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    Interesting article in today's DO regarding selling wine in Grocery Stores. It appears that the OKC Chamber of Commerce prefers to get an initiative petition started versus the current task force committee they currently have started. It appears that Costco wants to open up shop in Oklahoma with "well above wages" based upon Oklahoma standards, however they want the liquor laws changed so they are able to open in Oklahoma. Trader Joes is considering opening stores as well, however, it comes down to the States "archaic liquor laws. I believe an initiative petition should get started and let the voters and the will of the people decide either for or against. What are your thoughts? People in Oklahoma generally complain about lack of good stores and retail options available, maybe a good start is to sign the petition once it gets started.





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    I have no faith in our legislature to do the right thing. I would therefore be happy to sign a petition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by progressiveboy View Post
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    Some wage competition in our retailers would be fantastic.

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    This was brought up by someone in an older thread about our "archaic" laws. They mentioned that Costco has locations with laws similar to ours. What about Trader Joes? While I can understand it being an added high profit revenue stream for them, if they can make it work in other places why not here. In other words, why rule Oklahoma out?

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    Only one can be at fault. Costco. They can whine all they want, but they are to be blamed for not opening a location in Oklahoma. Liquor are not required to be an established successful business. Look at the numerous businesses in Oklahoma thriving without liquor sales. Wake up, Costco! Get your butts to Oklahoma and become established. Only then will the push for a change in Oklahoma's liquor laws can be likely to be changed with the strong presence of supporting businesses. Enough said.

    (Feel free to forward this post to Costco Administration.)

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    The only two national stores we are missing here in OKC for me! Love them both a ton and hope they come here soon.

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    The local market is saturated with similar types of stores.
    There more than a few empty buildings that these types of stores once occupied, we don’t need any more empty box stores.
    If it takes changing our liquor laws to make them profitable something seems wrong with the way they do business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou48A View Post
    If it takes changing our liquor laws to make them profitable something seems wrong with the way they do business.
    Why?

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    Default Re: Costco "Considering" Oklahoma, however?

    There is only one similar store to Costco already in Oklahoma, that is Sam's Club. I am a member at both.

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    Sad it's going to be fall of NEXT year before it might get on ballot

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou48A View Post
    The local market is saturated with similar types of stores.
    There more than a few empty buildings that these types of stores once occupied, we don’t need any more empty box stores.
    If it takes changing our liquor laws to make them profitable something seems wrong with the way they do business.
    OK does NOT have anything similar to Costco, and don't say SAMs, not close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celebrator View Post
    The only two national stores we are missing here in OKC for me! Love them both a ton and hope they come here soon.
    Trader Joes announced last week they are scouting OKC locations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midtowner View Post
    Why?
    I may have missed it but I haven’t heard of any of the other big box stores wanting our liquor laws changed.
    Evidently they do well enough to make a reasonably profit in Oklahoma.

    The better question is why Costco can’t make an acceptable profit inn Oklahoma without liquor sales?

    As with any business the margins of profitability have a lot to do with the way the business is operated.
    If we change our liquor laws the other big stores will start selling it and probably eliminate any Costco advantage.
    Besides... I can’t believe that liquor, wine and beer sales would make up a very large percentage of their total sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metro View Post
    OK does NOT have anything similar to Costco, and don't say SAMs, not close.
    Maybe I’m wrong? I have an open mind. What makes Costco different?
    What can I buy at Costco that I can’t already buy somewhere in the OKC area?

    Thanks

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    Another law needs to be changed as well. In most all the other states if not all of them, places like Costco, Sam's Sears, etc can sell eyeglasses. Here you have to go to an optical shop or your own optician or ophthalmologist to get your glasses. I saw some beautiful frames I liked at Costco recently, and bought some previous glasses at a Sam's in Joplin. If we are going to get some of the shopping choices like we want like Costco etc, we are going to have to change the laws to be able to sell alcohol at places other than package stores and buy glasses at regular retailers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerQueen View Post
    Another law needs to be changed as well. In most all the other states if not all of them, places like Costco, Sam's Sears, etc can sell eyeglasses. Here you have to go to an optical shop or your own optician or ophthalmologist to get your glasses. I saw some beautiful frames I liked at Costco recently, and bought some previous glasses at a Sam's in Joplin. If we are going to get some of the shopping choices like we want like Costco etc, we are going to have to change the laws to be able to sell alcohol at places other than package stores and buy glasses at regular retailers.
    Wine yes, but I'll leave my eyesight to the professionals.

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    Might be getting a bit off topic. I think the best reason to change our laws is perception. I've spent much time out of state, and know most places I've been have had complicated and strange liquor laws. The whole low point beer thing is really what we need to get rid of. I think if we allow grocery/convenience stores to sell normal beer/wine, and allow liquor stores to refrigerate their beer then everyone wins but the distributors. No reason to change our laws that exclude national liquor store chains. Low point beer doesn't taste good because brewing is an art, and alcohol content is a side effect. Final argument is: If i go to the liquor store and buy a six pack of beer i know how too cool it quickly (ice and salt). There's a good chance that this beer is skunky from inconsistent temperatures. I could just as easily buy a bottle of everclear and drink it on ice and get really drunk.

    My real point is that 3.2 beer tastes like crap, outsiders agree, and does nothing to keep our population more ethical than the rest of the USA. We can't fall for the lies of the distributors. We will have the same problems as a community with addiction and underage drinking. Most people who buy beer/wine want a tasty drink, and is hard to find here in Oklahoma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou48A View Post
    I may have missed it but I haven’t heard of any of the other big box stores wanting our liquor laws changed.
    Evidently they do well enough to make a reasonably profit in Oklahoma.

    The better question is why Costco can’t make an acceptable profit inn Oklahoma without liquor sales?

    As with any business the margins of profitability have a lot to do with the way the business is operated.
    If we change our liquor laws the other big stores will start selling it and probably eliminate any Costco advantage.
    Besides... I can’t believe that liquor, wine and beer sales would make up a very large percentage of their total sales.
    Yes. You missed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou48A View Post
    I may have missed it but I haven’t heard of any of the other big box stores wanting our liquor laws changed.
    Evidently they do well enough to make a reasonably profit in Oklahoma.

    The better question is why Costco can’t make an acceptable profit inn Oklahoma without liquor sales?

    As with any business the margins of profitability have a lot to do with the way the business is operated.
    If we change our liquor laws the other big stores will start selling it and probably eliminate any Costco advantage.
    Besides... I can’t believe that liquor, wine and beer sales would make up a very large percentage of their total sales.
    Why does that matter? Aren't you in favor of less restricted markets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ou48A View Post
    What makes Costco different?
    What can I buy at Costco that I can’t already buy somewhere in the OKC area?
    COSTCO in 2010 achieved $825 per sf of sales which is pretty impressive for their 160,000 sf stores. Sam's was $616. As an aside Trader Joe's is estimated to be about $1750 per sf which is more than twice what Whole Foods achieves.

    COSTCO philosophy is to buy a relatively few products at a low price, mark them up 14% or 15%, and sell a bunch of each. There is usually not a lot of variety nor is there much in the way of convenience, comfort or help to the shopper.

    The small business owner is the preferred customer type. I remember one example I read that COSTCO had made a special purchase of Polo shirts that were priced about 40% less than normal but still relatively expensive for a shirt.

    The house brand is Kirkland Signature.

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    The 'central planners' disgusied as conservatives on here are disgusting. Selling wine and eyeglasses in Oklahoma is legal and the state just decideds who gets to sell them. The State needs to get out of the way, it isn't their job to decide that, it is the consumers job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ou48A View Post
    Maybe I’m wrong? I have an open mind. What makes Costco different?
    What can I buy at Costco that I can’t already buy somewhere in the OKC area?

    Thanks
    Non-poverty hourly employees?

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    Yes, a huge difference between Costco and Sam's Club (we have both here in California) is that Costco is known for paying and treating it's employees very well. And it shows. They have fantastic customer service and the environment in the store is very different than a Sam's.

    I normally hate shopping big box warehouse stores but I flipping love Costco. They just seem to do things the right way and in turn, they have incredible customer loyalty which seems to be missing from Sam's and Wal-Mart.

    Costco is to Sam's as Target is to Wal-Mart.

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    The only credit card that COSTCO takes is American Express. That kind of explains the difference I think.

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