I have heard a rumor that since the Backyard Burger closed on Douglas, it will soon be replaced by a Hideaway Pizza!! Could this really be true? Anybody know?

Ok, as much as i like Hideaway, it's a bit pricey. Tasty as all get out though.

I work for them, I can find out. I know they want to expand in Moore and Yukon. I wouldn't be suprised at all if they expand east.

I don't know if the rumor is true or not, but I sure hope it is. I'd love to have a Hideaway close by! With Pablano's Grill next door, that might become my new favorite part of town.

So.. Just checked, and it is just a rumor for now. But they are considering a location near Tinker, among other places.

The last time I was in the Hideaway on NWE they asked me for my zip code so they can decide where to put a future location.

thats true. They also review all of the comment cards to get info on where people come from.

I guess I must be one of the few people in Oklahoma who has never had Hideaway Pizza.

Many have said how great it is, so I'd love to know - how is Hideaway better/different from Papa John's?? To me, nothing beats a PJ pizza with their garlic sauce! mmmm-mmmm

It's good. But certainly not the best pizza ever.

I actually heard this same rumor. Several coworkers of mine frequented Nick's Bar (which shared the same building) prior to it closing last week, and one of them mentioned that a Hideaway might be going in there. I believe this info came from Nick himself.

It would be nice...its a niche pizza. The same people don't go to each sit-down pizza place. You've got different clients at Hideway than at Falcone's or Old Chicago...not to mention the normal delivery places. The location is sort of weird and hasn't been able to support a lot of business so far. It's getting to be a better location as more people aroung the area more often, but you don't have a large draw there like you do on 29th. You would think that would help with rent costs, but that building is still pretty new and flashy, so rent is high.

Hideaway Pizza will not be moving into the former Backyard Burgers.

Eh, well it was a nice rumor while it lasted.

It may happen in the future, but it just won't be in that building at this time.

you're such a tease! :wink:

Well while we're talking about the building...what else do you think would work there? I was never impressed with Backyard Burgers (not just that location, but the chain). I figure if i want a burger like that, I'll go to Braums or Johnnie's. Now it would be cool to get a Johnnies there, but again, I don't think the building fits them.

The design of the place sort of pretty much lends itself to one concept of a restaurant. Maybe the first Ruby Tuesday's in OKC???? I have no basis for that, but it was so specific to Interburban that it's hard to make it fit something else.

Or a TGI Friday's? That might be a good fit.

I would like to see some more non-ethnic, general menu restaurants in MWC. Either RT or TGIF would be a nice addition.

I know Johnnies was approached at one time but they didnt seem very interested in MWC. That was kind of the deal w Hideway.

One problem is most of these places have expansion plans in place 2 years out and if MWC is not in their plans they are not that interested in talking about it.

Lauri - why non-ethnic? You know I would actually LOOOOOOVE to see a sushi place in MWC. The building is too big for that, but hey I can dream.

I would love to see some Indian food out on the East side as well. There aren't very many good Indian places out there. Himalaya in Norman is pretty much the only one I will go to. Gopurum is the default people know, but it's not very good and they have a very limited selection. Plus they are usually kind of pissy...me thinks maybe they are North Indians???

Or how about some Carribean food? Man that's some good stuff!

My main point is, it doesnt have to be a chain of the same old crap we already have 10 choices of in MWC. Why not go for something new that we don't already have? Then that way the location isn't as much of a hinderence because they have to go to it for that type of food.

Bomber - good points. I guess I was just thinking about how many Mexican places we have and wishing for something a little more varied. Carib/South American food would be awesome!

I can't eat beef (allergic), so restaurants that have a variety of non-beef items would be good. Seafood would also be wonderful - that's the one thing I miss about living on the Gulf Coast. I've not had much Indian food, other than Gopurum. It was awful, and yes, the attitude made me decide to never return.

I've got it - how about a restaurant with a BIG bookstore next door! :bright_id

I can't eat beef (allergic)...

You poor, poor soul.

;)

FYI - Super Target sells a jar of Tika Masala sauce that is amazing. You can make Chicken Tika Masla at home and it's AWESOME. They even sell the Hanna (sp?) bread! Yeah Ok, it's the default Indian food American's like, but so what. It's GOOD!

You poor, poor soul.

;)

Yeah - it sucks - I really miss hamburgers the most!

I see there is work going on at the old Backyard Burgers (1851 South Douglas). Any news on what it might become?

Henry Hudsons is moving in there.

Henry Hudsons is moving in there.

Really?

Henry Hudsons is moving in there.

I guess it is about time they moved out that old Der Dutchman location.

FYI - Super Target sells a jar of Tika Masala sauce that is amazing. You can make Chicken Tika Masla at home and it's AWESOME. They even sell the Hanna (sp?) bread! Yeah Ok, it's the default Indian food American's like, but so what. It's GOOD!

Naan is the bread you're referring too, and yes target makes decent store brand sauces and naan bread.



Originally Posted by Lauri101
I can't eat beef (allergic)...

Allergic to beef? Wow, I'm sorry, that must be aweful, I don't know what I'd do without red meat. I'm betting you are in a very small minority, especially in this part of the country.

It's horrible - I really miss it!

I used to be able to eat red meat until a gastric bypass about 15 years ago.

Turkey burgers are no substitute for a greasy, fat 15th Street Grill Burger!

Henry Hudsons is moving in there.

Did they make this decision before or after they got raided for illegal gambling machines?:sofa:

Did they make this decision before or after they got raided for illegal gambling machines?:sofa:

Lol when did this happen?

double post

Right around the end of October - here are a couple of links:

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-gambling-raid-may-be-tip-of-iceberg/article/3317125

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-horse-racing-commission-raid-could-bring-gambling-charges/article/3316633

One of the articles in the print version of paper stated that HH in Midwest City was one of the 6 businesses raided. I cannot find anything on Google that names it, at least in the short time I have this morning!

So if Hudson's is moving out....I have to ask if Atkins plans on buying up the lots to remodel the place like the rest of Uptown. It would be the best possible solution to cap a great renewal project. It would do wonders to finish putting some new lipstick on that whole area!

Too bad HH is moving in there. Can't stand places like that, but at least with the location they are in now, they are at least out of the way and somewhat out of eyesight. What a disgusting little place that is...

sorry for the rant

Well you can pretty much gurantee they will fail at the new location, so we'll be rid of them soon enough. There's no way a bar is going to turn a dollar in that buildilng. It's farrrrrr too fancy a place for Hudson's. Polished wood floors at multi-levels with glass wall windows. Doesn't exactlly say bar to me. I seem to recall Hudson's being plywood over the windows with stained nasty carpet.

I will take that bet on Hudson failing.

Henry Hudsons is a very well run company. This isn't their 1st rodeo.

All the Hudsons but the MWC are mostly newer clean buildings. They knew they needed to get out of their MWC location, despite being the owners of the building.

They also own the Poblano next door (they own all the Poblanos)

As far as all the glass & wood - the property is being gutted and re-done to their specs.

In other words, if you are going to be sitting around waiting for them to fail - you might be waiting awhile

The place just seems too fancy for a bar. If they are going to gut the place, it seems like they could have spent money on building a new structure more effectively. I don't particullarly want them to fail, they are one of the nicer bars around for what they are. In MWC you have a bunch of ghetto crap bars like Booger Reds. But at least Hudson's has some good food and the people inside usually don't get all crazy. You can just hang out with friends, have a drink, get a bite, and not worry about Biker Bob knocking you down.

If you ever went in the place when it was Interurban or anything else that's been in there, it just doesnt sem like a "bar" building. Even gutting the place doesn't take away the architecture of the building or the layout. And I can't imagine that their lease will be so good that they are going to make what they made at 15th. That's why I'm saying it would have been more efficient to build on their own. When you take out windows and architectural features of a structure like that, then what's the point of being there?

And what about Nikz? I never went in there, but did it close with Backyard Burgers.

And what about Nikz? I never went in there, but did it close with Backyard Burgers.

Nikz closed with Backyard. I never saw a crowd in Nikz.

From what I understand the reason they are moving into the BB building is that was much more cost efficent for them rather building from scratch.

Think about what they might spend to renovate that building vs what they would spend on just a bare piece of dirt in a decent location. Then you got A&E, permits, and construction costs. It was probably a no brainer.

Personally, I will go into other Hudsons around town but would not go to the MWC location. Those old low ceilings made the smoke just hover, even if nobody was smoking at the time. I think they will see a significant increase in business. I agree with you about Hudson's overall. They are a pretty good operation. That is why I think they will attract a new crowd of people. Like you said - where else is there in Mid/Del?

Nicks bar actually did pretty well. Thursday nights were packed. But the bar area was not big enough to cover the operating expense once Backyard closed. Same guy operated both. He wasn't happy as a franchisee of Backyard Burgers. Think if you ever saw any corporate advertising for BB. Not around here. Just decided it wasn't worth sending them a royalty check every month for not much in return.

BTW, From what I hear you won't recognize the place on the inside. The bar area is going to be your standard HH horseshoe bar (actually square) in what was the main dining room.

Well if they are gutting, then It makes sense that it would be totally different. It's too bad the old bar has to go though. It's practical to make the bar the main point for the new place since that is the point, but that whole sidea area where Nikz was, was a nice area. I hadn't been over there in who knows how long...it was Interurban last time I was over there. But I remember some very nice wood flooring, very bright, great window views (at that time you had the landscaping of the driving range to look at...now you have weeds).

I wonder if they are considering a two room approach. One for the normal Hudson's world in the main dining room, and a more upscale are back there.

I wonder if they are considering a two room approach. One for the normal Hudson's world in the main dining room, and a more upscale are back there.

Like a Henry Hudson's VIP room? :LolLolLol

Yeah I don't know if the two of them really go together, but it would be a shame to lose the room as is....or at least was.

Like a Henry Hudson's VIP room? :LolLolLol


Maybe just a smoke-free room?

I'd go to it!

Maybe just a smoke-free room?

I'd go to it!

smoke-free and hudsons do not go together at all. Nikz was at least smoke free. If you wanted to smoke, just go outside to the patio.

It was actually a really nice place to sit, have a few drinks, watch a game, and actually be able to hear the person sitting next to you without smelling like a cig when you left.

I would be shocked if the new Hudsons is anything like that.

That would actually be awesome. You would be able to enjoy Hudson's but not come out smelling like butt....and as you say, be able to hear the person next to you.

Build a bookstore next to it and heaven awaits!
:please:

Nicks was a great bar...had a lot of fun in there. Was a darn shame to see it go.

I wonder if they are considering a two room approach. One for the normal Hudson's world in the main dining room, and a more upscale are back there.

Actually I think were Nik's Bar was, is going to be the off track betting area...

I emailed Joe Atkinson at North Star yesterday asking about the old hudson's building, I was curious if they wree planning on incorporating it into their Uptown plans. Apparently 7/11 bought the building and will be tearing it all down for a new station. Personally, i think it's long overdue to replace the station on Key and it's a good location for one too.

He also mentioned that their I-240 development have pretty much been cancelled. They had held off on them when things started turning bad in the economy and now they just don't forsee them being built any time soon. I think that might be overly cautious, but oh well. I wish we could get a grocery store down here in the 240/Sooner area. Even a Walgreens would do wonders over the gas station marts.

Apparently 7/11 bought the building and will be tearing it all down for a new station.

:kicking::congrats: It's about time 7-11 is finally moving. I know they couldn't expand at the location they are now. A newer larger place will really help.

Any word on what is going on with the land behind and north of Rib Crib?