We have found that the best Sonic to buy food at is the Sonic on MLK Blvd by the Tinseltown Theater. The food is always fresh there and the people nice to do business with. The Sonic by my house at 78th and N May must have the worst food. You can use the burger meat for a frisbee it's so hard and way over cooked. We go there for drinks and ice cream, but that's about it.

Makes you wonder about standards from the Sonic corporate office. As far as the quality of food is concerned, there shouldn't be a difference at all. We can all find differences in the way certain McDonald's are managed, etc. but the food tastes the same whether you're in Oklahoma City or Bangor, ME.

It was alluded to earlier in the thread but people who see situations such as this need to make an effort to learn how to complain to the corporate office. Most companies of any size have customer feedback emails or similar processes that are often quite effective. I recently complained to Brinker about a Macaroni Grill here in Denver that has been chronically understaffed. The people there were great but 20% of the tables were empty because they didn't have enough wait staff.

I wrote a complaint to Brinker and made it clear I wasn't wanting anything back - just that in the current economy with 10% of the workforce unemployed, it was immoral to have insufficient staff for the amount of business walking in their door. I received a personal phone call from the western region senior VP and assurance they would have more staff in place within a couple of weeks.

God I love sonic.. The one on May ave near memorial is always consistently good.

I don't know anything about the particular Sonic in the initial post but I eat at quite a few Sonics and they are very hit and miss with many more experiences being in the "miss" category. Having said that, the Sonic at Portland (or Hwy 77) and NW 178th is consistently excellent. Every burger I've eaten there is the equal of places like Ron's Hamburgers in quality. I finally quit eating at the Sonic on SW 29th and May. I either get horrible food or they screw my order up or both!! Fortunately, there are several other fast-food joints in that area.

My sis has worked for the largest owner of Sonic drive-ins for many years. You can be sure the local owner (sometimes called a "partner") is very interested in making you happy. Find out who owns that particular drive in and let them know what it will take to make you happy. Poorly run restaurants, no matter the sign out front, are not profitable restaurants and profit is why they own them.

How can I get my shake? They never took my order in the first place. They ignored the honk signaling a deaf customer needing assistance. They ignored the push button. They did nothing. Talking on the phone, throwing things around in there. You should've seen the black lab dog inside!I've heard of people throwing up after eating at the Sonic, so the situation could have been worse.

You'll hear about people throwing up after eating anywhere. Very rarely is it 1) honestly because of the food and 2) is indicative of some larger issue rather than just a simple mishap somewhere along the very long line of people handling that product.

I once threw up after eating Taco Bueno. I was, and still kind of am, certain that the food was the cause. However, I had been eating their for years prior and have eaten there in the years since. No further issues.

Sponsoring the shirts for the Grizzlies?
http://www.nba.com/grizzlies/news/grizzlies-set-whiteout-fedexforum-game-3-saturday

This was discussed on the Sports Animal this morning. It is apparently a collection of local Memphis area franchisees, if I understood correctly. Nothing wrong with that.

They're most likely franchised Sonic's. There's no way on earth a company headquartered in OKC would sponsor the opponent.

That's what I was trying to say.

They're most likely franchised Sonics. There's no way on earth a company headquartered in OKC would sponsor the opponent.

Probably is, but it would be nice if there could have been a clause in the contracts not allowing this sort of thing. Maybe something that would prohibit francise owners from sponsoring a team or organization that is in direct competition with OKC.....just a thought. But I can't blame the franchisee for wanting to get their name out there......in the end it still supports OKC I suppose (just not the Thunder).

^Why on Earth would Sonic do that?

Just think of all of those extra tater tots sold in Memphis that support jobs in OKC. Should make it extra satisfying when we close out the series and advance.

Why on Earth would Sonic do that?

I have no idea.....was just thinking out loud.

That's what I was trying to say.

Doug, I was in the process of typing my response, obviously, at the same time you were. When I chose to reply to the original poster, there were no other posts, lol.

Come on guys, this is small town thinking. It shouldn't matter even if it was done right out of Sonic headquarters here in Oklahoma City. Should FedEx sponsor teams based only in Memphis? McDonald's for teams based only in Chicago? Coca-Cola only for teams in Atlanta? It's no different for Sonic. Frito-Lay is another example - should they also market and promote teams only from Dallas? Sonic is a national corporation just like the others mentioned, it's pretty small thinking to believe they should only market sports teams in Oklahoma City. At some point, the teams playing out of the headquarters of these cities will be playing teams also sponsored by these same companies. It's not an act of betrayal or disloyalty - it means they're a major player in their respective business and don't think about the possibilities their "hometown teams" might play a team they have marketing and promotional programs with. It's no big deal. It shows only that Sonic is now a major corporation.

Come on guys, this is small town thinking. It shouldn't matter even if it was done right out of Sonic headquarters here in Oklahoma City. Should FedEx sponsor teams based only in Memphis? McDonald's for teams based only in Chicago? Coca-Cola only for teams in Atlanta? It's no different for Sonic. Frito-Lay is another example - should they also market and promote teams only from Dallas? Sonic is a national corporation just like the others mentioned, it's pretty small thinking to believe they should only market sports teams in Oklahoma City. At some point, the teams playing out of the headquarters of these cities will be playing teams also sponsored by these same companies. It's not an act of betrayal or disloyalty - it means they're a major player in their respective business and don't think about the possibilities their "hometown teams" might play a team they have marketing and promotional programs with. It's no big deal. It shows only that Sonic is now a major corporation.

Yessa Master...

Yessa Master...

I personally think MikeOKC is spot on and have no idea what your reply was even trying to say.

Probably is, but it would be nice if there could have been a clause in the contracts not allowing this sort of thing. Maybe something that would prohibit francise owners from sponsoring a team or organization that is in direct competition with OKC.....just a thought. But I can't blame the franchisee for wanting to get their name out there......in the end it still supports OKC I suppose (just not the Thunder).
When you think people couldn't possibly get any dumber, you read stuff like this to confirm that they definitely can.

Now if there were any Sonic locations in Seattle to promote the NBA, then we'd see some fireworks. Or something.

Now if there were any Sonic locations in Seattle to promote the NBA, then we'd see some fireworks. Or something.

Maybe we could get the local Starbucks locations to start promoting the Thunder? That would be fun. LOL

Who cares!Let's just have FedEx sponser our next Home game!

Maybe we could get the local Starbucks locations to start promoting the Thunder? That would be fun. LOL

What, all 4 of them that are left? lol

I personally think MikeOKC is spot on and have no idea what your reply was even trying to say.

It's called sarcasm. It was me being facetious. Don't take it so seriously.

Common sense prevails with my view of the situation—which is to say, this is very much a non-issue, or should be anyway (though I'd be lying if I didn't admit that deep down I feel the slightest bit "amusingly irritated" that the Sonic logo is on the shirts, despite who exactly put it there). People are acting as if the mere presence of the logo will give the Grizzlies a competitive advantage.

Unfortunately, it does seem to be an issue that has taken hold. A look at Sonic's Facebook page shows reply after reply of indignant patrons, many absolving themselves of any further interest in Sonic And So Forth, with one post reporting that a location that is usually busy had but one car last evening. Definitely, without regard to the fact that this should be a non-issue, this is a messy PR cleanup at best.

... Definitely, without regard to the fact that this should be a non-issue, this is a messy PR cleanup at best.

Nah, you can't fix stupid.

Fortunately for the company though, stupid often has a short attention span. It probably won't take more than another day or two for the masses to find something new and equally irrelevant to obsess over. At that point, the silliness of some local folk being outraged because some Memphis area fast food franchisee folk support their local team will be forgotten.

Common sense prevails with my view of the situation—which is to say, this is very much a non-issue, or should be anyway (though I'd be lying if I didn't admit that deep down I feel the slightest bit "amusingly irritated" that the Sonic logo is on the shirts, despite who exactly put it there). People are acting as if the mere presence of the logo will give the Grizzlies a competitive advantage.

Unfortunately, it does seem to be an issue that has taken hold. A look at Sonic's Facebook page shows reply after reply of indignant patrons, many absolving themselves of any further interest in Sonic And So Forth, with one post reporting that a location that is usually busy had but one car last evening. Definitely, without regard to the fact that this should be a non-issue, this is a messy PR cleanup at best.
It's because most people are idiots who know nothing about how business operates......the concept of separately owned franchises is something beyond their comprehension.

It's called sarcasm. It was me being facetious. Don't take it so seriously.

"Yessa Master..." doesn't even make sense in any context as a response to the post.

Why do you care so much? I thought it was funny. Move on.

Um, what about the center formerly known as Ford? Where is AT&T/SBC based? What about Cox?

Morons

"Yessa Master..." doesn't even make sense in any context as a response to the post.

I agree, in fact, I sense a little racism too. I think we got a racist on our hands...

(Well, that should get this thread to at least 4-5 pages)


Um, what about the center formerly known as Ford? Where is AT&T/SBC based? What about Cox?

Morons

I has OKCTalk Bingo (http://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=25442)!

Um, what about the center formerly known as Ford? Where is AT&T/SBC based? What about Cox?
The Ford Center was actually named that from the Oklahoma Ford Dealers group and not Ford Motor Company of Dearborn, Michigan although I am sure they had some level of approval for the deal.
AT&T is based out of Dallas having moved the HQ from San Antonio a few years back, when they put their name on the AT&T Center (formerly SBC Center) they were based in San Antonio.
Cox Communications is based out of Atlanta.

I understand what you are saying, after all American Airlines has naming rights in Dallas (their HQ) and Miami (a major hub). The Delta Center in Salt Lake City is named after the airline based in Atlanta. I think it is an overblown thing that some Sonic franchisees put their name on a t-shirt for the Grizzlies, corporations do that stuff all the time and those built on franchising have the potential for it to happen maybe more often.

For those of you who haven’t read a franchise agreement before, they’re unbelievably lengthy and complex. They require dozens of pages to simply address immediate operational and administrative matters. There’s no way that you could expand the marketing & advertising section to include a list of hypothetical prohibitions such as T-shirts at a home NBA playoff game in which a team from the franchisee’s ADI (look it up) is playing a team from the franchisor’s ADI. What about ball caps? What about a team in the lingerie football league? What about a separately-incorporated Memphis suburb? What about…?

Which do you want first? XD I was at a Sonic just now and they just put up new menu boards in the drive-in stalls. I got to looking at it and noticed some changes. First of all, Pickle-O's are back on the menu! I have to admit, I've never had their pickles but I know people who love them so I guess this is good news for those people who've missed them. I will make a point of trying them sometime.

The bad news for me is that they no longer have the Jr. Fritos Chili Cheese Wrap. :cuss2: This seriously sucks for me because the JFCCW is one of the few things I like on their menu. And it was really cheap, too. I guess not enough people were ordering them or something, which is too bad, because they were delicious. :Smiley099 Oh well. Maybe someday they can bring that back the way they brought back Pickle-O's!

Sonic has limited spaces, so they rotate the specials.

They might still make them for you. Just ask

which do you want first? Xd i was at a sonic just now and they just put up new menu boards in the drive-in stalls. I got to looking at it and noticed some changes. First of all, pickle-o's are back on the menu! I have to admit, i've never had their pickles but i know people who love them so i guess this is good news for those people who've missed them. I will make a point of trying them sometime.

The bad news for me is that they no longer have the jr. Fritos chili cheese wrap. :cuss2: This seriously sucks for me because the jfccw is one of the few things i like on their menu. And it was really cheap, too. I guess not enough people were ordering them or something, which is too bad, because they were delicious. :smiley099 oh well. Maybe someday they can bring that back the way they brought back pickle-o's!

pickle o's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They might still make them for you. Just ask

Yeah, they have all the ingredients to make that happen, most likely. If you ask nicely, the worst they can say is no.

A lot of places do continue making items if they have all the ingredients.

http://consumerist.com/2007/02/the-really-big-guide-to-secret-menu-items.html

Wife loves Pickle-O's. Though she has now become a fan of the fried pickle spears at Mutt's.

The best pickle-Os were always at the Classic 50s drive-in in Norman.

Oh jeez I guess I'm not the only one who misses some classic menu items because I'm reading Sonic's FB page and it sounds like they took a bunch more stuff off the menu.

http://www.facebook.com/sonicdrivein

Someone even set up a Facebook hate page for the missing stuff, too

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sonic-strike/218774751478702

Sonic has always had one of the most diverse menus of any fast food place and like all of them adds and subtracts menu items all of the time. It would be impossible to make everyone happy with their decisions about menu changes.

Sonic got a new president or head person whatever they want to call them. JFCCW was a value menu item. If you notice they are dumping the value menu idea. He wants to go away from the cheap eat and back to the higher quality and good food that made them famous years ago. Said they dont want to compete with the McDonalds and other places, they want to have a better level of food than that and to do it means you got to ax the value menu and improve the food which also raises the cost. Hopefully folks will buy into it and not stop going to the stores, only time will tell.

lolololol Extremely horrible time to be dumping value menus with these ongoing economy. Sonic executives will be reading this and realize before choking on what they had done. Yup, they screwed up.

interesting number of fans that sonic facebook has (first three numbers). ....

Value items were smaller serving sizes so I don't know how quality of the item would be a factor, just the quantity. Being in between jobs myself, I am looking at the $1 menu more often than not. If it isn't even an option, then that establishment isn't an option either.

As others have pointed out, just because it isn't on the menu anymore doesn't mean they don't have it. Taco Bell had the Frito Burrito for several years after they took it off the menu board. And the current trend is not listing every time they have. Many places have gone over to picture menus and only combo meals and the like.

Sonic got a new president or head person whatever they want to call them. JFCCW was a value menu item. If you notice they are dumping the value menu idea. He wants to go away from the cheap eat and back to the higher quality and good food that made them famous years ago. Said they dont want to compete with the McDonalds and other places, they want to have a better level of food than that and to do it means you got to ax the value menu and improve the food which also raises the cost. Hopefully folks will buy into it and not stop going to the stores, only time will tell.

I don't think they're ditching the value menu concept. After all, they're still featuring their Everyday Deals on their new menus and on their website (http://www.sonicdrivein.com/menu/viewSection.do?sectionId=314163). It's just that the JFCCW isn't part of it anymore. And that's what's so terrible about all of this.


As others have pointed out, just because it isn't on the menu anymore doesn't mean they don't have it. Taco Bell had the Frito Burrito for several years after they took it off the menu board. And the current trend is not listing every time they have. Many places have gone over to picture menus and only combo meals and the like.

If the only thing they need Fritos for is the JFCCW, and they're not offering that anymore, then they don't need to order Fritos anymore, either. And if they don't have Fritos anymore, then they wouldn't be able to make an "off-the-menu" Jr. Fritos Chili Cheese Wrap anymore, even by special request. Just a Jr. Chili Cheese Wrap. And who wants that?

That is what I am saying. As far as I know, Taco Bell only used Fritos in the Frito Burrito yet they kept ordering Fritos and making them even after being taken off the menu board (which doesn't make a lot of sense to me). Doesn't Sonic still have Fritos for the Frito Chili Pie (or did they get rid of that too)? If they don't have the full size, smaller may be better than nothing at all and can always get multiples. I agree the ratio of wrap to ingredients goes up (more end pieces) than with the larger version, but when the craving hits....

on edit, maybe it is the smaller size wrap used that is taking the hit on this (they don't use it for anything else) and the full sized is still available if they have the fritos (chili pie) and large wraps (breakfast burritos) etc??? Know Taco Bueno used to have Taco Burgers but since they only used buns for that one item not enough would get ordered leading to higher food waste/costs. So that may play into it too.

Sonic used to have the best peanut butter shake. I haven't been able to find one in years, despite some Sonic employees (teenagers leading me on!) telling me that other locations make them. If any of you know of a location that will make me a peanut butter shake, you'd better tell me.

I looked at the menu while getting a drink the other day, and I didn't see the frito chili pie on the menu anywhere. You could always ask. Some locations do things others don't.

You know what, I don't even care about this anymore. The JFCCW is one of the few foodstuffs I actually like at Sonic, but I'm trying to watch my figure, and I've decided that maybe their removal from the menu is actually a blessing in disguise. It's just one less thing for me to gorge on while I'm ordering my Route 44® drink during Happy Hour, which is just about the only reason I ever go to Sonic in the first place.

This is Sonic's loss, not mine. I'll keep ordering my drinks there and just go somewhere else to eat, somewhere where the food's a lot better and healthier than Sonic's, anyway. Shouldn't be that hard.

You know what, I don't even care about this anymore. The JFCCW is one of the few foodstuffs I actually like at Sonic, but I'm trying to watch my figure, and I've decided that maybe their removal from the menu is actually a blessing in disguise. It's just one less thing for me to gorge on while I'm ordering my Route 44® drink during Happy Hour, which is just about the only reason I ever go to Sonic in the first place.

This is Sonic's loss, not mine. I'll keep ordering my drinks there and just go somewhere else to eat, somewhere where the food's a lot better and healthier than Sonic's, anyway. Shouldn't be that hard.
It doesn't sound like healthy food has been a big concern to you until now. And Sonic has healthy choices available if that's what you're really interested in. I assume that you know that healthy food is not a forte for fast food places anyway and most people know that before they go there.
I suspect that if the only reason you really ever went to Sonic was for a loss leader Happy Hour drink they won't miss your business too much.

You know what, I don't even care about this anymore. The JFCCW is one of the few foodstuffs I actually like at Sonic, but I'm trying to watch my figure, and I've decided that maybe their removal from the menu is actually a blessing in disguise. It's just one less thing for me to gorge on while I'm ordering my Route 44® drink during Happy Hour, which is just about the only reason I ever go to Sonic in the first place.

This is Sonic's loss, not mine. I'll keep ordering my drinks there and just go somewhere else to eat, somewhere where the food's a lot better and healthier than Sonic's, anyway. Shouldn't be that hard.

The drinks your still planning on buying are more unhealthy than the food Sonic serves.

It doesn't sound like healthy food has been a big concern to you until now. And Sonic has healthy choices available if that's what you're really interested in. I assume that you know that healthy food is not a forte for fast food places anyway and most people know that before they go there.
I suspect that if the only reason you really ever went to Sonic was for a loss leader Happy Hour drink they won't miss your business too much.

The 44oz Happy Hour drink is no 'loss leader.' They make good money on those. That's one reason virtually every restaurant gives free refills - perceived value.

I'm a sucker for the happy hour there too. I tend to get the Route 44 at least once a week (vanilla Diet Dr. Pepper, easy, easy ice). Even the Happy Hour price is crazy though considering its still higher than most c-stores and I can often buy a liter for $1.25 or even on sale for $.99 at the grocery store. There normal price is just ludicrous at over $2.

The drinks your still planning on buying are more unhealthy than the food Sonic serves.

He could be getting an unsweet iced tea for all you know. Not that bad for you.

... I tend to get the Route 44 at least once a week (vanilla Diet Dr. Pepper, easy, easy ice).

In my opinion, you're short one easy, at least.
:dizzy:

In my opinion, you're short one easy, at least.
:dizzy:

Yeah, at $1-$2+ a drink, I'm not paying for ice! That said, my wife won't even let us use our refrigerator's ice maker. She makes me buy ice from Sonic every week and fill the ice bucket in the freezer because she way more prefers their tiny cubes to the chunks ours makes. FYI - Sonic ice makes for a terrible Maker's on the rocks though.