You say I am uniformed but are there any major anchors at Crossroads? Has that changed or was I uniformed? You did not answer my question on the anchors(Soonerman did but you ignored him). The last gang class I took (Nov 08) talked about Crossroads and its problems with gang activity. Those people who informed me do know what they are talking about unlike you Atlanta159. Keep dreaming about the wonderful world of Crossroads mall where you can do anything but shop at a major retail anchor store. You seem to be oblivious to what is going on around you.

It does not matter, I will be shocked if Crossroads makes it to this time next year. Just curious Atlanta159, do you own a shop or work at Crossroads?

You say I am uniformed but are there any major anchors at Crossroads? Has that changed or was I uniformed? You did not answer my question on the anchors(Soonerman did but you ignored him). The last gang class I took (Nov 08) talked about Crossroads and its problems with gang activity. Those people who informed me do know what they are talking about unlike you Atlanta159. Keep dreaming about the wonderful world of Crossroads mall where you can do anything but shop at a major retail anchor store. You seem to be oblivious to what is going on around you.

It does not matter, I will be shocked if Crossroads makes it to this time next year. Just curious Atlanta159, do you own a shop or work at Crossroads?

I don't think Crossroads is going to make it to the end of the year. But we'll see.

I don't necessarily think the mall will close but.. the days of being a retail destination are over. The remaining retail chains will most likely leave this summer if not after the Christmas Shopping Season.

I think the city should sink a money into it and turn it into a city event center. A simple remodel could change the mall into a meeting and convention center site.

It could be used to host events of all sizes. The spaces could be rented out to people for family events, company meetings, trade shows, concerts, community events, school and church functions, the list goes on.

The mall already has plenty of parking and access to I-35 and I-240.

The building is in place so why not put it to good use.

Should the day come it isn't a mall, perhaps it's next best use might be an Education Center. Put eac of the following in an old anchor: O-Trip, Rose State, OU-OCCE, OCU and then put Phoenix and some other smaller type schools in the twixt and 'tween spaces.

Make a Casino out of it. ;).

:bright_id The whole place can be the new county jail!

:bright_id The whole place can be the new county jail!

Hate to admit it, but that is the best idea so far.

i say, once all the tenants are out, pay 1 dollar to get a bat and take 3 wacks at the building inside or out, once all the glass and stuff is broken, then charge 25 dollars for each wrecking ball swing, might as well make some money tearing it down

Went there today. Pacsun is gone, and so are 1 or 2 more mom-n-pop stores.

i was just in colorado visiting my aunt. she lives across the street from what used to be one of south denver's best shopping malls. even though the mall was still in good shape and still had it's anchor stores, i'm assuming the owners realized that the indoor shopping malls of the 60's and 70's were on their way out. they've begun a redevelopment to turn southglenn mall into a place where people can live, work, and play. i love crossroads mall. i spent many happy hours in the arcade and shopping for back-to-school clothes. it seems that at some point that is coming soon, crossroads will no longer be a viable shopping destination (if that hasn't already happened). i think that crossroads should be redeveloped, possibly in the same way that southglenn has been. i realize that the demographics for the two areas are quite different, but "if you build it, they will come", right? i would love to see a vibrant, upscale, urban community on the site of crossroads mall that south oklahoma city can be proud of. take a look at the link to the new streets of southglenn development that's under construction and tell me what you think. The Streets at SouthGlenn - Home (http://www.shopsouthglenn.com/)

Here's a link to what you're talking about with a picture:

http://www.shopsouthglenn.com/retail/amenities/

Yeah, Denver has several of those old mall/turned new mixed-use developments. That would be a much needed reuse of Crossroads!

Went there today. Pacsun is gone, and so are 1 or 2 more mom-n-pop stores.

Wow that's got to sting... they just put PacSun on their large road signs where the anchors were once displayed. Those signs are not cheap.

Stolen car chase ends in chic mall store
ED DONEY REPORTING
June 10, 2009

OKLAHOMA CITY -- A high-speed chase through north Oklahoma City ends inside Quail Springs Mall, as shoppers are hurried to the back of a store while police come in with guns drawn.

It all began Tuesday morning, when Oklahoma City police say two young, white males were stopped for speeding on Broadway Extension, south of Memorial road. But as an officer approached their window, they hit the gas; which began the high-speed chase.

The two suspects eventually ran inside Quail Springs Mall and bought two t-shirts and a hat at a Pac Sun store to disguise themselves, but a person who noticed the commotion had no problem telling police where to find them.

"They (suspects) had run in and they were all sweaty and in a very big hurry and bought some clothes to change into," says Lt. Michael Norris. "The citizen said 'there's a couple of guys over there changing clothes. That might be who you're looking for.'"

Police say the suspects were arrested while in the process of changing clothes. Their names aren't being released at this time.

Police say the 2009 Ford Edge they were driving was stolen from a dealership in Tulsa. The vehicle's tag was also stolen from a van in Tulsa that was purchased last month.




Crime can happen anywhere!

I went to Crossroads today, Radio Shack and Sonic are gone

two young, white males

Crime? What crime? :ohno:

Stores seem to be dropping like flies. . . Seems like stores would be really concerned about exponential store loss right now. . .

lol..i remember in the 1980s when sooner mall was called sooner fashion mall...i guess they aint so fashionable anymore.

yeah, it breaks my heart to see crossroads on life support like this, i really liked this mall. quail springs was just too far from me,.and penn square mall seemed really awkward..just never had that mall feeling or persona to it.

i know if crossroads mall does die, one of the last anchors to leave will be eastern treasures..that store has been there for eons.

i dont get why there seems to be this renewal trend of if a shopping mall dies out, just replace it a few years later with an open-air mall not too far away. its what happened to heritage park mall...and since its largely known that the area surrounding crossroads mall is blighted,..the replacement outdoor mall for crossroads has been taken about 7 miles south to I-35 and 19th street.

Jc penneys is already relocated there, and i expect other tenants to follow suit.

other may argue that the business of crossroads has even ventured further south to norman where they are building their outdoor mall right along 35 and robinson.

why should anyone have to start up their ignition each and every time after leaving one store to go to the next in an outdoor mall...it defeats the purpose of the convienence that an indoor mall afforded to the shopper: park it in one place and shop all you want at different stores.

Just a few tidbits between dream interpretations..

Sears *was* recruited to take over the Wards space at Crossroads. The problem was that Wards *owned* the space they occupied, which then became entangled in the bankruptcy proceeding that dissolved Wards.

By the time Crossroads management got through the legal entanglements, Sears was having (more) troubles, and was no longer interested even though they did not want to stick around that increasingly unfavorable 44th street location.

Now, both are stuck.

I've mentioned this before, but I've heard rumors for years that the *early* years of Crossroads management were entangled in warring factions among the owners which had less to do with Crossroads itself than the war of between the owners. Years of neglect finally took their toll.


what irks me like crazy is why Kohl's couldnt have located in Crossroads right after Wards demise?, because Kohl's came into the local scene right around late 2001, early 2002.

i dont think im out of line by thinking Kohl's is arrogant

mireaux, most of us still call it Sooner Fashion Mall!

The problem is, outside of Chic-Fil-A, that everytime we lose a store inside the mall, or the area around the mall deteorates more and more, and we lose businesses there, they will go north, or south of us. This gives small towns like Moore, or up on northside better chances than southside has.

Southside is filling up with bingo hall laden plazas, and now a dying mall. Stinks to hear about Sonic, and now Radio Shack.

I still hold onto hope that the mall will either get revived, or they tear it down and put a better shopping district in there, and all the surrounding area. Especially filling up the areas with downright nasty broke looking parking lots.

I don't want to lose more and more to Moore and northside, because I live on southside and want to see it flourish like a small town seemingly is. No reason to lose all the revenue.

what irks me like crazy is why Kohl's couldnt have located in Crossroads right after Wards demise?, because Kohl's came into the local scene right around late 2001, early 2002.

i dont think im out of line by thinking Kohl's is arrogant
That isn't how Kohl's operates, I have never seen one inside a mall, they have all pretty much been stand alone stores in big-box malls. There are many reasons for not locating in a traditional mall, the main one is probably the lease and percentage of sales that a traditional mall would take (at the time of their expansion) versus what the lease arrangement is on a big-box mall which has traditionally been much cheaper property. The traditional malls have done a bunch of things as well that has sealed their own fate, one sided leases are the biggest of them.

I never understood why Sonic spent the $$ building into Crossroads in the first place. Radio Shack has been gone for some time; it was gone the last time I was in Crossroads, and that was at least several weeks ago.

I have nothing on which to base this other than a bit of introspection, but I have to believe that since we have some concrete info on Chick-Fil-A readying to build @ I-240 and Western, I would predict the Crossroads location would close shortly after the new one opens.

Is Candyopolis still open? I'm scratching my head trying to think of what's left; Orange Julius was literally packing stuff up into boxes the last time I was out there, and the signs were being taken down. I guess there's still the Hallmark store on the 2nd floor, and that spa on the first floor, but its getting harder to remember anything of value out there.

Sad.

I never understood why Sonic spent the $$ building into Crossroads in the first place. Radio Shack has been gone for some time; it was gone the last time I was in Crossroads, and that was at least several weeks ago.

I have nothing on which to base this other than a bit of introspection, but I have to believe that since we have some concrete info on Chick-Fil-A readying to build @ I-240 and Western, I would predict the Crossroads location would close shortly after the new one opens.

Is Candyopolis still open? I'm scratching my head trying to think of what's left; Orange Julius was literally packing stuff up into boxes the last time I was out there, and the signs were being taken down. I guess there's still the Hallmark store on the 2nd floor, and that spa on the first floor, but its getting harder to remember anything of value out there.

Sad.

Yes, Candyopolis is still open, there's still Spencers' Gift, Hat World, Zales, Gyros, Sports stuff, Hot Topic, WaldenBooks, and other stores

Who they say remains
CrossRoads Mall (http://www.shopcrossroadsmall.com/?task=storedirectory)

That isn't how Kohl's operates, I have never seen one inside a mall, they have all pretty much been stand alone stores in big-box malls. There are many reasons for not locating in a traditional mall, the main one is probably the lease and percentage of sales that a traditional mall would take (at the time of their expansion) versus what the lease arrangement is on a big-box mall which has traditionally been much cheaper property. The traditional malls have done a bunch of things as well that has sealed their own fate, one sided leases are the biggest of them.

I think There are some Kohl's up north that are in malls.

I think There are some Kohl's up north that are in malls.
There may be since they started out of Milwaukee and have had a much longer presence in some of the Upper Midwest markets. Everything that I have seen in this part of the country is their typical stand alone in a big-box mall type of building.

Who they say remains
CrossRoads Mall (http://www.shopcrossroadsmall.com/?task=storedirectory)

That's still a lot of stores. 93 by my count.

That's still a lot of stores. 93 by my count.

Things like AMC, Residence Inn, Texas Roadhouse, and the Crossroads Security Office certainly don't count as stores, and at least a few of the others are just kiosks. And on top of that, the majority of the stores there are locally owned. I think locally owned businesses are great (and I do actively try to buy locally as much as I can)...but the majority of the stores being low-rent locally owned shops isn't a good sign for a mall. And a lot of the chain stores that are still there are high-margin stores that can get by for a while in a "dead" mall...ie jewelry and athletic shoe stores.

I'll bet Hot Topic will be the next to bolt. I'm suprised American Eagle is still there.

I'll bet Hot Topic will be the next to bolt. I'm suprised American Eagle is still there.

Those stores seem to be doing fairly good with traffic the last several times I've been there over the last couple of months.

People don't realize that traffic inside the mall is fairly good.

My guess is that Victoria's Secret will close next.

I went to Crossroads Thursday because I was in the area...it really wasn't that dead. There were people/families there....shopped at VS. They had really good selection of merchandise (compared to Sooner Mall), which leads me to believe that not many people are buying things there.

They do have a nice selection, no long lines and clerks who are happy to help you.

My guess is that as leases set to expire there will be more closures, some stores may be staying open because it is cheaper for them to than to terminate leases.

I don't know how anyone can even remotely think there's any life left in this mall. I mean, all 4 major anchors are gone! Come on!

At least when the bulldoze the building, they won't have to go very far to the landfill!

At least when the bulldoze the building, they won't have to go very far to the landfill!

Droll very Droll......

crossroads might be the new landfill location the old landfill is getting pretty high and filled..then at the old landfill build a mall at the top and call it mountain view mall

i thought crossroads was a land fill.. i mean, it's full of trash right?

i thought crossroads was a land fill.. i mean, it's full of trash right?

burrnnnn! :o

crossroads might be the new landfill location the old landfill is getting pretty high and filled..then at the old landfill build a mall at the top and call it mountain view mall

The idea of building a new crossroads on the hill is not a bad idea initself....kuddos

i thought crossroads was a land fill.. i mean, it's full of trash right?

YUK! YUK! I bet you get alot of laughs at the nursing home. I think I may you know you aren't you the opening act for Bingo with Walt at Epworth Villa.

oneforone, That was uncalled for how dare you say he plays bingo with walt when he actually plays bingo with Harold and Clay.

Well now this is interesting.

So I've mentioned here on this thread, a few times, about my dreams of seeing this mall redone.

Some here think it was random dreaming, or wishful thinking.

I was drawing out my dream from late last year today while at work, and showing it to mu aunt.

She laughed at me for a bit, and decided to call the mall. I don't know why she would, as this is a dream. It isn't like the mall could answer any questions my dreams come to tell me.

Or can they?

She then calls the mall, and asks are you remodelling the mall (again I am facepalming, as something like that would be too soon,) and they reply, "How did you know that?" She then clarified, "so you are remodelling the mall." To which they supposedly said, "The new owners have plans."

So yeah, who knows. I cannot believed she called them based on my dream. I would've rathered see first if it happens, or maybe I was dreaming about a mall I haven't been to yet, but looked so familiar.

In anycase, she called and that convo took place. She hung up the phone and looked at me wierd, as if I was some fruitloop for seeing what could potentially be an awesome looking mall.

I think what came from that convo from my aunt and whoever she spoke to at the mall is interesting to say the least.

I was at Crossroads for a bit on Friday afternoon; didn't venture too far into it, went in the door by Eyemasters & just went inside far enough to go to the AT&T store. It looks like the Journey's shoe store on that first corner is going away...it was full of boxes & sale signs. Went in to Hot Topic, their stock was pretty slim...the store seemed bare compared to what I see at other malls. I asked the clerk if they were going out of business anytime soon & she said that they were going to hang on for a while, as she put it "wait things out." She said that because the mall has such a high vacancy that there's a lot more leniency with them when they do their special promotions (CD release parties, etc). No one around to complain if the noise gets too loud or the crowd spills out into the mall. There were quite a few people around, just a noticable lack of places to shop :(

And for the record, I didn't see any gangs :P

There will be a few stores that hang on for a good long while. Besides it is not like takes more than a few days to shut down a mall store.

In dire situations they will just transfer the stock to other stores and remove the fixtures. The employees can be moved to others stores in the area. I can almost bet the majority of the stores in Crossroads have no more than 5-10 employees.

Most of the chain stores are waiting until sales or foot traffic drops below a set number.

megax11, you give us hope for the future of Crossroads Mall.

Scan your drawings and post on here. Give us an insight on the facelift.

Well like I said, sometimes I have dreams that feel so real, they come true. Actually more often than not.

I don't have a scanner sadly, but I will state again what I see in my dreams.

Dream 1: I was walking in from outside, near the picadilly wing. The exterior of the mall was being rebuilt a bit, to be a more rounded structure, instead of square. I remember looking inside one of the wings which was closed for remodel. It was all gray and new looking. So I went in the picadilly entrance, and saw stores I had never seen before in any OKC malls. I remember looking at the walls.

They were white/black marble, with green/white marble pillars. Very-very fancy looking. I then looked at the floor, and it was four squares that were white/black marble, with a green/white marble diamond per every four squares.

I remember that wing looking very kick ass.

Dream 2: This dream started out like the dreams you know would be fake, but I ended up in what is the center of the mall, sort of near Chic-fil-A, so I didn't look behind me. This is when the dream felt real.

I remember standing on carpet. Either light beige, or brownish, and the stores had a feel that they were cut shorter, and were more wide stores. Around this area was a guest information booth, or security booth (no longer behind an escalator.)

A friend was with me. Ironically, I had told this friend recently about my dream. However, in my dream I told him "see I told you my dreams come true. This is what I told you about before, and showed him one of the pillars, as we were walking by."

So that's that. I hope the dream comes true. Then maybe the empty lots surrounding the mall will get fixed up with all kinds of businesses. At least the mall would be rejuvenated. Who knows.

All I know is I've had a dream twice, where I have seen this mall redone, and both dreams were consistent.

Guess only time will tell. Here's hoping. I do find it odd my aunt decided to call, and they told her that some new owners are about to take over and do something with the place, so that was some news I was posting earlier (or potential news anyway.)

i can't say i've ever dreamed about a remodeled crossroads mall. . . lol but those are interesting plans, especially considering crossroads comment of "we have plans". . .

I'm a bit surprised that stores in Crossroads that have a fairly big customer base (American Eagle and possibly others) don't pack up and move to Moore. When I went into Crossroads not too long ago, it looked like a lot of the people in the mall were carrying around shopping bags from AE. I think they'd do *really* well in Moore...it's a suburb with plenty of high school kids that probably go to Norman or Penn Square to shop there and similar stores anyway. And I know that AE and similar stores don't typically locate in strip malls, but stores that traditionally locate in malls are increasingly locating in other types of shopping centers. (for instance in Stillwater there is a strip mall that has Buckle, AE, Claire's, and a few other "mall" stores.)

That's odd because I thought the mall didn't sell at the auction a month or so ago.

crossroads might be the new landfill location the old landfill is getting pretty high and filled..then at the old landfill build a mall at the top and call it mountain view mall

if they make it into another landfill, (just like that one off of 240 and bryant), lets hope they do it right this time..it needs a lot more of those high steel thin towers with the everlasting flame burning high atop it.

...always thought those were kinda cool, kinda gives off a dark apocalyptic feel at nighttime...akin to something youd see on a scene of "Bladerunner".

I'm a bit surprised that stores in Crossroads that have a fairly big customer base (American Eagle and possibly others) don't pack up and move to Moore. When I went into Crossroads not too long ago, it looked like a lot of the people in the mall were carrying around shopping bags from AE. I think they'd do *really* well in Moore...it's a suburb with plenty of high school kids that probably go to Norman or Penn Square to shop there and similar stores anyway. And I know that AE and similar stores don't typically locate in strip malls, but stores that traditionally locate in malls are increasingly locating in other types of shopping centers. (for instance in Stillwater there is a strip mall that has Buckle, AE, Claire's, and a few other "mall" stores.)

i dont think the american eagle is gonna fly south to moore til winter time..right now, it likes its big empty nest inside crossroads mall. :LolLolLol

Well again, these two dreams are just that, dreams.

However, there are more times that not, when my dreams come true.

To have two dreams where I am in different sections of the same mall, with the same look as one another, it probably means something.

They did say there are new owners, and they have plans, so it's wait and see I guess. If this is a mall that I haven't been to yet, in another state (which doesn't add up,) then I hope they tear this mall down, and construct some HUGE strip mall from it.

I hope my dreams about this comes true. Which begs the question, why would I have dreams about that mall, when there are so many other things to dream about? Sometimes these real feeling dreams just come to me.

By the way, in an earlier post I mentioned how I had a dream last December where I was holding my newborn daughter in my bed, only to find out months later I was having a daughter. Some here said that was a 50/50 shot and I just got lucky.

However, what those people don't know is that she looked a certain way in my dream. Low and behold she looks now, like she looked in my dream, so it is only a matter of time until I have that deja'vu where I am holding her in my bed.

Gotta love dreams sometimes. Specially when many come true, and you forsee things. Even the smallest.

EDIT: By the way... Isn't it sort of selfish to say AE should pack up and come to Moore? Doesn't southside deserve things, or do residents of surrounding areas just want everything for themselves? It isn't like Moore doesn't have enough already, plus they are getting a super Target, PLUS a Toys R Us Superstore (the first in Oklahoma.) What else do you want before it is enough? People shouldn't think about themselves and how they can benefit while others flatline living in areas not as fortunate. Shame-shame...

Again, can you please dream someone will give me a free ferrari already?

that's about as random as that time c-3po bought me a jean jacket using pepsi points. -M

i had a vision not a dream lol that crossroads mall holds the 4 largest haunted houses in the united states, this year. In the old steve and barrys store, they will call it asylum two stories of pure terror, in the old dillards building they will call it the terror mansion, the elevator will take you to the top and the top two floors are walking and the bottom is a dungen ride. th old macys building is a night of the living dead them, with graveyards a forest and other stuff like that. in the old jcpennies building, it will be called the house of horror, start off by entering the house of wax and see all the traditional horror movie characters, but one of them is not wax, then enter the black hole, and soon enter in the hall of clowns, some of them are fake but some are alive, then enter the mirror maze to see for yourself you are not the only one in that maze. it would be great to make it a halloween destination all indoors, and great access, we can draw them up from dallas an little rock, kc, etc

Halloween is my favorite time of year, and I love haunted houses despite not getting scared, so that would be a good idea.

that's about as random as that time c-3po bought me a jean jacket using pepsi points. -M


Damn - wonder if they'll take some of these S&H green stamps I've got?

I'm a bit surprised that stores in Crossroads that have a fairly big customer base (American Eagle and possibly others) don't pack up and move to Moore. When I went into Crossroads not too long ago, it looked like a lot of the people in the mall were carrying around shopping bags from AE. I think they'd do *really* well in Moore...it's a suburb with plenty of high school kids that probably go to Norman or Penn Square to shop there and similar stores anyway. And I know that AE and similar stores don't typically locate in strip malls, but stores that traditionally locate in malls are increasingly locating in other types of shopping centers. (for instance in Stillwater there is a strip mall that has Buckle, AE, Claire's, and a few other "mall" stores.)

The Stillwater store was always the highest grossing in the district; while being the only AE for 45 miles helps, just goes to show it could thrive in the right strip mall

Damn - wonder if they'll take some of these S&H green stamps I've got?

wow, first pepsi points..and now S&H green stamps.....i wonder if i can cash in my unused kool-aid points.

was saving those bastards up to get a video game and never quite collected enough.