ha! i also happen to remember that the "gentlemen's" club was called vixens... though i was younger than five years old around the time it existed and the only reason it sticks in my head is because i thought it had something to do with reindeer. :P

i understand that the target on sw 44th & western wasn't always a 'target'... anyone know what preceded it?

-M

It was another department store known as "Arlans." It had a gas station and automotive service center at the west end, which Target took over and ran for several years before shuttering them both.

At the east end of the store was an Arlan's Grocery Store, which became a Humpty Dumpty store, then a Target Grocery Store, then nothing for some time until it became what is now the Ace Hardware store.

IIRC, Arlans went bankrupt as a chain, and Target (under the Dayton Stores name, I think) bought up several of the chain's properties.

During that time of the mid 70's, there were several "pre Walmart Walmart" type mass-merchandisers that came and went. "Trade Mart" was such a retailer in the space eventually occupied by Service Merchandise on SW 74th and Penn, and now occupied by Big Lots. There was also a local department store known as Kerr's that operated out of the old Reding shopping center that once lived across from Sears, NW from the Target site, but now serves as the Integris (nee South Community) parking lot.

As far as "Vixens" goes, it was an embarassment. Far as I'm concerned, "nice" and "gentleman's club" is an oxymoron...

SoonerDave and classy must also be an oxymoron.

The swimming pool was called Elmwood; nice outside jukebox to watch the girlies do the "hand jive" to, hahahaha!!!!!!

can't remember if it was vixen's or if it was the spot that became hollie's near 84th & western where the owner installed hot tubs. maybe the definition of 'class' varies between people, but i don't find that too classy. i don't think it's much of a coincidence that those types of establishments exist primarily in the seedier parts of town.

soonerdave- wasn't the spot currently occupied by burlington coat factory on 74th & shields a trade mart? i was thinking it carried that name between the time it was brannum's and venture... but i may be wrong.

-M

Ah! I forgot about Hollie's on Western becoming a "gentlemen's" (?) club. I remember going to Hollie's in the 80's when it was an oldies dance club. Never been a "clubber" and at that time, I don't think I'd yet had and "adult beverage" (that came at age 27). What I remember most is some "old guy" (I was 25, so he was in his early 40s probably) dancing over to me when I was sitting at a table with friends and wanting to dance. I thought I was going to throw up.

Also, a note about Arlan's - it was owned by Debbie Reynolds late husband, Harry Karl. I remember my mother taking me and my sisters to the opening. Debbie and Agnes Moorehead (Endora on "Bewitched") signing autographs...

i understand that the target on sw 44th & western wasn't always a 'target'... anyone know what preceded it?-M

On the southeast corner of SW 44th & Western there was originally a store called Arlen's. It was a chain that didn't last long.

can't remember if it was vixen's or if it was the spot that became hollie's near 84th & western where the owner installed hot tubs. maybe the definition of 'class' varies between people, but i don't find that too classy. i don't think it's much of a coincidence that those types of establishments exist primarily in the seedier parts of town.

soonerdave- wasn't the spot currently occupied by burlington coat factory on 74th & shields a trade mart? i was thinking it carried that name between the time it was brannum's and venture... but i may be wrong.

-M

No, it was actually a Woolco department store, and Venture took the space some years after Woolco went bankrupt.

In that time, that Shields shopping center was actually a pretty decent little area - there was a Safeway grocery store on the east end, an organ/piano store in the middle of the "interior" of the mall, and a few other odds and ends. Woolco, however, toward the end, became *really* nasty...I was amazed when Circuit City initially built over there several years ago...

-sd

There used to be a Bonanza steak house where Circuit city now sits, Bonanza was torn down.

yep... and after it was bonanza, i remember it being 'goldies' and then a home cooking restaurant called something like 'split peas' or 'black-eyed pea.' after that, it was dozed to make way for the now empty circuit city.

i don't remember the current burlington spot ever being woolco... not saying it wasn't, just don't remember it. i vaguely remember the 'mall' attached to the strip. it was situated in the inner corner of the "L" near where furr's is. i seem to remember there was a fountain as you walked in. the furr's entrance was accessed from within the 'mall' and was decorated in a heavy spanish motif and they had a piano for live entertainment.

-M

yes, there definitely a woolco at that location, my best friend used to work there. wasn't there a movie theater inside that mall next to the fountain before the mall was gutted and the theater got moved to the outside? i remeber the bonanza. we used to ride our bikes where the home depot is now.

I remember going to Arthur in the 50s Roosevelt in the 60s and then Grant. I remember playing in the woods along Independence Avenue. Mom worked every day and came home and cooked dinner for us every night. I remember when it was a big deal for us to get all dressed up when I was about 13 and Dad took us out to eat at Cattlemens. I wore dresses all the days I was in school, and I also walked to all of the schools I attended until I got rides in high school. I remember feeling deprived because mama cooked all our meals as a kid and now when I can find a recipe like one she cooked its like my most prized possession.

I remember getting my first job in the Sporting Goods department at TGY #411. John Robinett was my boss and HO Price was the store manager. I remember when I got there I knew nothing of guns and when I left I was managing the department and breaking down AR15s and putting them back together. With my first check I went to Sears on 44th and bought my first beautiful yellow wool suit with my own money. I remember mad at Mike because he liked to drag race his 66 SS and getting all dressed up with heels and dangly earings whenever he took me to the movies at the indoor theatres. Of course he liked the drive ins best. I remember when we hired the Round Table bar for our senior DECA party and how cool it was.

Ah.. to have my whole life ahead of me again... or maybe just go back for one more day..
Angie - WHICH MIKE ARE YOU REFERRING TO?????????????????????????????

I'm thinking it is likely you! Have you seen the picture of the Tower Theatre floating around when it was playing Sand Pebbles? We were there! What a great movie that was. What wonderful times they were. What up you don't allow private messages?

Have never used this program before and didn't realize there was private message useage!! I don't think I'm the same person you think. Just give me a last name or color of the car. I graduated in 65!!!!

Give me a hint as to who you are...

Didn't know I didn't allow private messages. New to this site. I don't believe I'm the person you or I thought. I never took anyone to see The Sand Pebbles at the Towers Theater!! Must have been someone else..

Hey:...53rd/Drexel was an old fishing pond when I grew up there.

1. Al & Dub's was originally Potter's..Al and Dub were route salesmen who bought out Mr. Potter.
2. Grant's school name used to be the Eagles.
3. There used to be an old 3 story house on the S.W. corner before Almonte Shopping center.
4. Roosevelt cost $1,000,000.00 originally. Mr. Smith reminded the ninth grade class of this in August of 1960
5. I still have the Moose Head on my fireplace from Crystal's..See ya nxt time

Hey:...53rd/Drexel was an old fishing pond when I grew up there.

1. Al & Dub's was originally Potter's..Al and Dub were route salesmen who bought out Mr. Potter.
2. Grant's school name used to be the Eagles.
3. There used to be an old 3 story house on the S.W. corner before Almonte Shopping center.
4. Roosevelt cost $1,000,000.00 originally. Mr. Smith reminded the ninth grade class of this in August of 1960

What was Al & Dub's and Potter's?
When did Grant change their name to the Generals?
Almonte was built after we moved to the southside. I don't remember the house. What did it look like?
Where did the students go before Roosevelt?

yep... and after it was bonanza, i remember it being 'goldies' and then a home cooking restaurant called something like 'split peas' or 'black-eyed pea.' after that, it was dozed to make way for the now empty circuit city.

i don't remember the current burlington spot ever being woolco... not saying it wasn't, just don't remember it. i vaguely remember the 'mall' attached to the strip. it was situated in the inner corner of the "L" near where furr's is. i seem to remember there was a fountain as you walked in. the furr's entrance was accessed from within the 'mall' and was decorated in a heavy spanish motif and they had a piano for live entertainment.

-M

We used to go that Bonanza every once in a while. The Texas Toast was really good. Goldies was a restaurant chain that Barry Switzer was involved with several years ago. There was a Black Eyed Pea restaurant farther west on the south side of I-240 east of Penn, but it closed down several years ago and was taken over by Joe's Crab Shack. I don't know how well Joe's is doing these days, because my wife - who loves seafood - doesn't even like to go there anymore.

The Shields mall was attached to the Burlington building as recently as a few years ago. That theater became a horrible spot for drug dealers and thugs....I've heard stories from people who were in there watching a movie when the place would get raided by cops. Yikes.

There was a discount/consignment store adjacent to the theater, and after it went out, they just ripped it down and broke the "L" of the mall.

The Safeway that used to be there was of a vintage back when you knew the butcher and could watch them package the beef; alas, those days are long gone.

I do not know this for a fact, but I believe there may have been an intent eons ago to have that Shields mall simulate in some way what used to be known as (and I guess it still is) French Market Mall on NW 63rd and Western.

That reminds me of another long-time strip-mall in S. OKC that is still very much alive - at SW 59th and Western. On the NW corner is what used to be Southwestern Bank (I think it is now something like First United), and they used to have a contest to predict what time/day in the summer it would hit 100 degrees first. They had a time/temp sign when those were unique.

That mall, "Southwestern Plaza" also had one of the coolest toy stores around, called "Kiddie City." They had all kinds of games and toys...just one space over from a photography studio, Zales, Stockton's (I think), another Safeway, McDonald's Drug, OTASCO, a Merle Norman cosmetics store, Radio Shack, a small TG&Y, and Kips Big Boy Restaurant at the far southwest end. There was also a cool self-service US postal service island in the parking lot, where you could drop off parcels, buy stamps, or just drop off mail. The mall was just adjacent to a placed called "Car Wash City...." My grandmother lived the bulk of her life in a neighborhood just north of that mall. Sadly, that area is deteriorating, too....Southwood Baptist Church moved, and the building was sold/torn down, and now there's a pathetic used car lot there with a trailer as sales office...really, really ugly.

soonerdave... the 'black-eyed pea' i was thinking of wasn't part of the national chain. it was just some greasy spoon mom-and-pop... like the ashley's that recently closed near i-240 & western.

i remember the black-eyed pea on penn... not bad, but overpriced. the food isn't bad at joe's, imo, but the place is a bit loud for me. kinda hard to carry on a conversation when the servers are jumping up on tables, singing, etc.

-M

1. Potter's/Al & Dub's was a local drive-in located on the corner of s.w. 44th/Penn. There's a pawn shop there now.
2. Grant originally (while being built) was uner an actual circus Big top tent. The church on the west side of Penn (opposite old band room) was where a number of the Junior High kids went for class. The name was changed around 1957.
3. The old house (Horse training facility) was just an old fashioned looking white frame house. There was a pretty good sized training track and stable however. When we were kids, it was a neutral ground for everyone. Drugs were not thought of then but there were lots of cigarette butts and "Girlie" magazines hid there.
4. The kids went to Grant, Capitol Hill Jr. High or Jackson Jr. High

soonerdave... the 'black-eyed pea' i was thinking of wasn't part of the national chain. it was just some greasy spoon mom-and-pop... like the ashley's that recently closed near i-240 & western.

i remember the black-eyed pea on penn... not bad, but overpriced. the food isn't bad at joe's, imo, but the place is a bit loud for me. kinda hard to carry on a conversation when the servers are jumping up on tables, singing, etc.

-M


Yeah, I recall something being in that spot like what you're talking about. Black Eyed Pea was a strange beast...better than you might hope for, but never as good as you thought it should be. And, yes, they were a bit overpriced, which is why I think they got out of OK. They're still alive and well in Texas.

Any chance you remember the Arthur Treacher's fish-n-chips that used to be just east of Wendy's on I-240? It was built from scratch, opened maybe six months (and that's being generous, actually) before it burned to the ground. It was never rebuilt, and that "fire" always made me suspicious.

I worked at the Chi Chi's restaurant that was located on the spot where Krispy Kreme is now, farther east on the I-240 service road, and that was in the pre-liquor-by-the-drink days where things like restaurant bars were strictly illegal. As I think of it, that had to be my junior year in high school (fall of 1980), and they had me working as a busboy unti 1AM weeknights. When my grades slipped even a bit, mom informed me I was quitting. Heck, even remember the manager's name - Robbie Smart. I worked there when it was first built, and as we went through our training by serving local VIPs, I remembered a guy stopping me in the hallway and handing me a $20 bill for a tip. He said, "Son, that's for you. Don't you share that with anyone, because I've been watching you work your *** off all night." The compliment meant almost as much as the money...almost :)

Probably the biggest thing I miss from my days growing up in S. OKC is the Putt Putt golf course on Western just north of I-240. Seems like every kid in town was packed into that place on a Friday night...seems like everyone had a date but me..now the guy who bought that land after Putt Putt closed down and put in a flooring store is moving over to the old Sight-n-Sound at I-240 and Santa Fe...

You know, a book about south OKC memories might be a fun project...lots of people here seem to have a long breadth of knowledge of the area...

-sd

hmmm... don't remember the arthur treacher's... the only thing east of wendy's that i recall was the big, l-shaped strip that og&e occupied. must be before i started taking notes.

i do remember chi chi's, but frequented the place more in the building's iu sports grill days. we were a nino's family and mostly went there for tex-mex. cool story about the tip!

remember putt putt, too... the jingle "putt putt for the fun of it" still sticks in my mind. i was just a kid when it closed. went to school with the kids of the guy who owns that flooring store. kinda glad to see someone move into the sight-n-sound building. looks like aaron's (the folks who bought out sight-n-sound) moved to the southern hills shopping center.

a south side book would be great... surely somebody has some pictures of what the southside used to look like. i'd especially like to see what 74th looked like prior to the existence of i-240.

-M

Hey: Verna Stafford is STILL alive and in an Oklahoma Penetentiary (sp) She was involved in the murder.
"more Southside Tidbits"
1. Mr. huffman (2nd principal of Grant) fought Joe Louis in a boxing match (didn't win)
2. Grant ( in late 50's early 60's) had a real good athletic dept.
3. There used to be a rifle range in Grant's basement

1. Potter's/Al & Dub's was a local drive-in located on the corner of s.w. 44th/Penn. There's a pawn shop there now.

Where was it in reference to Wilkerson's Drive in? I used to go there a lot when I went to Grant. A friends' grandfather owned it. The bowling alley, Penn-44, was a Saturday morning regular for us.

I'm still in the process of making my memories

Where was it in reference to Wilkerson's Drive in? I used to go there a lot when I went to Grant. A friends' grandfather owned it. The bowling alley, Penn-44, was a Saturday morning regular for us.

If I remember right, Wilkerson's was west of the bowling alley. On the corner of Penn (northeast corner) on 44th st. Was there for some time my mother was the manager for both Mr. Potter and Al &n Dub. Allan Edwards later moved to a bar/grille/restaurant on S.W. 44th just west of Santa Fe...the building is still there on the south side of the street (across from Family dollar).

See if anyone out there remembers the Alamo Motel?
Agnew Theatre?
Yale theater
Knob Hill Theater?
Redskin Theater?
Chieftain Theater?
The above theater's were ALL on the Southside of town and a couple of them were pretty nice....How about Katz Drug Store in Capitol Hill?.....

Arthur School actually (1st semester of 1953-54 school year) in the basement of Herronville elementary....Parents bussed us then. Arthur opened in the second semester of that year...I was in the 2nd grade....Then, in my fifth grade year the North building was built. Mr. Lawter was the principal...then Mr. Hoggard.
Russell Browe was Grant's first principal and then he was transferred to Capitol Hill for his disciplinary control. Capitol Hill was a pretty tough school.

How about Dodson's Cafeteria?
GOT A LOT OF MEMORIES my kids don't care wish someone would write these down.

Remember most of that but Katz downtown when we rode the bus on Saturdays and stopped in for a soda. Do you remember Rickerts Bluff? What a great memory you have I had forgotten principles. Bicycle hills near 59th past May? Eight tracks. When hippys first appeared. When the world went crazy in 1968.
There was a drug store on 44th and May that I stopped in after school a lot of days. 25cent hamburger and 25cent chocolate malt - man, I wish you could find one that good today. Just can't. Little Jims. The farm & frame farmhouse on N side of 44th down from Roosevelt, with the horses. Rumors of gang fights between schools - never saw one. Dirt roads for the longest near Roosevelt.

See if anyone out there remembers the Alamo Motel?


Wasn't it on Grand and S. Robinson and called the Alamo Courts? Maybe it's a different place. El Charrito's was just south of it in the apartment complex.

It's been really entertaining reading this thread. I'm only 25 but I love reading about the past like this. :]

Hey:....I remember the yellow suit...I remember you...I didn't however know that you went to arthur and Roosevelt. During my roosevelt time there were NO Gang Fights, just rumors. You know me very well (or you did a long time ago). Both Robinette and Mr. Price have passed away so has Bill Hair. The drug store was Shaw Drug, the IGA next door was Jim's IGA. Jim Price (Owner) was Mr. Price's cousin and the father to the owner of Little Jim's. There was a Katz Drug Store in Capitol Hill..Mr. Buck's, Emmer Brother's, John A. Brown and many more...Remember the Colliseum in Stkyards?....The big building n the Public Market was notorious for Boxing championships. Answer these and you'll figure out who. Mike said to tell you HI>>>>

Great stuff here! I'm a sout sider myself. I remember going into Kiddie City over off of 59th and Western, too. Wasn't it back in the far corner? Wasn't there a Baskin Robins facing 59th?

We would ride our BMX bikes off of 59th and Walker (the hills were called Paradise). Now it is a drainage ditch! Someone talked of the Putt Putt on Western, it is all gone. Anyone remember the Giant Slide were the car wash is now on Western?

Good stuff on here.

The "Twilight Zone" is a street called Carey Place, in the historic Gatewood residential district near OCU. The legend had it that the street was a center of devil worship in the 1930's, hence the wrought iron window bars with spears on theends. :bow: (yeah, right...) But, you know how urban legends go. I believe it was also called the "doll houses". It IS a strange looking street, just because a trolley car used to have a route down that street and it is VERY narrow. Yes, it does seem quite scary driving down the street at night with a car filled with screaming impressionable teens. :dizzy:

The Park Terrace Theatre was at SW 58th and Western. I remember when it opened - strobe lights, big opening. It was the first theatre to open southside - prior to that, we southsiders had to go north to see a decent movie. I think that the first movie to show there was some John Wayne western. I distinctly remember seeing Mary Poppins there. It was all red velvet and gilding.

The "mansion" was supposedly a large old home out by Lake Stanley Draper in which resided an old African American gentlemen who, as legend had it, would appear at the front door with a gun and shoot at anyone who drove up the long drive. You can imagine what the name of the mansion was in that era (unfortunately). The story was that he was crazy and had killed some people. Of course, I really don't know if it even existed. Everyone I ever talked to who went there got scared and turned back before driving up the drive. I really think it's an urban legend and there never was even a mansion there.

Teri:.....The mansion you talked about was just recently torn down. It was located on N.E. 1st and Bryant in Moore. The area is really building up but it's 3-4 miles from Draper Lake. The Knob Hill was a very nice Movie Theater on S.W. 25th st. in Capitol Hill. The Oklahoma Opry is there now.....How old were your Sisters and when did they go to Grant?

Something a lot of people in OKC didn't know or don't remember was the Friday night singing on 29th and May. People like Wanda Jackson, Norma Jean, Hank Thompson and that group sang there quite often. Do you remember when
Evans Big Red store was downtown and every Saturday Night they would have a show and broadcast it on KLPR....At the time, the ORIGINAL Mathis Brothers, and Jude and Jody would be the performers. Gene and Wiley would be there (that one's probably over your Head). "BIG RED'S FIVE BY BY, FIVE BUCKS DOWN AND A WEEKLY FIVE". That was the slogan yeehaw...See ya next time.

We used to go that Bonanza every once in a while. The Texas Toast was really good. Goldies was a restaurant chain that Barry Switzer was involved with several years ago. There was a Black Eyed Pea restaurant farther west on the south side of I-240 east of Penn, but it closed down several years ago and was taken over by Joe's Crab Shack. I don't know how well Joe's is doing these days, because my wife - who loves seafood - doesn't even like to go there anymore.

The Shields mall was attached to the Burlington building as recently as a few years ago. That theater became a horrible spot for drug dealers and thugs....I've heard stories from people who were in there watching a movie when the place would get raided by cops. Yikes.

There was a discount/consignment store adjacent to the theater, and after it went out, they just ripped it down and broke the "L" of the mall.

The Safeway that used to be there was of a vintage back when you knew the butcher and could watch them package the beef; alas, those days are long gone.

I do not know this for a fact, but I believe there may have been an intent eons ago to have that Shields mall simulate in some way what used to be known as (and I guess it still is) French Market Mall on NW 63rd and Western.

That reminds me of another long-time strip-mall in S. OKC that is still very much alive - at SW 59th and Western. On the NW corner is what used to be Southwestern Bank (I think it is now something like First United), and they used to have a contest to predict what time/day in the summer it would hit 100 degrees first. They had a time/temp sign when those were unique.

That mall, "Southwestern Plaza" also had one of the coolest toy stores around, called "Kiddie City." They had all kinds of games and toys...just one space over from a photography studio, Zales, Stockton's (I think), another Safeway, McDonald's Drug, OTASCO, a Merle Norman cosmetics store, Radio Shack, a small TG&Y, and Kips Big Boy Restaurant at the far southwest end. There was also a cool self-service US postal service island in the parking lot, where you could drop off parcels, buy stamps, or just drop off mail. The mall was just adjacent to a placed called "Car Wash City...." My grandmother lived the bulk of her life in a neighborhood just north of that mall. Sadly, that area is deteriorating, too....Southwood Baptist Church moved, and the building was sold/torn down, and now there's a pathetic used car lot there with a trailer as sales office...really, really ugly.

Don't you remember that mall being on the south East corner? Northwest corner had a house moving company and a Sinclair station...I used to work in that T.G.&Y.I was the first assistant manager...1965.....Then I ran the store on 59th and Penn for a number of years..

Don't you remember that mall being on the south East corner? Northwest corner had a house moving company and a Sinclair station...I used to work in that T.G.&Y.I was the first assistant manager...1965.....Then I ran the store on 59th and Penn for a number of years..

Yes, the mall is on the SE corner, but the former Southwestern Bank is on the NW corner of that property....that's what I was referring to....

Hey:...What about T.G.&Y.? Anyone remember much? You know, most of the teenagers in OKC worked at a T.G.&Y. sore at one time or another. Mr. Young (Y of T.G.&Y) was a good friend. You know there was a T.G.& Y. at the following locations.
1. Airline shopping center
2. 29th & S. May
3. 29th and S. Agnew (long time ago)
4. 29th and Kentucky
5. Capitol Hill on 25th street
6. S. E. 44th and Shields
7. S.W. 44th and Walker ( really a long time ago)
8. Reding ( #1 store in the co. for a long time..before family centers)
9. 44th and S. May
10. S.W. 59th and May
11. S.W. 59th and Penn
12. S.W. 59th and Western
13. S.W. 74th and Pennsylvania

in Capitol Hill the tile going into the store still says T.G. & Y....go see and reminesce (sp).

Hey Mr. Generals!
I always wondered exactly WHERE the "real mansion" was. I also wondered if it didn't really exist...kind of like snipe hunts. :-)

I take it you graduated from USG in '64. You're almost a contemporary of both of my sister's. One graduated in '62 (valedictorian) and the other in '63.

Do you also remember Little Italiano's in Southwestern Plaza?

It's a shame about Southwood. We were members there from 1979-1987.

Back in the day, my sister dated "Little Jim" Price. I was about 7 or 8 at the time, and I remember him as being very nice and very handsome. He was divorced and had a small child - a daughter. I remember them coming over to the house one time.

Small world!

Hey:...What about T.G.&Y.? Mr. Young (Y of T.G.&Y) was a good friend. You know there was a T.G.& Y. at the following locations.


I thought Y stood for yoyos. You know, Toys, Guns and Yoyos.

No Man:......Turtles, Girdles and Yo-Yo's:......Tomlinson (died in 1938) Gosselin, (died in the late 70's) and Yound:... (died sometime in the late 90's, early 2000's). They named it this was in sequence of the age of the three men> Tomlinson was the oldest etc. Mr. Young however, was the brains of the outfit. He started in Kingfisher and the legend began. The first "Hired' store manager was C.A "Pat" Henderson..He ran the store in Norman and later became the first Non-Originator President and CEO then, they sold out ( to raise Capital) in the middle fifties to Household finance parent co. The company was "beat" by Wal-Mart if you look real close, Sam Walton copied T.G & Y. in the Family Center genre. T.G.&Y. was sold off by Household finance in a "Stupid" fashion and ended up in McCrory's Owner "Ishmale Ricklas" hands...They didn't know what to do and they went bankrupt....There is today's lesson T.G&Y. Still missed them......

Hey, do you remember Sussy's? In capitol hill, they made the Rowdy Kids go in the back to eat the $2.00 Combination Pizzas. Now, there was a Pizza...Ned's had nothing on Sussy's

I have lived in Moore since 1968..But when I was in High School in 1973/75...I hung out on 59th street...My best friend had went to school at SE before moving to Moore...she had friends from Rainbows that went to school at Grant...
I also worked my first job at Don's Drive Inn on 59th and Agnew....And I can remember the Donut shop on Penn or Western...
Then I worked at the day care at 59th and Western ...Little People's...

We hung out on 59th at the shopping centers between Penn and Western...
Liz drove a Bright Orange Ford Torino...
Those were the days my friend...Everybody sing now...lol

We didn't have a pool in Moore unless you were a member of the YMCA...so we went to Elmwood...I loved diving off the tower...I could dive off the 2nd tower, but the 3rd tower I had to jump off...

Well thanks for the memories...
Cindy

Cindy:..My first son was born in '73. Did you sunbath on the roof of the changing rooms on on the grass?
In the front parking lot of Elmwood they had a trampoline park.
My wife was very active in Rainbows in the 60's. Her sister was "worthy advisor"?? don't know why...that wasn't nice was it?
Southwest Ford (originally) Bus Horton Ford was there where Wal-Mart is now. also, there was a small Dairy Queen type business there (on the southside of 59th).

SORRY:....WAL-MART DID NOT BEAT T.G.& Y. .... in sam's book he even admits following some of the tg&y ways.

Hey, do you remember Sussy's? In capitol hill, they made the Rowdy Kids go in the back to eat the $2.00 Combination Pizzas. Now, there was a Pizza...Ned's had nothing on Sussy's

I talked to Jake Samara about 10 years ago. He was the owner of Sussy's. He told me that Jack came to the Tempo Club, one Jake's many, and started moving the tables around. He wanted a job. Jake asked if he had any restaurant experience and Jack said he worked in a deli in New Orleans. Jake hired him. The name 'Sussys' was chosen because it would cover the name 'Tempo'. It was on NE 23rd just east of Lincoln. The rest is hysteria.

Jake wrote me a check and it said "Kings Club", which was the Sussy's on NE 36th and Lincoln.

I also worked my first job at Don's Drive Inn on 59th and Agnew....And I can remember the Donut shop on Penn or Western...

Would the donut shop be the Donut Hole on Penn just south of 59th? That was really good. We used to throw papers and eat at 'Denny's Donuts' just east of Miller/Ross on SW 59th. I think an optidoolilist, md eye doc wanabe, has the building, now.

Do you remember an English teacher, at Grant, named Chase. He may have retired before you attended.

Did the Rainbow's assemble at the Myrtle Lodge on 44th & Western? I was a DeMolay in the 60's.

Mr. Chase was a tough teacher but, more of the kids liked him. I think he has passed away. Rainbow's was at the Myrtle Lodge on 44th..It has since moved to 89th st. East of Santa Fe. I used to like to go to those dances that always had. You must be long in the tooth if you were there in the 60's. Where did you go to school and when did you graduate?

Did you sunbath on the roof of the changing rooms on on the grass?
Yep!!!! I don't remember the trampolines...My best friend was Worthy Advisor when we were Juniors or Seniors...That was the only time I was in Rainbow...
My Sister inlaw was in Rainbows here in Moore..She is about 7 years younger than me....

The Rainbows did meet at Myrtle Lodge I think...Hey I am old now you know...LOL
But I went to school in Moore, so I don't know the teachers at Grant, and I am not good with Names either...so I don't remember hardly anyone....
Now I get alot of people say they remember me, And that is weird, cause I tried to not be noticed as much as possible...Shy and Shyer...

My first boyfriend was bussed from SE to Douglas...His name..Virgil....hmmmm

Oh and before cars and highschool...we hung out alot at the skating rink on western....

Mr. Chase was a tough teacher but, more of the kids liked him. I think he has passed away. Rainbow's was at the Myrtle Lodge on 44th..It has since moved to 89th st. East of Santa Fe. I used to like to go to those dances that always had. You must be long in the tooth if you were there in the 60's. Where did you go to school and when did you graduate?

Chase: extricate the quadrapod from the vehicle...

I went to Grant in '69.

Chase: extricate the quadrapod from the vehicle...

I went to Grant in '69.

HEY: where did you go?...1969???Hershell Burns graduated with you. He has undoubtedly to nicest Chevelle in the Country.

I was managing the T.G.& Y. store on 59th and Penn the night you graduated.

let's begin a scavenger hunt and see how far we can go back in Southside History...Challenge is to all...see ya next time

Hey:....come on and join in...your dad knows as much about the southside as anyone...Ask him if he remembers Mr. Bucks"... Levine's (capitol Hill) or, who was cutie?...see ya next time

Hey:....come on and join in...your dad knows as much about the southside as anyone...Ask him if he remembers Mr. Bucks"... Levine's (capitol Hill) or, who was cutie?...see ya next time

BACK TO THE FUTURE
Does anyone remember these?
1. Honest John's Grocery
2. Rotary Park Swimming Pool
3. BS&B Steel and Fabricating.
4. Ray Tener's original shop was where?
5. Ben Franklin in Packing Town next to the Pharmacy (still there).
6. How much was a Hamburger Steak at Glenn's
7. Where was Nocolosis Restaurant.
8. The A&W Drive-In between May and Independence off of 17th st. across from Rockwall school
9. Airline Drive Inn $2.00 car on Sunday Night.
10. Did you EVER? go to the Theater called The Rodeo?
11. How about the Criterion downtown....Or even better play pool upstairs west of the Criterion. An actual hangout for Minnesota Fats.
12. Do you remember the most notorious event in '65 to happen in OKC???A gang Rape at the Split-T.
13. The roads were mud between 44th and 51 and Drexel and Independence until 1955. My parents had to pay $ 50.00 for the concrete put in front of our house on sw 47th.
14. Bob Pooles Grocery Store on 44th and S. May?
15. How about Keirns drive through Dairy Barn?
16. in 1959 there was a car load of kids running up and down south (supposedly from Capitol Hill) Penn and they were shooting out store windows. A lucky shot got the hands off of the clock in front of the Texaco station that used to be on the S.E. corner of 44th and Penn. The guys thought they were so cool for doing that shot they told the police how good shot they were the rest is history.

Come on now Southsiders....Let's make a game of this:...See ya next time

HEY: where did you go?...1969???Hershell Burns graduated with you. He has undoubtedly to nicest Chevelle in the Country.

let's begin a scavenger hunt and see how far we can go back in Southside History...Challenge is to all...see ya next time

I ended up going to a private school and graduated in '71. Please don't ask where.

The name Hershell Burns is familiar but I can't place him. Most of my friends were seniors in '69. Mike Murphy, Duck McDonald, Delmer Pound, Norma Bateman...

How about the tornado of '60? It went down SW 63rd and started tearing up houses on Villa and Hillcrest drive. It lifted our roof and put it back down and made the loudest sound I've ever heard. We were all in the bathroom shaking in terror. Channel 4 (?) made it a special for a couple of years.

BACK TO THE FUTURE
Does anyone remember these?

2. Rotary Park Swimming Pool

7. Where was Nocolosis Restaurant.

9. Airline Drive Inn $2.00 car on Sunday Night.

11. How about the Criterion downtown....Or even better play pool upstairs west of the Criterion. An actual hangout for Minnesota Fats.

4 out of 16. That's batting .250 :-)

Especially the Criterion. When the "Green Berets" with John Wayne was shown there they had some Army guys repelling off of the parking garage that was across the street. Way cool.

The Airline was a mess. Does anybody remember which of the speakers worked? I saw "Night of the Living Dead" there.

Nicolosi's was on N.W. 10th near Ann Arbor. I think their original home, just south of 10th on Ann Arbor, is still owned by the family. Wasn't one of them a veterinarian?

I remember the swimming pool but not the location. Was it on the southside?

We used to cruise the northside but start out on the southside. Quick's and Hollies were our fave's. We'd order beer and when the carhop came out they'd just turn around. It worked once or twice.

About the Alamo motel. Wasn't that the Alamo Courts on Grand Blvd and S. Robinson?

Does anybody remember when Grand Avenue was changed to Sheridan? Sheridan is an official southside street.

4 out of 16. That's batting .250 :-)

Especially the Criterion. When the "Green Berets" with John Wayne was shown there they had some Army guys repelling off of the parking garage that was across the street. Way cool.

The Airline was a mess. Does anybody remember which of the speakers worked? I saw "Night of the Living Dead" there.

Nicolosi's was on N.W. 10th near Ann Arbor. I think their original home, just south of 10th on Ann Arbor, is still owned by the family. Wasn't one of them a veterinarian?

I remember the swimming pool but not the location. Was it on the southside?

We used to cruise the northside but start out on the southside. Quick's and Hollies were our fave's. We'd order beer and when the carhop came out they'd just turn around. It worked once or twice.

About the Alamo motel. Wasn't that the Alamo Courts on Grand Blvd and S. Robinson?

Does anybody remember when Grand Avenue was changed to Sheridan? Sheridan is an official southside street.


1. Don Todd passed away in April of last year....Miss him a lot
2. When YOU were maybe a year old, the Airline and Chieftain movies were GREAT.
3. There is a set of Motel Courts on Grand Blvd. and Robinson but, there was a
Motel located on the N.W. Corner of 44th and Robinson.
4. Do your remember Shipman's Restaurant on the Southside?
5. A guy that went to S.E. still has Mr. Hollies last ElDorado Cadillac
6. Yes, it was (and still is ) that property that juts out on 51st st.
7. Rotary Park is STILL located on or about S.W. 10th or 12th east of Pennsylvania. The pool is no longer there but, the park is.
8. In the early 60's we were playing "Snooker" next to the Criterion upstairs and Minnesota Fats was there playing. At the time, it was NO Big Deal.
9. You aren't old enough to remember wearing Wedges are you?
10. If you played gigs with Don Todd then maybe you remember Al Good? Let's check and see if you can tell me the name of his band???? Did you know that they played the fairground for all of the rodeos plus the NFR for ever?
11. Try Mustard on your Fries next time......

SEE YA NEXT TIME

A long time ago there was a place over in that area called Gill's Donuts. I know Gill passed away several years ago. Is the donut shop still there?

There was a big donut shop on May and 44th st. Used to sell donuts door to door. The largest one I can remember was Hardigres who eventually ended up a donut factory on Main and Western. They would hired kids to sell donuts and you got so much per dozen. We got to eat all we wanted before we went out to sell. Got to the point I didn't want to see another donut. There is still a shop on south Penn about 55th st.............

1960 Tornado, Coolidge Elementary got their south side windows blown out and they couldn't have their Spring 6th grade dance.

Our house had to have the roof replaced and the house got repainted like everyone else's house. In those days, there was not a seal tab shingle. I was in the eight grade and made a deal to "Tar" down the shingles for $5.00 a house and I hired the kids on the block and paid them $2.00 per house. Made pretty good money for a 13 yr. old kid in 1960.

1. Don Todd passed away in April of last year....Miss him a lot
3. There is a set of Motel Courts on Grand Blvd. and Robinson but, there was a
Motel located on the N.W. Corner of 44th and Robinson.
4. Do your remember Shipman's Restaurant on the Southside?
9. You aren't old enough to remember wearing Wedges are you?
10. If you played gigs with Don Todd then maybe you remember Al Good? Let's check and see if you can tell me the name of his band???? Did you know that they played the fairground for all of the rodeos plus the NFR for ever?
11. Try Mustard on your Fries next time.

3. That's the one I'm thinking of. I thought it was the Alamo Courts.

4. Shipman's! YEAH! All the biscuits and honey you could eat. My mouth still waters every time we drive by the building. I ate at the one on S. Robinson around 1982.

9. Wedges? Not sure. Do you mean Weejuns the penny loafter?

10. I played many, many, many, many gigs on the Al Good band. The name of the band was the Al Good Orchestra. I played the Rodeo's too, and the circus and just about anything that came along.

11. Mustard fries... I don't think so.

Is Mulligan's Flats the district on the river between May and Western?

This may be too quick of a notice but I'm playing jazz at the Ranch Steakhouse just west of N. May on Britton Road. We'll be there from 7pm until 10pm.

A really GREAT band.