One of the floors (not sure which) is being remodeled for offices.

Hope that means there will actually be glass and life in the upper levels, as there was a $250,000 building permit today:

http://www.oklahomacounty.org/assessor/searches/sketches/picfile/2735/R020027025001qA.jpg

It looks like something is already on the second floor. Are those the offices or would this be on a higher floor?

On a related note, I really don't understand why more of this doesn't happen. Bricktown is filled to the brim with opportunities like this, but it just hasn't caught on and I think it would work well to inject a little variety and life into the district's buildings outside the usual rushes.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/UnFrSaKn/Old%20Oklahoma%20City/Bricktown/brixsportslounge27eastsheridan.jpg

I think the second level of this building was actually part of Bricktown Brewery for a while.

I wonder if the name on the top of the building is relation to the Bradford family.

The second floor above Brix was formerly the expanded (and at one point very popular) billiards room of the Bricktown Brewery, abandoned when the Brewery sold and adjusted its footprint. I've spent many an evening playing pool and looking out of those windows.

I will say that while numerous undeveloped floors certainly and obviously exist in Bricktown, I believe most people including posters on this board are unaware just how many upper floors ARE occupied by functional (and in some cases high-end and outstanding) office space. I think the perception is that there has been zero upper floor development when in reality there has been a considerable amount.

I will say that while numerous undeveloped floors certainly and obviously exist in Bricktown, I believe most people including posters on this board are unaware just how many upper floors ARE occupied by functional (and in some cases high-end and outstanding) office space. I think the perception is that there has been zero upper floor development when in reality there has been a considerable amount.

Urbanized, I certainly didn't mean to imply that there has been little to no (re)development of upper floors in Bricktown, but there are several buildings that come to mind, particularly the building that houses Spaghetti Warehouse that always strike me as wonderful opportunities that continue to sit idle.

No question there are still lots of opportunities, in fact probably hundreds of thousands of square feet of opportunities. It's also fair to say that it is disappointing that some specific buildings (Spaghetti Warehouse is a good example) haven't yet been renovated. I'm just saying that I think it is a common perception that most if not all upper floors are undeveloped, and it just isn't the case. When I point out - even to people who are "in the know" about downtown - various buildings that are mostly or fully occupied, often after some really sexy renovations, the most common response is shock and amazement. "No upper floor redevelopment in Bricktown" has become a bit of an urban legend, and it is simply untrue.

Another Bricktown Renovation | OKC Central (http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/2012/10/27/another-bricktown-renovation/)

http://blog.newsok.com/okccentral/files/2012/10/brixnorth.jpg

North side.

Brix has really gone downhill. I was there on NYE and the waitstaff is awful and the place is poorly maintained. The bathroom had a giant hole in the wall covered by a poster held up by tacks. After 20 minutes of waiting for our beers I had to go get them from the bar myself. For an upscale bar they're really failing. The entire operation seems poorly run. It's disappointing because its the only real sports bar in Bricktown. Hopefully they get their act together.

Brix has really gone downhill. I was there on NYE and the waitstaff is awful and the place is poorly maintained. The bathroom had a giant hole in the wall covered by a poster held up by tacks. After 20 minutes of waiting for our beers I had to go get them from the bar myself. For an upscale bar they're really failing. The entire operation seems poorly run. It's disappointing because its the only real sports bar in Bricktown. Hopefully they get their act together.

We've had this exact experience twice now. The service is absolute crap.

Brix has really gone downhill..

i guess i'm curious as to when it it was uphill from where it is now? i've met up with friends there on 3 separate occasions over the past two years, and have had just as terrible of service as you have described... i just figured this is the way it always was since it still seems to get busy on weekends, and such. Was it actually good when it opened?

Ive always been disappointed in Brix. Food wasnt good, poor service and the layout sucks for sports watching. They have probably been able to get by for so long because they are the only decent sports bar in Bricktown. They should also thank Coach's for refusing to do any Audio/video or cosmetic upgrades because that has probably led most people to go to Brix to watch a game.

As a bit of a tangent, Coachs must not care about making more money because with a few thousand in TV and sound improvements they could get a ton more business. They have a great setting at the ballpark and Bricktown lacks good sports bars yet they seem to be content with their 15+year old equipment and small crowds. Their big screen behind the bar is laughable

Ive always been disappointed in Brix. Food wasnt good, poor service and the layout sucks for sports watching. They have probably been able to get by for so long because they are the only decent sports bar in Bricktown. They should also thank Coach's for refusing to do any Audio/video or cosmetic upgrades because that has probably led most people to go to Brix to watch a game.

As a bit of a tangent, Coachs must not care about making more money because with a few thousand in TV and sound improvements they could get a ton more business. They have a great setting at the ballpark and Bricktown lacks good sports bars yet they seem to be content with their 15+year old equipment and small crowds. Their big screen behind the bar is laughable

Someone recently told me that all of the Coach's are going to become S&B Burger Joints. Has anyone else heard this rumor? I thought it was laughable at best, but then another friend told me that the Coach's in Norman had a sign up saying they were going to become S&B.

Someone recently told me that all of the Coach's are going to become S&B Burger Joints. Has anyone else heard this rumor? I thought it was laughable at best, but then another friend told me that the Coach's in Norman had a sign up saying they were going to become S&B.

unless i just missed it... i was at Coach's in Norman last night, and i didn't see a sign... but again... i could have just missed it

Someone recently told me that all of the Coach's are going to become S&B Burger Joints. Has anyone else heard this rumor? I thought it was laughable at best, but then another friend told me that the Coach's in Norman had a sign up saying they were going to become S&B.

S&B and Coach's have a partnership, and S&B was advertising that they have an S&B burger menu at Coach's in Norman... not sure that it goes beyond that.

Not a Brix fan, but then, I'm not a fan of any establishment that has so many appearances in Groupon, L-social, etc., etc., etc. that's it is difficult to imagine there is anyone at all in the place who is paying full freight on anything but their bar tab. Seeing them in the discount offerings seems almost as constant at seeing that Khol's is having (yet another) sale.

Coach's in Norman is becoming S&B Burger.

Per Steve, Coach's at the ballpark is closing. Not shocked.

The space provides a great setting and with some much needed upgrades and a good operator this could become a great sports bar, or nice restaurant

Per Steve, Coach's at the ballpark is closing. Not shocked.

The space provides a great setting and with some much needed upgrades and a good operator this could become a great sports bar, or nice restaurant

Yeah, this Coach's was particularly crappy. It was really unfortunate because the ambience/setting of that location was pretty great and could be once again, with the right operator. OKC needs a better sports bar and it would be awesome if one went in here.

Yeah, this Coach's was particularly crappy. It was really unfortunate because the ambience/setting of that location was pretty great and could be once again, with the right operator. OKC needs a better sports bar and it would be awesome if one went in here.

Didn't they just get a good review from OKCBBQEA? or were there more than one Coach's in Bricktown?

Didn't they just get a good review from OKCBBQEA? or were there more than one Coach's in Bricktown?

The service was always much crappier than the food... only restaurant I've ever left $0.00 for a tip.

For me, the service and rudeness of employees was the main factor. I like Coach's food and never really had a problem with it, but the service at this restaurant was abysmal. Truly terrible every single visit.

pretty nice renovation of the "Brix" building on this months BUD meeting adding new windows for the entire north and south side of the building ... and removing the handicap ramp at the back and building a new ramp and new (nice) rear entrance

BCA-12-00019, at 27 E Sheridan Ave (Bricktown), by Sam Gresham Architects for Jeff Moore, to renovate the existing structure with new windows on the second, third, and fourth floors, removal of paint and a new entry storfront on the rear elevation, removal of a fire escape and walk-in cooler, a new masonry screen wall on the eastern property line, and a new set of stairs and access ramps with integrated landscape planters at the rear entry.

pretty nice renovation of the "Brix" building on this months BUD meeting adding new windows for the entire north and south side of the building ... and removing the handicap ramp at the back and building a new ramp and new (nice) rear entrance

BCA-12-00019, at 27 E Sheridan Ave (Bricktown), by Sam Gresham Architects for Jeff Moore, to renovate the existing structure with new windows on the second, third, and fourth floors, removal of paint and a new entry storfront on the rear elevation, removal of a fire escape and walk-in cooler, a new masonry screen wall on the eastern property line, and a new set of stairs and access ramps with integrated landscape planters at the rear entry.

Check out post #122 above by Will, which takes you to Steve's blog and shows renderings of the project you're referring to.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/UnFrSaKn/Downtown%20OKC/brixnorth.jpg

Building permit filed yesterday for this to convert existing Restaurant to Office. $80,000 remodel.

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Building permit filed yesterday for this to convert existing Restaurant to Office. $80,000 remodel.

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So Brix is going away? Not that I ever went but this leaves a hole in the sports bar market in bricktown. Hopefully something good will happen with the old Coach's.

It was terribly run. Not a surprise, but amazing that there is not even a single sports bar in Bricktown. RePUBlic should move into the Coach's spot. They'd rake in the cash...

It was terribly run. Not a surprise, but amazing that there is not even a single sports bar in Bricktown. RePUBlic should move into the Coach's spot. They'd rake in the cash...

Brix was horribly run with the worst service of any establishment in Bricktown. However, I am also amazed that we can't get a single decent sports bar in Bricktown. It's unbelievable. I agree though, if RePUBlic would open in the old Coach's, I'd be there all the time. It would be a wonderful addition to downtown.

That permit is not for the actual first floor restaraunt...

The floors above? yes.

That permit is not for the actual first floor restaraunt...

The floors above? yes.

It says existing use is Restaurant to be converted to Office.

Pretty sure those are generic details regarding the building, not the actual floors being reno'd.

3rd or 4th floor, maybe both.

Anonymous may be right. Wasn't this mentioned on Steve's OKCCentral blog back in October? I think it may just be a renovation to turn the upper floors into offices.

No matter, I still would love for a RePUBlic to open in the old Coach's space.

It was terribly run. Not a surprise, but amazing that there is not even a single sports bar in Bricktown. RePUBlic should move into the Coach's spot. They'd rake in the cash...

You don't think that KD's might fill ill that spot somewhat even if purposed as mainly a restaurant?

Don't think Brix is going anywhere.

Renovations are for the upper floors of the same building.

The floor immediately above Brix was formerly the Bricktown Brewery's enlarged billiards room, and adjacent to that (still a part of this complex) was a space that once (in the 90s) housed the Bricktown Brewery's golf simulator driving range and virtual reality games, later converted to banquet space. This was located on the second floor of Abueulo's, but accessed only through the brewery. All of this is served by a modern elevator and elevator lobby located in an interior hallway near the Brix kitchen entrance on the back of the building. So, if something is being done on the second floor, it would indeed be a conversion from restaurant use to the new use.

And by the way - though there are indeed a number of buildings with empty upper floors - MANY of the buildings in Bricktown have offices (most of them high-end and modern) located above the first floor. There is widespread ignorance of this fact, including on this board.

The floor immediately above Brix was formerly the Bricktown Brewery's enlarged billiards room, and adjacent to that (still a part of this complex) was a space that once (in the 90s) housed the Bricktown Brewery's golf simulator driving range and virtual reality games, later converted to banquet space. This was located on the second floor of Abueulo's, but accessed only through the brewery. All of this is served by a modern elevator and elevator lobby located in an interior hallway near the Brix kitchen entrance on the back of the building. So, if something is being done on the second floor, it would indeed be a conversion from restaurant use to the new use.


Makes sense, thank you for the explanation.

Watched Bedlam here and they didn't turn the heat on until right before they opened. It probably never got above 60 degrees inside. This is still a great space with a great projector and good deals, but it's so poorly run that it'll probably go out of business eventually even with everything working in their favor.

Watched Bedlam here and they didn't turn the heat on until right before they opened. It probably never got above 60 degrees inside. This is still a great space with a great projector and good deals, but it's so poorly run that it'll probably go out of business eventually even with everything working in their favor.We've been there twice with my daughter and son-in-law. Way less than impressed both times and I'm not that hard to impress. Service was not good. Food is barely a step above fast food. From my experience I don't see how they've stayed open this long.

Ive thought it was pretty awful the first time I went right after it opened. Went one more time about a year after that and was still unimpressed. I guess they have made it as long as they have because its the only real sports bar in bricktown. Im really surprised to see it last as long as it has.

Echoing others' sentiments, I'm amazed that this place is still in business. The three worst restaurant experiences I've ever had have all come here. It's total crap.

We've been there twice with my daughter and son-in-law. Way less than impressed both times and I'm not that hard to impress. Service was not good. Food is barely a step above fast food. From my experience I don't see how they've stayed open this long.

Met Betts there for a group outting of her forum posters to an NBA game once and ate there before we went to the game. That was when the Thunder were here their first year. Never been back since.

Stepped in before the Thunder game last night and they were literally selling art off the walls as well as TVs and bar stuff. Talked to a guy and he said they will close after NY Eve and that a Henry Hudson's will be moving into their location. He mentioned that the rent was incredibly high and that they just couldn't afford it anymore. On NY Eve they are selling off all the liquor they have for something like $3.00 a shot until its all gone.

I've long wondered if Hooters could make it work (which BTW, isn't that a "true" sports bar?) in Bricktown, why couldn't Hudson's... not that I wouldn't prefer something with more local flair...

Well, Hudson's IS locally-owned, and elsewhere in the city frequented almost exclusively by locals. So maybe you mean not a chain? The way some folks use "local" confuses me. Is Tapwerks local? Or does it have local flair? Or is Skinny Slim's more local than Tapwerks? What about Louie's? Or S&B? or McNellie's? Fassler Hall? Dust Bowl?

If this change is true this makes a certain amount of sense, because this space is physically connected to the Bricktown Brewery, which is another Emerging Brands property.

I've long wondered if Hooters could make it work (which BTW, isn't that a "true" sports bar?) in Bricktown, why couldn't Hudson's... not that I wouldn't prefer something with more local flair...
I go in Hooters Bricktown once in a while when I have to wait for my wife to get off work. I'm often the only one there. If it weren't a chain it would have closed long ago. The servers say even Thunder home games don't do well for them any more.

Stepped in before the Thunder game last night and they were literally selling art off the walls as well as TVs and bar stuff. Talked to a guy and he said they will close after NY Eve and that a Henry Hudson's will be moving into their location. He mentioned that the rent was incredibly high and that they just couldn't afford it anymore. On NY Eve they are selling off all the liquor they have for something like $3.00 a shot until its all gone.


Did this seem legit or just rumor?

Stepped in before the Thunder game last night and they were literally selling art off the walls as well as TVs and bar stuff. Talked to a guy and he said they will close after NY Eve and that a Henry Hudson's will be moving into their location. He mentioned that the rent was incredibly high and that they just couldn't afford it anymore. On NY Eve they are selling off all the liquor they have for something like $3.00 a shot until its all gone.

I wonder how certain this is to happen and if this location will be non smoking which would be a first for a Henry Hudson's. If this is to be true, I just might spend a lil more time downtown! Henry Hudson's, for me, is like Cheers...

Apologies for my aparent blind "localism". I actually agree with you that some places such as Skinny's do a MUCH better job at "being local" (e.g. contributing to the local fabric that defines a neighborhood) than other nominally local places. I also agree there are chains (both local and non-local) that are a valuable contribution (due to their brand loyalty/following -- by locals) to an area (e.g. Walgreens -- who wouldn't prefer a Lassiter style local pharmacy, but let's face it you simply can't have a Lassiter on every square mile, whereas a WG you can), and Hudsons may well prove to be such a place for Bricktown, or at least I hope. Certainly, based on past experience with Hudsons, they will be better than Brix.


Well, Hudson's IS locally-owned, and elsewhere in the city frequented almost exclusively by locals. So maybe you mean not a chain? The way some folks use "local" confuses me. Is Tapwerks local? Or does it have local flair? Or is Skinny Slim's more local than Tapwerks? What about Louie's? Or S&B? or McNellie's? Fassler Hall? Dust Bowl?

If this change is true this makes a certain amount of sense, because this space is physically connected to the Bricktown Brewery, which is another Emerging Brands property.

Met Betts there for a group outting of her forum posters to an NBA game once and ate there before we went to the game. That was when the Thunder were here their first year. Never been back since.

I went back a couple of other times, but the food at places like the Deep Deuce Grill was so much better that the only reason to go there was the comfy seating. You have to serve a quality product to stay in business.

Hey, I appreciate localism too. When I owned my store we were literally one of the first KeepItLocalOK members, and I have been a card-carrying member since inception. Other than occasional fast food, I almost never dine somewhere that's not locally-owned. My only Christmas shopping to date has been at KILOK member establishments (though I am about to be forced to go off the rails on that one).

I have taken to describing people like that (or even more pronounced) as über local. There are plenty of people from metro OKC who DON'T fit that description, who are happy to dine at Chili's and Red Lobster. But are they any less local? I think that is where the confusion sets in. I often hear Bricktown described as "for tourists" or "visitors", yet will promise you from experience that - other than three months during the summer - Bricktown's users are mainly from the metro. There are actually plenty of people who are the card-carrying KILOK types, but the majority are probably unaware such a thing even exists.

My only gripe is that certain establishments or areas get (I believe) unfairly tagged as "chain" or "non-local" while others get a pass. I love McNellie's (I have a mug there), but if you're really serious about OKC-only you'd go to RePUBlic instead (awesome!). If you're serious about a place not being part of a larger restaurant group, you'd go to TapWerks. Skinny Slim's (one of my favorite places in town) probably wouldn't even qualify for KILOK membership (they're a Missouri-based chain). You want a one-off hamburger place? It's not S&B, the Garage, Tucker's (sorry Tuck), or even Nick's Grill, all of which have multiple locations. It's Bricktown Burgers (which most people don't even know exists). That said, S&B and Tucker's are my favorites of the group.

Sorry for the rant, but I just needed to get it off of my chest. I think sometimes thus stuff is said without much thought, and it us unfortunate. I agree with you that really, it's more about adding to the neighborhood, a la Skinny's.

I am definitely not in the "Bricktown is for tourists" crowd. I am there very often and can't wait for all these hotels and residentials to finish and open (REALLY can't wait for RIP to come alive, and very much wish Uhaul would get converted back to its former glory). Kind of hard to avoid being a Bricktowner it if you live downtown. And I love Bricktown Burgers... wish they were open more. I work too far for it to be practical to visit at lunch (though I've done it).

I have seriously considered getting my staff Keep it Local Cards as part of our Christmas gift to them this year. I have no idea how much money I have saved this year from using my card. One meal with my family in January at Cheever's paid for my card by itself. My only fear is some of my staff that live in Edmond (I hate to stereotype but it seems to hold true in this case) only eat at chain restaurants and I fear that buying them a card would be a waste of money.

Or, you might be giving them impetus to discover things about their community that they never knew existed, and that add value to their hometown, from their perspective. I think it's a great idea.

Or, you might be giving them impetus to discover things about their community that they never knew existed, and that add value to their hometown, from their perspective. I think it's a great idea.

This. Sometimes folks need a nudge.

Get it for them! No one needs to "discover" their own city more than Edmondites. It's absurdly easy to recoup the cost too - I go to NR so often that they don't even make me show my KeepItLocal card. 10% off every sandwich adds up in a hurry! Does Deep Fork still participate? IIRC they give a free appetizer - one of the most efficient uses of KeepItLocal IMO.

I have seriously considered getting my staff Keep it Local Cards as part of our Christmas gift to them this year. I have no idea how much money I have saved this year from using my card. One meal with my family in January at Cheever's paid for my card by itself. My only fear is some of my staff that live in Edmond (I hate to stereotype but it seems to hold true in this case) only eat at chain restaurants and I fear that buying them a card would be a waste of money.

Here is a list of merchants just in Edmond that provide card rewards:

Edmond | Keep It Local OK (http://www.keepitlocalok.com/edmond)

I had a conversation with my friend who works at the corporate headquarters for Henry Hudson's. She said no such news of Hudson's moving into this spot has come across her desk so don't get too excited...

Bummer