I guess maybe less active?

Hmm, that is surpising, I thought opening the Warren theater would make people stop going to the AMC theater but I guess I was wrong

The Crossroads Regal isn't very old as far as I know. They built it in the early '00s and it was pretty nice for the time. It's good to hear it hasn't gone away yet but it probably will with the way everything else surrounding crossroads is dying. Is there any outparcels there still doing well?

So far as I know, both the Regal and the dollar theater out in the southeast hinterlands of the CRM parking lot are both still drawing decent crowds. Texas Roadhouse and the hotels do well. As for the strip that long ago used to be Luby's, D-Zone and retail, I haven't gone by there and looked for quite a while, but it seemed quite barren the last time I did circle through.

The Crossroads Regal isn't very old as far as I know. They built it in the early '00s and it was pretty nice for the time. It's good to hear it hasn't gone away yet but it probably will with the way everything else surrounding crossroads is dying. Is there any outparcels there still doing well?

FWIW, the Texas Roadhouse immediately southwest of the AMC theater is routinely packed, and even on unusual nights of the week. Went there with my family on my birthday a couple of Tuesdays ago and it was really, really busy.

So far as I know, both the Regal and the dollar theater out in the southeast hinterlands of the CRM parking lot are both still drawing decent crowds. Texas Roadhouse and the hotels do well. As for the strip that long ago used to be Luby's, D-Zone and retail, I haven't gone by there and looked for quite a while, but it seemed quite barren the last time I did circle through.

Yeah, Zeke went out of business but not sure on the others but I am sure it is dead

Everytime I passed by Crossroads on the way to work, it makes me want to puke, I just wish the eyesore mall would be bullrazored and turn into something nice

But it is a wonderful piece of architecture that must be saved! o wait, this isn't the Stage Center thread, my bad.

But it is a wonderful piece of architecture that must be saved! o wait, this isn't the Stage Center thread, my bad.

Hahaha

Everytime I passed by Crossroads on the way to work, it makes me want to puke, I just wish the eyesore mall would be bullrazored and turn into something nice

Yeah, OKC could bulldoze it like Kansas City closed down Bannister Mall (due to a history of violence) and then bulldozed it. It's one ugly area when you drive by on I-435 now--they were suppose to build a new MLS stadium there for the KC Wiz, but I guess the deal fell through for whatever reason. Point is, maybe OKC is trying to take something from the KC experience and wait until something concrete comes to fruition.

Also, there is a bridal show there this Sunday, so it isn't going anywhere fast.

Yeah, OKC could bulldoze it like Kansas City closed down Bannister Mall (due to a history of violence) and then bulldozed it. It's one ugly area when you drive by on I-435 now--they were suppose to build a new MLS stadium there for the KC Wiz, but I guess the deal fell through for whatever reason. Point is, maybe OKC is trying to take something from the KC experience and wait until something concrete comes to fruition.

Also, there is a bridal show there this Sunday, so it isn't going anywhere fast.

That really sucks for Kansas, it would have been cool to see, I looked up and they are using as a office and retail site, I guess that is better than nothing

Yeah, OKC could bulldoze it like Kansas City closed down Bannister Mall (due to a history of violence) and then bulldozed it. It's one ugly area when you drive by on I-435 now--they were suppose to build a new MLS stadium there for the KC Wiz, but I guess the deal fell through for whatever reason. Point is, maybe OKC is trying to take something from the KC experience and wait until something concrete comes to fruition.

Also, there is a bridal show there this Sunday, so it isn't going anywhere fast.


It seems strange to keep talking about how "OKC" should do something. The mall is private property and, for better or worse, the owners have to decide what to do with it unless the city takes it over by eminent domain for some nebulous purpose. I just doubt that the city is interested at this point in owning that land for some kind of redevelopment when they have much more urgents needs in other areas to develop.

The city won't do anything unless it sits vacate for an extended period of time. I honestly don't know how long they can keep the lights on without any major changes. I wonder what stores are actually bringing in foot traffic? I don't see stores like Bath & Body Works, Frederick's of Hollywood, Rue 21, Victoria's Secret, or Zales Jewelers staying there that much longer and I'm sure the rents get cheaper and cheaper every time a new lease is signed.

The city won't do anything unless it sits vacate for an extended period of time. I honestly don't know how long they can keep the lights on without any major changes. I wonder what stores are actually bringing in foot traffic? I don't see stores like Bath & Body Works, Frederick's of Hollywood, Rue 21, Victoria's Secret, or Zales Jewelers staying there that much longer and I'm sure the rents get cheaper and cheaper every time a new lease is signed.

Even then the city won't do anything unless there is clearly a better plan for that area that makes economic sense.

It seems strange to keep talking about how "OKC" should do something. The mall is private property and, for better or worse, the owners have to decide what to do with it unless the city takes it over by eminent domain for some nebulous purpose. I just doubt that the city is interested at this point in owning that land for some kind of redevelopment when they have much more urgents needs in other areas to develop.

Agreed. That part of town is pretty much past the point of no return and I doubt there will ever be a huge push to revitalize it. Business has moved south and west. The owners should sell the mall to a Hollywood studio and they can make a movie in it like they did with Dixie Square Mall.

Blues Brothers Dixie Square Mall - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtF6BP7ZEEw&feature=related)

Agreed. That part of town is pretty much past the point of no return and I doubt there will ever be a huge push to revitalize it. Business has moved south and west. The owners should sell the mall to a Hollywood studio and they can make a movie in it like they did with Dixie Square Mall.

Blues Brothers Dixie Square Mall - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtF6BP7ZEEw&feature=related)

Well that certainly was not the point I was trying to make. That area is hardly past the point of no return and it will eventually be revitalized. It just can't be a priority at this time given other financial obligations of the city. I think the private sector will salvage the location at some point. It is still a prime location.

Well that certainly was not the point I was trying to make. That area is hardly past the point of no return and it will eventually be revitalized. It just can't be a priority at this time given other financial obligations of the city. I think the private sector will salvage the location at some point. It is still a prime location.

There would have to be some kind of economic incentive to revitalize it though. The I-35 corridor in South OKC is the worst of the worst in this city. Plus, all the momentum is from downtown up to 63rd. If anything big happens on the south side, it might be an upscale lifestyle center between Moore and Norman or somewhere in SW OKC (West Moore). I believe the Crossroads area is finished for the foreseeable future. I don't think developers would really want to take the risk on it.

There would have to be some kind of economic incentive to revitalize it though. The I-35 corridor in South OKC is the worst of the worst in this city. Plus, all the momentum is from downtown up to 63rd. If anything big happens on the south side, it might be an upscale lifestyle center between Moore and Norman or somewhere in SW OKC (West Moore). I believe the Crossroads area is finished for the foreseeable future. I don't think developers would really want to take the risk on it.


And I think you're wrong but it will be private developers that rescue the area. There was absolutely nothing more going for the I40 area between MacArthur and Council than this area has going for it. Private developers showed the way.

it continues to be humorous to see tales of the impending end of CRM some 4.2 plus years after the question was initially posed. How it continues sans anchors is a mystery, but continue it does.

It seems strange to keep talking about how "OKC" should do something. The mall is private property and, for better or worse, the owners have to decide what to do with it unless the city takes it over by eminent domain for some nebulous purpose. I just doubt that the city is interested at this point in owning that land for some kind of redevelopment when they have much more urgents needs in other areas to develop.

Sorry, I'm not obviously in the know. But if it were the case, which its apparently not, that would be a good reasoning. I don't know if the City of Kansas City bought that land up there in Missouri or it was the developers decision after the mall had been shut down since that was a few years after I left the area.

I just hope it doesn't end up like zombie mall like the Dixie Square Mall in Harvey, Illinois which is probably most famous for the car chase in the mall scene in The Blues Brothers which was filmed in 1979 (released in 1980). The last thing that I saw most of the mall was still sitting there some 30 years later.

DeadMalls.com - Dixie Square Mall (http://www.deadmalls.com/malls/dixie_square_mall.html)
Ghost Mall (http://dixiesquare.webs.com/)

There are a bunch of other sites and pics of Dixie Square Mall out there as well.

That really sucks for Kansas, it would have been cool to see, I looked up and they are using as a office and retail site, I guess that is better than nothing

I think you mean it sucks for Missouri.

I think you mean it sucks for Missouri.


The stadium actually ended being built in Kansas City, KS

Livestrong Sporting Park - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livestrong_Sporting_Park)

The stadium actually ended being built in Kansas City, KS

Livestrong Sporting Park - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livestrong_Sporting_Park)

Damn i didn't know that. I assumed it was somewhere on the Missouri side. Then that really does suck they tore down Bannister Mall for no reason. It used to be a very good mall and was always pretty busy. Well hopefully Cross Roads doesn't end up like that.

Damn i didn't know that. I assumed it was somewhere on the Missouri side. Then that really does suck they tore down Bannister Mall for no reason. It used to be a very good mall and was always pretty busy. Well hopefully Cross Roads doesn't end up like that.

I would really rather Crossroads be torn down and redeveloped that sit empty for decades like a lot of these dinosaurs do.

It really is sad to see Crossroads in the shape its in but I honestly believe its past the point of no return. Back in the middle of the last decade it could have possibly been saved, but post recession with no anchors and being smack dab in the middle of one of the sketchiest areas in OKC, its going to be a tough sell to find anybody that would be willing to take the risk on it.

To those familiar with the real estate market, do you see a way Crossroads can be saved? If not, is there even a possibility it could be re-developed in the current economic environment given its location?

I just hope it doesn't end up like zombie mall like the Dixie Square Mall in Harvey, Illinois which is probably most famous for the car chase in the mall scene in The Blues Brothers which was filmed in 1979 (released in 1980). The last thing that I saw most of the mall was still sitting there some 30 years later.

DeadMalls.com - Dixie Square Mall (http://www.deadmalls.com/malls/dixie_square_mall.html)
Ghost Mall (http://dixiesquare.webs.com/)

There are a bunch of other sites and pics of Dixie Square Mall out there as well.

Finally demolished this year.

Finally demolished this year.

Yeah, I just read about that, it is about damn time! It is nuts for a dead mall to sit there for 30 years

Yeah, I just read about that, it is about damn time! It is nuts for a dead mall to sit there for 30 years

Especially since it was only open for 12 years (1966-1978, IIRC).

I'd like to see them take the partially-built Native American museum down by the river and move it all inside Crossroads Mall, dirt and all. Just cram it in the old Dillard's store. And then I'd like to see the Stage Center building crammed in the old JCPenney store. Out of sight, out of mind. And they'd be closer to the dump that's just east of there.

Very interesting post.

Especially since it was only open for 12 years (1966-1978, IIRC).

Yeah, they should demolish Crossroads now and rebuild it and make it a useable space

THE WHOLE MALL TREND IS ON LIFE SUPPORT..How many new malls are being built in the U.S.

THE WHOLE MALL TREND IS ON LIFE SUPPORT..How many new malls are being built in the U.S.

Well due to the national economy not many retail outlets are being built period. As for malls though, the future is either upscale or outlet. The middle class has moved on to big box chains and power centers.

Crossroads mall needs to go. Bring on the wrecking ball.

I think it would be a good Flea Market, its in the right part of town too.

Turn the inside into a giant skateboarding/BMX course.

Turn the outside into a race course.

I've always wanted to turn the entire mall into a giant urban paintball course!

Site of our future NFL stadium.

Site of our future NFL stadium.

That really might be what can turn that area around, and it would be a great place for it being that its at the crossroads of I-35 and I-240. It would also be a good location for an amusement park, if OKC ever were to get a real one (Frontier City doesn't count).

Drove by there this morning on the way to work, and saw a sign infront of the Old Best Buy (which was being painted) that said that it will soon be the home to Heritage College... which i believe is just moving from the building just to the north of there

That really might be what can turn that area around, and it would be a great place for it being that its at the crossroads of I-35 and I-240. It would also be a good location for an amusement park, if OKC ever were to get a real one (Frontier City doesn't count).

An ideal location for an amusement park would be that mill downtown incorporate rides with the existing buildings and such that would be awesome.

Too bad the only person around these parts with the money to pull it off is a bible thumper would be nice if David green would buy that property level it clean up contaminants and such and put it up for developement or maybe build a mega church on the land lol.

I may be blind but could someone link me to the coop mill thread

Why doesn't Valley Brook petition to acquire the parcel of land upon which sits the carcass of the former Crossroads Mall after OKC proper having reconsidered previously non-effective land-grab treaties and contracts . . . simply decide to re-cede it to them? Less police . . . More fun and busting. No? I'm sure that there is at least one "Indian" buried in that vicinity and what better place for a casino?

I was told by a commercial realtor group this week that there is a group that is actively negotiating to turn Crossroads into a Hispanic Mall like one that is in the Dallas area. The same commercial realtors also told me that they at one point were working another group who wanted to turn into a waterpark like Great Wolf in Dallas but that fell through.

I was told by a commercial realtor group this week that there is a group that is actively negotiating to turn Crossroads into a Hispanic Mall like one that is in the Dallas area. The same commercial realtors also told me that they at one point were working another group who wanted to turn into a waterpark like Great Wolf in Dallas but that fell through.

While this seems like one of the more plausible ways to go with it, do we have any idea how well located is it for the Hispanic population of the city?

While this seems like one of the more plausible ways to go with it, do we have any idea how well located is it for the Hispanic population of the city?

They guys that I met with all thought that it was not a good idea. For one, the demographics of the area are not hispanis. Actually it is more business/industrial.

Big fire at the new Heritage College building last night(Old Best Buy).

Authorities Investigate Three-Alarm Structure Fire In OKC - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | (http://www.news9.com/story/20356247/authorities-investigate-three-alarm-fire-structure-fire-in-okc)

Big fire at the new Heritage College building last night(Old Best Buy).

Authorities Investigate Three-Alarm Structure Fire In OKC - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports | (http://www.news9.com/story/20356247/authorities-investigate-three-alarm-fire-structure-fire-in-okc)

Maybe arson? Sounds suspicious....

I went to Bath and Body Works there last week and the place isn't nearly as empty as it's made out to be. The finally consolidated the businesses down to the central core from all the outlying spaces. So yes, it's empty when you first walk in from any door. But there are as many stores in the middle of the thing has hertiage park had on a normal day. Are they all "good" stores, no not really. But there are a few things there that probably won't move out until the place closes...like Bath and Body Works, Victoria's Secret, Zales, etc.

One thing you will notice there now, is that it's 80% families. Almost anyone there is there with their kids and spends at least some time at the play area.

So to all of you complainin that it's crime ridden, i'm not sure you're looking correctly. Would I go there at night? No. Too much open dark space for that. But that can be true of oh so many places. Is it a real mall? No, but it also doesn't appear that it's in a state of being ready to close any time soon either.

I went to Bath and Body Works there last week and the place isn't nearly as empty as it's made out to be.

I drove around the mall Saturday morning killing a few minutes on my way to AMC to watch The Hobbit. I was surprised at how many cars were in the parking lot. I expected to see maybe 30-40 cars but I would estimate that there were close to 750-800+ vehicles parked around the mall before 10:00 AM.

I went to Bath and Body Works there last week and the place isn't nearly as empty as it's made out to be. The finally consolidated the businesses down to the central core from all the outlying spaces. So yes, it's empty when you first walk in from any door. But there are as many stores in the middle of the thing has hertiage park had on a normal day. Are they all "good" stores, no not really. But there are a few things there that probably won't move out until the place closes...like Bath and Body Works, Victoria's Secret, Zales, etc.

One thing you will notice there now, is that it's 80% families. Almost anyone there is there with their kids and spends at least some time at the play area.

So to all of you complainin that it's crime ridden, i'm not sure you're looking correctly. Would I go there at night? No. Too much open dark space for that. But that can be true of oh so many places. Is it a real mall? No, but it also doesn't appear that it's in a state of being ready to close any time soon either.

The stories of Crossroads being nothing more than a daily deathtrap have been around this board (and this thread) for years. And its never been as bad as the legends. Your characterization is very fair - is it 100% safe, no, of course not, particularly at night, but it isn't this black hole from which light and life is doomed never to escape. Mind you, I'm not one of these folks who foresees any magical Crossroads renaissance, but this notion its seconds away from the wrecking ball isn't accurate, either. Reality is somewhere in the middle.

I drove around the mall Saturday morning killing a few minutes on my way to AMC to watch The Hobbit. I was surprised at how many cars were in the parking lot. I expected to see maybe 30-40 cars but I would estimate that there were close to 750-800+ vehicles parked around the mall before 10:00 AM.

I am not because it is almost Christmas and they need to go Christmas shopping

I went to Bath and Body Works there last week and the place isn't nearly as empty as it's made out to be. The finally consolidated the businesses down to the central core from all the outlying spaces. So yes, it's empty when you first walk in from any door. But there are as many stores in the middle of the thing has hertiage park had on a normal day. Are they all "good" stores, no not really. But there are a few things there that probably won't move out until the place closes...like Bath and Body Works, Victoria's Secret, Zales, etc.

One thing you will notice there now, is that it's 80% families. Almost anyone there is there with their kids and spends at least some time at the play area.

So to all of you complainin that it's crime ridden, i'm not sure you're looking correctly. Would I go there at night? No. Too much open dark space for that. But that can be true of oh so many places. Is it a real mall? No, but it also doesn't appear that it's in a state of being ready to close any time soon either.

Is Journey's still open? Tried calling them but they hang up on me, I need to know so I can get $10 gift card for secret santa at the party tonight

Yes, Journey's is still open as well as Champ's, Foot Action, and Liberty Shoe Warehouse where you can get 3 pairs of shoes for $25!! Great for growing kiddos.

So the mall still has 8 stores that have familiar names... that must mean it is thriving!!!!!

I would love to believe that Crossroads could see a renaissance like Northpark has with boutique stores, but their southside location just won't do it. If a mall were to survive in the southside, it would have to be in Moore or between Moore and Norman. The demographics in the area immediately surrounding the mall do not support a quality shopping center and its in fact getting worse. For that reason, Crossroads' fate is pretty much sealed. Maybe OKC can annex Valley Brook and completely bulldoze it and that would be a start.

So the mall still has 8 stores that have familiar names... that must mean it is thriving!!!!!

Maybe I missed it. Did someone state that it is thriving?

Did they find out what caused the fire to the old Best Buy?

I remember when I was a kid going to Crossroads and spending my allowance on the Lemans arcade, I would always play Marvel vs Capcom 2, or that dance game that was there, I remember going into KB toys there and being afraid of that animal on a ball thing, then I would always get something to drink at Orange Julius, I would also make a trip downstairs to gamestop. I remember the mall had 2 hallmarks if I'm correct? I also remember where Leman's used to be that there used to be people standing by the area surveying people and you could get money.

It's sad what the mall has become so many memories, I hope they do something with the mall if it closes soon like turn it into an office complex or just tear it down completely and build a new shopping center or lifestyle center over it.

Also I went there a month ago and there was very few stores left
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Champ's
Journey's
Eastern Treasures (shockingly)
Liberty Shoes
Bath and Body
Foot Action USA
Victoria's Secret
Fredrick's
Hat World
La Pattrica
Eargazum
Rue 21 - only stores I could think of that are still there

I remember when I was a kid going to Crossroads and spending my allowance on the Lemans arcade, I would always play Marvel vs Capcom 2, or that dance game that was there, I remember going into KB toys there and being afraid of that animal on a ball thing, then I would always get something to drink at Orange Julius, I would also make a trip downstairs to gamestop. I remember the mall had 2 hallmarks if I'm correct? I also remember where Leman's used to be that there used to be people standing by the area surveying people and you could get money.

It's sad what the mall has become so many memories, I hope they do something with the mall if it closes soon like turn it into an office complex or just tear it down completely and build a new shopping center or lifestyle center over it.

Also I went there a month ago and there was very few stores left
Image
Champ's
Journey's
Eastern Treasures (shockingly)
Liberty Shoes
Bath and Body
Foot Action USA
Victoria's Secret
Fredrick's
Hat World
La Pattrica
Eargazum
Rue 21 - only stores I could think of that are still there

I wouldn't be surprised if Eastern Treasures is a cover business for something shady. It has all of the tell-signs of it. Walk in there and try to look at some of the merchandise by touching it and the owner won't be too friendly. If it was a legitimate business, they probably would have moved out of Crossroads by now. You would think they would have at least a basic website as well, especially as a business that has been there for decades, but they have nothing.

The rest of those stores, I've heard, are just waiting on their lease to end and they are out.

Eastern Treasures is STILL there? How do they possibly make enough to stay open? Maybe it really is a front for something else.

Eastern Treasures is STILL there? How do they possibly make enough to stay open? Maybe it really is a front for something else.

It's mostly stuff that few people would even want so I don't know how they would have ever made enough money to pay mall rent. There also used to be borderline-illegal merchandise in there like switch blades and brass knuckles. I haven't been in there in 12 years so maybe I should take a trip to Crossroads to see what they are selling these days.