ljbab728
12-09-2011, 11:15 PM
I'm gonna keep my fingers crossed that we don't have any crossover head on collisions in that stretch until it's finished.
View Full Version : The New I-40 (Construction Updates) ljbab728 12-09-2011, 11:15 PM I'm gonna keep my fingers crossed that we don't have any crossover head on collisions in that stretch until it's finished. Thunder 12-09-2011, 11:17 PM I'm gonna keep my fingers crossed that we don't have any crossover head on collisions in that stretch until it's finished. They are going to do the switch at night when traffic is basically nonexistent. ljbab728 12-09-2011, 11:24 PM They are going to do the switch at night when traffic is basically nonexistent. You don't understand my point, Thunder. When they have traffic going in both directions as shown in the pics above, there is no traffic barrier between the East and Westbound traffic. We have to rely on drivers obeying the yellow lines. Snowman 12-10-2011, 12:03 AM I'm gonna keep my fingers crossed that we don't have any crossover head on collisions in that stretch until it's finished. You don't understand my point, Thunder. When they have traffic going in both directions as shown in the pics above, there is no traffic barrier between the East and Westbound traffic. We have to rely on drivers obeying the yellow lines. They almost certainly will put down temporary barriers between the yellow lines before they open it up to traffic. KayneMo 12-10-2011, 12:22 AM http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/i4012911b.jpg This sign doesn't make sense to me either. It would seem to me that it should be I-40 instead of I-44 since the sign also displays US 270, which is concurrent with the 40 through OKC. Snowman 12-10-2011, 12:34 AM http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/i4012911b.jpg This sign doesn't make sense to me either. It would seem to me that it should be I-40 instead of I-44 since the sign also displays US 270, which is concurrent with the 40 through OKC. Plus i44 west only has one lane branching off and it seems like their should be at least an i44 east exit lane indicator, even if they did not do an i40 west continuation indicators as well. KayneMo 12-10-2011, 12:45 AM So, is the sign an error?! Lol. Beats me... Snowman 12-10-2011, 12:50 AM So, is the sign an error?! Lol. Beats me... It seems like they grabbed the wrong interstate shield, 270 and i40 are the same road from Shawnee through El Reno. i44 would normally be paired with state highway 3 & Lawton. If they were indicating both should go their then signs for i40 & i44 would be more likely than i44 & 270 together. ljbab728 12-10-2011, 12:56 AM Plus i44 west only has one lane branching off and it seems like their should be at least an i44 east exit lane indicator, even if they did not do an i40 west continuation indicators as well. It's quite likely that will happen as you get closer to the intersection. It would probably be a little confusing at that point to put West and East on the same sign. kinggober 12-10-2011, 08:23 AM Plus it says Amarillo and I don't think 44 goes to Amarillo OKCisOK4me 12-10-2011, 10:04 AM The I-40 shield should be above the 270 shield, cause I guarantee you that the I-44 shield is saying, "be in the left lane to exit to I-44". Bellaboo 12-10-2011, 10:24 AM The I-40 shield should be above the 270 shield, cause I guarantee you that the I-44 shield is saying, "be in the left lane to exit to I-44". You will exit I-44 south bound as soon as they cross back over to the old I-40, so it is where it should be. OKCisOK4me 12-10-2011, 10:52 AM You will exit I-44 south bound as soon as they cross back over to the old I-40, so it is where it should be. Hence why I-44 is on the left side of the sign, lol Bellaboo 12-10-2011, 06:18 PM You know, I-40 is 4 lanes both direction just East of the I-44 interchange. I hope 3 lanes can handle it. By the way, I was by there today and they were asphalting the connection for the crossover. jn1780 12-11-2011, 12:48 PM Its less confusing if you read all the signs in order as your driving west on I-40. Your already on I-40 so it makes since that first sign would spell out next biggest city along the road your currently on. There is not enough room to spell out the destinations for I-44 so they just put the shield. The next set of signs actually break it down to I-44 westbound and eastbound. jn1780 12-11-2011, 01:46 PM You know, I-40 is 4 lanes both direction just East of the I-44 interchange. I hope 3 lanes can handle it. By the way, I was by there today and they were asphalting the connection for the crossover. Im sure it can't be any worse than it is now. The Crosstown bridge right now only has three through lanes. The area from the Dallas junction to the Crosstown bridge going westbound is only two lanes and of course the I-40 bridge going over I-44 is two lanes. Snowman 12-11-2011, 03:10 PM You will exit I-44 south bound as soon as they cross back over to the old I-40, so it is where it should be. Normally to provide clearer indication of what arrows go with which shields they would be separate boards for i44/state 3 west, i40/270 west and i44/state 3 east. Double Edge 12-11-2011, 04:40 PM Opps. Wrong thread. My bad. okcfollower 12-12-2011, 10:58 AM This is just a temporary sign correct? Don't worry about then MikeOKC 12-12-2011, 03:13 PM Any time-frame on when the new I-40 will be open to traffic? I read and hear all different things. jn1780 12-12-2011, 04:54 PM Any time-frame on when the new I-40 will be open to traffic? I read and hear all different things. Sometime between December 20 and the end of January. I think there is a high chance at least eastbound will open up by the end of December and westbound during the first half of January. Apparently there is going to be a temporary crossover on the east end because they already started placing the portable concrete barriers between what will be eastbound and westbound I-40 on that stretch of road they just completed from the canal bridge to the old I-40. Snowman 12-12-2011, 05:11 PM ... Apparently there is going to be a temporary crossover on the east end because they already started placing the portable concrete barriers between what will be eastbound and westbound I-40 on that stretch of road they just completed from the canal bridge to the old I-40. Since they have the end of the old crosstown bridge several meters above the needed grade where they stopped on the westbound lanes on the east side that makes sense. jn1780 12-12-2011, 05:22 PM Since they have the end of the old crosstown bridge several meters above the needed grade where they stopped on the westbound lanes on the east side that makes sense. There was a Gazett article that said westbound would transfer over 40 days after eastbound so I took that as them grading and building the permanet westbound lanes as soon as eastboud was transferred over. Apparently there was a misunderstanding or that article was wrong because its not going to take them 40 days to build that temporary crossover. Bellaboo 12-12-2011, 07:16 PM There was a Gazett article that said westbound would transfer over 40 days after eastbound so I took that as them grading and building the permanet westbound lanes as soon as eastboud was transferred over. Apparently there was a misunderstanding or that article was wrong because its not going to take them 40 days to build that temporary crossover. It may take them that long if they have to tear out some of the old bridge on the east end of this project to tie the westbound lanes in. OKCisOK4me 12-12-2011, 07:27 PM If you look at Google maps, the westbound traffic on the eastside of the project will merge with the new eastbound traffic. Ramp traffic from northbound 235 to westbound (new) I-40 will temporarily go under the old I-40 while they tear up the old I-40 that elevates toward the Crosstown bridge. Just to the south of that temp ramp they will construct the permanent ramp and then divert all main and ramp traffic to the new alignment. Seems confusing but that's how I see it being done. jn1780 12-12-2011, 07:34 PM It may take them that long if they have to tear out some of the old bridge on the east end of this project to tie the westbound lanes in. I don't think they would need to do that. You can see where there they left a gap in the barrier wall right before you cross under I-235. Should be far enough away from the crosstown bridge. Bellaboo 12-12-2011, 07:39 PM I don't think they would need to do that. You can see where there they left a gap in the barrier wall right before you cross under I-235. Should be far enough away from the crosstown. This could be, but it will take them a little bit of time to tie the crossovers together. I noticed this weekend that they did most of the crossover on the west end. They have east bound traffic where the crossover will be currently, that's why I think it could take a few weeks or maybe less to tie it in. To say the least, we'll get to see it done. OKCisOK4me 12-12-2011, 08:30 PM This could be, but it will take them a little bit of time to tie the crossovers together. I noticed this weekend that they did most of the crossover on the west end. They have east bound traffic where the crossover will be currently, that's why I think it could take a few weeks or maybe less to tie it in. To say the least, we'll get to see it done. Please rely on post #748 (mine, a few back) to get an idea of how it will go. As far as time, that's beyond me... jn1780 12-12-2011, 09:23 PM Please rely on post #748 (mine, a few back) to get an idea of how it will go. As far as time, that's beyond me... No doubt your right. My bet is that it will take them less than a week to build those mainline crossovers. They may not even bother ripping up the current eastbound temporary pavement. Just build a dirt incline leading to old westbound and asphalt over it. Similar to what was done to the temporary Lincoln route over new I-40. Same thing goes for the west end. OKCisOK4me 12-12-2011, 09:42 PM ^^I believe you'll be correct! Snowman 12-12-2011, 11:00 PM If you look at Google maps, the westbound traffic on the eastside of the project will merge with the new eastbound traffic. Ramp traffic from northbound 235 to westbound (new) I-40 will temporarily go under the old I-40 while they tear up the old I-40 that elevates toward the Crosstown bridge. Just to the south of that temp ramp they will construct the permanent ramp and then divert all main and ramp traffic to the new alignment. Seems confusing but that's how I see it being done. That would be a traffic nightmare and extend the time the bridge will be taken out, it is only two lanes (probably some shoulder) and would have some sharp angles even for a temporary alignment. OKCisOK4me 12-12-2011, 11:39 PM ^^well, we'll all find out soon enough! ljbab728 12-12-2011, 11:59 PM ^^well, we'll all find out soon enough! You're right, OKC. And I suspect that the planners have spent a little more time figuring out the best way to do this than we have. jn1780 12-13-2011, 06:08 AM Well, they already built the temporary I-235 southbound ramp and it heads in that direction. SSEiYah 12-13-2011, 10:48 AM What is going to go on with the May AVE Westbound bridge? right now there are 2 what I thought were referred to as "temporary bridges". Is a wider 5 lane bridge going to be constructed? Or are the existing 2 bridges going to be joined together in the middle as one? jn1780 12-13-2011, 10:57 AM What is going to go on with the May AVE Westbound bridge? right now there are 2 what I thought were referred to as "temporary bridges". Is a wider 5 lane bridge going to be constructed? Or are the existing 2 bridges going to be joined together in the middle as one? The half that westbound currently drives on is new and was built way back when the the project first got underway. The other half of this new bridge will be built when the bridge beside it(eastbound side) is demolished. jn1780 12-13-2011, 09:23 PM The Last wing is up being attached on the bridge. Here are some crappy cell phone shots: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7141/6506497573_6ca7ffd11c_b.jpg I wonder how long it will take them to build the median, clean, and paint. There was the December 20 date floating around which is Tuesday. Bellaboo 12-14-2011, 07:30 AM I wonder how long it will take them to build the median, clean, and paint. There was the December 20 date floating around which is Tuesday. When I saw that picture I thought the same thing.... Martin 12-14-2011, 08:27 AM i'd be shocked if the 20th hasn't been pushed back, especially since it's been raining over the past couple days. -M Just the facts 12-14-2011, 12:54 PM It looks like a giant mosquito crashed. It also gives you an idea how wide the freeway is - maybe too wide. OKCisOK4me 12-14-2011, 03:17 PM I wish Google Maps would get our 45 degree angle up and going. I'd like to see the difference between new overhead shots and new 45 degree shots on this stretch of road. There's plenty of difference between various portions of highway in Tulsa! mcca7596 12-14-2011, 03:39 PM I'm just waiting for that HD streetview! OKCisOK4me 12-14-2011, 03:46 PM Huh? mcca7596 12-14-2011, 03:51 PM The new streetview from Google Maps, the car was in the metro area and all around the state this summer. I'm 99% sure they will be in HD. OKCisOK4me 12-14-2011, 05:52 PM Oh yeah, I saw the car, but hadn't heard of HD views. ABryant 12-15-2011, 04:39 AM http://newsok.com/new-i-40-in-oklahoma-city-could-open-in-january/article/3632077 ftw? It says the new boulevard is included in MAPS 3. I know this is technically possible. Either this reporter has his head in his bumhole, or the Oklahoman is privy to information and not fully reporting the importance of this part of the story. jn1780 12-15-2011, 06:59 AM http://newsok.com/new-i-40-in-oklahoma-city-could-open-in-january/article/3632077 ftw? It says the new boulevard is included in MAPS 3. I know this is technically possible. Either this reporter has his head in his bumhole, or the Oklahoman is privy to information and not fully reporting the importance of this part of the story. Not directly, no. Obviously MAPS 3 would evolve around the new boulevard. Pete 12-15-2011, 09:41 AM From today's Oklahoman: The state Transportation Department stopped short of naming a target date Wednesday, but spokeswoman Brenda Perry said lanes in one or both directions of the new freeway should be open sometime in January. Read more: http://newsok.com/new-i-40-in-oklahoma-city-could-open-in-january/article/3632077#ixzz1gcOkf7IE Snowman 12-15-2011, 09:43 AM http://newsok.com/new-i-40-in-oklahoma-city-could-open-in-january/article/3632077 ftw? It says the new boulevard is included in MAPS 3. I know this is technically possible. Either this reporter has his head in his bumhole, or the Oklahoman is privy to information and not fully reporting the importance of this part of the story. Hard to say, their has been planes to use the alignment for the street car and is likely to have the park & cc impacted by it, to some extent it does not matter though which branding it may fall under the city does seem to have more interest in it's final design than most roads around town. SkyWestOKC 12-15-2011, 12:50 PM ODOT employee on the NewsOK comment section is saying MAPS3 money is being used for the SkyDance bridge as well as the new boulevard. He seriously might want to consider deleting his comments. I don't know if he is right or wrong, but spreading info around without it coming from the PR department is asking for trouble. Identifying yourself as an ODOT employee makes you a representative of the department, and it could come across as official info, even though it might not be official vetted info from the PR dept. jn1780 12-15-2011, 01:49 PM ODOT employee on the NewsOK comment section is saying MAPS3 money is being used for the SkyDance bridge as well as the new boulevard. He seriously might want to consider deleting his comments. I don't know if he is right or wrong, but spreading info around without it coming from the PR department is asking for trouble. Identifying yourself as an ODOT employee makes you a representative of the department, and it could come across as official info, even though it might not be official vetted info from the PR dept. Yeah, but it would be hard to prove he said that. I could call myself an ODOT employee. SkyWestOKC 12-15-2011, 01:54 PM Yeah, but it would be hard to prove he said that. I could call myself an ODOT employee. How many Ken's in Mustang work for ODOT on this particular project? lasomeday 12-15-2011, 01:59 PM http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/i4012911b.jpg Are they going to put up some barriers? This just does not look safe.... I just remember that kid from Yukon being killed by a runaway semi tire. Also, I thought it was supposed to be 10 lanes wide? This area has less lanes than the 4 lanes that is currently there. I hope this is temporary! SkyWestOKC 12-15-2011, 02:07 PM http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/i4012911b.jpg Are they going to put up some barriers? This just does not look safe.... I just remember that kid from Yukon being killed by a runaway semi tire. Also, I thought it was supposed to be 10 lanes wide? This area has less lanes than the 4 lanes that is currently there. I hope this is temporary! I do believe it is temporary. That is just one-half of the roadway. Pretty impressive. Room for 6 lanes on each side. jn1780 12-15-2011, 02:09 PM How many Ken's in Mustang work for ODOT on this particular project? Thats if he actually works on the crosstown project. He's full of it regardless. He says the completion date was always 2012 when ODOT's own documentation said 2010. However, he can say the date has aways been 2012 since construction started. Edit: Actually, I don't think thats true. I believe It was announce it would be 2012 right after the I-40 canal bridge construction got started, but that was a token project meant to allow the city to expand the canal to the river which they didn't get to do. http://www.okladot.state.ok.us/newsmedia/i40-okc/press/Crosstown-NR5-13.pdf http://www.okladot.state.ok.us/newsmedia/i40-okc/press/Benchmark_With_Crosstown_Property_Acquisition.pdf Then of course he says MAPS money is being used for the boulevard which is untrue unless your talking about anything on the bouelvard associated with light rail. OKCisOK4me 12-15-2011, 04:55 PM Are they going to put up some barriers? This just does not look safe.... I just remember that kid from Yukon being killed by a runaway semi tire. Also, I thought it was supposed to be 10 lanes wide? This area has less lanes than the 4 lanes that is currently there. I hope this is temporary! You've been spending too much time on the Boathouse Row thread, you environmentalist! Yes, this is temporary both east and west lanes all on the eastbound side. Do you not live in OKC? Currently, only the eastbound bridge has been built over Agnew Avenue because the alignment would put the westbound side right into current old alignment I-40 eastbound traffic--no can do! Once all traffic has been shifted, they can then finish out the tie-ins on both the west and east ends of the project, which should be done before years end 2012. SSEiYah 12-16-2011, 02:13 PM https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/387915_10150467495284456_608659455_8442436_9766426 31_n.jpg Note: billboard. Bellaboo 12-16-2011, 02:17 PM https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/387915_10150467495284456_608659455_8442436_9766426 31_n.jpg Note: billboard. I notice the sign on the highway shoulder just to the left of the billboard............someone some day will whack that thing. OKCisOK4me 12-16-2011, 02:22 PM Is it open?? SSEiYah 12-16-2011, 03:45 PM See my post from 11-20 to see differences: http://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=15390&p=485255#post485255 These are from today, most of these angles have been posted before, however you can never have too many pics. Some new ones of the east end. Starting from the Lincoln bridge, then Walker, Western and Penn. http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/hansnet/I40%20Crosstown%20OKC%20%20112011/i4014.jpg http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/hansnet/I40%20Crosstown%20OKC%20%20112011/i4015.jpg http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/hansnet/I40%20Crosstown%20OKC%20%20112011/i4016.jpg http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/hansnet/I40%20Crosstown%20OKC%20%20112011/i4017.jpg http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/hansnet/I40%20Crosstown%20OKC%20%20112011/i4018.jpg http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/hansnet/I40%20Crosstown%20OKC%20%20112011/i4019.jpg http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/hansnet/I40%20Crosstown%20OKC%20%20112011/i4020.jpg http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/hansnet/I40%20Crosstown%20OKC%20%20112011/i4021.jpg http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/hansnet/I40%20Crosstown%20OKC%20%20112011/i4022.jpg http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/hansnet/I40%20Crosstown%20OKC%20%20112011/i4023.jpg http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/hansnet/I40%20Crosstown%20OKC%20%20112011/i4024.jpg http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/hansnet/I40%20Crosstown%20OKC%20%20112011/i4025.jpg http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/hansnet/I40%20Crosstown%20OKC%20%20112011/i4026.jpg |