll go there for breakfast or ice cream, the staff is rude & dirty and I'll get grossed out, won't go there for ages then I'll think eh, I'll give them another shot - and so it goes, all over again.

Bingo. You described most everyone's experience so very well. We try to be good / loyal customers, but they remind us why we don't want to come back.

I want them to succeed. This just needs to be the Wake UP Call They Need!!!!!! If they don't get it in order, then Hello Steak & Shake!

Bingo. You described most everyone's experience so very well. We try to be good / loyal customers, but they remind us why we don't want to come back.

I want them to succeed. This just needs to be the Wake UP Call They Need!!!!!! If they don't get it in order, then Hello Steak & Shake!

But they pay their employees like 10 bucks an hour these folks are the best of the best in fast food....or they should be based solely on pay alone.

Why does Braum's not have a location in Tuttle?

???? Anyone ????

???? Anyone ????

I had heard last summer that they were trying to buy the nw corner of hwy 37 and mustang rd. ( hwy 4 ) to build their first location in their hometown...... This in itself seems to be an odd business model.

But they pay their employees like 10 bucks an hour these folks are the best of the best in fast food....or they should be based solely on pay alone.

The problem isn't with dirty stores per se, because not all their stores are. The problem is with the inconsistency of their management. Braum's management has, for years, had a problem with uniform maintenance and oversight of their stores. When they go through remodeling phases, as they have recently with the Fresh Market concept, they do a much better job of eyeballing them through the first few years of their rebuild/remodel, but once that concept has taken flight, after a time, they lose touch again. Some stores get attention, some don't.

I think perhaps its at least in part a consequence of their own success. They just don't have the staff to adequately monitor all their retail locations, so they end up having to pick and choose which locations get the attention.

As for our interests, we visit the Braum's on SW 89th east of Penn very often, and it is a fairly recent FreshMarket remodel. It continues to be fairly well maintained, clean, and properly stocked. Actually, the location near SW 119th and Western is closer, and while it is acceptably maintained, on balance it isn't as well-kept as the 89th, and we just don't go there as often.

Having been on the ol' diet for a time, I've knocked down the burger consumption quite a bit, but Braum's has historically had one of the best bacon cheeseburgers around, and the one on Western was as good at them as any. Some of their discontinued items were outrageous, such as the ol' chipotle chicken sandwich, which was awesome IMHO. However, I can't speak to their quality control more recently - I've heard that they've taken to pre-cooking some of the burger patties and putting them in a warmer, or letting buns out of the packaging and sit on a prep table before sandwiches are built, giving them a chance to dry out and get stale. Again, however, I contend that's inconsistency in oversight of process management/control - not the absence of it. I just don't think you can be as successful as Braum's has been over the years without knowing what you're doing.

One thing I think could also be at issue is store staffing. I've been to Braum's - granted, a minority of occasions - when too few staffers were helping too many customers. You get one guy cooking sandwiches, taking orders, making fountain drinks, and maybe one other scooping ice cream, taking money, maybe even rushing to the grocery side to check out a customer. If store management is guided so tightly that any given store might really suffer but for the absence of one person calling in sick (for example), that's also a symptom of not managing the stores properly.

There's still no better milk in town, and Braum's guarantees they don't use any kind of growth hormones. That more than offsets a marginally messy store - especially since the milk goes from a truck to a fridge, not through their kitchen handlers. We don't go to Braum's 100% for milk anymore - but only because a Crest in our backyard makes the extra trip less convenient.

I don't know what the magic formula is for getting Braum's attention on the consistency of their stores. I think the strength of their fresh produce and grocery offerings differentiates themselves sufficiently such that they don't concern themselves with competition from Steak'n'Shake or Freddy's, because Braum's fancies themselves as a dairy store that happens to sell ice cream and burgers (and has expanded that store selection to include more general grocery items).

Part of Braum's business strategy has been to populate densely in areas where they can be considered neighborhood stores - and that's worked fairly well. If, however, more conventional grocery outlets (like Crest) become more pervasive in the areas where Braum's has its "Fresh Market" stores, then that might begin to affect their per-store performance in the way it has affected how frequently we visit Braums ourselves (as I noted earlier). Hiland milk isn't as good as Braum's, but as best we can tell is offers a similar (if not identical) hormone promise, and if I've got two carts of groceries to get home, chances are much lower that I'll be willing to drive three miles north or east just to get to Braum's.

Braum's is certainly in no danger of folding or going away, and yes, they have some consistency issues to deal with. They obviously have at least a decent idea how to make the business work, or they wouldn't have been around as long as they have been. Will be interesting to see how it all unfolds.

The Braums on Mustang Rd is one of the cleanest, friendliest, efficient fast food joints around.
The one on 39th & Penn on the other hand may have standing water around the registers. But you can buy crack in the parking lot so i guess it all evens out.

The Braums on Mustang Rd is one of the cleanest, friendliest, efficient fast food joints around.
The one on 39th & Penn on the other hand may have standing water around the registers. But you can buy crack in the parking lot so i guess it all evens out.

They are not consistent,that's for sure. They seem to have been going downhill since they lost one of our favorites (Ernest scared stupid guy) that did their commercials. Hey Vern,all that stuff,remember? Can't think of his name.

But really,Freddies Frozen Custard is more like Steak N Shake than Braums. Steak N Shake has some of the best steak burgers (but not really steak burgers if your from Ok that would be the Del Rancho type) around. Freddies is a close clone but not as good. Freddies frozen custard(the custard) is pretty good also. But when I think Freddies I think Steak N Shake but a notch below.

Now Braums and DQ always seemed to go hand in hand back in the day when there were DQs around. I still haven't fought the crowds at the new DQ but daughter went today and said the steak finger basket was really good.

What we really need around these parts are White Castle. You either love em or hate em. I happen to be one of the lovers.

They are not consistent,that's for sure. They seem to have been going downhill since they lost one of our favorites (Ernest scared stupid guy) that did their commercials. Hey Vern,all that stuff,remember? Can't think of his name.

Jim Varney. The guy passed away several years ago.



But really,Freddies Frozen Custard is more like Steak N Shake than Braums. Steak N Shake has some of the best steak burgers (but not really steak burgers if your from Ok that would be the Del Rancho type) around. Freddies is a close clone but not as good. Freddies frozen custard(the custard) is pretty good also. But when I think Freddies I think Steak N Shake but a notch below.

Now Braums and DQ always seemed to go hand in hand back in the day when there were DQs around. I still haven't fought the crowds at the new DQ but daughter went today and said the steak finger basket was really good.

Bingo. Steak-n-Shake fights Freddy's. I like S-n-S's burgers, but Freddy's custard is better IMHO. S-n-S's milkshakes are really good, but they're almost too sweet - like they actually add sugar or some sweetened thickener to the mix when they make them. Freddy's custard is a great if rare treat.

Jim Varney. The guy passed away several years ago.




Bingo. Steak-n-Shake fights Freddy's. I like S-n-S's burgers, but Freddy's custard is better IMHO. S-n-S's milkshakes are really good, but they're almost too sweet - like they actually add sugar or some sweetened thickener to the mix when they make them. Freddy's custard is a great if rare treat.

Where else in OKC can you go and order a Chocolate/Banana or a strawberry/banana or a vanilla/strawberry ect ect. shake? SNS does do a very good shake and you get it in real glass which IMO makes it taste better than a paper/plastic cup. IMO they have one of the best fast food burgers in town.Fries are the skinny shoestrings and they are not bad but could be better. Overall SnS is very underated in OKC IMO and there needs to be a few more around the city. I only know of Edmond,MWC and the one around Reno Mac area. And their chili is really good for a fast food joint BTW. Blows Braums chili away IMO. I always get the chili at SnS as a side.

I really miss old Jim Varney. Corny as hell but he did well for Braums and himself. Dang,making myself hungry,might have to hit up SnS and NO I don NOT work there or have anything to do with them even though this might sound like an advertisement for them.Then again a Papa Angelos peperoni petezer sounds pretty good.

They are not consistent,that's for sure. They seem to have been going downhill since they lost one of our favorites (Ernest scared stupid guy) that did their commercials. Hey Vern,all that stuff,remember? Can't think of his name.

But really,Freddies Frozen Custard is more like Steak N Shake than Braums. Steak N Shake has some of the best steak burgers (but not really steak burgers if your from Ok that would be the Del Rancho type) around. Freddies is a close clone but not as good. Freddies frozen custard(the custard) is pretty good also. But when I think Freddies I think Steak N Shake but a notch below.

Now Braums and DQ always seemed to go hand in hand back in the day when there were DQs around. I still haven't fought the crowds at the new DQ but daughter went today and said the steak finger basket was really good.Hey Vern, this suuuuure is a nice place you got here Vern- Vern-Vvvv-Vern Vern good Vern.

There was drama with it. The owner and the wife got divorced. Wife took the Main Street (west Norman) location and the original owner took the Alameda (east Norman) location. West Norman location was shut down due to tax problems I think, or it might have been health code violations. The Alameda location now operates as the "Custard Factory" so they aren't associated with the old Rusty's name. Still my preferred place to go and they are always great.

That's too bad. I loved their custard. I would sometimes "mess up" an order so I could take it home later. I worked at the west side one and it was in top shape when I was there. I can tell you first hand his wife was just a miserable person. Would make us run personal errands for her but had to clock out when we went. So hearing her store went to crap is no surprise. Rusty was a good guy and boss. Ok back to Braums.

Where else in OKC can you go and order a Chocolate/Banana or a strawberry/banana or a vanilla/strawberry ect ect. shake? SNS does do a very good shake and you get it in real glass which IMO makes it taste better than a paper/plastic cup. IMO they have one of the best fast food burgers in town.Fries are the skinny shoestrings and they are not bad but could be better. Overall SnS is very underated in OKC IMO and there needs to be a few more around the city. I only know of Edmond,MWC and the one around Reno Mac area. And their chili is really good for a fast food joint BTW. Blows Braums chili away IMO. I always get the chili at SnS as a side.


Yep. I always get the chili Mac when we hit up Steak N Shake. It is crazy good especially after a night of drinking

Any time I've gone in the Freddys in Yukon, they've had twice as many workers as they needed in there which is usually about 4 times as many employees you'll see in Braums. The prices are a little higher but I like that they provide a lot of jobs for the community. Although Braums dairy products can't be beat for freshness and quality IMO they could use a healthier menu in the grill area.

I wish we had a Culver's (http://www.culvers.com) , it would put Freddy's and Steak 'n Shake out of business.