One thing I forgot to mention, I would bet you were thinking of Brenda Fox, a classmate and good friend of Judy's.
C. T.

One thing I forgot to mention, I would bet you were thinking of Brenda Fox, a classmate and good friend of Judy's.
C. T.

I'm still trying to learn how to navigate this group, but my last post was meant to be directed to USG'60.
C. T.

I'm still trying to learn how to navigate this group, but my last post was meant to be directed to USG'60.
C. T. ct, go to the member list and then find USG'60. I think you'll figure it out from there.

Grand Avenue later became Sheridan. Not sure when that
happened. You knew that, right? You're older than me.

My grandmother told me that Grand became Sheridan. In earlier years when the Sheraton came to town, the name was changed again at their request. When the Sheraton closed (don't know what year) it was returned to Sheridan.

My grandmother told me that Grand became Sheridan. In earlier years when the Sheraton came to town, the name was changed again at their request. When the Sheraton closed (don't know what year) it was returned to Sheridan.

Not exactly correct on how that happened, papaOU. Please see this article by Steve:

http://newsok.com/article/2964205

I knew I never remembered the street actually being called Sheraton so I researched it a little.

well, I had to buy a new computer and for some unknown reason my password wouldn't work. Oh well, looks like there are a bunch of "Newbies" .....wait a minute....that I guess includes me too.....However, I do remember the name change on Sheridan and it was in about 1962 or 61 that that came about. I just thought someone didn't know what they were spelling...

Hey Soonergirl and other Southeast people...Jerry Blackburn passed away last week.....you probably already knew but, he was a friend of mine also....even though he went to Southeast Grammar School....

Just curious, does the name Generals64 mean U. S. Grant, class of 64?
C. T.

Just curious, does the name Generals64 mean U. S. Grant, class of 64?
C. T.
No. It means he took 64 general classes.

No. It means he took 64 general classes.

OK, I know it was probably a stupid question. I plan on going to Coit's Saturday and although it will be nice to see all of you, I'm particularly interested in CarltonsKeeper since he knows me very well and for the life of me, I can't figure out who he/she is. I did know a Benson family but I'm just not sure. USG'60 and I have figured out that we do know each other (slightly) and hopefully he will be there. It will be good to meet all of you.
C. T.

Catching up here......CT? Reding's are my kin. Me and my Mom went there to see the house right before they tore it down. Beautiful architecture and woodwork all throughout the house. As far as I know, nothing was salvaged. Such a shame. My family? Just poor relations.'
Trying to get a ride to Coit's Saturday, my old PT has bitten the dust.
rowdy

Hey Soonergirl and other Southeast people...Jerry Blackburn passed away last week.....you probably already knew but, he was a friend of mine also....even though he went to Southeast Grammar School....

Yep, I got a message from his cousin the day he died. His sister was in my class and she died just a few years after we graduated with a brain tumor. Jerry's 93-year old mother is still alive.... outlived both of her children. So sad for her.

~~~

Catching up here......CT? Reding's are my kin. Me and my Mom went there to see the house right before they tore it down. Beautiful architecture and woodwork all throughout the house. As far as I know, nothing was salvaged. Such a shame. My family? Just poor relations.'
Trying to get a ride to Coit's Saturday, my old PT has bitten the dust.
rowdy

And what a great wrap around porch, great for sitting outside in the evening. Of course, I was a youngster then and that didn't interest me. We called Mr. Reding "Old Man Reding" because he was kinda grouchy. I don't suppose that had anything to do with the fact that we rode his goats (that really got his goat), played in the hay bales in his barn, rode his horses without his permission, and did lot's of things at his pond, not to mention running roughshod over the pasture from 36th to 44th, and Douglas to Western. Actually, when I was growing up, it stretched a little farther, West of Douglas and South of 41st. Now, why would that make him grouchy?. Mrs. Reding was always a nice lady and knew we were just kids playing. I think she was happy as long as we didn't hurt anything or ourselves. Were you close to JoAnn(sp)?
C. T.

OK, I know it was probably a stupid question. I plan on going to
Coit's Saturday and although it will be nice to see all of you, I'm
particularly interested in CarltonsKeeper since he knows me very
well and for the life of me, I can't figure out who he/she is. I did
know a Benson family but I'm just not sure. USG'60 and I have
figured out that we do know each other (slightly) and hopefully
he will be there. It will be good to meet all of you.
C. T.
Carltonskeeper has never attended a Coit's get together. I'll
be there late, I work until 2pm.

Since this is your first meeting I'll take a root beer and rings.

I just noticed that papaOU says Coit's is at 3pm. (http://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=19885&p=391522#post391522) Is there any
truth to this? It's been 1pm for about 2 years.

Yesterday I read in the paper that Bishop McGiness is having a 50
year reunion for the graduation class of 60. Pennyquilts will
probably be jumping at that one. Grant is having one, too. There's
nothing about Capitol Hill. Probably because there has to be a
graduating class in order to have one.

Carltonskeeper has never attended a Coit's get together. I'll
be there late, I work until 2pm.

Since this is your first meeting I'll take a root beer and rings.

I missed which number of hot dog(s) you wanted. Does a rookie member buy for all attendees? Also, do they take credit cards or hot checks?
C. T.

I missed which number of hot dog(s) you wanted. Does a rookie
member buy for all attendees? Also, do they take credit cards or
hot checks?
C. T.
It's a rule invented by the original four, of which I am a member.
Unfortunately, no newbie has ever shown up with money and
Gen64 ends up buying for everyone.

The meeting is at 3pm! There was a reservation mix up.
papaOU didn't make the reservation with a gun. The other
group did.

It's a rule invented by the original four, of which I am a member.
Unfortunately, no newbie has ever shown up with money and
Gen64 ends up buying for everyone.

The meeting is at 3pm! There was a reservation mix up.
papaOU didn't make the reservation with a gun. The other
group did.

So, are hot dogs still .20? And if we all lie about our age, we can all be served the tiny little mug of root beer for free, then I think I can afford to buy. I just checked, I have almost five bucks, cash money in my pocket. Actually, I'm going to have a slight problem coming at 3:00, I have plans for 5:00 but I hope to at least stop by for a beer (root of course). I'm new to the group and didn't know about the Coit get-together, but next time, I will just keep the afternoon open so if a time change happens, I will still be able to come.
C. T.

UH:.....Don't the Newbies buy ????? what happened to the 3:00 deal????Where's PapaOU man, I'm gone a month bingo....That's it, he's playing Bingo.....


It's a rule invented by the original four, of which I am a member.
Unfortunately, no newbie has ever shown up with money and
Gen64 ends up buying for everyone.

The meeting is at 3pm! There was a reservation mix up.
papaOU didn't make the reservation with a gun. The other
group did.

Yesterday I read in the paper that Bishop McGiness is having a 50
year reunion for the graduation class of 60. Pennyquilts will
probably be jumping at that one. Grant is having one, too. There's
nothing about Capitol Hill. Probably because there has to be a
graduating class in order to have one.

Actually we had our 50th reunion this summer. Wonder why McGiness is having theirs a calender year late?

679

679 Looks like their up to no good!

Catching up here......CT? Reding's are my kin. Me and my Mom went there to see the house right before they tore it down. Beautiful architecture and woodwork all throughout the house. As far as I know, nothing was salvaged. Such a shame. My family? Just poor relations.'
Trying to get a ride to Coit's Saturday, my old PT has bitten the dust.
rowdy

Did you know JoAnn, Sherri, Gene Ferguson or "Daddy Bob" (Gene & Sherri's dad)? They call Sherri "Fergy" now and I believe she works at the Stock Yards and lives over on about S.E. 40th east of I-35.. Did you know Lawrence Reding or Ruthy? I kind of knew the family... Gene I think is living in Shawnee, he married Rhonda Morozoff!! I guess it's been over a year since JoAnn passed away.. Lawrence I believe was living at Lake Texoma when he died..

It's a rule invented by the original four, of which I am a member.
Unfortunately, no newbie has ever shown up with money and
Gen64 ends up buying for everyone.

The meeting is at 3pm! There was a reservation mix up.
papaOU didn't make the reservation with a gun. The other
group did.

The first group reserved for 11:00 to 3:00.

679Who is that old guy?

679
They were plotting the take over of Coney Island.

As far as I can remember it has always been Del Rancho.

At Coit's today, I learned the name of the restaurant on 29th, just West of Penn. It was Hamburger Inn. It took a few minutes for it to sink in, but that's it. It has been bugging me for a couple of years. I know, at my age, the little things bother me too much.
C. T.

C.T., I enjoyed meeting you and apologize for having to leave early.
Gen64 had to tend to Mrs. Gen64.

Rowdy55, papaOU & southsidegirl were there. Who was the stranger
that came in and the blond lady? Frisky, too and Phil, the guy who
makes the meetings but doesn't post on the forum.

Hey Phil, when are you going to join the forum? You have a ton of
southside info!

Who was the stranger
that came in and the blond lady?

Blonde in red sweater, Pam B. Very thin one is Diana B. Both are 1973 CHHS grads. Neither has ever taken part in our forum.

C.T., I enjoyed meeting you and apologize for having to leave early.
Gen64 had to tend to Mrs. Gen64.

Rowdy55, papaOU & southsidegirl were there. Who was the stranger
that came in and the blond lady? Frisky, too and Phil, the guy who
makes the meetings but doesn't post on the forum.

Hey Phil, when are you going to join the forum? You have a ton of
southside info!

Thanks, you are the first person from the group that I met and I enjoyed our conversation too. I sure hope that Mrs. Gen64 is OK, now you are asking me names? I think that the gentleman sitting straight across from me was probably papaou and he is the man that told me that the restaurant was Hamburger Inn. He definitely knew a lot about the old time South side. He really surprised me when he knew the pizza place at 25th and Kentucky. I enjoyed visiting with all of you and plan on attending when I can. I do a lot of traveling so there will be times when I am out of country or at least out of state.
C. T.

I think that the gentleman sitting straight across from me was
probably papaou and he is the man that told me that the
restaurant was Hamburger Inn. He definitely knew a lot about
the old time South side. He really surprised me when he knew
the pizza place at 25th and Kentucky. I enjoyed visiting with all
of you and plan on attending when I can. I do a lot of traveling
so there will be times when I am out of country or at least out
of state.
C. T.
The guy sitting directly across from you was Phil. He has a
ton of interesting things to share. I wish he'd join the forum.
Sometimes he wears a cap that would make a good name.
Thud... something.

PapaOU was sitting to my right. Frisky was the guy that looked
like a secret agent (sunglasses). Rowdy was to PapaOU's right,
and Southsidegirl sat across from her.

I was the guy that looked like Cary Grant.

The guy sitting directly across from you was Phil. He has a
ton of interesting things to share. I wish he'd join the forum.
Sometimes he wears a cap that would make a good name.
Thud... something.

PapaOU was sitting to my right. Frisky was the guy that looked
like a secret agent (sunglasses). Rowdy was to PapaOU's right,
and Southsidegirl sat across from her.

I was the guy that looked like Cary Grant.

OK, PapaOU was the slim gentleman. I didn't get to talk to him. I do remember Frisky very well. Phil, Frisky and I stayed quite a while after everybody else had left. I'm not the best person for names so forgive me for not remembering all of them. As I said earlier, you were the first person from the forum that I met, so I won't forget you forum name, but if I can't remember your real name, that's just me.
C. T.

don't beat yourself up, you'll want to forget him some day...Not, just kidding......I have proud to have known All of the people on this thread.....you will too since you went to Grant....

As I said earlier, you were the first person from the forum that I
met, so I won't forget you forum name, but if I can't remember
your real name, that's just me.
C. T.
That's okay, Mom never gave me a real name.

That's okay, Mom never gave me a real name.

Is it possible that your Mother didn't consider you a "real" baby? OK, you shouldn't have to take this from a "newbie" but I couldn't resist. I think I just beat Generals64 to the punch.
C. T.

That's okay, Mom never gave me a real name.

In my previous life at Hertz we (I) used the term "rookie" which is similar to a "newbie". I coined the phrase "Rookies should be seen but not heard". So, I should just shut my mouth and listen to you older folks.
C. T.

Did anyone see Wanda Jackson on Letterman last night?
Tall Girl told me about it but I haven't seen anything.

Did anyone see Wanda Jackson on Letterman last night?
Tall Girl told me about it but I haven't seen anything.

I stayed up and watched it; recorded it and watched it again the next morning to see if it was as bad as I thought!! Mr. Picker it was down right sad to see her make such a fool of her self. She is definitely ready for Shady Pines Rest Home!! Awful............She tried singing Shakin' All Over - an ol' "Who's" tune. You can hear it on iTunes and maybe Youtube!

I stayed up and watched it; recorded it and watched it again the next morning to see if it was as bad as I thought!! Mr. Picker it was down right sad to see her make such a fool of her self. She is definitely ready for Shady Pines Rest Home!! Awful............She tried singing Shakin' All Over - an ol' "Who's" tune. You can hear it on iTunes and maybe Youtube!

The main problem I saw with this is that the music totally drowned her out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzDfYidKU5c

This is more indicative of what she can still do today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoAQz4KLa2g&feature=fvwk

Of course she's not 25 anymore but I admire what she's doing in keeping a legendary career alive.

I stayed up and watched it; recorded it and watched it again the
next morning to see if it was as bad as I thought!! Mr. Picker it
was down right sad to see her make such a fool of her self. She
is definitely ready for Shady Pines Rest Home!! Awful... She tried
singing Shakin' All Over - an ol' "Who's" tune. You can hear it on
iTunes and maybe Youtube!
A friend of mine said it wasn't very good. We don't have TV so
I was trying to find a link on the Internet.

I quit watching Letterman about 20 years ago, but that band
is still fantastic.

Hi.... I remember Sussy's and Jake Samara, My Grandmother worked there. Her name was Wilma Culver. The cook was
named Otis and he made the best pizza I ever ate !!! Would love to hear more about Sussy's.

Hi... I remember Sussy's and Jake Samara, My Grandmother
worked there. Her name was Wilma Culver. The cook was named
Otis and he made the best pizza I ever ate! Would love to hear
more about Sussy's.
Jake Samara owned Sussy's. He said he was in his office, it was
the Tempo Club, and heard noise in the front. This guy was
rearranging the tables, it was Jack Sussy. He said he was going
to work there and was getting things ready. Jake asked if he
had any restaurant experience and he said that he worked at
a deli in New Orleans for a little while. Jake hired him. Sussy
had the charm necessary for good business, Jake's was about
as warm as a rattlesnake. Jake changed the name to Sussy's
because it covered the "Tempo" on the sign.

Jake Samara owned Sussy's. He said he was in his office, it was
the Tempo Club, and heard noise in the front. This guy was
rearranging the tables, it was Jack Sussy. He said he was going
to work there and was getting things ready. Jake asked if he
had any restaurant experience and he said that he worked at
a deli in New Orleans for a little while. Jake hired him. Sussy
had the charm necessary for good business, Jake's was about
as warm as a rattlesnake. Jake changed the name to Sussy's
because it covered the "Tempo" on the sign.

Prunepicker, I would like to chime in with some facts and some rumors (things I had believed but am not certain about). And hopefully, I will be corrected on the rumors. First, Sussy's name was Jack Sussman. When I was fourteen I double dated with a driving friend at Sussy's on about 40th and Lincoln Blvd, East side of the street. It was a big hit and he then opened "Jack's" on N. E. 23rd between coltrane and Sooner, North side of the street. It was a little more upscale. My first encounter with Jake Samara was at the Sussy's on about 24th and Robinson on the East side. I worked at Lincoln Plaza and met him again at the Lincoln restaurant. By the way, there was a bar attached called the Prow Lounge. I don't know the connection between Sussman and Jake so I will assume you know a lot more about that than I do. I ate lunch at the Lincoln restaurant at least once a week for almost ten years. Jake was there that whole time. Rumors - I was certain that Sussman was from Chicago. He wasn't the first person to bring pizza to OKC but he made it really popular. He owned or was connected with The Nomad and The Nomad II (still open on North May) and they still serve his style of pizza. I think it's really good. There was also a restaurant on Reno, just East of Meridian and I believe it was called "Sullivan's" that served Sussy's original style pizza. I believe Jake was Papa Dio's (Bonadio) brother-in-law. Bonadio's daughter, Candace(sp) Gideo, Jake's niece opened Papa's Little Italy on the I-35 service road at Hefner. I'm open to any corrections since I am 67 and slightly senile.
C. T.

I forgot to mention that Jake's last restaurant was The Spaghetti House in the Paseo district.
C. T.

Thank you for responding,
The one I remember was on 36th and Lincoln. I remember Jake Samara and I called him "Mr. Samara" . He was very nice and
well dressed. I also remember there was a door from the restaurant which lead to a dark place where exotic dancers were. I "peeked"
every chance I got when my Grandmother was busy. I saw a beautiful lady on stage but she had on a blue "see through" evening gown.
I also remember the candy for sale at the cash register ! Cream mints, the little round ones with dark chocolate , some were dark
chocolate with orange filling and some were some kind of buttercream filling . They sold cigars as well. And of course, the food was
very good. Lots of deep red colors in a dim atmosphere.

:tiphat:I also remember the candy for sale at the cash register ! Cream mints, the little round ones with dark chocolate , some were dark
chocolate with orange filling and some were some kind of buttercream filling .

was it a buttercream or maple flavor. Did not like the mints but loved bc/maple flavor. anyplace still have them?

I have always said the mint candies are a way for the eating place to get you out of the parking lot before you threw-up!!

Thank you for responding,
The one I remember was on 36th and Lincoln. I remember Jake Samara and I called him "Mr. Samara" . He was very nice and
well dressed. I also remember there was a door from the restaurant which lead to a dark place where exotic dancers were. I "peeked"
every chance I got when my Grandmother was busy. I saw a beautiful lady on stage but she had on a blue "see through" evening gown.
I also remember the candy for sale at the cash register ! Cream mints, the little round ones with dark chocolate , some were dark
chocolate with orange filling and some were some kind of buttercream filling . They sold cigars as well. And of course, the food was
very good. Lots of deep red colors in a dim atmosphere.

I meant to say "Spaghetti Factory", do you think Mr. Samara might have plagiarized a little? Actually, it's good marketing if you can get away with it. Name recognition is really powerful. When you were "peeking" you were looking at the North part of restaurant/bar. That is what became the Prow Lounge. No women (well not many), several pool tables and a nice place to sit after work for a beer to wind down before going home. It was the working man's "Governer's Club". The Governer's Club was in Lincoln Plaza.

Jake Samara wrote me a check about 15 years ago. I have a copy of
it, somewhere. It was from the King's Club and Sussy's dinner club on
N. Lincoln.

:tiphat:I also remember the candy for sale at the cash register ! Cream mints, the little round ones with dark chocolate , some were dark
chocolate with orange filling and some were some kind of buttercream filling .

was it a buttercream or maple flavor. Did not like the mints but loved bc/maple flavor. anyplace still have them?

I have always said the mint candies are a way for the eating place to get you out of the parking lot before you threw-up!!

**** I believe you are correct...... it was more of a maple flavor and was my very favorite too ! Wish I knew if anyone still sells them.
I will look online at the VERMONT COUNTRY STORE ( they sell lots of candies from years ago )

I meant to say "Spaghetti Factory", do you think Mr. Samara might have plagiarized a little? Actually, it's good marketing if you can get away with it. Name recognition is really powerful. When you were "peeking" you were looking at the North part of restaurant/bar. That is what became the Prow Lounge. No women (well not many), several pool tables and a nice place to sit after work for a beer to wind down before going home. It was the working man's "Governer's Club". The Governer's Club was in Lincoln Plaza.

Thanks.... I never knew the name of the lounge. I "googled" Jake Samara which led me to this OKC talk.
Sounds as if Jake had owned several lounges. I know that Grandma worked for him as a waitress of course, at another location probably before the one on Lincoln.

Jake Samara wrote me a check about 15 years ago. I have a copy of
it, somewhere. It was from the King's Club and Sussy's dinner club on
N. Lincoln.

Did you go to eat at Sussy's often?

Jake Samara wrote me a check about 15 years ago. I have a copy of
it, somewhere. It was from the King's Club and Sussy's dinner club on
N. Lincoln.

Prunepicker, I decided to look around on the web and found a couple of links. One is a story of Jake Samara's public life and appears pretty accurate. It mentions a place on N. E. 23rd where the Sequoya building is now. It doesn't mention the one East of what is now I-35 so I wonder if maybe that was a Jack Sussman restaurant. The article does mention that Sussman was Jake's manager. I did find where Sussman was from Chicago but that doesn't mean that he came here from there. He probably was in New Orleans trying to make a living before coming to OKC. I enjoy the internet, but I know to take what I find with a grain of salt. The second link only mentions Sussy's once and indicates it was his first pizza restaurant and it was on 36th and Lincoln. I'm beginning to doubt that, now that I have learned about the Sequoya location. I didn't even know it existed.
C. T.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4182/is_20011231/ai_n10148897/?tag=content;col1
http://www.jcs-group.com/eerie/poltergeist/ghostly2.html

Sounds as if Jake had owned several lounges.
This may be a rumor but I heard he owned a lot, like dozens,
of small beer joints.

Didn't Sussy try to burn down a restaurant on Thanksgiving Day
two years in a row?

Didn't Sussy try to burn down a restaurant on Thanksgiving Day
two years in a row?

Prunepicker, Very good! I would never have remembered that without help. Was he in financial trouble or just some other shady deal? Seems like the police couldn't find enough evidence to convict him though. Do you remember?
C. T.

Prunepicker, Very good! I would never have remembered that without help. Was he in financial trouble or just some other shady deal? Seems like the police couldn't find enough evidence to convict him though. Do you remember?
C. T.

Did he not do time for insurance fraud at least 40 years ago? I was told that is how & why the N.E. 23rd business burned. I remember it and the south robinson locations the most. First time having pizza was on Robinson.

Didn't Sussy try to burn down a restaurant on Thanksgiving Day
two years in a row?

Hi Prunepicker, are you talking about Jack Sussy or Jake Samara ?

I just heard that Bill Hood from the "Maya" band died this afternoon.

~~~

Hi Prunepicker, are you talking about Jack Sussy or Jake Samara ?
Jack Sussy.