Looks like we'll be on there before the end of the year. You notice a couple of pics back up, they have formed and poured the barrier wall between the highways just this week.

I'd bet we're on by the 24th.

And thanks for the comprehensive pics...........you can it's almost there.

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http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/hansnet/I40%20Crosstown%20OKC%20%20112011/i4023.jpg
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Wow, that center barrier is tall. I am guessing it is to block the light from headlights going into the turn so has practical reasons but it just looks a little excessive compared to the normal like two foot ones.

Looks like we'll be on there before the end of the year. You notice a couple of pics back up, they have formed and poured the barrier wall between the highways just this week.

I'd bet we're on by the 24th.

And thanks for the comprehensive pics...........you can it's almost there.

A lot of little things left to do. Only main things left to do are ramps on the westbound side. Maybe it will open the last week of December? Otherwise it will be the first week of January.

A lot of little things left to do. Only main things left to do are ramps on the westbound side. Maybe it will open the last week of December? Otherwise it will be the first week of January.

This could come down to the weather............

Thanks SSEiYah! Do you work on the project?

Wow, that center barrier is tall.

The center barrier is only extra tall on the east bound lane. It is normal height for the west bound lane. For some unknown reason, the two lanes are not on the same level. The west bound lane is 2 feet higher than the east bound.

The center barrier is only extra tall on the east bound lane. It is normal height for the west bound lane. For some unknown reason, the two lanes are not on the same level. The west bound lane is 2 feet higher than the east bound.

Ah, so it comes from where they banked the lanes to offset force in the curves to help 'naturally' stay in the lane through the turn.

Or to do with drainage. I-44 is the same way driving westbound between Lincoln & I-235

On the eastbound segment (near the I-44 junction), under the signs (the waterpipe design) I noticed what looks to be small LCD displays hanging above each lane? Any idea what they are for?

Probably going to be directional arrows. Just a guess though!

On the eastbound segment (near the I-44 junction), under the signs (the waterpipe design) I noticed what looks to be small LCD displays hanging above each lane? Any idea what they are for?

Lane ahead closed indicators, im guessing? Part of the ITS system.

Ah, so it comes from where they banked the lanes to offset force in the curves to help 'naturally' stay in the lane through the turn.

Just FYI, it's called Super-elevation. And even when the road is straight there is always a 2% cross slope for drainage.

Just FYI, it's called Super-elevation. And even when the road is straight there is always a 2% cross slope for drainage.

Thank you for verifying my post #791 ;-)

Thank you for verifying my post #791 ;-)

NP! I guess I completely skipped over your post. =\

As a side note - how much of rain run off from the new location of I-40 will run into the OK River....just wonderin.....

As a side note - how much of rain run off from the new location of I-40 will run into the OK River....just wonderin.....

100%. All of downtown drains into it.

Thanks SSEiYah! Do you work on the project?

I dont, but as part of my part time job I do a lot of driving in the area and pulled over on the bridges and snapped some pics the other day.

I dont, but as part of my part time job I do a lot of driving in the area and pulled over on the bridges and snapped some pics the other day.

That one pic, taken with the dashboard of your vehicle in the foreground, was taken while you were driving on the new alignment.

KOCO - "Part of I-40 Crosstown to Open Jan. 5: Westbound Lanes to Open 4 to 6 Weeks Later."

http://www.koco.com/news/30038384/detail.html

http://www.okladot.state.ok.us/newsmedia/press/2011/11-070_gift_of_a_century_to_be_opened_at_i-40_crosstown_ribbon_cutting.pdf

"Gift of the Century"
I wouldn't go that far. LOL

Looking forward to driving on it!

I'm ready to drive on this thing. I am tired of the old rickety cross town. I am wondering how long we will have to look at the old crosstown. I have heard different ideas. If nothing else they just need to pave it like they did on 15th between Meridian and MacArthur. A four lane road with a turn lane down the middle and bicycle lanes down each side. Leave room on both sides for future expansion or build it with a median down the middle and three lanes on each side with bicycle lanes.

...I am wondering how long we will have to look at the old crosstown...

According to post #705 on page 29, they will start demolition in February and by about Sep-Oct it will be down completely if everything goes as scheduled.

According to post #705 on page 29, they will start demolition in February and by about Sep-Oct it will be down completely if everything goes as scheduled.

I am a casual reader and poster. I don't have the time and patience to go back and read back 100 some odd postings.

I am a casual reader and poster. I don't have the time and patience to go back and read back 100 some odd postings.

LOL that's fine, I just remembered seeing it so I went back and found it, otherwise I wouldn't know the answer.

And the reason I stated the post and page was just to list where I found it and incase you wanted to see the post for yourself (or anyone else who missed it).

I am a casual reader and poster. I don't have the time and patience to go back and read back 100 some odd postings.

It's actually pretty easy, all you do is look at the page listing at the bottom of every page, click on "29" and then it will take you to that page where you only have to scroll through, hmmmm, let's see... 5 posts from the top (that didn't take very long!) and bingo, you have it. ;-)

To bad the old crosstown couldn't come down in a blaze of glory via a movie scene. Maybe like True Lies 2.

Lawdy JTF, at this point I'll be happy if they get it down at all. Given Project 180 I have this concern they'll demo out 60% of it and realize they are ought of money to do more until some undetermined date in the future, but issue a promise it will get done, eventually, which most will accept at face value.

I thought they were supposed to make a profit on the demolition from recycling some of the good parts and recycle the metal?

I thought they were supposed to make a profit on the demolition from recycling some of the good parts and recycle the metal?

I read a statement from ODOT where they were going to use the steel beams for county bridges, and is supposed to save a bucket load of money.

I read a statement from ODOT where they were going to use the steel beams for county bridges, and is supposed to save a bucket load of money.

The savings go to the County.. kind of. It just lets them repair more bridges than they normally would have. ODOT does this for all bridges that get replaced.(when the beams are still good)

It won't actually make any money for anyone though. It'll cost what it costs to demo the Crosstown.

This was done a few weeks ago this month.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raqnsi3JyW4

Why did the state screw up the I-40 project? OKC was working on the Core-to-Shore project where the core goes all the way up to the river. The new I-40 was to be located on the south side of the river. In the above video....its on the north side. When was this changed?

And what about the big white building that has the Oklahoma or state flag painting with the 100 years celebration? There is nothing on the other side facing the new I-40, so are there any plans to paint that side, too?

Thunder, just take a deep breath and relax, maybe take a puff of an E-Cig, an explanation will be here shortly.

Why did the state screw up the I-40 project? OKC was working on the Core-to-Shore project where the core goes all the way up to the river. The new I-40 was to be located on the south side of the river. In the above video....its on the north side. When was this changed?

And what about the big white building that has the Oklahoma or state flag painting with the 100 years celebration? There is nothing on the other side facing the new I-40, so are there any plans to paint that side, too?

Incorrect!

All of the concepts that I can recall showed it on the north side of the river. Not sure where you thought it would be on the south side. Also...you are just now noticing this? It's not like it exactly dropped out of the sky into this location....it's been under construction for quite a while.

Incorrect!

All of the concepts that I can recall showed it on the north side of the river. Not sure where you thought it would be on the south side. Also...you are just now noticing this? It's not like it exactly dropped out of the sky into this location....it's been under construction for quite a while.

Incorrect!

I specifically remember plans made for the relocation to be much more southern than current new location.

I want to know how and why it was changed. Of course, I knew it was being built wrong this whole time. Its just really upsetting, because the Core to Shore project is screwed. Now its Core to Forty project.

Lol - now we can have NoFo and SoFo as part of CoSho.

In fairness to Thunder I think one of the early alternates was to go south of the river but that route was never supported.

Lol - now we can have NoFo and SoFo as part of CoSho.

In fairness to Thunder I think one of the early alternates was to go south of the river but that route was never supported.

Do you know why it wasn't supported?

Do you know why it wasn't supported?

No I don't but it probably had to do with crossing the river twice and the downtown airpark still being active at the time.

Incorrect!

I specifically remember plans made for the relocation to be much more southern than current new location.

I want to know how and why it was changed. Of course, I knew it was being built wrong this whole time. Its just really upsetting, because the Core to Shore project is screwed. Now its Core to Forty project.

The most southern alternative had the relocated interstate going as far south as 14th. These plans were made in 1996: Core to Shore started in 2006, which is why you'll see the relocated highway in all the conceptual drawings.

Someone correct me if any of this is wrong, am doing it from memory...there were numerous alternate routes (think a total of 8 including doing nothing at all)...what was selected was "D"...there were a lot of criteria used in the analysis... cost, environmental impacts, impact on existing businesses/neighborhoods etc.

Mayor Humphreys stated that we couldn't afford the $1 million maintenance on the Crosstown then when "D" was chosen wanted to keep the Crosstown (that we couldn't afford to keep) as the "Alternate Business Route" (meaning truck traffic which causes the majority of wear and tear to the highways).

Part of the compromise with the State was the replacement Boulevard.

(meaning truck traffic which causes the majority of wear and tear to the highways).

Part of the compromise with the State was the replacement Boulevard.

1. I have long wished that semi trucks had their own separate lanes.

2. I thought that the boulevard was a federal requirement?

Now that most of the new I-40, which I believe the distance span is too short, is almost completed, is there any plans to finally bring out the frickin' ferris wheel and set up somewhere?

Someone correct me if any of this is wrong, am doing it from memory...there were numerous alternate routes (think a total of 8 including doing nothing at all)...what was selected was "D"...there were a lot of criteria used in the analysis... cost, environmental impacts, impact on existing businesses/neighborhoods etc.

Mayor Humphreys stated that we couldn't afford the $1 million maintenance on the Crosstown then when "D" was chosen wanted to keep the Crosstown (that we couldn't afford to keep) as the "Alternate Business Route" (meaning truck traffic which causes the majority of wear and tear to the highways).

Part of the compromise with the State was the replacement Boulevard.

I only remember seeing four, but that may depend on when I first heard of the project and if they did rounds to evaluate the paths then do more in depth study on the ones that had better characteristics at each stage.

Wait, wait, wait!! Thunder, are you saying that in 2008, when Maps3 was presented and voted on, you didn't think the new I-40 was smack dab in the middle of the park? Why, do you think the main reason they built the sky dance bridge? It was built to connect walkers to to the N. and South side of the park. Do you you remember people saying there is a north and south part of the central park? Well, the highway is what separates the park. And if you knew we are constructing the new I-40 where it is currently being built, then why did you not post your frustration for this earlier, like on your first post ever on this thread?

1. I have long wished that semi trucks had their own separate lanes.

2. I thought that the boulevard was a federal requirement?
Federal requirement in what way? the Feds required the pedestrian bridge over the relocated I-40 but that is a separate issue. I recall someone from the City mentioning that there was a Federal requirement when it came to the 6 lanes of the Boulevard in a presentation to Council one time. But I can't imagine any Federal regulation requiring that we put a Boulevard in place of the old crosstown??? Unless there is some official designation that makes the Boulevard an "Alternate Business Route" sort of thing and then you may be right. Steve might have more info on it as I think that is where I picked up the compromise that was reached...

Unless there is some official designation that makes the Boulevard an "Alternate Business Route" sort of thing and then you may be right. Steve might have more info on it as I think that is where I picked up the compromise that was reached...

That was along the line of what I thought I remember, because the boulevard will be signed as "I-40 Business". I thought it was something that funding was contingent upon, like the required pedestrian bridge. I may be way off though, and am just thinking of the required 6 lanes that we thought it might/may have to be.

Again... My time is more valuable to me. What he stated was enough for me. I trust most people on here. I don't expect anyone to quote their source. In the event the information is incorrect so be it. I am not going to file a federal case. We are not talking about a life and death issue here, just the progress of a highway project. We all know ODOT will get it finished when they get it finished.

It's actually pretty easy, all you do is look at the page listing at the bottom of every page, click on "29" and then it will take you to that page where you only have to scroll through, hmmmm, let's see... 5 posts from the top (that didn't take very long!) and bingo, you have it. ;-)

Again... My time is more valuable to me. Nothing personal towards anyone. What he stated was enough for me. I trust most people on here. I don't expect anyone to quote their source. In the event the information is incorrect so be it. I am not going to file a federal case. We are not talking about a life and death issue here, just the progress of a highway project. We all know ODOT will get it finished when they get it finished.

Again... My time is more valuable to me. Nothing personal towards anyone. What he stated was enough for me. I trust most people on here. I don't expect anyone to quote their source. In the event the information is incorrect so be it. I am not going to file a federal case. We are not talking about a life and death issue here, just the progress of a highway project. We all know ODOT will get it finished when they get it finished.

Lol, at your avatar...

Lol, at your avatar...

Haha...

We've got 'er down to 7 days and we'll be driving on this thing. Can't wait.

any new pictures of some stuff recently completed that was not done a couple weeks ago?

We've got 'er down to 7 days and we'll be driving on this thing. Can't wait.

They have the blockades and "Do not Enter" signs laying on the ground beside the current eastbound onramps.

With the new Boulevard, Willl they keep it elevated until just west of the railroad? or will they be building it where the railroad goes over top of the boulevard?

They will go under the railroad tracks.

With the new Boulevard, Willl they keep it elevated until just west of the railroad? or will they be building it where the railroad goes over top of the boulevard?

The current plan is to be on the ground around the movie theater and have a stoplight at Oklahoma Avenue.

any new pictures of some stuff recently completed that was not done a couple weeks ago?

I will try to get a few today from the walker/western bridges

They will go under the railroad tracks.

The tracks are elevated in this area so hopefully there won't be much of a depression required in the new road way so they can keep grade alignment with EKG. I wish they would urbanize the railroad viaduct while they are at it.

There are 4 lanes of track on top of these offices which allows the railraod viaduct to blend seemlessly with the urban environment around it. Unlike OKC that has an ugly 16 foot tall brutalist Berlin Wall style strucutre cutting downtown in half.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x378/KerryinJax/london1.jpg

The current plan is to be on the ground around the movie theater and have a stoplight at Oklahoma Avenue.

Is there any drawings of these plans available?