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Martin
04-29-2009, 08:30 AM
moore's closed in the mid 90's. the shooting was in '95. the moore's older daughter was shot by her boyfriend who then committed suicide. same age and same school as me, so i know this for sure.

-M

Redskins/General
04-29-2009, 08:59 AM
moore's closed in the mid 90's. the shooting was in '95. the moore's older daughter was shot by her boyfriend who then committed suicide. same age and same school as me, so i know this for sure.

-M
I went to school with Gloria Moore and Pat Bryan who are husband and wife. Bill Moore the son was working there and it was his wife and daughter who were shot. His daughter died and his wife lived. After the wife recovered they got divorced. Bill Moore has worked for Bryan's Carpet Gallery ever since. I see them on a regular basis. Gloria Moore the daughter to Mr. Moore and sister to Bill Moore never worked there and has no other sisters living or dead!! It's my understanding the shooter was the dead daughter in law to Mr. Moore's boy friend!!

Martin
04-29-2009, 09:26 AM
i went to school with gloria moore and pat bryan that's right... i forgot about that. i went to school with the bryan's kids as well. totally forgot they were cousins.


bill moore the son was working there and it was his wife and daughter who were shot. his daughter died and his wife lived.
yep, that's how i remember it. only thing left out is that the shooter killed himself afterward.


it's my understanding the shooter was the dead daughter in law to mr. moore's boy friend!!
eh? mister moore's boy friend? did that come out right? it was the dead girl's boyfriend... i think they had just broken up.

-M

grantgeneral78
04-29-2009, 10:22 AM
I remember that, it was horrible. Did that not happen in the middle of the afternoon also?

Martin
04-29-2009, 10:53 AM
yep. heck... i remember eating alvarado's on 119th & western for lunch that day. found out about the tragedy by the end of school.

-M

Redskins/General
04-29-2009, 12:29 PM
that's right... i forgot about that. i went to school with the bryan's kids as well. totally forgot they were cousins.


yep, that's how i remember it. only thing left out is that the shooter killed himself afterward.


eh? mister moore's boy friend? did that come out right? it was the dead girl's boyfriend... i think they had just broken up.

-M
My grammar was a weeeeee bit off, don't believe Mr. Moore had any boy friends! LOL In all seriousness this was a tragedy. If I remember right little Bill ran the place for a while after all of this and couldn't make a go it, or maybe the shooting incident ruined it, I don't remember exactly. Bad deal though..

Bulldog
04-29-2009, 01:09 PM
Late 50's, it shut down after a shooting in which the daughter in law who worked there with her husband and father. She died. Gloria Moore went to Grant, it was her dad's place. It closed in about the early to mid 80's and may be opened by someone else now, I don't know. Well known for their breakfast and evening steaks which were not very good!

Is this the Gloria Moore that graduated in '67?

Redskins/General
04-29-2009, 03:18 PM
Is this the Gloria Moore that graduated in '67?
yes

USG '60
04-29-2009, 03:29 PM
And I think Billy graduated in '59.

Bulldog
04-29-2009, 03:58 PM
I went to school with Gloria Moore and Pat Bryan who are husband and wife. Bill Moore the son was working there and it was his wife and daughter who were shot. His daughter died and his wife lived. After the wife recovered they got divorced. Bill Moore has worked for Bryan's Carpet Gallery ever since. I see them on a regular basis. Gloria Moore the daughter to Mr. Moore and sister to Bill Moore never worked there and has no other sisters living or dead!! It's my understanding the shooter was the dead daughter in law to Mr. Moore's boy friend!!

Redskins/General did you graduate in '67 also?

Generals64
04-29-2009, 06:24 PM
Redskins/General did you graduate in '67 also?

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Hey, the old Redskins/General won't divulge those well kept secrets. He just likes to pick on the older members.......Huh Dude????

jellen
04-29-2009, 08:53 PM
that's right... i forgot about that. i went to school with the bryan's kids as well. totally forgot they were cousins.


yep, that's how i remember it. only thing left out is that the shooter killed himself afterward.


eh? mister moore's boy friend? did that come out right? it was the dead girl's boyfriend... i think they had just broken up.

-M
My daughter also went to school with the Bryan's daughter. You may know my daughter.

Redskins/General
04-30-2009, 01:45 AM
And I think Billy graduated in '59.
That be right!!

Redskins/General
04-30-2009, 01:47 AM
My daughter also went to school with the Bryan's daughter. You may know my daughter.
You must be talkin' about Krista the oldest of 3 kids, then Adam then Paul???

Redskins/General
04-30-2009, 01:48 AM
Redskins/General did you graduate in '67 also?
A little earlier than that!! Gen/64 is only guessing, he hasn't a clue!!

Martin
04-30-2009, 05:21 AM
my daughter also went to school with the bryan's daughter. you may know my daughter.

it's possible... i graduated from westmoore in '96 and went to moore west & sky ranch before that.

now i didn't realize the bryan's had a daughter... i only remember two sons with about 3-4 years difference in their ages. the moore's had two dughters who were a year apart in school. i'm the same age as the bryan's older son and the moore's older daughter (if she were alive, of course).

-M

Redskins/General
04-30-2009, 07:11 AM
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jellen
04-30-2009, 08:30 AM
it's possible... i graduated from westmoore in '96 and went to moore west & sky ranch before that.

now i didn't realize the bryan's had a daughter... i only remember two sons with about 3-4 years difference in their ages. the moore's had two dughters who were a year apart in school. i'm the same age as the bryan's older son and the moore's older daughter (if she were alive, of course).

-M

Christa and Steph, my daughter graduated from WM in '91. Steph was in the first pom sqaud. Your younger

papaOU
04-30-2009, 12:02 PM
Christa and Steph, my daughter graduated from WM in '91. Steph was in the first pom sqaud. Your younger

Which Younger............

There were 4 of 'em.......

Generals64
04-30-2009, 02:37 PM
Which Younger............

There were 4 of 'em.......
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If you are talking about Bob and Cole, they are relatives of mine. Or rather, they WERE relatives of mine......some claim to fame huh?????Jesse and Frank left them to fend themselves...oh well...Redskins/General probably has some interesting related secrets in his past.....and probably the future and the present....

papaOU
04-30-2009, 09:48 PM
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If you are talking about Bob and Cole, they are relatives of mine. Or rather, they WERE relatives of mine......some claim to fame huh?????Jesse and Frank left them to fend themselves...oh well...Redskins/General probably has some interesting related secrets in his past.....and probably the future and the present....

Cole, Jim, John, and Bob..............

Who isn't related to them........

Like born in Oklahoma, Yes I am Indian............

related to Crazy Horse, Sitting Bull, and Geronimo on my mother's side....

Oh Yes!! Sacajawea.........

By the way!! I'm related to Robert E. Lee and his entire general staff.......

SE-76
04-30-2009, 09:54 PM
my biggest memory if Moore's was that Jack Beasley frequented them/
Talk about someone who had memories and could spin a story.

Prunepicker
04-30-2009, 10:58 PM
my biggest memory if Moore's was that Jack Beasley frequented them/
Talk about someone who had memories and could spin a story.

Wasn't Jack Beasly a KTOK personality? I think so. Did he have that BBQ
place just east of N. Western where the Rib Crib is, now? It was owned by a
Beasly.

Hey, I just remembered that the BBQ place was Jack's BBQ, and his name was
Jack Beasly!

I'm not certain of the proper spelling of his name.

papaOU
04-30-2009, 11:23 PM
Wasn't Jack Beasly a KTOK personality? I think so. Did he have that BBQ
place just east of N. Western where the Rib Crib is, now? It was owned by a
Beasly.

Hey, I just remembered that the BBQ place was Jack's BBQ, and his name was
Jack Beasly!

I'm not certain of the proper spelling of his name.

No. He had his own station, KLPR. The transmitter was around Cross Roads and I think it might still be used. I want to say KATT or KRXO.......
Just a guess as to who or if it is being used today.............

Prunepicker
04-30-2009, 11:31 PM
No. He had his own station, KLPR. The transmitter was around Cross Roads
and I think it might still be used. I want to say KATT or KRXO...
Just a guess as to who or if it is being used today...

Did he have anything to with the BBQ place in Nichols Hills? I know it was
owned by a Beasly. I'm thinking he was the "black sheep" like me.

I remember a country station called KEBC, keep every body country.

I couldn't stand that station.

I liked to wake up to KKNG because the music and commercials (barf)
weren't obnoxious.

Can you belive it? A commercial that isn't obnoxious!

papaOU
05-01-2009, 12:03 AM
Did he have anything to with the BBQ place in Nichols Hills? I know it was
owned by a Beasly. I'm thinking he was the "black sheep" like me.

I remember a country station called KEBC, keep every body country.

I couldn't stand that station.

I liked to wake up to KKNG because the music and commercials (barf)
weren't obnoxious.

Can you belive it? A commercial that isn't obnoxious!

Don't know about BBQ but the radio station KLPR I know was on air during the 60's and into the 70's

Wish I could remember the call letters of the "underground" fm station in okc during the mid to late 60's.

Played some good cuts and at times sides of lps.

Remember this one?


Rise And Shine
("Oh..uh..me flakes... scrambled eggs, bacon, sausages, toast, coffee marmelade..I like marmelade... pourridge..any cereal, I like all cereals...oh god...")
Sunny Side Up
("Breakfast in Los Angeles, macrobiotic stuff...")
Morning Glory

Driving to the gig. All that electrical suff I cant be bothered with that its so fiddley. Oh god.....

:Smiley026

Prunepicker
05-01-2009, 12:28 AM
Wish I could remember the call letters of the "underground" fm station in okc
during the mid to late 60's.

That was KOCY-FM. Sam Stone was the main DJ. They didn't play LP's.
Everything was on 8 track and was operated by this huge tape player called
the 'Monster'. You may remember that. I don't know what Sam Stone's real
name was but I used to hang out at the station. He was tall and red headed.

Sam would say a few things here and there, but the majority was on tape.

grantgeneral78
05-01-2009, 06:15 AM
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If you are talking about Bob and Cole, they are relatives of mine. Or rather, they WERE relatives of mine......some claim to fame huh?????Jesse and Frank left them to fend themselves...oh well...Redskins/General probably has some interesting related secrets in his past.....and probably the future and the present....

Frank and jesse relation here!

Bulldog
05-01-2009, 07:13 AM
Did he have anything to with the BBQ place in Nichols Hills? I know it was
owned by a Beasly. I'm thinking he was the "black sheep" like me.

I remember a country station called KEBC, keep every body country.

I couldn't stand that station.

I liked to wake up to KKNG because the music and commercials (barf)
weren't obnoxious.

Can you belive it? A commercial that isn't obnoxious!

The DJ that put KEBC on the National Level was our own (US Grant) Lynn Waggoner who has help build KKNG into what it is now.

GOOD Music.

papaOU
05-01-2009, 10:22 AM
The DJ that put KEBC on the National Level was our own (US Grant) Lynn Waggoner who has help build KKNG into what it is now.

GOOD Music.

Toopid............

Bulldogs don't wear earmuffs........

My favorite country tune:
(I edited a few lines so as not to offend)

So get up here on my knee and I sing it fer ya'

LONESOME COWBOY BURT



My name is burtram, I am a redneck.
All my friends, they call me burt.

Hi, burt!

All my family from down in texas
Make their livin’ diggin’ dirt.

Come out here to californy
Just to find me some pretty girls.
Ones I seen gets me so
Ruby lips,
N’teeth like pearls.

Wanna love ’em all.
Wanna love ’em dearly.
Wann pretty girl,
I’ll even pay ...

I’ll buy ’em furs. I’ll buy ’em jewelry ...
I know they like me. here’s what I’ll say.

I’m lonesome cowboy burt.
( speakin’ atcha!)
Come smell my fringe-y shirt.
( reekin’ atcha!)
My cowboy pants,
My cowboy dance,
My bold advance.
On this here waitress ...

He’s lonesome cowboy burt.
Don’tcha get his feelings hurt.

Come on in this place
An’ I’ll buy you a taste.
You can
Where’s my waitress?

Burtram, burtram redneck.
Burtram, burtram redneck.

I’m an awful nice guy.
Sweat all day in the sun.
I’m a roofer by trade,
Quite a bundle I’ve made
I’m unionized roofin’ old
Son-of-a-gun.

He’s a unionized roofin’ old
Son-of-a-gun.

When I get off, I get plastered.
I drink till I fall on the floor.
Find me some communist bastard
N’ stomp on his face till he don’t
Move no more.

He stomps on his face till he don’t
Move no more.

I fuss an’ I cuss and I keep on drinkin’
Till my eyes puff up an’ turn red.
I drool on m’shirt.
I see if he’s hurt.
Then I kick him again in the head, let’s

Kick him again in the head! boys!
Kick him again in the head! now!
Kick him again in the head!

I’m lonesome cowboy burt.
( speakin’ atcha!)
Come smell my fringe-y shirt.
( reekin’ atcha!)
My cowboy pants,
My cowboy dance,
My bold advance.
On this here waitress ...

He’s lonesome cowboy burt.
Don’tcha get his feelings hurt.

Come on in this place
An’ I’ll buy you a taste.

Where’s my waitress?

papaOU
05-01-2009, 10:26 AM
That was KOCY-FM. Sam Stone was the main DJ. They didn't play LP's.
Everything was on 8 track and was operated by this huge tape player called
the 'Monster'. You may remember that. I don't know what Sam Stone's real
name was but I used to hang out at the station. He was tall and red headed.

Sam would say a few things here and there, but the majority was on tape.

That's the one...

Didn't know about the tapes.......

Good station.......

Didn't they play jazz for a time?

Bulldog
05-01-2009, 10:54 AM
Toopid............

Bulldogs don't wear earmuffs........

My favorite country tune:
(I edited a few lines so as not to offend)

So get up here on my knee and I sing it fer ya'

LONESOME COWBOY BURT



My name is burtram, I am a redneck.
All my friends, they call me burt.

Hi, burt!

All my family from down in texas
Make their livin’ diggin’ dirt.

Come out here to californy
Just to find me some pretty girls.
Ones I seen gets me so
Ruby lips,
N’teeth like pearls.

Wanna love ’em all.
Wanna love ’em dearly.
Wann pretty girl,
I’ll even pay ...

I’ll buy ’em furs. I’ll buy ’em jewelry ...
I know they like me. here’s what I’ll say.

I’m lonesome cowboy burt.
( speakin’ atcha!)
Come smell my fringe-y shirt.
( reekin’ atcha!)
My cowboy pants,
My cowboy dance,
My bold advance.
On this here waitress ...

He’s lonesome cowboy burt.
Don’tcha get his feelings hurt.

Come on in this place
An’ I’ll buy you a taste.
You can
Where’s my waitress?

Burtram, burtram redneck.
Burtram, burtram redneck.

I’m an awful nice guy.
Sweat all day in the sun.
I’m a roofer by trade,
Quite a bundle I’ve made
I’m unionized roofin’ old
Son-of-a-gun.

He’s a unionized roofin’ old
Son-of-a-gun.

When I get off, I get plastered.
I drink till I fall on the floor.
Find me some communist bastard
N’ stomp on his face till he don’t
Move no more.

He stomps on his face till he don’t
Move no more.

I fuss an’ I cuss and I keep on drinkin’
Till my eyes puff up an’ turn red.
I drool on m’shirt.
I see if he’s hurt.
Then I kick him again in the head, let’s

Kick him again in the head! boys!
Kick him again in the head! now!
Kick him again in the head!

I’m lonesome cowboy burt.
( speakin’ atcha!)
Come smell my fringe-y shirt.
( reekin’ atcha!)
My cowboy pants,
My cowboy dance,
My bold advance.
On this here waitress ...

He’s lonesome cowboy burt.
Don’tcha get his feelings hurt.

Come on in this place
An’ I’ll buy you a taste.

Where’s my waitress?


My God man, where are you from and what era of time......

papaOU
05-01-2009, 12:48 PM
My God man, where are you from and what era of time......

What day is it????????????

Prunepicker
05-01-2009, 01:34 PM
My favorite country tune is "My Horse is Daid an' now I'm doomed fer ever".
Of course I wrote it. I 'jes cain't fine no ones to play it so I can be rich.

Prunepicker
05-01-2009, 01:35 PM
ooops... dis ain't the music thread...

Don't scold me Mom... I's been reel good.

papaOU
05-01-2009, 01:49 PM
My favorite country tune is "My Horse is Daid an' now I'm doomed fer ever".
Of course I wrote it. I 'jes cain't fine no ones to play it so I can be rich.

If the idea took hold or you wrote any of the lyrics while south of Reno then the little diddy counts as a Southside Memory..............

Generals64
05-01-2009, 04:34 PM
Frank and jesse relation here!

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I hope you don't leave me bleeding and wounded along side of the road.....Went to Missouri and to the James farms...Saw pictures of the Youngers and they do look like my Grandmother's side of the family......

papaOU
05-01-2009, 08:09 PM
My God man, where are you from and what era of time......

At this very moment on stage
We have drummer a playing in 7/8,
Drummer b playing in 3/4,
The bass playing in 3/4,
The organ playing in 5/8,
The tambourine playing in 3/4,
And the alto-sax blowing his notes.

Hands up!
:congrats:
Thank you!

SE-76
05-02-2009, 01:45 AM
No. He had his own station, KLPR. The transmitter was around Cross Roads and I think it might still be used. I want to say KATT or KRXO.......
Just a guess as to who or if it is being used today.............

klpr-am \ kjak-fm begat katt

papaou buy your lunch, next meeting if you can tell me first song
katt played whrn they went on air

papaOU
05-02-2009, 11:14 AM
klpr-am \ kjak-fm begat katt

papaou buy your lunch, next meeting if you can tell me first song
katt played whrn they went on air

Never listened to the KATT. Too commercial. Same with KRXO.

Outgrew commercial radio in Jr. High. bye-bye KOMA........bye-bye WKY

What a long strange trip it's been.........................

papaOU
05-02-2009, 05:57 PM
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I hope you don't leave me bleeding and wounded along side of the road.....Went to Missouri and to the James farms...Saw pictures of the Youngers and they do look like my Grandmother's side of the family......

Do they only look like her "side" and not frontal? Which side? Left or right? Bet she had a thicker mustache!!

disclaimer: all jokes are in fun. I think.

papaOU
05-02-2009, 06:07 PM
klpr-am \ kjak-fm begat katt

papaou buy your lunch, next meeting if you can tell me first song
katt played whrn they went on air

Timothy Leary's "You Can Be Anyone This Time Around."

At least that's what I remember.

All joking aside. Did there not have to be a petiton drive to get the KATT a license? A petition stating it would not turn into a "commercial music outlet"?
That might have been KRXO.

They both suck!!

Redskins/General
05-02-2009, 06:09 PM
Do they only look like her "side" and not frontal? Which side? Left or right? Bet she had a thicker mustache!!

disclaimer: all jokes are in fun. I think.
Are you in fun? If you can't have fun, eat some chicken!! P.S. Did you ever figure that riddle out?

papaOU
05-02-2009, 11:32 PM
My God man, where are you from and what era of time......

Gimme' your age. I am 54.

papaOU
05-02-2009, 11:40 PM
klpr-am \ kjak-fm begat katt

papaou buy your lunch, next meeting if you can tell me first song
katt played whrn they went on air

My true feeling is "Welcome to My Nightmare"! Least that's the way I see it.

BUT!!

It was probably "Catch Scratch Fever" , which is a nightmare within itself :fighting2

SoonerGirl26
05-03-2009, 12:26 PM
He had two brothers who were drafted. Denny and Danny. One never made it out of the minors and the other, going after a foul ball ran into the backstop so hard he suffered kidney damage.

Their Dad passed away last fall or winter.

Darrell had a great carrer with the K.C. Royals but then got mixed-up and hooked on drugs. He committed suicide.

OKAY....I gotta set some of this straight. I grew up next door to the Porter's. Jimmy graduated with me. Darrell was 2 years younger and he had 2 younger brothers, Eddy and Denny, and an older sister, Pat. Darrell signed with the Brewers out of high school in 1970, then later went to KC, St. Louis, and Texas. He was the MVP of the 1982 World Series. He did not commit suicide. He died on Aug. 5, 2002, when his heart stopped due to "excited delirium". I don't remember any of the other three Porter boys being drafted in the minors. Eddy went on to play football at East Central and Denny played baseball for Central State.

Their mother, Mae Porter, died at the end of October last year, and father, Ray, died less than 2 months later right before Christmas. I attended both funerals.


~~~

andy157
05-03-2009, 12:41 PM
OKAY....I gotta set some of this straight. I grew up next door to the Porter's. Jimmy graduated with me. Darrell was 2 years younger and he had 2 younger brothers, Eddy and Denny, and an older sister, Pat. Darrell signed with the Brewers out of high school in 1970, then later went to KC, St. Louis, and Texas. He was the MVP of the 1982 World Series. He did not commit suicide. He died on Aug. 5, 2002, when his heart stopped due to "excited delirium". I don't remember any of the other three Porter boys being drafted in the minors. Eddy went on to play football at East Central and Denny played baseball for Central State.

Their mother, Mae Porter, died at the end of October last year, and father, Ray, died less than 2 months later right before Christmas.


~~~We came from different neighborhoods but I grew up with Eddy,You cleared things up quite well. Glad you did, thanks. Mae cooked our lunch at S.E.

SoonerGirl26
05-03-2009, 12:50 PM
We came from different neighborhoods but I grew up with Eddy,You cleared things up quite well. Glad you did, thanks. Mae cooked our lunch at S.E.

Yes, Mae Porter worked in the SE school cafeteria for many years. She knew how to make those famous cinnamon rolls. In fact, I had her make some for one of our class reunions. She was a gracious lady and loved her kids. I have some fond memories of her when I was growing up.

~~~

andy157
05-03-2009, 12:56 PM
Yes, Mae Porter worked in the SE school cafeteria for many years. She knew how to make those famous cinnamon rolls. In fact, I had her make some for one of our class reunions. She was a gracious lady and loved her kids. I have some fond memories of her when I was growing up.

~~~I agree she was a very sweet lady. So where her rolls.

papaOU
05-03-2009, 01:10 PM
OKAY....I gotta set some of this straight. I grew up next door to the Porter's. Jimmy graduated with me. Darrell was 2 years younger and he had 2 younger brothers, Eddy and Denny, and an older sister, Pat. Darrell signed with the Brewers out of high school in 1970, then later went to KC, St. Louis, and Texas. He was the MVP of the 1982 World Series. He did not commit suicide. He died on Aug. 5, 2002, when his heart stopped due to "excited delirium". I don't remember any of the other three Porter boys being drafted in the minors. Eddy went on to play football at East Central and Denny played baseball for Central State.

Their mother, Mae Porter, died at the end of October last year, and father, Ray, died less than 2 months later right before Christmas. I attended both funerals.


~~~

I know Pat and her daughter Shelia very well.

Cocaine killed Darrell Porter, medical examiner says of drug test
Monday, Aug 12, 2002
By Art Toalston


KANSAS CITY, Mo. (BP)--In a much-hoped-against development, drug test results have shown cocaine use to be the cause of Darrell Porter's death Aug. 5.

Porter, 50, the 1982 World Series Most Valuable Player who later became known for overcoming drug abuse, died accidentally from the "toxic effects of cocaine," a Kansas City-area medical examiner announced Aug. 12 in a news conference.

"Drug testing from samples of blood obtained from the autopsy reveal evidence that Mr. Porter used cocaine shortly before his death," Jackson County (Mo.) medical examiner Thomas Young recounted.

Porter's family released a statement through one of the baseball player's former teammates, Jerry Terrell, stating, "For 22 years, Darrell remained sober. The fact that he failed shows the evil of drugs and the power of the disease. His death is now an even stronger case against the drugs that are prevalent in our society.... Right now we are grieving the loss of someone we loved very much. Please pray for us!"

Porter is survived by his wife Deanne and three children, Lindsey, 20, Jeff, 18, and Ryan, 14. The family had joined the Kansas City-area First Baptist Church, Blue Springs, Mo., church in recent years.

Ted Stone, a drug abuse speaker and author who has spoken in Southern Baptist churches across the country, who had never met Porter, told Baptist Press Aug. 13 that Christians "can certainly develop drug problems," and some might mistakenly believe they can experiment with drugs without any lasting consequence.

"Darrell Porter's recent tragic death is a reminder to all of us of just how dangerous even a casual venture into the drug world can be," said Stone, of Durham, N.C., himself a former drug addict.

"For those of us who have survived and overcome our past involvements in drug abuse, this tragedy should be a graphic reminder that a return to that sad world must never be an option."

Staying clear of drugs, Stone said, entails "a serious dependence on the Lord" of greater appeal than drugs. "The more we get hooked into doing God's will rather than our will, the better our chance for permanent recovery," he said. "It's when we start depending on ourselves that we fall."

Stone added, "For those overcomers who have publicly sounded the alarm about the dangers of drug abuse, this event should remind us that we stand on pedestals, and the world depends on us for renewed examples of lifestyles free from drug abuse. Someone, somewhere trusts in each of us, and we must be true to that trust."

Young, in his news conference about the drug test results, recounted that Porter's blood had a level of cocaine "consistent with recreational use" but not so "abnormally high" as to be described an overdose. Young said Porter apparently was killed by a cocaine-caused condition, "excited delirium," which the medical examiner described as involving high body temperatures and "agitated, bizarre" behavior and capable of stopping a person's heart. In Porter's case, Young said, the excited delirium was worsened by an enlarged heart and high heat and humidity Aug. 5.

Young said Porter evidenced "not the usual driving of someone thinking clearly" when he drove off a gravel road in a park "at a fairly good rate of speed" and hit a tree stump, then a second tree stump where his car became lodged. Porter didn't use his cell phone to call for help. He apparently wandered to the Missouri River alongside the park and then back to his car where Young said Porter died with his T-shirt "partially pulled off and around his neck."

Young said it was not clear whether Porter had used cocaine over an extended period of time or just when he used the dose that took his life.

Porter had taken the summer off from his work with a company that promotes sportsmanship, Enjoy the Game, the Kansas City Star reported. The company's president, Bill Stutz, said Porter had been working through some unspecified personal issues but recently gave the impression that "it was all taken care of." Porter was the two-year-old company's vice president of communications.

In addition to boosting the St. Louis Cardinals to the 1982 World Series title and being named MVP, Porter won the same honor in the league championship series that year. During a 17-year major league career, Porter played in two other World Series, one with the Cardinals and one with the Kansas City Royals, and was a two-time All Star.

He checked himself into an Arizona drug rehab center in 1980 and later wrote a book, "Snap Me Perfect! The Darrell Porter Story," about overcoming drug abuse with the help of a return to his boyhood faith in Christ. He told of how his drug problems, even after his rehab, had sapped his baseball career and of having only taken a sip of beer before breaking into professional baseball in 1970.

Kansas City Star sports columnist Joe Posnanski wrote on Aug. 13, "We wanted to believe. ... We want to believe that, with willpower and hope, anything is possible. We wanted to believe Darrell Porter when he said he quit cocaine. And that's why Monday's news landed like a kick to the stomach."

Describing Porter as "a good man," Posnanski recounted, "He touched so many people through baseball, through the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, through his writing. The end doesn't diminish any of that. But the end does tell the saddest story, the one of a man who found God, worked with children, loved to fish, cherished his family but still could not summon the power to beat cocaine.

"People always underestimate cocaine," Posnanski wrote. "Scientists have done experiments with laboratory animals and found that they would press a metal bar 10,000 times for one shot of cocaine. Ten thousand times."

SE-76
05-04-2009, 10:19 PM
My true feeling is "Welcome to My Nightmare"! Least that's the way I see it.

BUT!!

It was probably "Catch Scratch Fever" , which is a nightmare within itself :fighting2

actually was long train runnin by the doobies. might have been the only
song that wasn't on frampton comes alive that they played that year.

grantgeneral78
05-08-2009, 08:10 PM
what was in bob mills on 29th before he was there?

papaOU
05-08-2009, 08:47 PM
what was in bob mills on 29th before he was there?

A Safeway?

Prunepicker
05-08-2009, 08:48 PM
what was in bob mills on 29th before he was there?

I have no clue, but Prunette went to high school with him.

grantgeneral78
05-09-2009, 04:00 AM
I have no clue, but Prunette went to high school with him.

does she have a furniture store as well?

Generals64
05-12-2009, 03:15 PM
Definitely a Safeway store. As was Jude'nJody's place before it burned down and they rebuilt to the building they are in now....

papaOU
05-12-2009, 09:55 PM
Definitely a Safeway store. As was Jude'nJody's place before it burned down and they rebuilt to the building they are in now....

I knew the Bob Mills was a Safeway but it's funny because I grew-up three blocks from where Jude and Jody's is and went by there for a couple of years walking to Lee School and never remember it being a Safeway. I know on the southwest corner of 29th and Walker was a Sinclair Station, S.E. corner was Lee school and n.e. corner was a "new" car dealer Bolen Olds (?).Just don't remember a Safeway. Maybe because we went to Humpty Dumpty on Commerce and Walker.
Were there any Piggly Wiggly's in the city?

Generals64
05-13-2009, 12:10 PM
I knew the Bob Mills was a Safeway but it's funny because I grew-up three blocks from where Jude and Jody's is and went by there for a couple of years walking to Lee School and never remember it being a Safeway. I know on the southwest corner of 29th and Walker was a Sinclair Station, S.E. corner was Lee school and n.e. corner was a "new" car dealer Bolen Olds (?).Just don't remember a Safeway. Maybe because we went to Humpty Dumpty on Commerce and Walker.
Were there any Piggly Wiggly's in the city?

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Yes on the Safeway....Jude and Jody had a tragic fire and the building burned to the Ground....Late 60's early 70's. Both of them used to work for the original Mathis Brothers on Western. Piggly-Wiggly in Oklahoma used to be just like convenient Stores today. they were original serviced by Allied Foods and they wouldn't let them come into this market as there were too many family Grocery stores in the OKC market and since Allied was the Mother Shape for Humpty Dumpty at that time....

papaOU
05-13-2009, 05:00 PM
Was it Evans on Western just across the river? And were they called "Big Red" at one time? Seems that had a cannon on their commercials. Can't remember the spokesmans name either.

grantgeneral78
05-13-2009, 05:10 PM
Was it Evans on Western just across the river? And were they called "Big Red" at one time? Seems that had a cannon on their commercials. Can't remember the spokesmans name either.

Are you referring to Larry Evans?