The 'white flight' took place @1970 when Judge Bohannon (?) issued the
busing rule.

What was the name of the steak house on N.W. 23rd and N. Lottie? I had a
friend that lived across the street from it.

Busing began with the '68-'69 school year. I went to Harding 9th grade '67-'68. The next year Harding was a JHS and we got bussed to Northeast HS. I don't think it was citywide at first. I remember in 11th grade '69-'70 they started the "Block" system. a 2 1/2 hr class in the morning and another in the afternoon. Your classes were M & Th or Tu & F. Each campus had a specialty. NE was the Science campus, I think JM was the Math campus. Had a bunch of John Marshallers in my Senior chemistry class.

PC West was opened in 1968, so it pretty much coincided with that time frame but the movement to the PC district began earlier as you stated. My parents had a rental by Buchanan Elementary when we first moved to OKC (1964) but bought a house a half mile west into the PC district (Hilldale) in 1965 well before bussing and me starting school in 1969. PC North opened in 1978.

There is a sad situation. Hilldale was once a crown jewel of the Putnam City school district. Been there lately? I know a teacher who left there a year ago and she said it is very transient with lots of minorities moving in and out of all the nearby apartments; almost none of them with a father at home and they are all too familiar with the streets at that tender age. Discipline is almost impossible to maintain and it's just a mess. But......it's diverse! Praise the diversity! Multiculturalism has done so much for Putnam City Schools...the posters on the school walls say so, dammit!! Sadly kidding of course.

PC West was opened in 1968, so it pretty much coincided with that time frame but the movement to the PC district began earlier as you stated. My parents had a rental by Buchanan Elementary when we first moved to OKC (1964) but bought a house a half mile west into the PC district (Hilldale) in 1965 well before bussing and me starting school in 1969. PC North opened in 1978.


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All right, I've got you all by a few years.....My sister-in-law graduated from Grant in 1968.....Judge Luther Bohanon declared the busing situation in '68 to commence with the 1968-1969 school year. There were problems with getting bus schedules etc. but, that is when the busing began. I was in my middle 20's and thought just how stupid could this be. Most of the southside "white Flight" began towards Moore, Western Heights, Newcastle,Mustang.....look at the demographics and aerial photos of that time and you'll see


True, but you're missing my point. The demographics of OKC were changing BEFORE Judge Bohannon's rulings. Whites started moving away from the near NE side of OKC before 1960. All of our neighbors who lived next to us on NE 25 had moved well before school busing began. My little sister graduated from John Marshall in 1970 and hers was the last class unaffected by busing at JM. Bohannon DID cause lots more people to move out of OKC Pub School areas, to PC at first (that's why PC had to add PC North and PC West), and also Edmond & Mustang. All I said originally was that "white flight" was taking place in OKC in the 50's and that is true.

Board of Education of Oklahoma City Public Schools v. Dowell (http://www.audiocasefiles.com/acf_cases/9668-board-of-education-of-oklahoma-city-public-schools-v-dowell)

The link is to the U.S. Supreme Court's decision to terminate of the decision of Judge Bohannan to force the OKC school board to implement the Finger Plan and forced busing in 1972. I don't dispute either of your memories as I graduated from Enid in '67, and did not move here until 1972.

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However, Bohanon had issued an earlier order that began in 1968/1969. Two completely separate deals. Some of the worst days during all of this was at Northwest Classen Hign School shortly after the school year began in September of 1969. Look it up in the Oklahoman archives, it's fascinating reading.

I can tell you from experience, that the more "diverse" a school is, the more it will struggle with test scores and probably discipline.

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I can tell you from experience, that the more "diverse" a school is, the more it will struggle with test scores and probably discipline.

No question about it. But, isn't it wonderful? Doesn't it just make you feel good? (cough, cough)

Wow, I didn't really intend to bring up all of these "fond memories". So it was the "Finger Plan", how appropriate, lol. Anyway, anyone else ever go to the Ritz in Britton? It was only 20 cents to get in, and I had to run out during "The House on Haunted Hill" when I saw the floating head. And back to my original questions, Address of Black Brick and names and pics of Y Jr Baseball teams? Nichols Hills Rattlesnakes Midget B about 1961 - OKCTalk Photo Gallery (http://www.okctalk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2847)http://www.okctalk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2847

Wow, I didn't really intend to bring up all of these "fond memories". So it was the "Finger Plan", how appropriate, lol. Anyway, anyone else ever go to the Ritz in Britton? It was only 20 cents to get in, and I had to run out during "The House on Haunted Hill" when I saw the floating head. And back to my original questions, Address of Black Brick and names and pics of Y Jr Baseball teams? Nichols Hills Rattlesnakes Midget B about 1961 - OKCTalk Photo Gallery (http://www.okctalk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2847)http://www.okctalk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2847

I remember going to the Ritz as a kid with my parents. Is there anything in the theatre bldg. now?

I always wanted to get in the building as a kid (it has always been closed in my memory).

I don't think so, I took this pic of it a week or so ago... Ritz Theater in Brtitton April 2010 - OKCTalk Photo Gallery (http://www.okctalk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2844)

Wow, I didn't really intend to bring up all of these "fond memories". So it was the "Finger Plan", how appropriate, lol. Anyway, anyone else ever go to the Ritz in Britton? It was only 20 cents to get in, and I had to run out during "The House on Haunted Hill" when I saw the floating head. And back to my original questions, Address of Black Brick and names and pics of Y Jr Baseball teams? Nichols Hills Rattlesnakes Midget B about 1961 - OKCTalk Photo Gallery (http://www.okctalk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2847)http://www.okctalk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2847

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Hey guy:....the memories and discussions we have on this board are tremendous. we all have memories of different times and of different things. Just glad we have some more Northside people involved. Your question to the Black Brick is that it was about two blocks east of OCU. the area has since been demolished. I remember going there in about 1965. Though Carltonskeeper and I harass each other we are good friends for many years and he has a memory like a steel trap. He has undoubtedly missed this question but, I'll talk with him this week and get you a pretty accurate address.....That was probably one of his many haunts growing up ....(until he figured out it was "Near" Beer)....Tall Girl has a picture of a baseball team. get her to post it for you.

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Hey guy:....the memories and discussions we have on this board are tremendous. we all have memories of different times and of different things. Just glad we have some more Northside people involved. Your question to the Black Brick is that it was about two blocks east of OCU. the area has since been demolished. I remember going there in about 1965. Though Carltonskeeper and I harass each other we are good friends for many years and he has a memory like a steel trap. He has undoubtedly missed this question but, I'll talk with him this week and get you a pretty accurate address.....That was probably one of his many haunts growing up ....(until he figured out it was "Near" Beer)....Tall Girl has a picture of a baseball team. get her to post it for you.

Thanks, Generals64, that's about what I remember, on N McKinley or so. And a garage with a Black Brick somehow attached to the door as a sign...and lots of pillows to sit on and maybe weird fruit drinks...and smoke in the air, was that incense? lol. Is that Grant Generals? A lot of red and blue/gray paint was spent on splattering each others schools back then...

Wow, I didn't really intend to bring up all of these "fond memories". So it was the "Finger Plan", how appropriate, lol. Anyway, anyone else ever go to the Ritz in Britton? It was only 20 cents to get in, and I had to run out during "The House on Haunted Hill" when I saw the floating head. And back to my original questions, Address of Black Brick and names and pics of Y Jr Baseball teams? Nichols Hills Rattlesnakes Midget B about 1961 - OKCTalk Photo Gallery (http://www.okctalk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2847)http://www.okctalk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2847

Never made it to the Ritz, but ate many a lunch at the A&A Cafe. Best chicken and noodles of any restaurant anywhere, Monday lunch special as I recall. Old grandma type made the noodles from scratch, made really good cinnamon rolls fresh, too; but you had to get there way early in the morning or else they were sold out.

I too was thinking it was on McKinley... in fact, I thought it was where the Blue Door is now ... maybe?

Hey Corpsman, first of all, thanks for being a corpsman. Next, see anything familiar here?
Britton OK about 1949, looking W on Britton Rd - OKCTalk Photo Gallery (http://www.okctalk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2849)

There is a sad situation. Hilldale was once a crown jewel of the Putnam City school district. Been there lately?
My parents still live in the same house a couple of blocks from Hilldale, my sister lives down the street from Mayfield and is a teacher in an elementary school that feeds into PC West so they are still very much in the area. I know that both Mayfield and West changed between the 12 years difference that my sister and I have, she taught at Mayfield for awhile when she moved back from Little Rock and it had changed even more in just the 5 years removed from the schools being at OU/UCO and a year in Little Rock.

Thanks, Generals64, that's about what I remember, on N McKinley or so. And a garage with a Black Brick somehow attached to the door as a sign...and lots of pillows to sit on and maybe weird fruit drinks...and smoke in the air, was that incense? lol. Is that Grant Generals? A lot of red and blue/gray paint was spent on splattering each others schools back then...

Sounds like the People's Workshop on Paseo!:kicking:

Hey Corpsman, first of all, thanks for being a corpsman. Next, see anything familiar here?
Britton OK about 1949, looking W on Britton Rd - OKCTalk Photo Gallery (http://www.okctalk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2849)

What a great pic of Britton! I know there was a TG&Y tucked in that little downtown and a grocery store. What's in the pic that should look familiar?

Hey Corpsman, first of all, thanks for being a corpsman. Next, see anything familiar here?
Britton OK about 1949, looking W on Britton Rd - OKCTalk Photo Gallery (http://www.okctalk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2849)

I use to go to a bar in that area in the 70's called "Ruby Tuesdays".

I use to go to a bar in that area in the 70's called "Ruby Tuesdays".

I drove a beer truck for Dale Distributing, the local Miller franchise, back then. Every Friday I would grab a carton of plastic beer cups, with permission of course, and head out to Ruby's with 5 or 6 friends to "deliver" the cups. Never once paid to get in there.

I drove a beer truck for Dale Distributing, the local Miller franchise, back then. Every Friday I would grab a carton of plastic beer cups, with permission of course, and head out to Ruby's with 5 or 6 friends to "deliver" the cups. Never once paid to get in there. Pretty wild place, wasn't it !?!?

Pretty wild place, wasn't it !?!?

Not as wild as the Longbranch on Agnew!

Not as wild as the Longbranch on Agnew!

Yeah, it was. I saw David Alan Coe, Hank williams Jr., Jimmy Buffett, Canned Heat, Vince Vance and the Valiants and a few more bands that, I can't remember in that place.

Yeah, it was. I saw David Alan Coe, Hank williams Jr., Jimmy Buffett, Canned Heat, Vince Vance and the Valiants and a few more bands that, I can't remember in that place.

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O.K. guys, I'm officially gettting old....I forgot about the Longbranch.....

Saw many a movie in the Ritz. The "snack bar" was a glass display case pulled up in front of an old doorway that went who knows where. Britton ceased being a town (officially) about the time I was born - 1948. But it maintained its identity for many years afterward. Who remembers Fitzgerald's Place? The old Walgreens? The Rexall Drug store? Dr. Lane and Dr. Snow? Father and Daughter docs. Norman Walker appliances? Hold on to your hat: Nig's Snooker Parlor? Don't get excited, it's an abbreviated nick name. Owl Courts? The Mule Barn Cafe?

Was the Longbranch where the Agnew Theater used to be?

yep

Yeah, it was. I saw David Alan Coe, Hank williams Jr., Jimmy Buffett, Canned Heat, Vince Vance and the Valiants and a few more bands that, I can't remember in that place.

Alvin Crowe and his band which I can't remember the name of, think maybe The Pleasant Valley Boys, were pretty regular there. Remember their song Niquil Blues? How about Whiskey River on NE 23 in Spencer or Rhinestone Cowboy at SE 59 & High?

Alvin Crowe and his band which I can't remember the name of, think maybe The Pleasant Valley Boys, were pretty regular there. Remember their song Niquil Blues? How about Whiskey River on NE 23 in Spencer or Rhinestone Cowboy at SE 59 & High? Oh yeah, saw Asleep At The Wheel at the Whiskey. The Rhinestone wasn't a bad place, "back in the day".

... But it maintained its identity for many years afterward. Who remembers
Fitzgerald's Place? The old Walgreens? The Rexall Drug store? Dr. Lane and
Dr. Snow? Father and Daughter docs. Norman Walker appliances? Hold on to
your hat: Nig's Snooker Parlor? Don't get excited, it's an abbreviated nick
name. Owl Courts? The Mule Barn Cafe?
Was that leather repair man there in the 50's? You know, the guy that had
a phone but never used it.

Saw many a movie in the Ritz. The "snack bar" was a glass display case pulled up in front of an old doorway that went who knows where. Britton ceased being a town (officially) about the time I was born - 1948. But it maintained its identity for many years afterward. Who remembers Fitzgerald's Place? The old Walgreens? The Rexall Drug store? Dr. Lane and Dr. Snow? Father and Daughter docs. Norman Walker appliances? Hold on to your hat: Nig's Snooker Parlor? Don't get excited, it's an abbreviated nick name. Owl Courts? The Mule Barn Cafe?

Well Jimbo, I remember them all. The Ritz sure was dark and had the stickiest floors of any theater, but but was cheap to get in. I loved the fountain at the Britton Drug (too bad it burned down). We'd usually buy stamps at the little post office around the corner, (on N Francis?). My aunt worked at the Britton Bakery for a while, great brownies. I remember my Dad using the TV tube tester in the Otasco in Britton. Bought a lot of 29 cent (the cheapest ones) Revell model airplanes at the TG&Y. I always liked Precures Red Bud for the comic books, too, never went to Uhle's. If I had Bill Gates money, I'd buy Britton and fix it up.

Saw many a movie in the Ritz. The "snack bar" was a glass display case pulled up in front of an old doorway that went who knows where. Britton ceased being a town (officially) about the time I was born - 1948. But it maintained its identity for many years afterward. Who remembers Fitzgerald's Place? The old Walgreens? The Rexall Drug store? Dr. Lane and Dr. Snow? Father and Daughter docs. Norman Walker appliances? Hold on to your hat: Nig's Snooker Parlor? Don't get excited, it's an abbreviated nick name. Owl Courts? The Mule Barn Cafe?

Well Jimbo, I remember them all. The Ritz sure was dark and had the stickiest floors of any theater, but but was cheap to get in. I loved the fountain at the Britton Drug (too bad it burned down). We'd usually buy stamps at the little post office around the corner, (on N Francis?). My aunt worked at the Britton Bakery for a while, great brownies. I remember my Dad using the TV tube tester in the Otasco in Britton. Bought a lot of 29 cent (the cheapest ones) Revell model airplanes at the TG&Y. I always liked Precures Red Bud for the comic books, too, never went to Uhle's. If I had Bill Gates money, I'd buy Britton and fix it up.

When I went to see David Allen Coe at the Longbranch there "motorcycle" thugs trying to get fights started in the lobby. It got pretty rough, too and I was genuinely worried about what all might happen that night. When the show started I realized it was David and the band members that had been the badasses in the lobby. Lovely individuals.

Alvin Crowe is a S.E. grad.....

Thanks, Generals64, that's about what I remember, on N McKinley or so. And a garage with a Black Brick somehow attached to the door as a sign...and lots of pillows to sit on and maybe weird fruit drinks...and smoke in the air, was that incense? lol. Is that Grant Generals? A lot of red and blue/gray paint was spent on splattering each others schools back then...
I was only there once, but I was always thought it was on N. McKinley in the 1300 block west side of street! I may be way off!! Someone the other day told me it was the 1300 block of N. Blackwelder.. Been toooooooooooo long ago!!

I was only there once, but I was always thought it was on N. McKinley in the 1300 block west side of street! I may be way off!! Someone the other day told me it was the 1300block of N. Blackwelder.. Been toooooooooooo long ago!!

When I went to see David Allen Coe at the Longbranch there "motorcycle" thugs trying to get fights started in the lobby. It got pretty rough, too and I was genuinely worried about what all might happen that night. When the show started I realized it was David and the band members that had been the badasses in the lobby. Lovely individuals. I remember that and DAC was sitting in the foyer as you came in. I remember saying "hey" to him as I walked in.

I remember that and DAC was sitting in the foyer as you came in. I remember saying "hey" to him as I walked in.

And he didn't threaten you? Cool. It was hard to enjoy the show with him having been such a jerk. I probably did anyway, though. :kicking:

Well Jimbo, I remember them all. The Ritz sure was dark and had the stickiest floors of any theater, but but was cheap to get in. I loved the fountain at the Britton Drug (too bad it burned down). We'd usually buy stamps at the little post office around the corner, (on N Francis?). My aunt worked at the Britton Bakery for a while, great brownies. I remember my Dad using the TV tube tester in the Otasco in Britton. Bought a lot of 29 cent (the cheapest ones) Revell model airplanes at the TG&Y. I always liked Precures Red Bud for the comic books, too, never went to Uhle's. If I had Bill Gates money, I'd buy Britton and fix it up.

I agree. I'm a 66 grad from JM. My sisters both graduated from there too. Older sis in '61, younger sis in '68.

I was only there once, but I was always thought it was on N. McKinley in the 1300 block west side of street! I may be way off!! Someone the other day told me it was the 1300 block of N. Blackwelder.. Been toooooooooooo long ago!!

I still think it was either where the Blue Door is or the other little ex-neighborhood grocery is in that neighborhood. One or tother.

How about Whiskey River on NE 23

Only went there one time. New Years Eve in the late '70s. A band called Oklahoma was playing the New Year in to promote their new album.

And he didn't threaten you? Cool. It was hard to enjoy the show with him having been such a jerk. I probably did anyway, though. :kicking:

It was hard not to enjoy any show at the Long Branch, just breathe the room

It was hard not to enjoy any show at the Long Branch, just breathe the room

Liked it much better when it was the Scene!!

Saw DAC in 1976 when he was on tour after releasing Long Haired Redneck album. Was at the Diamond Ballroom. He so wanted to be recognized as an outlaw type in the same manner as Willie and Waylon. Other than Once Upon A Rhyme album, he's pretty well sucked from 1977 to now.

Liked it much better when it was the Scene!!

Saw DAC in 1976 when he was on tour after releasing Long Haired Redneck album. Was at the Diamond Ballroom. He so wanted to be recognized as an outlaw type in the same manner as Willie and Waylon. Other than Once Upon A Rhyme album, he's pretty well sucked from 1977 to now.

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Yep, his dreadlocks are getting a bit "Nasty" looking now.....

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Yep, his dreadlocks are getting a bit "Nasty" looking now.....

Did not know he wore them. Shows you how much I have kept up with him through the years....

Did not know he wore them. Shows you how much I have kept up with him through the years....

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There was a Fabricated story about him killing someone in jail....never was proven nor was there ever a body. He was and still is a pretty tough guy. He was here one time at the Coca-Cola building down in Bricktown and my son was Security for him.....My son told me that when it was just him and DAC that DAC was a pretty intelligent person then, when someone would show he became a tough guy again....I remember when him, Mickey Newberry, John Prine and that group of entertainers came on the scene and how music did change....I have most of their vinyls....but, I kinda got hooked up on Merle Haggard and that group about then......You know, "Country"....when country wasn't cool.....

John Prine is still great.

If you want to talk country, how about a little Jimmie Rogers, Cowboy Copas and String Bean?

If you want to talk country, how about a little Jimmie Rogers, Cowboy Copas and String Bean?

Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys!

Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys!

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Weird you guys would post those, My nephew is up here from Ft. Worth and I showed him some old '78 records I had found and they were:...Jimmie Rodgers, Bill Wills, Bill Monroe and more...

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Weird you guys would post those, My nephew is up here from Ft. Worth and I showed him some old '78 records I had found and they were:...Jimmie Rodgers, Bill Wills, Bill Monroe and more...

Has anyone ever been able to yodel like Jimmie?

Has anyone ever been able to yodel like Jimmie?

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Yeah:...........Wanda Jackson.....good old OKC Gal....still performing and to large crowds....

Eddie Arnold was a good yodeler, as is "Ranger Doug" of "Riders in the Sky" fame.

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Yeah:...........Wanda Jackson.....good old OKC Gal....still performing and to large crowds....


Eddie Arnold was a good yodeler, as is "Ranger Doug" of "Riders in the Sky" fame.

True, and so was Roy Rogers, but they are better known for something other than yodeling. Jimmie was known at least as much for yodeling as anything else.
Isn't he also called the Mississippi Blue Yodeler?

True, and so was Roy Rogers, but they are better known for something other than yodeling. Jimmie was known at least as much for yodeling as anything else.
Isn't he also called the Mississippi Blue Yodeler?

Sure, he was known as the MIssissippi Blue Yodeler as well as the "Singing Brakeman".

Eureka! I found it! The Black Brick was located at NW 27th & McKinley and (in 1961)owned by Janey Crain and her husband Bob, Very close to the Blue Door.http://www.okctalk.com/members/jmgrad68-albums-jm68-photos-picture246-clipping-newspaper-story-jan-27-1961-about-beatnik-scene-okc-contains-paragraph-location-owner-ship-black-brick-27th-mckinley-janey-crain.html

Clipping about the Black Brick January 1961 in an article about Beatniks. Now we wonder about the Gourd, 53 Broadway Circle, and the Buddhi at 9th & Broadway.
http://www.snapdrive.net/files/531840/blackbrick1271961.jpg

Clipping about the Black Brick January 1961 in an article about Beatniks. Now we wonder about the Gourd, 53 Broadway Circle, and the Buddhi at 9th & Broadway.
http://www.snapdrive.net/files/531840/blackbrick1271961.jpg

I went to the Black Brick a few times back in the 60's. I'm not a coffee drinker at all but it seemed like a cool place at the time for those of us trying to be beatniks or hippies. With little success by me I might add.

I have thoroughly enjoyed and have been amused at all the postings on this site----I have been reminiscing on all the places mentioned---Bixlers, Cherry's, Hollies, Dennis Donuts, Crystals, Shotgun Sams, Shakey's Pizza Parlor, Sugar Shack, Carps, Kaisers and all the many other places. I am not too familiar with the areas other than the North part of OKC---I did a juvenile program and was required to go to Mulligan Flats and was so appalled at the area and felt ashamed of all the material items I had and worried about those who lived there and also in the Flats area also. Being so young, they were rather reluctant to allow me to work in that area---but I wanted to---until I saw how it was at that time. I also worked for many years for Curtis Photography on Classen Blvd and then returned and completed my degree at Central State Collge in Edmond. . Those of you who have posted are quite a group and I have really enjoyed and have been amused with you all. You all are quite a group!!! I do want to ask if any of you all can remember a restaurant where you ordered at the table with a phone and there were little juke boxes on the table also. Seems as if it was on Lincoln??? I know it wasn't the Across the Street Restaurant for certain. Could anyone be of help??? Thanks and I look forward to reading more posts---it has been like a time machine warp!!!!