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Pete
02-27-2009, 01:27 PM
All the original department stores at Crossroads (and most malls) were owned by the retail chains themselves.

Generals64
02-27-2009, 01:47 PM
All the original department stores at Crossroads (and most malls) were owned by the retail chains themselves.
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Macy's owns the building for certain:...........

Soonerman
02-27-2009, 11:11 PM
Jesseda, I may be the one istaken. I'm under the impression, again perhaps mistaken, that the S&B space is not separately owned. But I was mistaken about the Easter bunny in my youth as well. When I grew up I learned he wasn't really color blind, he just had no sense of asthetics. 8^)

Yeah I heard Crossroads bought the S&B building from Montgomery Ward.

ssandedoc
02-27-2009, 11:31 PM
I drove by Crossroads yesterday and you know when you enter in from the Toys R Us side? Well, as one of the anchors they now have Pac Sun listed on the sign.

Thunder
02-28-2009, 05:54 AM
Okay, so this is what we should be expecting from Pac Sun.

PacSun.com - Skate & Surf Clothing, Shoes and Accessories (http://shop.pacsun.com/home.jsp)

southgirl
02-28-2009, 07:22 AM
Okay, so this is what we should be expecting from Pac Sun.

PacSun.com - Skate & Surf Clothing, Shoes and Accessories (http://shop.pacsun.com/home.jsp)

It is good to see Crossroads maybe on some sort of comeback.

scootinger
02-28-2009, 11:28 AM
Okay, so this is what we should be expecting from Pac Sun.

PacSun.com - Skate & Surf Clothing, Shoes and Accessories (http://shop.pacsun.com/home.jsp)

Pacsun already has a store at the mall, and I think they put the sign up because it's one of the few "good" chain stores that they have left. They wouldn't be locating into one of the department store spaces. The question now is how long it will be before Pacsun jumps ship as well.

Bobby821
02-28-2009, 02:32 PM
I was at Crossroads today and on the backside directly in front of where S&B was are 2 coleman semi trailers. While inside i peeked through the bars at the storefront and saw nothing in there was dark just like when S&B left it. When i left I drove around to the front of the mall that faces I-240 and there were signs made of banner type material that said Coleman on them and then directly under those were signs that read Big sale march 7-8th or something along those dates, so it would appear they are just using the space for a short term coleman flea market type sale then it will be empty again. I saw no signs of a coleman store going in that location.

Thunder
02-28-2009, 02:35 PM
Bobby, maybe the "Big Sale March 7-8th" is meant to be the Grand Opening Sale?

workman45
02-28-2009, 06:14 PM
Is there anything but hot air to the rumors that one of the indian tribes is thinking of purchasing the mall?

CuatrodeMayo
02-28-2009, 10:55 PM
Bass Pro could move to that store and Ikea could take their place.


I wish.

Thunder
02-28-2009, 11:05 PM
Bass Pro move into Crossroads? lol I would think the proper word to be expand.

They will not give up that nice store in Bricktown.

kevinpate
03-01-2009, 07:38 AM
My guess would be Coleman Outlet is doing a limited time sale at C-Roads. As much bad news as the place has endured, if someone was moving into a large space, it doesn't seem folks like Steve, or his south side compatriots, or the evening talking heads, would be in the dark several days after rumors were floating.

jbrown84
03-01-2009, 08:47 PM
Coleman does have factory outlet stores. They are mostly in outlet malls, but the company is based in Wichita so it wouldn't be a huge surprise if they located here.

kevinpate
03-02-2009, 06:21 AM
Drove by yesterday on my way into work.

This does appear to be a typical temporary sales event, the dates on the vinyl banners read March 4 - 8.

If you're into camping, or have friends and fams who are, there will likely be some decent deals to be had for upcoming trips, birthdays, holidays, just because days, etc.

Martin
03-02-2009, 06:46 AM
that's a shame... i was hoping that it would've been a new, permanent fixture of the mall.

-M

grantgeneral78
03-02-2009, 07:31 AM
To bad they would not give a good lease to north pole city to move there, that would be a good fit for both of them.

kevinpate
03-02-2009, 08:00 AM
I don't know if Coleman would ever consider placing a permanent outlet here, but I'd be happy to see it if they wanted locate here.

oneforone
03-02-2009, 11:04 AM
Coleman may be using this sale as a way to test the market for a future store.

Jesseda
03-02-2009, 11:18 AM
that would be intersting if a tribe bought the mall.. large casino with mall and hotel already together.. hmmmm It would be huge...

metro
03-02-2009, 11:22 AM
Coleman may be using this sale as a way to test the market for a future store.

such as the outlet mall coming to I-40 and council area.

workman45
03-02-2009, 11:24 AM
This is one situation where things could happen quickly. Financing for such a project could be more easily arranged than for a more standard business venture.

jbrown84
03-03-2009, 12:54 PM
Coleman may be using this sale as a way to test the market for a future store.

I was thinking the same.

Smokin Joe
03-05-2009, 08:33 PM
I went to the Coleman sale yesterday.. Not bad.. OK I guess... Nothing really.. I have most of it... and some things I could get at the Army Navy better and for less... But anyways... They have a bunch of coolers, tents, sleeping bags.. Camp cookers, and camp cookware.... Etc... etc.. But they did have some good prices on some things...

also... Hot Spot Pizza and grill has opened and is delivering food out of the mall.. Pizza, sammiches... Burgers and fries.... Just a late night food delivery joint...

Joe

Steve
03-05-2009, 08:35 PM
Sorry I didn't pipe in sooner: it's a temporary sales event.

Soonerman
03-05-2009, 10:37 PM
I'm just wondering Does Crossroads own the JCPenney building?

Bobby821
03-06-2009, 09:02 AM
Sorry I didn't pipe in sooner: it's a temporary sales event.

Told Ya folks it was Temp..

Bobby821
03-06-2009, 09:04 AM
I'm just wondering Does Crossroads own the JCPenney building?

I believe they own everything but the old John A Brown/Sanger Harris/Foley's/Macy's Building...

Thunder
03-06-2009, 10:49 AM
I don't think Crossroads own the Dillards building.

Pete
03-06-2009, 12:14 PM
Dillard's, Macy's and Steve & Barry's all own their buildings plus a good chunk of the adjacent parking lots and land underneath.

I think the mall ownership bought back the old JC Penney property.

Soonerman
03-06-2009, 11:14 PM
They oughta let North Pole City lease the Penneys space.

Thunder
03-06-2009, 11:17 PM
I think the space would be too huge.

oneforone
03-07-2009, 04:06 AM
I don't see much of anything moving to Crossroads other than temporary sales or trade shows.

North Pole City will most likely move into a vacated big box store or they could build a free standing store off of I-40, Memorial or I-240.

scootinger
03-07-2009, 04:48 PM
I don't see much of anything moving to Crossroads other than temporary sales or trade shows.

North Pole City will most likely move into a vacated big box store or they could build a free standing store off of I-40, Memorial or I-240.

Why not one of the shuttered Circuit City stores around town? They could even keep the last four letters on the sign :P

Soonerman
03-07-2009, 10:22 PM
Why not one of the shuttered Circuit City stores around town? They could even keep the last four letters on the sign :P

Hey now thats a good idea.

oustud7
03-13-2009, 09:20 PM
This is a very short article and is about 4 weeks old. The one interesting fact I think was to report that Crossroads Mall's occupancy rate is right at 60%.

Midwest Mall Properties' Crossroads Mall Falls into Receivership - CoStar Group (http://www.costar.com/News/Article.aspx?id=F03E1DBC61EBAD3CCA5DFF48F1B6BB45)

kevinpate
03-14-2009, 05:53 AM
> occupancy rate is right at 60%.

Makes me wonder if the former anchor space owned by others may be excluded from the calculation. Hard for me to wrap my head around the notion that the big anchors only comprise 40%, or, less of the mall space.

Thunder
03-14-2009, 06:35 AM
10% each of the anchor stores, I think.

1 to 3% each of the stores inside the main mall, I think.

Edit to add:

Well Kevin, there are empty spaces in the store, so 60% sounds bout right.

plmccordj
03-14-2009, 12:18 PM
Why write off the Mall and just develop that area? After all these years there still are no homes around the mall. Just go across the freeway (I-240) and you have a whole square mile of empty land behind the Budweiser plant. Is there any reason why that land sits dormant and undeveloped for all these years? I would think that would be some of the most valuable land in South Oklahoma City. It seems like this city has a lot of undeveloped land in the core that could be very valuable. You have Eastern to Bryant from I-240 all the way up to SE 29th Street that has very little in there with the exception of the land fill at 74th and Metro Tech. Then you have the wasted land to the South of Trosper Park with acres and acres of land with nothing on it. I see this area with tons of potential if people would change their view of it. If they can wipe out miles of land in the name of Core to Shore, anyone could see what a waste of land this several mile stretch is. It is no wonder that Crossroads never became anything near its potential when whoever zoned this side of town just left it to go dormant. It seems like whoever is in charge is content to let the N.W. side of the city grow to Denver while ignoring the core of the city. Sorry to whine but I have lived on this side of town for many years and it is very clear how this side of town has become the step child of the metro while the N.W. side is so disproportionate to the rest of the city. It seems like with the exception of Moore and the development on Sooner Road, the entire South East side has been neglected. How about filling in the holes? I may be completely off base but that is how it appears over here.

oneforone
03-14-2009, 12:40 PM
Why write off the Mall and just develop that area? After all these years there still are no homes around the mall. Just go across the freeway (I-240) and you have a whole square mile of empty land behind the Budweiser plant. Is there any reason why that land sits dormant and undeveloped for all these years? I would think that would be some of the most valuable land in South Oklahoma City. It seems like this city has a lot of undeveloped land in the core that could be very valuable. You have Eastern to Bryant from I-240 all the way up to SE 29th Street that has very little in there with the exception of the land fill at 74th and Metro Tech. Then you have the wasted land to the South of Trosper Park with acres and acres of land with nothing on it. I see this area with tons of potential if people would change their view of it. If they can wipe out miles of land in the name of Core to Shore, anyone could see what a waste of land this several mile stretch is. It is no wonder that Crossroads never became anything near its potential when whoever zoned this side of town just left it to go dormant. It seems like whoever is in charge is content to let the N.W. side of the city grow to Denver while ignoring the core of the city. Sorry to whine but I have lived on this side of town for many years and it is very clear how this side of town has become the step child of the metro while the N.W. side is so disproportionate to the rest of the city. It seems like with the exception of Moore and the development on Sooner Road, the entire South East side has been neglected. How about filling in the holes? I may be completely off base but that is how it appears over here.

Once the Heart Hospital opens I am sure you will see more development occur. People will need places to eat sleep and shop while their loved ones are in the hospital.

kevinpate
03-14-2009, 07:05 PM
Aren't they saving some of that land south of 240 for Mount Trash, the sequel?

Patrick
03-15-2009, 04:01 AM
Actually, the mall owns the old jc penney space and the steve and barry's space. the mall aquired the steve and barry's space after wards went defunct.

And a lot of malls now own the anchor spaces. Simon owns all of the anchor spots at penn square.

Generals64
03-15-2009, 08:44 PM
Why write off the Mall and just develop that area? After all these years there still are no homes around the mall. Just go across the freeway (I-240) and you have a whole square mile of empty land behind the Budweiser plant. Is there any reason why that land sits dormant and undeveloped for all these years? I would think that would be some of the most valuable land in South Oklahoma City. It seems like this city has a lot of undeveloped land in the core that could be very valuable. You have Eastern to Bryant from I-240 all the way up to SE 29th Street that has very little in there with the exception of the land fill at 74th and Metro Tech. Then you have the wasted land to the South of Trosper Park with acres and acres of land with nothing on it. I see this area with tons of potential if people would change their view of it. If they can wipe out miles of land in the name of Core to Shore, anyone could see what a waste of land this several mile stretch is. It is no wonder that Crossroads never became anything near its potential when whoever zoned this side of town just left it to go dormant. It seems like whoever is in charge is content to let the N.W. side of the city grow to Denver while ignoring the core of the city. Sorry to whine but I have lived on this side of town for many years and it is very clear how this side of town has become the step child of the metro while the N.W. side is so disproportionate to the rest of the city. It seems like with the exception of Moore and the development on Sooner Road, the entire South East side has been neglected. How about filling in the holes? I may be completely off base but that is how it appears over here.

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Check out what you are talking about. No a whole lot of people would build a new Home on the Railroad track or around a Railroad Switch Station. Go out there late some night and you'll understand....Why not figure out a way to open parts of the Crossroads Mall into something such Dallas has in the Apparel Mart? OKC has NOTHING to be ashamed of or afraid of. They are right on I-35...Not far from the Crossroads of AMERICA. (I-35/I-40)...

Jesseda
03-16-2009, 01:48 PM
i think it would be great if something like incredible pizza type place took over one of the anchor stores.

grantgeneral78
03-16-2009, 08:49 PM
i think it would be great if something like incredible pizza type place took over one of the anchor stores.

What is incredible pizza?

southernskye
03-16-2009, 08:53 PM
What is incredible pizza?

Incredible Pizza=Chuckie Cheese=Gattitown= crappy pizza with a game room

grantgeneral78
03-16-2009, 09:00 PM
Incredible Pizza=Chuckie Cheese=Gattitown= crappy pizza with a game room

LOL ok nuff said.

Jesseda
03-17-2009, 08:11 AM
well let me make it a bit better for you, indoor go-carts, a mini bowling alley, lazer tag arena, indoor mini golf, virtual reality rides,a movie theater that shows kids movies, some indoor carnival rides,, etc, something ona grand scale

metro
03-17-2009, 08:37 AM
Incredible Pizza Company - Enjoy our huge all-you-can-eat buffet, indoor Go-Kart Races, Bumper Cars, Route 66 Mini Golf, a huge video game arcade with prizes, Bowling, and more! (http://www.incrediblepizza.com/)

oneforone
03-17-2009, 08:43 AM
Incredible Pizza=Chuckie Cheese=Gattitown= crappy pizza with a game room


Well the food at Incredible is not as bad as Chuckie Cheese. It is about the same level of quality as your average all you can eat buffet pizza (IE: CiCi's Pizza, Peter Piper Pizza). Your not going to find gourmet food at places like this.

metro
03-17-2009, 09:08 AM
I wouldn't say it's that bad, it's better than CiCi's, and they also have much more options including pasta and potato bars.

grantgeneral78
03-17-2009, 01:34 PM
If they could do that and beef up security, all the families would start trickling back towards crossroads IMO.

Jesseda
03-17-2009, 02:12 PM
exactly, an maybe if toysrus moves into crossroads mall, it will bring back the families for sure.. my niece use to work for the toysrus by crossroads not the past christmas but the one before, she said the building is in bad shape and the plumbing is pretty much shot, so maybe if they get a good deal crossraods can lease one of the levels of the old department stores to them. I think it would be neat to see a toysrus in a mall

oneforone
03-17-2009, 02:23 PM
I think Toys R' Us would more than likely move to Moore, MWC or I-240 and Penn before they would move to the mall.

I anticipate a move by them and Best Buy before the end of the year.

Jesseda
03-17-2009, 02:29 PM
i know ones going into moore, but i believe its going to be small, it seems they are making stores smaller these days take the bestbuy in moore for example, and look at the newer petsmarts, i miss the old petsmart when it was in the shopping center on 240 behind weokie credit union, that petsmart was huge compared to what they are now, either way south okc needs a toy store i think toysrus will be rebuild somewhere on 240 as well as have one in moore. South okc metro area is still growing pretty fast so i think we can have 2 or 3 (including the one in norman)toysrus's in the south metro

grantgeneral78
03-17-2009, 09:35 PM
pretty soon okc,moore,norman will just be all
fused together like the soutside of okc and moore is now

ssandedoc
03-18-2009, 01:40 AM
I went to Crossroads today, pretty depressing stuff. It was around noon, springbreak time and the mall was really dead maybe 50-100 customers inside if that. Walking around several stores were gone or closed, even the convenience store! It's only a matter of time before the hammer falls hard on Crossroads.

theparkman81
03-18-2009, 04:36 PM
The last time I been to Crossroads, yeah it looked very depressing, I hate to see a mall like Crossroads close, It was my favorite mall to go to, now I like to go to Quail Springs.

SoonerDave
03-18-2009, 05:25 PM
Incredible Pizza=Chuckie Cheese=Gattitown= crappy pizza with a game room

OBJECTION!!!

Of the various incarnations of these game-n-pizza places, I've found Incredible Pizza to be the best of any of them...maybe not world championship caliber, but miles better than the congealed carbohydrates they serve up at CiCi's or chuck-e-sneeze

grantgeneral78
03-18-2009, 09:11 PM
I went to Crossroads today, pretty depressing stuff. It was around noon, springbreak time and the mall was really dead maybe 50-100 customers inside if that. Walking around several stores were gone or closed, even the convenience store! It's only a matter of time before the hammer falls hard on Crossroads.

Sheesh that is almost flea marketish.......that just sucks!