Look on Youtube for videos about Fairlife. The employees abuse the animals. They take the calves away from the mothers at birth and put them in cages outside where the mothers can see them. They hit the animals, let them fall off trucks, etc. I'd never buy one of their products until proven this has stopped.

Just wait until this guy finds out about what happens with male chicks...

I buy Kalona dairy products. They are produced by small amish and menonite farms. They use a variety of dairy breeds of cows not just Holstein. If it was not for them I would be back milking a cow again. If way was not so out of sight I might just go over the edge and by another milk cow. Yes I have had one and yes I am very familier with the early morning milking. I did when I was still working as a firefighter. Up at 230 am. Out to barn at 3am to milk feed and milk cow. Feed horses at 4am then chickens before coming in the house at 5 am to get get ready for work, leave house at 6 am to be at statiion by 615 to 630 am and be ready for the shift. Heck I already did a days work by the time shift started at 7 am.

Just wait until this guy finds out about what happens with male chicks...

Or how they slaughter livestock.

6.20 for 2 dozen at costco

I've never been to a Costco. Will they sell me a half dozen for $1.49?

I buy Kalona dairy products. They are produced by small amish and menonite farms. They use a variety of dairy breeds of cows not just Holstein. If it was not for them I would be back milking a cow again. If way was not so out of sight I might just go over the edge and by another milk cow. Yes I have had one and yes I am very familier with the early morning milking. I did when I was still working as a firefighter. Up at 230 am. Out to barn at 3am to milk feed and milk cow. Feed horses at 4am then chickens before coming in the house at 5 am to get get ready for work, leave house at 6 am to be at statiion by 615 to 630 am and be ready for the shift. Heck I already did a days work by the time shift started at 7 am.

If my choices are $10 eggs or getting up at 3am to be a dairy farmer, I will choose the $20 eggs every time.

I've never been to a Costco. Will they sell me a half dozen for $1.49?

no they just do bulk 2 dozen is the smallest size ..

Do they have extra large or just large. Ive been buying Egglands Best extra large lately because they have been priced over a dollar less than Walmart brand extra large for 18. I always buy extra large instead of large eggs. EB were always priced higher than store brand before the eggpocalipse started. But for some reason they are cheaper now.

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Best and worse Braums in the metro: Council/Reno over by outlet mall ok for Lunch horrible most any other time.

Best and worse Braums in the metro: Council/Reno over by outlet mall ok for Lunch horrible most any other time.

The Braums on N. May, near Quail Creek is AWFUL for breakfast. The new'ish one at NW 150th & May is consistently excellent for breakfast.

I no longer do lunch or dinner at Braums. Their burgers used to be excellent but now they use too much lettuce (I ordered it without), WAY TOO MUCH mayo, and act like the special sauce is worth it's weight in gold and comes out of their paycheck. I always ordered no lettuce, no mayo and LOT of the special sauce and would always end up with a dry burger, with maybe a thimble full of sauce. They should take a lesson from Johnnies and their hickory sauce. If it's good, put plenty of it on there.

The Braums on N. May, near Quail Creek is AWFUL for breakfast. The new'ish one at NW 150th & May is consistently excellent for breakfast.

I no longer do lunch or dinner at Braums. Their burgers used to be excellent but now they use too much lettuce (I ordered it without), WAY TOO MUCH mayo, and act like the special sauce is worth it's weight in gold and comes out of their paycheck. I always ordered no lettuce, no mayo and LOT of the special sauce and would always end up with a dry burger, with maybe a thimble full of sauce. They should take a lesson from Johnnies and their hickory sauce. If it's good, put plenty of it on there.

this is the biggest issue with braums. there are some that are really really great and others that just aren't good at all, and very few in between... it's all the same food, so it has to come down to the store managers

I shop at Braum's weekly but the one on 39th and Penn is problematic. They have a huge homeless population. They are always hitting me up for money. I have nothing against them, just don't like being harassed.

I shop at Braum's weekly but the one on 39th and Penn is problematic. They have a huge homeless population. They are always hitting me up for money. I have nothing against them, just don't like being harassed.

I'm not sure why but their milkshakes are always the perfect consistency. I can't stand when they are so thick that you can't drink through the straw. I frequent this one for that reason but I usually just do the drive through because of the problem you mentioned. I have noticed many times they will have an off duty police officer posted up in the dining area.

I also have had good experiences with the location near 63rd/May.

I shop at Braum's weekly but the one on 39th and Penn is problematic. They have a huge homeless population. They are always hitting me up for money. I have nothing against them, just don't like being harassed.

This is the one I shop at the most, it is the closest to my home. The only problem I have had on a regular basis is their manager. Last time I went in to get a burger and just sit and eat, the manager was talking to someone that was clearly a love interest. Everyone was super busy and he just looked at me and said, we will be right with you. Did not even move from the spot he was at. Everyone else was busting there butts to make things and get it out. It took 10 minutes of standing before I left. I will only go through that drive thru now.

My favorite one has always been the one on N. MacArthur and Memorial. I have yet to have a bad experience there. I am not over there as often, but when I do find myself on that side of town I love going there.

The Braums on N. May, near Quail Creek is AWFUL for breakfast. The new'ish one at NW 150th & May is consistently excellent for breakfast.

I no longer do lunch or dinner at Braums. Their burgers used to be excellent but now they use too much lettuce (I ordered it without), WAY TOO MUCH mayo, and act like the special sauce is worth it's weight in gold and comes out of their paycheck. I always ordered no lettuce, no mayo and LOT of the special sauce and would always end up with a dry burger, with maybe a thimble full of sauce. They should take a lesson from Johnnies and their hickory sauce. If it's good, put plenty of it on there.
Sometimes I'm sure it's just the person preparing the order. We met a friend last night at the May store off of 122nd. There was enough special sauce that had dripped out of our burgers to make another one each.

I still don't see how Chick Fil A can have a system that works, is efficient, friendly with clean restaurants across the entire United States and Braum's can't get their act together across 4 states. If there is a Braum's that is clean, efficient, and friendly, I have not found it.

This is the one I shop at the most, it is the closest to my home. The only problem I have had on a regular basis is their manager. Last time I went in to get a burger and just sit and eat, the manager was talking to someone that was clearly a love interest. Everyone was super busy and he just looked at me and said, we will be right with you. Did not even move from the spot he was at. Everyone else was busting there butts to make things and get it out. It took 10 minutes of standing before I left. I will only go through that drive thru now.

My favorite one has always been the one on N. MacArthur and Memorial. I have yet to have a bad experience there. I am not over there as often, but when I do find myself on that side of town I love going there.

My sister-in-law worked at the one on Memorial & Macarthur and I guarantee if she made your food or drink, it was excellent. She loves to cook and takes great pride in food she cooks or prepares.

The new Braums at Waterloo and I 35 is about finished but cannot open until the end of the year. Why, well its a water supply issue. I guess they failed to do their homework when building a new store. The have a fire sprinkler system but the current Logan county Rural water district water supply cannot supply it so the cannot open until the build a their own water tower. I got this info from Braums.

The store on MacArthur and Memorial is disgusting. Went in a few weeks back and they had a guy running around in the back with jeans and a tanktop on, I'm assuming an employee that ran up to help? It's never clean and for what they charge for just about anything other than milk, it's just not worth the hassle.

I've been a frequent flyer at Memorial & Macarthur with my daughter for a few years now. As of late I just feel like they're just swamped with business esp in later evenings. The drive through has been insane waits last couple times we've been. Had to pull out after waiting about 20 mins the other night (ridiculous but when've you've already ordered and got a kid in the back..) went somewhere else nearby to get something and then drove back by 10 mins later and the car in front of us was still in line!

Imagine why a list of best and worst Braums would be a waste of a thread: 1 person thinks the Memorial and MacArthur Braums is great, and 3 or so posts later, someone says it's disgusting. Lol

The new Braums at Waterloo and I 35 is about finished but cannot open until the end of the year. Why, well its a water supply issue. I guess they failed to do their homework when building a new store. The have a fire sprinkler system but the current Logan county Rural water district water supply cannot supply it so the cannot open until the build a their own water tower. I got this info from Braums.

Wow!

Imagine why a list of best and worst Braums would be a waste of a thread: 1 person thinks the Memorial and MacArthur Braums is great, and 3 or so posts later, someone says it's disgusting. Lol

Braum's system of employee delegation has always seemed odd to me. Most fast food places keep the employee to one job during a shift. Braum's seems to have the same person that takes your order, scoop your fries, then serve your ice cream, and then check-out groceries. All of which have to be three separate transactions. For us, going to Braums "is what it is"....we don't have a Culvers, so we go in with low expectations that are usually met. I know the floor is going to be sticky, tables won't be cleared, the ketchup dispenser won't work, one of the self-serve soda's will be just carbonated water, and napkins will be everywhere on the stainless steel counter.

Culvers is coming. i talked with the guy working on opening a store in the okc area. He is not local but he does work for Culvers. He said the problem right now is that they have to build their distribution system for Oklahoma and that it will about 2 years.

Braum's system of employee delegation has always seemed odd to me. Most fast food places keep the employee to one job during a shift. Braum's seems to have the same person that takes your order, scoop your fries, then serve your ice cream, and then check-out groceries. All of which have to be three separate transactions. For us, going to Braums "is what it is"....we don't have a Culvers, so we go in with low expectations that are usually met. I know the floor is going to be sticky, tables won't be cleared, the ketchup dispenser won't work, one of the self-serve soda's will be just carbonated water, and napkins will be everywhere on the stainless steel counter.

This must be at a low volume store. The one nearest me seems to always have several in the fast food section, and one dedicated to groceries.

Culvers is coming. i talked with the guy working on opening a store in the okc area. He is not local but he does work for Culvers. He said the problem right now is that they have to build their distribution system for Oklahoma and that it will about 2 years.
Culver’s is pretty good. a Wienerschnitzel wouldn’t be a bad option to have either.

Culver’s is pretty good. a Wienerschnitzel wouldn’t be a bad option to have either.

I may not be remembering this correctly but wasn't there a wienerschnitzel in Del City in 29th street years ago I think 29th and Linda where the Papa Johns is now? Would have been in the 80s

I may not be remembering this correctly but wasn't there a wienerschnitzel in Del City in 29th street years ago I think 29th and Linda where the Papa Johns is now? Would have been in the 80s

Yes but not in the 80's... It was after 2000

Yes but not in the 80's... It was after 2000
Thanks. Was unsure of the years but didn't realize I was that far off. They didn't seem to last more than a few years (if that long) and was gone

Thanks. Was unsure of the years but didn't realize I was that far off. They didn't seem to last more than a few years (if that long) and was gone

I can get you older than that. There was a Der Weinerschnitzel on the south side of 39th, just west of Ann Arbor in the early 70s. Big A frame building, that I think is still there.

.. know the floor is going to be sticky, tables won't be cleared, the ketchup dispenser won't work, one of the self-serve soda's will be just carbonated water, and napkins will be everywhere on the stainless steel counter.

Wow, you just accept this? Food must be unbelievably better than I remember if you have to deal with all that just to get a burger meal. Seriously, is there absolutely no other place you can go to eat out that does at least the bare minimum of maintenance and cleanliness?

Wow, you just accept this? Food must be unbelievably better than I remember if you have to deal with all that just to get a burger meal. Seriously, is there absolutely no other place you can go to eat out that does at least the bare minimum of maintenance and cleanliness?

I see both of your points. I wouldn't accept it but there's also not a lot of choice.

People like to make fun of McD but 30 years ago and before, they had some good food. For fast food. Now it's expensive and tastes like cardboard.

Sonic used to be hit or miss depending on which one you pulled into. Now that they've been sold, it seems to be all miss.

Braum's? Decent shakes. Food not terrible but not good by any means.

Whata is marginally better.

Johnnies is good but those are becoming more difficult to find and they're quite a bit more expensive.

I haven't been to Freddie's in years but wasn't a fan last time I went.

Am I missing any place?

Wow, you just accept this? Food must be unbelievably better than I remember if you have to deal with all that just to get a burger meal. Seriously, is there absolutely no other place you can go to eat out that does at least the bare minimum of maintenance and cleanliness?

We pretty much just go for the ice cream so we don't care and I think to scottk's point a lot of other people are in the same boat. Kids don't care about any other details.

We pretty much just go for the ice cream so we don't care and I think to scottk's point a lot of other people are in the same boat. Kids don't care about any other details.

Oh, kids. Never had them, so don't ever think like that, nevermind, I guess...

Johnnies is good but those are becoming more difficult to find and they're quite a bit more expensive.
I like the way Johnnie’s put shredded cheese on the burger. For some reason, the texture just works.

Braum's is like three stores in one: An ice cream shop, a neighborhood market, and a burger restaurant. If they were just a restaurant, they probably wouldn't be around today, but it would also be easier to run so there's that...

Oh, kids. Never had them, so don't ever think like that, nevermind, I guess...

Yep, ice cream is the main selling point. The burgers are secondary. If there were more DQ's in Oklahoma Braum's would have to step up their game.

I like the way Johnnie’s put shredded cheese on the burger. For some reason, the texture just works.

Absotively!

Braum's is like three stores in one: An ice cream shop, a neighborhood market, and a burger restaurant. If they were just a restaurant, they probably wouldn't be around today, but it would also be easier to run so there's that...

Yeah, they should do one thing we'll but they choose to do three things half assed.

Yeah, they should do one thing we'll but they choose to do three things half assed.

Again, if they were just 1 thing, they wouldn't have survived. They had to be all 3. How many actual ice cream stores are there? Or small, mini markets like this?

Burger restaurant? Sure. But they usually make a consistently decent burger. No chain actually has a good burger. Just hard to make one in the short amount of time customers are willing to wait at a fast food restaurant.

Having seen their financials, they do well in all 3 aspects, but individually, they would fail miserably, by any metric. But it works that way for most places.

If Braums would just do what Johnnies does at their burger stores and that is have one full time person that stays in the dining area as soon as people get up and leave she is at the table cleaning it. She also keeps the floor swept up and will pick up your tray if you choose to take your food off it. . At the Johnnies we go to a lot on NW Highway she is always there in the dining area ready to swoop in. It's one reason I always leave a cash tip on the table because I doubt she makes much. I don't know how they do it at the new Johnnies with the bar because we never go there. But the burger Johnnies are always clean. I know it is adding to the payroll but even if Braums had to pay someone $10/hr just to do that it's not that much.

I like the way Johnnie’s put shredded cheese on the burger. For some reason, the texture just works.

Yes! Johnnies burger with shredded cheese, grilled onions and chili. With well done onion rings. One of my favorite meals ever. Anywhere.

If you don't have the Johnnies app you need to get it. Every Monday and Friday you get a reward for something free, There are 5 or 6 items they rotate through. Fries, O rings salad house made chips, $3 off a burger and a few more.

If you don't have the Johnnies app you need to get it. Every Monday and Friday you get a reward for something free, There are 5 or 6 items they rotate through. Fries, O rings salad house made chips, $3 off a burger and a few more.
And it's not buy something and get a free something. It's just simply free food.

If Braums would just do what Johnnies does at their burger stores and that is have one full time person that stays in the dining area as soon as people get up and leave she is at the table cleaning it. She also keeps the floor swept up and will pick up your tray if you choose to take your food off it. . At the Johnnies we go to a lot on NW Highway she is always there in the dining area ready to swoop in. It's one reason I always leave a cash tip on the table because I doubt she makes much. I don't know how they do it at the new Johnnies with the bar because we never go there. But the burger Johnnies are always clean. I know it is adding to the payroll but even if Braums had to pay someone $10/hr just to do that it's not that much.

Easier said than done. Hard enough hiring people to cook burgers, make shakes and take orders. The person cleaning tables would immediately get pulled back into doing one of the other duties.

Easier said than done. Hard enough hiring people to cook burgers, make shakes and take orders. The person cleaning tables would immediately get pulled back into doing one of the other duties.

Staffing these days is a problem. There's a handful of places we frequent. They all have about 10 to 20 percent of server staff that's "permanent" and turn over the rest every couple weeks.

Easier said than done. Hard enough hiring people to cook burgers, make shakes and take orders. The person cleaning tables would immediately get pulled back into doing one of the other duties.

That's just it. You don't see the cleaning lady at Johnnies anywhere but in the dining area waiting for people to get up and leave. Doesn't seem hard for Johnnies to do it. And if you look behind the counter at Johnnies they seem to always have way more people than you would need to run a restaurant like that. I'm amazed at the number of people they have behind the counter.

Having seen their financials, they do well in all 3 aspects, but individually, they would fail miserably, by any metric. But it works that way for most places.

For Oklahoma based companies, Braums and Sonic operate functionally very different from their regional rivals.

Sonic can operate in nearly any small town of just a few hundred people, as they have very little physical overhead with just drive in stalls, and Braums while operating in larger communities, caters to three different audiences with burgers, ice cream, and the perception that older people like the convenience of the very small layout grocery store.

As for why we all accept these places, they are nearly everywhere you turn in Oklahoma. Within 5 miles of my house I have 6 Sonics and 4 Braums, it's not so much a choice, it's a lack of options. Nearly all of these locations are the only two things on the corners for fast food.

Easier said than done. Hard enough hiring people to cook burgers, make shakes and take orders. The person cleaning tables would immediately get pulled back into doing one of the other duties.

Braums should be able to find someone to clean 12 tables. Would be a great job for a senior citizen or a a mentally challenged person (not that they are the same) trying to make a few extra bucks like a walmart greeter. Limited hours during the busy times like breakfast, lunch and dinner

Braums should be able to find someone to clean 12 tables. Would be a great job for a senior citizen or a a mentally challenged person (not that they are the same) trying to make a few extra bucks like a walmart greeter. Limited hours during the busy times like breakfast, lunch and dinner

I was trying to work through the logistics of your idea regarding table cleaners, when I began to wonder why Braum's is supposed to buss tables? Braum's is a fast food restaurant, like McDonald's, Whataburger, or Burger King. It is all paper and plastic, with only the serving tray being reusable. The customer has the obligation to clean up behind themselves.

Johnnie's uses glass, silverware, reusable plates and trays for their dining room service. They are a more full service operation.

I was trying to work through the logistics of your idea regarding table cleaners, when I began to wonder why Braum's is supposed to buss tables? Braum's is a fast food restaurant, like McDonald's, Whataburger, or Burger King. It is all paper and plastic, with only the serving tray being reusable. The customer has the obligation to clean up behind themselves.

Johnnie's uses glass, silverware, reusable plates and trays for their dining room service. They are a more full service operation.

So if a person doesn't clean up after themselves, the next guest is supposed to? What about wiping the table down....is the guest supposed to go get bleach water and a towel to wipe the table down? This is usually the biggest problem I see is nasty tables. Maybe we leave a mop or broom and dustpan out also in case they spill anything on the floor. I expect any public business to provide a clean environment. That is their obligation. Doesn't matter the business. Not sure why others would accept less much less justify it

Again, if they were just 1 thing, they wouldn't have survived. They had to be all 3. How many actual ice cream stores are there? Or small, mini markets like this?

Burger restaurant? Sure. But they usually make a consistently decent burger. No chain actually has a good burger. Just hard to make one in the short amount of time customers are willing to wait at a fast food restaurant.

Having seen their financials, they do well in all 3 aspects, but individually, they would fail miserably, by any metric. But it works that way for most places.

Given they only started doing the mini grocery stores in the last twenty-ish years, of the ~56 years they have been around, it seems hard to say they had to do all three. Granted with the amount they have expanded that clearly indicates it has been working well for them, but were already well established by that point.

So if a person doesn't clean up after themselves, the next guest is supposed to? What about wiping the table down....is the guest supposed to go get bleach water and a towel to wipe the table down? This is usually the biggest problem I see is nasty tables. Maybe we leave a mop or broom and dustpan out also in case they spill anything on the floor. I expect any public business to provide a clean environment. That is their obligation. Doesn't matter the business. Not sure why others would accept less much less justify it
Yes, they are. That how fast food places work. Are you sharing the same level of concern with Burger King and Carl’s Jr.?

Braums can't even hire a shake person for most of the day just to do shakes. When i worked 11-2:30 shift we had a person just doing shakes from 11-1:30 after that it was down to 4 people most of the time. They were either expo/shakes/other ice cream or counter/shakes What was crazy about it is we probably sold more shakes from 1:30-2:30 than we did for Lunch and never had a person just working shakes. Evening you would maybe a one shake person on ice cream person but at night tons of shakes and ice cream they could never keep up.

Staffing these days is a problem. There's a handful of places we frequent. They all have about 10 to 20 percent of server staff that's "permanent" and turn over the rest every couple weeks.

Maybe instead of throwing a new one up on every other corner, Braum's and other fast food chains could learn a thing or two from a place like Chick-Fil-A.

Braums has way more Oklahoma City locations than Chick-Fil-A, but every Chick-Fil-A is not only busy with customers, but also staffed EXTREMELY well. They must be doing something right to retain their staff. Maybe as a team member it helps knowing that you are always working with a full staff and have the resources available to do your job well, and receive decent pay for the industry. Also, as an employee, you are always guaranteed to never work more than 6 days in a row by design.

The same could be said of a place like OnCue or QT, they probably have an easier time getting employees to apply due to how they train, staff, and pay. As someone mentioned earlier, part of Buc-ee's success is that they pay so well for the convenience store industry, which in turn creates competition to hire the best of who applies, and also over-staffing your stores to ensure your employees create customer experiences which generate more revenue.

That's just it. You don't see the cleaning lady at Johnnies anywhere but in the dining area waiting for people to get up and leave. Doesn't seem hard for Johnnies to do it. And if you look behind the counter at Johnnies they seem to always have way more people than you would need to run a restaurant like that. I'm amazed at the number of people they have behind the counter.

I've seen a DQ where it was the franchise owner that was doing cleaning duty most days. But that was nearly 20 years ago.

So if a person doesn't clean up after themselves, the next guest is supposed to? What about wiping the table down....is the guest supposed to go get bleach water and a towel to wipe the table down? This is usually the biggest problem I see is nasty tables. Maybe we leave a mop or broom and dustpan out also in case they spill anything on the floor. I expect any public business to provide a clean environment. That is their obligation. Doesn't matter the business. Not sure why others would accept less much less justify it
If I can't find a clean table at a fast food joint I usually offer to clean one since I work in this industry currently anyways I try to make their job easier and usually they will offer to come out and clean it for me but sometimes they have given me a rag and I will clean it.

Chick-Fil-A usually has a person dedicated to the dining room that will do other things when they aren't busy

Chick-Fil-A usually has a person dedicated to the dining room that will do other things when they aren't busy

I believe Culver's does also. I know Grandy's used to but haven't been to one in years. Which goes back to my original statement that they having a clean restaurant is a standard they value and is important to them.

We went to Grandy's just last night (39th and MacArthur) and I don't think they are busy enough with inside diners to warrant a full time dining room cleaning person. We were the only ones dining inside when we got there and one other couple came in to the dining area while we were there. About 1/2 way through eating our meal one of the counter workers walked through the dining area and looked around and picked up the trays by the trash bins. I'll say the dining area and all the tables and booths looked pretty clean when we were deciding where to sit. We go there about once or twice a month in the evenings when we have coupons and it is usually clean.