Redskin, my friend, you have no idea!

I spend a lot of money at Amazon.com, but I miss the smell of a brick and mortar store! I like to touch and read before I buy, plus you can't browse for unknown authors or literary treasures online.

Yes, I want a bookstore - either east or south OK County. I know that I'm not the only one!

I second the bookstore idea. Amazon is great, but sometimes I just need to browse, or I don't have enough time to order online. It is so irritating having to drive to NW Expressway and May to go to B&N or Borders. It is unfathomable to me that there is not a bookstore closer to this part of town. I would welcome ANY larger bookstore, Barnes and Noble, Borders, Books A Million, etc.

Sister Lauri,
talked with a guy today that know the developer. He will drop a dime on the developer for the book store.
If I hear anything I will let you know.:kicking:

I drove by on 15th and Midwest Blvd earlier today and found that the Uptown Plaza is useless. Developers spent millions to fix up on the west end, but those spaces remain empty, so money lost on that project. Hancock Fabric, Michaels, and Langston can relocate to I-40 Sooner Rd.

Any chance that any of the Del City officials reading this thread? It would be nice to feed them ideas, so they can start on offering businesses to relocate. Maybe some kind of tax deal and I think Del City have lower tax than MWC. I also think that Langston is in need of relocating to gain a better traffic for the store.


That's not accurate. The two front facing shops are empty, but if you go down Key Blvd, you'll see that all of the previous tenants are still there. Plus Phase II is actually more full than it was before with Locke moving from across the street. The Oklahoma Journal is the place that needs some tenants. I haven't been inside to see the layout, but I don't know if it's even done inside. And FYI, in Phase III, it will be a face lift to the current tenants like Phase II was....not as drastic as Phase I. You can email North Star and they'll fill you in with lots of info.

As far as Langston's, they're not going to move anywhere, they like cheap rent more than anything. They won't want to pay the rent of a new facility. Plus I don't really see any of the current tenants moving for the same reason. Plus if they're going to get a facelift to their fronts, and keep the cheaper rent, why move? They're all like Westlake, no matter where it is, the people that shop there will drive to it, so location doesnt matter. It's not as though Hancocks is going to get more business because it faces I-40. They'll just have higher rent...plus they just reworked the inside of that store not long ago.

Sister Lauri,
talked with a guy today that know the developer. He will drop a dime on the developer for the book store.
If I hear anything I will let you know.:kicking:


I'll dance at your next wedding!:dance:

What a great brother you are!

you know what the real problem is? look around at the Mid-Del, and youll see that there have been very few new apartment complexes erected in the last 20 or 30 yrs.

in fact, the only one that comes to mind thats new is the ones off of 10th and air depot on the southwest corner that was thrown up about 5 or 7 years ago.

so wheres the new apartment complexes being developed?...edmond, moore, norman....anywhere besides Mid-Del which strives for urban renewal and gentrification in many parts of its area.

Hey, bout the closure of the Eagle Point complex. I'm laughing and in shock that the city is failing to maintain the complex! Drive by, you'll see the lawn everywhere is SO FRICKIN TALL! The management did fine with the landscaping works, but with them being gone, the city is ultimately the cause of the end result eyesore.

mireaux, there's another complex on Sooner Rd, but I'm not sure if that's OKC, MWC, or DC. First Southern Baptist Church down the street still maintain their Del City status.

That's Kristie Manor....it's in Del City. I haven't figured out why they haven't finished boarding up that place either. They started the process around the same time the did Eagle Point. I say, if you're going to condem it, then bulldoze the place and stop wasting time. The owners are the ones that end up paying for the dozing and cleanup anyway so it's not like it will cost taxpayers anything. Right now, they are both dangerous eye sores.

yesterday's oklahoman said the apartments were owned by banks. i dont think the city owns them.

According to the papers, Del City is in a lawsuit with the owner of kristie and have been enjoined by the courts to stop the proceedings to condemn and tear down those nasty apts.
Yes, Eagle oints lokoks bad and that will make it easier when Del City does move to condemn the property.
I understand from a friend at City hall that the cost to tear down the apts range around $900,000 for each complex...............

Ya see, the management took great care maintaining the lawns at Eagle Point until Del City got high on drugs.

You sure have an interesting idea of how to take care of something. Didnt you see the news reports? Icicles of mold hanging down from ceilings, holes in roofs, walls and floors. It seems like the City didnt act fast enough. You keep saying how much you liked living there....I dont get it. Is the place you live now just as crappy?

Some issues with one or two buildings. Everyone knows how the news overblow everything in their reports. Most of the buildings on the complex was in great shape, mine included.

If you had a good unit in either of those places, you weren't the common man. I had a friend that lived at Kristie Manor for a short time. Little did they know what their family was getting in to there. It wasn't a "good" complex in any way. Even when it was newer, it still had a bad reputation. Go check out the records on how often amulances and cops are called out there. I have relatives in both areas and they had a very poor outlook on the place. And from what I understand, Kristie was nice compared to Eagle.

I can see the side of the arguement where you don't see the damage. I had a similar experience when i lived in Parkview in MWC (ugh). My neighbor's ceiling collapsed in her closet in a rainstorm just a few weeks before our building was scheduled to have a new roof put on. The new owners had been moving through the complex replacing all the roofs and fences. They didn't want to let them out of their lease because they were a few short weeks from having the whole thing worked out. And it did collapse during a BIG storm...not the average kind, and it's not as though they didn't repair it, patch the roof, and clean it all up. Her closet butted right up to mine but I never knew anything happened until I saw her on the channel 5 news. Does that mean the whole complex is bad and the management is out to run everyone into the ground? No...just bad circumstances...and they did end up letting them move. That place was pretty quiet, but it doesnt have a great track record either.

But back to Kristie and Eagle...At least Parkview cleaned up and treated to prevent mold from growing. These places never did anything even close. They let mold grow in the carpet, and the hanging kind....that takes a LOOOONG time to grow like that. It's a chronic problem. Not to mention the fact that they were causing structural damage to buildings making them unsafe. Just because the siding on the outside makes a place LOOK ok, doesn't mean that underneath, a pandora's box doesn't lurk.

If you had a good relationship there, that's great....but you have to realize that wasn't common to the complexes. No one is sad to see them go, but I'm sure we all agree that the city is moving far too slowly on leveling the structures.

Bomber,
ya missed the point that the City was stopped by a Judge in tearing down the Kristie manor,
That being said..............just keep an eye on it, according to my buddy its coming down shortly like before the end of summer..........

I don't care who does it, as long as someone tears them down.

they all three will be torn down.
Developers are looking at two of them for commercial use now.
As I understand the big draw back, besides the courts sticking their nose in is the actual cost to tear them down.
Nearly $900,000 for each location...................why...............asbes toses

That being said, I did notice on the Del City web page that planning :woowoo:had an agenda item to change the zoning for the two ghetto locations at Scott and I-40.........................haven't heard though what happened.............