There are 3 distinct categories of burger restaurants and restaurants in general:

Fast Food
Drive-thru, chain (McD's, Braum's, etc.)

Counter Service
Slower, no drive-thru (Patty Wagon, Tuckers, Garage, 5 Guys, Lip Smackers, Nic's etc.)

Full Service
Table service (Republic, Pub W, Nic's Diner, etc.)


Completely unfair to compare across those lines and usually prices are equally different.

I mean. I still love Braum's. It was one of the first places I went to when I moved back a couple of months ago. People on this board love to bitch and moan about everything. In reality, it's still a good place to get a burger and shake. I'll probably get lunch there today.

Braums is like a lot of chain stores... the quality of the preparation seems highly dependent on the quality of the manager of that particular store. I've had really great product and service at some Braums and some pretty bad burgers at others.

There are 3 distinct categories of burger restaurants and restaurants in general:

Fast Food
Drive-thru, chain (McD's, Braum's, etc.)

Counter Service
Slower, no drive-thru (Patty Wagon, Tuckers, Garage, 5 Guys, Lip Smackers, Nic's etc.)

Full Service
Table service (Republic, Pub W, Nic's Diner, etc.)


Completely unfair to compare across those lines and usually prices are equally different.

i feel like this should be pinned to the top of all burger threads ... lol

it is also why in n out (fast food) and 5 guys/shake shack (counter service) are not in the same category

Tuesday was a sad day. The Braum's location at 39th and Tulsa switched their chicken supplier. The "crispy" option on the club sandwich, and the tenders, were both obviously a new supplier. Press formed and questionable breading, a huge step down from the previous items. Sad sad day indeed.

Tuesday was a sad day. The Braum's location at 39th and Tulsa switched their chicken supplier. The "crispy" option on the club sandwich, and the tenders, were both obviously a new supplier. Press formed and questionable breading, a huge step down from the previous items. Sad sad day indeed.

Cheaping out - Burgers shrinking, new milkshake formulation, and now chicken. Always a great sign when a company starts making everything as cheap as possible for them and still charging their regular price to customers.

Cheaping out - Burgers shrinking, new milkshake formulation, and now chicken. Always a great sign when a company starts making everything as cheap as possible for them and still charging their regular price to customers.

Their Chicken Strips have gotten very small. I think Braums is ok but there are just better choices out there. Maybe not for ice cream but for burgers and chicken than yes actually much better choices

Cheaping out - Burgers shrinking, new milkshake formulation, and now chicken. Always a great sign when a company starts making everything as cheap as possible for them and still charging their regular price to customers.

Braums today is def. not the same quality as in the past when Vern or whatever his name was doing those commercials. They were really good back then on a consistent basis. Today it's a crap shoot and just never know what you might get.

I mean. I still love Braum's. It was one of the first places I went to when I moved back a couple of months ago. People on this board love to bitch and moan about everything. In reality, it's still a good place to get a burger and shake. I'll probably get lunch there today.

I wish I could in good conscience join you, and refrain from the bitching-and-moaning (really factual assessment, but we'll roll with this, it's catchy!). I hope you enjoy. I've moved on.

I suppose I'd still buy ice cream there, out of the grocery section mind, if I still ate that much of it. They have a habit of rotating flavors which is annoying. Circus Animal Cookie was a real winner, which they got rid of last I checked.

... People on this board love to bitch and moan about everything. ....

When People on this board don't agree with me I consider them bitching and moaning [Damn autocorrect. There, I fixed it for you]

I ate at the Reno Council location a couple of days ago. It was good, the place was clean and packed at lunchtime. My preference for fast food burger if I want it to go, Sonic. Sit down, Braums, except for the few locations that are cramped and dirty most of the time, like Classen. I avoid the rest of the fast food burger joints.

I wish I could in good conscience join you, and refrain from the bitching-and-moaning (really factual assessment, but we'll roll with this, it's catchy!). I hope you enjoy. I've moved on.

Ok.

When People on this board don't agree with me I consider them bitching and moaning [Damn autocorrect. There, I fixed it for you]

Thank you.

I had a Braum's burger last week - great.
I had a Braum's salad yesterday - terrible.
I was eating at a BURGER joint - how did I THINK that would turn out!?

Borden just declared bankruptcy following Dean Foods -- the largest milk-producer in the U.S.

Milk consumption continues to drop and related expenses keep going up. Wonder how this might affect Braum's.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/06/business/borden-dairy-bankruptcy/index.html


Despite all the marketing, there is growing evidence that milk doesn't do you much good as an adult, as humans are the only mammal to keep consuming after childhood. There are estimates that 65% of all adults have issues digesting lactose.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/18/upshot/got-milk-might-not-be-doing-you-much-good.html

While humans are the only mammal to consume milk post childhood, no other mammals enjoy honey cheerios, oreos, or chocolate cake. Lol

I love whole milk. I used to drink a gallon a day and I cut back because I was certain that wasn’t healthy or eventually would catch up with me. I still go through 2-3 gallons a week.

^

That's a ton of animal fat you are consuming.

You should get your cholesterol level checked.

I need a checkup in general. I haven’t been to the doctor in over a year. That is something I have been meaning to do. I am in OKC for a few weeks but when I return to LA my plan is to get health insurance and have a full screen checkup.

I've always found it interesting that we feed our children a product that in nature turns a 65 lb newborn calf into a 300 lb weanling calf in 90 days.

I would never buy milk apart from needing it for the occasional recipe, and that's usually just around the holidays.

A huge part of the Braum's business model is all the people that go there regularly to get fresh milk, then pick up other products.


Somewhere along the way, the government started helping dairy farmers promote milk and then it became a juggernaut. But if you think about what it is, the fact we consume it at all is very weird.

Orange juice (almost all fruit juice) is another government and industry marketing invention, and really it's just a big glass of sugar.

Braums has amazing milk. As an "avid" milk drinker, I had tasted many different kinds of milk and I can say Braums is hands down one of the best. I wish Braums was in California.

Braums has amazing milk. As an "avid" milk drinker, I had tasted many different kinds of milk and I can say Braums is hands down one of the best. I wish Braums was in California.

I'm no connoisseur (nor am I well traveled), but I've tasted a few that come close - at least as far as whole milk goes. In the Denver area, Longmont Dairy is quite good. In the Chicagoland and St Louis areas, Oberweis is really great too. Both also offer home delivery in glass bottles. But when it comes to low-fat and skim milks... I haven't yet found any that taste as good as Braum's. I think they're one of a very few dairies in the US that condenses their low-fat milk.

Braums has amazing milk. As an "avid" milk drinker, I had tasted many different kinds of milk and I can say Braums is hands down one of the best. I wish Braums was in California.Have you tried Marak's? Make a trip to Urban Agrarian and grab a bottle. It's my local go to when I'm making cheese.

I would never buy milk apart from needing it for the occasional recipe, and that's usually just around the holidays.

A huge part of the Braum's business model is all the people that go there regularly to get fresh milk, then pick up other products.


Somewhere along the way, the government started helping dairy farmers promote milk and then it became a juggernaut. But if you think about what it is, the fact we consume it at all is very weird.

Orange juice (almost all fruit juice) is another government and industry marketing invention, and really it's just a big glass of sugar.

Do you not eat cereal?

Do you not eat cereal?

Nope.

I'll have granola every once in a while but with Greek yogurt and fruit.

Orange juice (almost all fruit juice) is another government and industry marketing invention, and really it's just a big glass of sugar.

That's how I've always viewed juice. When my daughter was in infancy and toddlerhood, people would to tsk-tsk at me or look at me with astonishment when I told them I never even thought to give her juice.

It may or may not be a coincidence, but she's now 13, has never had a cavity and has always been very slim.

I would never buy milk apart from needing it for the occasional recipe, and that's usually just around the holidays.

A huge part of the Braum's business model is all the people that go there regularly to get fresh milk, then pick up other products.


Somewhere along the way, the government started helping dairy farmers promote milk and then it became a juggernaut. But if you think about what it is, the fact we consume it at all is very weird.

Orange juice (almost all fruit juice) is another government and industry marketing invention, and really it's just a big glass of sugar.

The overall demand for milk is decreasing as individual taste go to alternatives...and eat less cereal. The whole marketing campaign of "Milk, it does a body good" and "Got Milk?" really helped the demand in the late 80's and 90's. Milk was heavily pushed with school lunches too. I think that has now shifted to bottled water and other "infused" or "natural" beverages.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/01/06/borden-dairy-is-the-second-milk-seller-to-declare-bankruptcy-in-three-months/#3980f6ec2eb0

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/borden-dairy-company-joins-dean-foods-as-second-big-milk-producer-to-file-chapter-11-bankruptcy/

I would never buy milk apart from needing it for the occasional recipe, and that's usually just around the holidays.

A huge part of the Braum's business model is all the people that go there regularly to get fresh milk, then pick up other products.


Somewhere along the way, the government started helping dairy farmers promote milk and then it became a juggernaut. But if you think about what it is, the fact we consume it at all is very weird.

Orange juice (almost all fruit juice) is another government and industry marketing invention, and really it's just a big glass of sugar.

Orange juice is at least high in Vitamin C, but that being said I switched from that to diet green tea as my "guaranteed" source of Vitamin C each morning several months back and my stomach has been much better for it.

I rarely have milk in my fridge. I use it in some recipes, but I can't drink it. I'm in my early 30's, and it doesn't settle well on my stomach any longer if I drink more than 12 oz.

Okies love their Braums >150%-margin ice cream. And their last menu re-engineering - reducing portions while keeping prices the same or higher, has been a success. Not too worried about Braums.

Braum's was the one business I missed the most when I lived out of state.

And it is true, even though there is a movement against consuming milk, that probably much less of an issue where Braum's operates (OK and Texas).

I love whole milk. I used to drink a gallon a day and I cut back because I was certain that wasn’t healthy or eventually would catch up with me. I still go through 2-3 gallons a week.

Excuse me, what? You consume, by yourself. Two to three gallons of whole milk per week?! That is easily over 6000 calories in just milk. If that is true, I hope you are extremely active with exercise.

Braum's was the one business I missed the most when I lived out of state.

And it is true, even though there is a movement against consuming milk, that probably much less of an issue where Braum's operates (OK and Texas).

As well as stores in Kansas, SW MO and Arkansas. Not exactly the health-belt of America.

^

And lots of people in those regions who either don't care about scientific studies or don't believe them.

Braums milk is the best and I can drink chocolate milk all day long! But a cup of coffee tears my stomach up.

We never have milk in our frig. If the wife needs it for a recipe I go buy a small box at the c-store.

We eat cereal occasionally (Muesli from Sprouts - got hooked on it while on a cruise), but for that we use Almond milk. I find it tastes really good and it keeps much longer in the frig.

To me, Braum's only exists for the times when "Honey, can you run to the store and get me an onion and some salsa."

This is an interesting read. I'm curious if those of you who say you don't drink milk have lactose issues, cultual issues, health-caloric issues or just don't like it? I go through about a gallon a week of 1% but not much ice cream.

I don't like milk, never did, any kind, and will only have it in my cereal, and I use the almond coconut milk because of my stomach issues. Took me a while to get used to almond milk, but I love ice cream and half and half in my coffee

2% daily with a cup of cereal and in my morning coffee. 1/2 to 2/3 gallon a week. Sometimes Braums but mostly which ever one has the longest expiration date on the shelf at the grocery.

Just don't care for milk. To me its not a good drink choice with any food, except cereal, and in that case is not as good a vanilla almond milk. I'm fine with milk in a recipe, has no physical effect on me.

Multiple reasons. Calories not worth it. I used to be able to drink quite a bit of milk, but over the last 10 years, my body doesn't agree with my drinking as much. GI issues

Milk is okay but I don't really eat cereal and otherwise I'm not going to buy it just to drink.

I love ice cream though! And I really do like Braum's in general so I go quite a bit, like the droves of other Okies.

I love milk. I just don't like Braums milk. I buy Kalona organic, cream top. Its the closest to having your own cow. Yes I used to have my own Guernsey milk cow. Love the rich taste and cream bits. I do eat cereals most mornings. With that said, I do pop into Braums for breakfast.

Love milk. A glass in the morning with a cold slice of leftover pizza or a glass with a hershey bar or oreo cookies in the evening. My mom couldn't keep enough in the house growing up with four boys but my three kids could care less about milk and prefer water

Braums has amazing milk. As an "avid" milk drinker, I had tasted many different kinds of milk and I can say Braums is hands down one of the best. I wish Braums was in California.

I used to love Braums's Skim Milk, until I realized it was condensed and had 50% higher calories than normal Skim. It is really good, though.

I've never really like drinking straight milk by itself though, even when I was a kid. When I eat cereal, though, I drown it, let everything piece is floating with room at the bottom of the bowl. I do love chocolate milk. But I've pretty much given up cereal and I only do chocolate milk after a really crazy workout (like an all day hike). I will mix my protein powder in milk for breakfast a lot of the times, which is about the only way I drink it on a normal basis.

Cheaping out - Burgers shrinking, new milkshake formulation, and now chicken. Always a great sign when a company starts making everything as cheap as possible for them and still charging their regular price to customers.

How did the change the milkshake "formulation?" It is milk and ice cream, if you want it thick, tell them and they put in more ice cream, want it thin, tell them and they put in more milk.

I personally thought the chicken strips went crappy years ago, or at least small.


I suppose I'd still buy ice cream there, out of the grocery section mind, if I still ate that much of it. They have a habit of rotating flavors which is annoying. Circus Animal Cookie was a real winner, which they got rid of last I checked.

Animal Cookie was the best, no idea why they got rid of it, especially from the grocery side.


I've always found it interesting that we feed our children a product that in nature turns a 65 lb newborn calf into a 300 lb weanling calf in 90 days.

Until ~70 years ago, you were much more worried about your child starving than becoming obese. Being able to drink milk into adulthood was a massive evolutionary advantage for humans, especially Europeans where the required gene is almost universal.

Bears get pretty big pretty quick eating nuts, berries and fish, so I don't think looking at growth rates of other animals based on similar food type (but not quantities) is really a relevant scale. A Calf is drinking a lot of full fat raw milk.

How did the change the milkshake "formulation?" It is milk and ice cream, if you want it thick, tell them and they put in more ice cream, want it thin, tell them and they put in more milk....

I don't really know, haven't had one of them in decades, just going by what was posted way back in the thread, something about using powder now, it's not just milk and ice cream, and not allowing them to be made the old way, lots of unhappy people back when they changed.

I could be wrong but I think reason people like Braums milk is cause of the slightly more sugar in it. Just doing a quick search. Borden Fat Free Skim Milk 12g sugar 4% Carbs Braum's Skim Milk 18g sugar 6% carbs. Braums Milk has more sugar in it a least compared to Borden.

Couldn't tell you the last time I had a glass of milk, however, Braum's still serving ice cream for basically no money in 2020 is a gift.

I don't really know, haven't had one of them in decades, just going by what was posted way back in the thread, something about using powder now, it's not just milk and ice cream, and not allowing them to be made the old way, lots of unhappy people back when they changed.
Only powder I ever see them add is malt, if asked for. Otherwise, they seem to be making it same way for as long as I can recall. Milkshake formula isn’t complicated.... milk and ice cream....maybe malt.

Something about them changed, if only for a short time. I loved their milkshakes, and around the time they shrunk their burgers, they changed the milkshake recipe. I only know this because the few I ordered after the menu change were terrible.

However, I had one a few weeks ago and it was good again.

Only powder I ever see them add is malt, if asked for. Otherwise, they seem to be making it same way for as long as I can recall. Milkshake formula isn’t complicated.... milk and ice cream....maybe malt.

Maybe it wasn't powder, but they changed the formulation somehow. I personally don't care because I don't ever patronize Braum's. The change was discussed on this thread back a year or so ago, so you can search it if you want to really find out. barrettd has it right with the simultaneous burger size changes.

Lactose intolerance hits many of us beyond the 3rd decade.

Like many of you, use whole milk in recipes during the Thanksgiving to Valentine season. Otherwise, you'll find me in the soy milk (Silk) section of WinCos.

As for Braums, try their canned Braum's buttered biscuits in the dairy section--melts in your mouth if you don't over bake them.

As for Braums, try their canned Braum's buttered biscuits in the dairy section--melts in your mouth if you don't over bake them.

Totally off the wall tidbit here.... But apparently catfish love them too.... I was tossing some in the creek behind my cabin near the Arbuckles for the turtles to eat one day and the channel cat started coming up and eating them off the surface.

Lactose intolerance hits many of us beyond the 3rd decade.

Like many of you, use whole milk in recipes during the Thanksgiving to Valentine season. Otherwise, you'll find me in the soy milk (Silk) section of WinCos.

As for Braums, try their canned Braum's buttered biscuits in the dairy section--melts in your mouth if you don't over bake them.

I can’t read “soy milk” without hearing Lewis Black’s voice.

I don't really know, haven't had one of them in decades, just going by what was posted way back in the thread, something about using powder now, it's not just milk and ice cream, and not allowing them to be made the old way, lots of unhappy people back when they changed.

They switched to condensed low fat milk, and the rumors was that they were adding protein powder to supplement the nutritional value. I'm not sure if these rumors were ever confirmed though. The use of condensed milk was confirmed by Braum's.

Try the Lactaid brand, or any brand of milk that is for the lactose intolerant.

BTW Lactaid type milk lasts for several months in the fridge, and is usually good for at least a week or 2 past the expiration date.

BTW I now buy the Lactaid cottage cheese too.

I think Lactaid is a brand name??? There are other brands doing the same thing.

Try the Lactaid brand, or any brand of milk that is for the lactose intolerant.

BTW Lactaid type milk lasts for several months in the fridge, and is usually good for at least a week or 2 past the expiration date.

BTW I now buy the Lactaid cottage cheese too.

I think Lactaid is a brand name??? There are other brands doing the same thing.

Fairlife has lactose-free milk that is great. I used to drink a gallon or more a week, but as I got older (which sounds like I'm not the only one) I've tried to avoid lactose as much as possible... especially in that large of quantities.

Braum's biscuits are great.

I love milk and I'm in my 40s. When I was a teenager I'd go through at least a gallon of whole milk every two days. I don't drink near as much now, but I'll go through a half gallon a week no problem. I have to limit myself on their chocolate milk, because I'll drink a half gallon of that in two days.

Any time I have a cookie, or a brownie, or a peanut butter sandwich, I have to have a big glass of whole milk to go with it. Delicious.